David and Priscilla updates

[chaotic life]

Stone Mountain Pecan Company in Georgia (one I know off the top of my head to check quickly) is still selling unshelled pecans for just under $4/lb. That's quite a bit more than the price David quotes but more of the direct farmer to consumer pricing that he could find at a roadside stand. So how many pounds of pecans can that huge bag of his hold? 20lb? 30lb? How much crop DID he steal and brag about???

[CynicMom]

It's possible that the officers quoted were private security hired by the farmer. That would explain the absence of traditional police behavior.

[Witsec7]

amil zola December 9, 2012

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Fancy that the Pecan Gate post has been taken down. Not to worry the internets are forever David. I think your next post should be about your own need to lie and then blog the lie.

I'm tired of fundies not being called on their shit. It will never get posted, but he'll need to read it before he deletes it.

[Arete]

OK, made a run for toilet paper and milk, and checked the local supermarket nut prices. Shelled pecans, not organic, are currently going for $9.99/ lb retail over here.

[Buzzard]

Re the truck photo: Sagebrush and tiled Spanish roofs in TN? My how unique. 8-)

Not that I'm an expert arborist (or can tell one tree from another) but the trees in the background of them holding their citation and stolen loot dont look like NW florida. They look like trees found further north. There also should be two citations, one for each of them.

[Buzzard]

OK, thinking way too much about this I'm wondering if they were in Peach county, Georgia.

http://www.peachcounty.net/

Peach county is one of the few jurisdictions in Georgia that maintains a sheriff instead of a police department, its near 75 (the highway they'd take to florida), and is highly agricultural. If it really was Georgia I further call BULLSHIT because thats my state and I'm quite familiar with the Georgia State Patrol (troopers) and their procedures.

http://www.peachcounty.net/sheriff_divisions.cfm

Peach County has only 20 deputies to cover the entire county

Units within the patrol division include uniform patrol, K9, traffic enforcement, highway interdiction, school resource officers, warrant service and court services.

Assuming 24 hours/day and 7 days a week, less the school and court division, they likely have 4 deputies patrolling at any given time. So yeah, I call bullshit that multiple officers responded to the great nut heist. I'm sure there was a cat stuck in a tree somewhere that was much more important.

[Coconut Flan]

We had a very strange experience with the local police in Georgia 30 years ago. While it was an example of "the good ole boys," it was nothing resembling David's story. It would be quite interesting to read a report from the other people involved.

[donks]

Re the truck photo: Sagebrush and tiled Spanish roofs in TN? My how unique. 8-)

Not to mention that large palm tree in front of the house and that sandy road.

[marmalade]

OK, made a run for toilet paper and milk, and checked the local supermarket nut prices. Shelled pecans, not organic, are currently going for $9.99/ lb retail over here.

I'll be a local high-end grocery tomorrow. I know the price will be higher, but I'll stop by to see what they're fetching in the bulk bin these days.

[Witsec7]

I'll be a local high-end grocery tomorrow. I know the price will be higher, but I'll stop by to see what they're fetching in the bulk bin these days.

I'm sure they run between $14 and $17 shelled at my co-op.

[0KidsAndHappy]

Wait ... Did he really say he took that photo of the truck? It's a stock photo from Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1997_ ... 50_XLT.jpg

[Buzzard]

Wait ... Did he really say he took that photo of the truck? It's a stock photo from Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1997_ ... 50_XLT.jpg

He didnt "say" that he took the picture. He put it in the story at about the point the truck was introduced and commented "pickup truck" on the bottom. It seems implied, atleast to me, that it was "the" truck. Since we know it isnt "the" truck, I'm truly perplexed as to why he would take the time to find clip art to add to his tale of woe and caution. The whole thing is fraktastically fucked.

[Patsy]

I'm tired of fundies not being called on their shit. It will never get posted, but he'll need to read it before he deletes it.

*slow nod*

[Guest Anonymous]

Could someone have hacked his blog and rewritten the entire story to go with the photos, as a joke? Maybe he is just holding paperwork from the Bible Bee, and the Bible Bee people gave him a bag of pecans to thank him? That makes more sense than taking it literally.

They would have also had to hack the previous post in which he tells that the story is forthcoming, and also the comments about it that he approved on both posts.

