On the road again..... (Maxwells)

[Loveday]

"Oh, Teri, when you put Pepsi and animal crackers, instead of green smoothies, into these adult children's mouths, you may indeed feed their vile bodies, but you little think how you starve their immortal souls!" -Mr. Stevelhurst

I like this nickname as much as I like Stevehova! :lol:

[TMS]

Oh yeah. Steve is a Boehner-level crier. Do you guys remember when he and Teri had another family over to the house years ago, and while they were singing hymns after dinner Steve accidentally glanced at the mother of the other family right when she happened to glance at him, and he almost cried because he was so upset that she might have thought he was sneaking a peek at her boobs? He told his readers that that her husband would answer for this sinful affront on judgement day. It was all that guy's fault that Steve got upset because he let his wife go out in a shirt that showed her shape and God was going to punish him for it. It definitely wasn't Steve's fault for making a big deal out of nothing or for not keeping his eyes to himself.

I was just thinking of this!!! Thing is, I think Steve WAS sneaking a peek at her boobies and got caught. He wept and wrote about it in an effort to get himself off the hook. Does anyone remember where he wrote this? Was it in a book or a Dads Corner?

[sparkles]

It was in a Dad's Corner. I posted some excerpts and a link above.

The Maxwells were also my gateway fundies, but there are no soft spots and I don't give them a pass on anything substantive because of it. I found them via the Duggar thread on TWOP and got sucked in. I just couldn't believe what I was reading. One of my very first impressions was that there had to have been some cataclysmic event in Steve's life that caused him to circle the wagons ever closer. That kind of reaction just isn't part of a normal progression. I don't know if it's fear, guilt, paranoia, megalomania or some combination of the above, but he created the Kingdom of Steve, population 10, and closed the borders to all outsiders. Just. Not. Normal. The whole godly because Jesus thing is smokescreen.

I absolutely think he's ruined his children's lives, especially the Reversals. Even if they wanted to get out, they probably know beyond a certainty that it would mean the end of all contact with their siblings and their mother. I have no doubt whatsoever that Steve would insist on it and has made it abundantly clear that he'd banish as he's done with others. I would imagine that having the threat of being cut off from everything and everyone you've ever known hanging over your head is a far more effective prison than bars could ever be. I really, really hate this man.

[Marian the Librarian]

It was in a Dad's Corner. I posted some excerpts and a link above.

The Maxwells were also my gateway fundies, but there are no soft spots and I don't give them a pass on anything substantive because of it. I found them via the Duggar thread on TWOP and got sucked in. I just couldn't believe what I was reading. One of my very first impressions was that there had to have been some cataclysmic event in Steve's life that caused him to circle the wagons ever closer. That kind of reaction just isn't part of a normal progression. I don't know if it's fear, guilt, paranoia, megalomania or some combination of the above, but he created the Kingdom of Steve, population 10, and closed the borders to all outsiders. Just. Not. Normal. The whole godly because Jesus thing is smokescreen.

I absolutely think he's ruined his children's lives, especially the Reversals. Even if they wanted to get out, they probably know beyond a certainty that it would mean the end of all contact with their siblings and their mother. I have no doubt whatsoever that Steve would insist on it and has made it abundantly clear that he'd banish as he's done with others. I would imagine that having the threat of being cut off from everything and everyone you've ever known hanging over your head is a far more effective prison than bars could ever be. I really, really hate this man.

[Palimpsest]

I may have reason for optimism w/r/t the Maxwell reversal children. Went back to my write-up of the session I attended and was reminded that the most striking parts of the evening were the two mistakes the Maxwells made and how they reacted to them. Just for review, the second flub was when Teri flubbed her lines and exhorted listeners to "be lovers of pleasure." She realized her mistake immediatley and fell silent and kind of cowered before Steve, who took several moments longer to get what was going on. Eventualy he gave her some kind of signal and they continued on.

The first was when Steve, in mid-pitch and alone downstage, turned upstage to pick up his Bible and it wasn't there. He froze, then showed obvious incomprehension and frustration. Memory's hazy but almost sure he called for Sarah, who arrived in a doorway behind the audience, looked shocked and turned to go search. As Steve hobbled along in his lines, suddenly one of the boys - either John or Joseph, since he wasn't wearing glasses - strode in from a hallway, grinning widely at the audience, holding a Bible rather aloft triumphantly. He handed it to Steve, who visibly relaxed and picked up on his spiel again. John or Joseph strode off the stage, still grinning toward the crowd, as a few folks applauded.

