Lori Alexander - No fat chicks....REALLY

[GeoBQn]

Holy FUCK.

I went through high school without a boyfriend. I was convinced it was because I was ugly, and that no one would ever fall in love with me because of it. Then I went to college. Suddenly, I encountered guys for whom a short, Jewish woman who was into theatre and the Simpsons was their idea of a dream woman. They thought I was attractive the way I was, which was usually without make-up. I finally had a dating life, and all it took was going to a place with new people.

If someone had given me Lori's advice when I was a teenager, I probably would have locked myself in my room and refused to leave the house.

[August]

Lori is a fucking idiot. Does she realize that some women are overweight due to illnesses and medications?

More to the point, imagine pretending to be a person you're not in order to catch a man who likes that sort of person. Misery for everyone involved.

[Boogalou]

I'm a cynic so I guess I'm actually inclined to agree with her to a point. Evolutionary psychology tells us that we are attracted to attractive people. Duh! We believe that what is beautiful is good. We think that pretty people are nice people. What is pretty are symetrical faces. Men want a hip to waist ratio of .7- the waist needs to be 30 percent smaller than the hips. Even men blind from birth prefer this ratio! Super skinny women are not as attractive as a women with the right waist to hip ratio BUT because we are an overfed country, men's current preference is for a smaller woman than in the past. For instance Miss American contestants are smaller than ever. Marilyn Monroe was all the rage; now she would be considered on the large size even though she would have the right waist to hip ratio. Why? because women with this ratio tend to get pregnant more easily and be more healthy. Hair is associated with physical health in our minds so long hair makes a man think a woman is healthy and would be a good mate.

Statistically, men look for attractiveness and vitality first before they look for warmth and loyalty. Of course, what shows up as a statisfic facts may be minutely small in actuality.

Facts from Intimate Relationships, by Rowland S. Miller.

Evolutionary psychology is, by and large, a crock of shit. I am going to assume that when that author is talking about men (as if they were on giant monolithic group all with the exact same preferences throughout all of time and space) want a hip to waist ratio of .7 that it was based on a single study done with almost entirely white male middle-class undergraduate university students. This is quite clearly a group that does not represent all men at all times. The "women" used in the study were sketches of what we would associate with young, white, western, women. No bias there, I'm sure. I'd be interested to see the sources Miller is using in his assessment, especially that women with this magical ratio are more fertile.

Basically though, what we find attractive is so cultural and individual that I find it utterly ridiculous (and usually racist and sexist) to try to find some sort of biological basis for it.

And I agree with Singsing, if the options are be single forever or do everything Lori says and end up married to someone like Ken I would choose the former every time, without hesitation.

[singsingsing]

I do believe that there are certain physical characteristics that inherently make a person more sexually attractive in general, but it doesn't follow that not possessing those characteristics must make one unappealing. I'm pretty sure everyone's had the experience of finding a person who's supposed to be less conventionally attractive much more enticing than someone with movie star looks. A good friend of mine in high school thought my boyfriend was ugly and weird looking. I still have no idea why, because I thought he was very attractive and I was lucky to score him! There is such a thing as individual preference, and most people are looking for human beings, not measurements.

I'm pretty average looking and I've never had a lack of male attention. I've known plenty of women supposedly objectively uglier and heavier than me with more successful romantic lives. Look around at the people who are happily married. Most of them aren't physically stunning specimens.

[Rainytown]

If you really want to find a man and marry, then you need to get serious about it while you’re young. {from Sarah's Daughter}

Hey, Lori Alexander, better alert my husband. I didn't meet him until my 30's. We've been married twenty years now. I wasn't skinny when I met him, and I'm not skinny now. We are in love, which is more than I can say for you and your husband.

Considering your use of the word "bitch" to another woman who refuses to be a doormat or looked at as "inferior" and requires Daddy to make all her decisions for her: Pot, kettle, black. I hope all the misery you've visited on other women in the guise of "Christianity" and your twisted, inaccurate, misogynistic world view returns to you a thousand times over...

[guidedbybobafett]

Well Lori, most people aren't attracted to brainless automatons who passive-aggressively snipe at their husbands over the internet and condone child abuse, no matter how thin they may be.

[samismad]

On the other side of the story, I'm as skinny as heck, always have been (regardless of how much I eat). I'm relatively pretty.

I'm also single, and have been for most of my adult life. (dated 3 years, total).

Skinny does not equal married.

[littleblueheathen]

I'm not looking for a husband. Hell, I just got rid of one. I'm skinny and it didn't stop him treating me like dirt. And he has found out the hard way that the young, cookie-cutter-pretty ones ain't got time for his gnarly old ass. I defininitely got the better end of the deal, cause the only person I have to worry about pleasing is myself, while he is making a fool of himself trying to attract women who laugh at him behind his back after they've gotten their fill of the free drinks.