It only occurred to me today: Did oen of them misplace the Bible intentionally, knowing it would throw dear old death-dependent dad off his game and cause him elevated heart rate? Is there by any slim chance some humor or even - my heartbeat increases at the following - some rebellion in the ranks?????

I can only hope.

Me too! Maxwellian passive resistance from the reversals. Yay! My heart is going pitter patter at the thought. :lol:

It also goes to what I was saying -- that a question from the floor, even a polite one, would throw Teri for a loop. There is a downside to being so rehearsed and regimented.

ETA. Actually, there is a thought for future infiltrators . . . ask a polite question. You might be escorted out.

For us, confrontation is not our style and we wanted to remain as unobtrusive as possible. But I wouldn't get all judgey about anyone wanting to try different tactics. I thought Treemom confronting Steve was fine. I loved Jinger Freeh. Amyand4 was truly courageous to go by herself. I haven't found Sprockett's write-up yet to comment on what she did.

[TMS]

It was in a Dad's Corner. I posted some excerpts and a link above.

Oh, thanks! I should have read through the rest of the thread before posting.

[Triplet3]

I haven't found Sprockett's write-up yet to comment on what she did.

I linked to it earlier in the thread. It's a page or two back.

[nokidsmom]

Weird that a family that makes their living going around and presenting their conferences would be so thrown off even by a polite question.

I just checked their schedule to see if they are coming around to my area again. So far, nothing but I will keep checking. I wouldn't go way out of my way but if they landed in the big fundy church down the street, I might just wander in.

[Palimpsest]

I linked to it earlier in the thread. It's a page or two back.

Thanks! I missed it :::running off to read :::

[Peppercorn]

…It blesses my heart to have my wife and oldest daughter bring me new clothing for my opinion. I have not mandated that they must; it is that they desire that their clothing be pleasing both to me and the Lord Jesus.

But don't forget! Please the lord Stevus first!

Someone upthread mentioned the Maxwells donating their time and skills to Habitat. I've always wondered why they don't. But after reading about how Samaritan "insurance" works, obviously Steve couldn't abide the thought of an undeserving person benefitting. God forbid they help provide a house to a single mom. Or a fat person.

Lots of good info, stories and links here. Thanks to all for sharing them, as I'm barely a C- Maxhell scholar.

Jinger Freeh.

[nokidsmom]

Someone upthread mentioned the Maxwells donating their time and skills to Habitat. I've always wondered why they don't. But after reading about how Samaritan "insurance" works, obviously Steve couldn't abide the thought of an undeserving person benefitting. God forbid they help provide a house to a single mom. Or a fat person.

I worked on a Habitat home a few years ago and it was indeed for a single mother and her child. While the Maxwells would have all the skills needed to help on a Habitat project, the fact that it could for, well, a sinner, would make Stevie's mind implode. He would also worry about going to hell for doing it.

[asinglevoice]

Sarah misspelled her own name in the most recent post. And the SOTDRT strikes again...

[Marian the Librarian]

Sarah misspelled her own name in the most recent post. And the SOTDRT strikes again...

Anyone want to lay odds on how quickly this gets fixed, after Stevehovah reads about it here??

Hi Steve!! :borg:

[MamaJunebug]

Maybe she's going toward "Sarai," which IIRC meant "the Lord has dealt bitterly with me" while Sarai/Sarah was barren in the Old Testament. Possibly another sign of just a teentsy bit of commentary (read: rebellion) happening?

Noted: 18:05 hours CDT and no change...!

[WonderingInWA]

Maybe she's going toward "Sarai," which IIRC meant "the Lord has dealt bitterly with me" while Sarai/Sarah was barren in the Old Testament. Possibly another sign of just a teentsy bit of commentary (read: rebellion) happening?

Noted: 18:05 hours CDT and no change...!

Shhhh! They're probably right in the middle of Family Bible Time!

[treemom]

One of the few things that I am actually glad I said to him was that he had ruined his kids.

[Justme]

Lots of new pictures. Mr & MrsP, do you see yourselves?

[johnhugh]

Sarah misspelled her own name in the most recent post. And the SOTDRT strikes again...

Not fixed yet, though it seems that Stevie has read some of this thread as part of the post is to highlight the censored Q&A session - though the questions are credited to God.

Poor Sarah writed:

On our drive, our hosts told us that we would be passing a trebuchet. A what? A trebuchet is a type of catapult used to throw (in this case) pumpkins a long distance. Just look at the pictures closely. The man who owns the trebuchet is a world champion. You never know what you might see when traveling

- hmmm Stevie, this is sport and the man should have given up tossing pumpkins in favour of Bible Time™. :naughty:

The reversals travel 1000's of miles around North America each year, living in the UK, probably more than I have in my lifetime, surely what they observe out of Uriah's windows must stir up some desire to get out there and explore?

I bet the friends 'hosts' are relaxing and rubbing their hands with glee, that it might have been a few days of MaxHell, but they had the outside of their house made over for the price of a few bean burritos, green breakfast smoothies and Bible Time™ twice daily... "Ok they've gone, you can bring the 52" BEAST Plasma back out from under the stairs....."

[OnceModestTwiceShy]

Maybe Stevus has decreed that a silent consonant is an idol.

[Palimpsest]

Lots of new pictures. Mr & MrsP, do you see yourselves?

9th picture down. The long shot of Teri's session. Left hand pews, second from the back. That is my long greying dark blond hair. I'm surprised to see it and to be able to identify myself so easily. Quite a few people arrived after us.

I usually wear my long hair up these days. Leaving it long and loose, and wearing the frumpiest of all my many frumpy dresses was part of my cover. :twisted: And in defense of long locks on older women - my hair frizzes and is uncontrollable in short cuts! Long and up is easier.

Mr P is delighted that he escaped a photo.

I saw Anna (?) break out a snazzy looking camera at the end of the women's session. I don't think anyone else was taking pictures at registration.

ETA. The head covering lady from Vermont is just in front of me to the right. She was the only head coverer there, I think.

[MamaJunebug]

And in defense of long locks on older women - my hair frizzes and is uncontrollable in short cuts! Long and up is easier.

Sister, normally I'm one who encourages short locks on older women, but after you and the Mister's star turn recently, you can wear your hair any dang way you like! :worship:

[lilith]

Is Anna's hair naturally curly? I can't imagine Steve approving of the time and attention it would take to curl it and the very vanity of the act, but I'm sure she used to have straight hair.

She does look very put together lately, much more so than usual, the blooming youthful beauty of Anna and Mary makes Poor Sarah look even more tired and faded.

That's no bad thing - I'm Sarah's age myself, and I don't have the fresh prettiness I had at twenty anymore. But I'm not standing next to my pretty younger sisters and competing with them for the attentions of potential suitors, suitors who can only judge on physical attractiveness and godly demeanour because they aren't allowed to speak to the women and get to know them and discover deeper areas where Sarah may well outshine her sisters.

[already hungover]

Maybe Stevus has decreed that a silent consonant is an idol.

Burritos without meat taste the same, Sarah without an h sounds the same. Thus spake Stevehovah. Selah.

[WonderingInWA]

Is Anna's hair naturally curly? I can't imagine Steve approving of the time and attention it would take to curl it and the very vanity of the act, but I'm sure she used to have straight hair.

She does look very put together lately, much more so than usual, the blooming youthful beauty of Anna and Mary makes Poor Sarah look even more tired and faded.

That's no bad thing - I'm Sarah's age myself, and I don't have the fresh prettiness I had at twenty anymore. But I'm not standing next to my pretty younger sisters and competing with them for the attentions of potential suitors, suitors who can only judge on physical attractiveness and godly demeanour because they aren't allowed to speak to the women and get to know them and discover deeper areas where Sarah may well outshine her sisters.

Steve has mentioned a couple of times in blog comment responses that indicate Anna is the family stylist. I can't remember when it was, but he mentioned in response to someone who asked about her hair that she wanted to try something new. Her hair has been cut and curled at different times and perhaps she has had some influence on them getting rid of the frumpers.

[lilith]

Steve has mentioned a couple of times in blog comment responses that indicate Anna is the family stylist. I can't remember when it was, but he mentioned in response to someone who asked about her hair that she wanted to try something new. Her hair has been cut and curled at different times and perhaps she has had some influence on them getting rid of the frumpers.

I thought it was Mary that was the styler