Lori Alexander is a monster.

[GeoBQn]

Cabinetman · 1 hour ago

Please understand that us evil men aren't telling you a pretty, feminine, young lady is worth more in in godly terms and in an eternal sense. All women are valuable (equally so as men in eternal sense).

He's got a point there. I'm probably worth at least two goats and a bolt of linen.

[lilwriter85]

Just curious - what does Ken look like?

He kind of looks like the Unabomber to me and he gives off a major creep vibe. I don't think Ken and Lori are an attractive couple. Both are average looking.

[samurai_sarah]

That's ridiculous!

The (new) Mrs. lawlife is 5 foot 7 and 250ish pounds. And she's really hot, to me! It's not just the physical gaze. I look at her, and I remember all the times she listened to me, held my hand when I had to get blood tests done because they scare me, cooked my favorite foods, went on road trips with me, etc. That attachment just makes me love her more, regardless of how conventionally attractive or not she is.

Yes, but you're a human being, and Lori is a body-snatching monster who poses as one! Human beings are capable of forming attachments that go beyond looks. And most of us realize sooner or later that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, and is far, far more than looks. Lori (Alexander is a monster) either lives a very shallow life, or...sod it, I'm about to overthink this, when she's just a monster.

[Talitha Cumi]

Wow! Congrats! Totally agree that WW is a reasonable way to lose weight and studies show that gimmicks like accountability and support DO help you lose weight. Anyway, I wanted to say that you are correct that losing weight doesn't change who you are, but sometimes it is too much change for some people. People will sabotage their weight loss if they do start to feel too different, if too many people are saying , "You look different". Say Yes to the Dress had an episode where the bride to be had lost over 100 lbs. She had a total meltdown because she still didn't recognize herself in the mirror. Her mind hadn't caught up to her body.

Can I just say, I wish I had that problem! :cracking-up:

Edited because I can't spell worth a riffle today!

Yeah... no you don't. It doesn't feel good. When your body doesn't reflect your self, even if it's "more desirable", it's really scary. I've sabotaged my weight loss more than once because of that feeling. If I lost weight really fast (I took 2 years to lose 60+ pounds), I'd have a meltdown too. Maybe that person in the mirror looks more socially acceptable, but it's not me.

[Soldevi]

She sounds like some douchebags I knew. They "kindly" let me know, you know, just because they cared of me sooooo much, that my date mate is going to be with me as long as date mate finds a better looking one. That is, one thinner than me. Oh, and because I was/am fat, I cannot have preferences for a spouse :D And if I do, I CANNOT opt for a lean, muscular one because I am fat and never ever a single lean, muscular type person would get interested of a fat girl. I should just be happy to have somebody.

I couldn't but laugh! We have been together 11 years, it seems to take quite a long time to find a thinner spouse...Oh, and my spouse is an athlete who used to compete in judo and nowadays in squash. I got my muscles 8)

I just don't understand how some people have nerve. Not only they insulted me but my now-spouse as well. Usch. I don't know what they thought.

[Arete]

Isn't it amazing that Lori thinks she has unique values and wisdom as a "Titus2 woman" when in fact she totally buys into mainstream "ungodly" culture's definition of female perfection?

Both she and Penthouse think women only have value as skinny sex dispensers. However, at least pornographers don't try and hide their misogyny behind passive-aggressive holiness.

[Talitha Cumi]

Mr. Cumi is short and skinny. He has narrow hips and shoulders, thin bones, and has gained about 1 inch in the waist in the last 20 years. I... have gained more. ;) My body type is exactly the opposite-- I'm heavily muscled and nicely fatted. My hips are broad, my bones are thick, and I will never, ever be described as thin. (I wish the body acceptance movement had been around when I was a teenager in the 80s. I would have enjoyed my beautiful body so much more than beating myself up for not being a shape that I could never be.)

Mr. Cumi and I fit together. We have been in love since college, and I enjoy every minute I have with him. I don't think Lori can say the same about Ken.

[lilah]

Dear Lori:

Proverbs 31:30

Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.

Psalm 119:37

Turn my eyes from looking at worthless things; and give me life in your ways.

1 Samuel 16:7

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.â€

Jeremiah 4:30

And you, O desolate one, what do you mean that you dress in scarlet, that you adorn yourself with ornaments of gold, that you enlarge your eyes with paint? In vain you beautify yourself. Your lovers despise you; they seek your life.

1 Timothy 4:8 ESV

For while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come.

Ecclesiastes 2:11

Then I considered all that my hands had done and the toil I had expended in doing it, and behold, all was vanity and a striving after wind, and there was nothing to be gained under the sun.

Hebrews 13:5

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.â€

Romans 12:2

Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Galatians 5:16-26

But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions

Matthew 7:1-5

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Colossians 3:5

Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

Ecclesiastes 6:12

For who knows what is good for man while he lives the few days of his vain life, which he passes like a shadow? For who can tell man what will be after him under the sun?

Ecclesiastes 1:2

Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher, vanity of vanities! All is vanity.

2 Peter 2:18

For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error.

John 8:32

And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.â€

Romans 12:1

I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.

Romans 2:1-4

Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?.

Job 4:8

As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same

1 Timothy 6:20

O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,â€

Ecclesiastes 11:9-10

Rejoice, O young man, in your youth, and let your heart cheer you in the days of your youth. Walk in the ways of your heart and the sight of your eyes. But know that for all these things God will bring you into judgment. Remove vexation from your heart, and put away pain from your body, for youth and the dawn of life are vanity.

Ephesians 4:17

Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds.

1 Timothy 1:6

Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion,

2 Kings 9:30

When Jehu came to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it. And she painted her eyes and adorned her head and looked out of the window.

Go post those in her comment section and see what happens!!!!

[NotALoserLikeYou]

Go post those in her comment section and see what happens!!!!

I did and I got "still doesn't excuse the sin of gluttony"

Because all fat girls (like myself) are sinning by being fat.

[NoneandDoneinCali]

Is it so wrong to think partners should try to look nice for each other (within reason)? That a husband might want to wear decent clothes and be kind to please his wife, and vice versa? If your husband really likes it when you curl your hair, jeebus. Do it once in a while. If your wife thinks you look good in blue, why not put on that cerulean shirt before dinner at her parents' house (even though you think you look like a dork). It isn't a one-sided endeavor, with a female bobble-head spouse and a male tyrant. The most successful relationships involve partners trying to please each other (this includes in bed). Oh, and if you don't try to lose weight and get healthy for yourself, it isn't going to last. Once again, Lori and her sock puppet account Cabinetman show that they have no fucking clue as to what constitutes a healthy relationship.

Lori Alexander is a monster.

[NellieBell]

What an ignorant bitch. Just when I think she can't go lower, she digs herself a deeper trench. The damage - mostly irrevocable - from asshats like herself has resulted in how many eating disorders, life long depression and early death either from said eating disorders or suicides? She and her headship should be classified as a hate group. That sort of psychological bullying is one of the most difficult to overcome. Fuck her. Skinny people lead miserable lives too, with That Thing being a prime example. Remember that Ken's Doormat Whori.

[ShesCrafty]

Evolutionary psychology is, by and large, a crock of shit.

QFT. Evolutionary psychology is more or less a pseudoscience that allows assholes to try and justify their assholishness with fancy words.

Oh, and Lori Alexander is a monster.

[CrazyCatLady]

if you plan to be married to anyone for ANY period of time, their body is going to change. stretch marks, losing hair, growing hair in weird places, injuries, illnesses, surgeries, etc. all change the way the body looks, works, and feels.

i don't recall our wedding vows saying "as long as your wife remains thin" or "as long as he has a full head of hair." Real love endures ALL things!

[lilwriter85]

if you plan to be married to anyone for ANY period of time, their body is going to change. stretch marks, losing hair, growing hair in weird places, injuries, illnesses, surgeries, etc. all change the way the body looks, works, and feels.

i don't recall our wedding vows saying "as long as your wife remains thin" or "as long as he has a full head of hair." Real love endures ALL things!

I really like this post. Lori has dealt with a lot of health problems throughout her life which she has talked about on the blog. Now her health problems haven't effected her weight as far as I can tell. I can picture Ken being a douche to Lori if she was overweight due to medications or illnesses.

[BalconySmoker]

Why is Lori even talking about this? She may be thin, but she is not pretty.

That's not normally an observation I would voice out loud, but if she's going to snark on another person's appearance then I feel no shame in snarking on hers. She has an ugly haircut, leathery skin and crazy eyes. Who the hell does she think she is, making comment on somebody else's appearance WHEN SHE ISN'T EVEN CUTE? And what's this crap about women having long hair, when hers barely touches her shoulders?

It's the same thing with Sunshine Mary, she talks shit about fat people WHEN SHE IS OVERWEIGHT HERSELF! Sorry honey, you can do all the Myspace-angle photos with "soft light" that you want. You aren't thin, we all know it.

I really think some of these MRA/redpill women are actually delusional. For all the shit they talk about women being fit, pretty and feminine, I haven't seen a single one of them on the internet who actually met all those categories.

If a woman as pretty as Mila Kunis or Emma Watson takes the "red pill", I'll gladly eat my hat. But if the best quality of women those movements have to offer is Lori the Monster and Shitstain Mary, then I'll pass.

[Dysfundamental]

Beauty is only skin deep, but Lori's ugliness permeates her every thought, word, and deed.

[Koala]

Lori (from this post's comments):

I needed to be "spanked."

:roll: same shit, different day