[luckystone]

OK, made a run for toilet paper and milk, and checked the local supermarket nut prices. Shelled pecans, not organic, are currently going for $9.99/ lb retail over here.

Oh that's interesting...I was going to suggest $100 might be enough, but thought I was exaggerating, and didn't know the US prices. Turns out pecans are more expensive than I thought. That bag could hold a lot of pounds, right?

[theCR]

It looks like it has been removed from the blog...

Just went to check out the pictures and its gone.

Maybe he knows we are onto him =]

[Guest Anonymous]

It looks like it has been removed from the blog...

Just went to check out the pictures and its gone.

Maybe he knows we are onto him =]

It was taken down yesterday, but if you flick back a page or two in this thread, there is a copy of the full text and photo, and a link to the google cache.

[Deleted03]

OK, made a run for toilet paper and milk, and checked the local supermarket nut prices. Shelled pecans, not organic, are currently going for $9.99/ lb retail over here.

TJ has them for 7$ I think higher than last year.

[fundiemental]

I just did a Google search for "david waller pecans". The first result was the blog entry. I clicked it, expecting to get a "not found", but the whole thing is there, pictures, comments and all.

ETA: From there, I clicked on the website banner, then blog. No pecan story there. Just the bible bee entry as the most recent.

THIS IS SO DARN NUTTY

[JenniferJuniper]

I agree with those who have pointed out all the ridiculous aspects of David's story, but even assuming the gist of it is basically true, why post about something like this?

It’s one thing to tell your family and friends about your little run in with the law (along with the fact that you pulled your emotionally fragile and possibly intellectually impaired pregnant wife into the situation), but why feel compelled to share it with the world?

Not sure what the pathology might be, but could it be that David simply gets off on feelings of humiliation and shame? He looks quite cheerful in his Bible Bee mug shot photo.

[JenniferJuniper]

I just did a Google search for "david waller pecans". The first result was the blog entry. I clicked it, expecting to get a "not found", but the whole thing is there, pictures, comments and all.

ETA: From there, I clicked on the website banner, then blog. No pecan story there. Just the bible bee entry as the most recent.

THIS IS SO DARN NUTTY

I'm having no trouble accessing it here:

davidlovespriscilla.com/2012/12/04/the-pecan-story/

[ceg045]

I wonder if they removed the post from the blog, but didn't completely delete/unpublish it from the dashboard? I do some of our company's website maintenance as part of my job, and you have to unpublish a page to completely delete it; otherwise it's still accessible by typing in the full URL.

[Buzzard]

The new post has edits. Really odd.

davidlovespriscilla.com/2012/12/04/the-pecan-story/

It all started so innocently. We were on our way down after completing a wonderful time at the National Bible Bee. God seemed to ordain every step we took. We were dropping off a co-worker and would pick them up again on the way back up North. It was on our way and not an inconvenience at all and to make matters even better, they offered to feed us lunch. No lunch meat for lunch today! We were having a Southern meal of homemade fried chicken, so tender and juicy. Yum! This home was surrounded by beautiful fields of peach orchards, pecan groves, and peanut farms. Totally foreign to me, they explained that they had just gathered the pecan harvest by shaking each tree and then raking them into wind rows to be picked up by the next machine.

Time for a walk

As our lunch and fellowship came to a close, I asked if there was a good place to go for a little walk before completing the remaining six hour’s drive to Florida. The family kindly offered, “We sometimes walk down the highway, but there are no shoulders. You can certainly walk around our yard… or we know our neighbor and he lets us walk in his pecan grove.â€

As we went outside the prospect of a walk did not look so inviting, so we headed to the van, bid our hosts goodbye and took off. Just as we pulled out the clouds parted and the sun beamed down. I quickly looked at Priscilla and after rounding the bend decided to pull into the other side of the neatly planted, mature, pecan-tree grove. After walking along the road I felt it was important for us to head back. As we headed back, I saw a few pecans pressed into the mud. I dug one out, brushed it off and cracked it open, only to find the most delicious, lush, buttery pecan I think I had ever tasted. I handed some to Priscilla. I had a little caution about it before doing it, but I quickly brushed it aside. We thought, “Maybe we should dig out just a few and bring them down for Thanksgiving. That would be a nice treat. After all, they already harvested this field so we are just gleaning the field.†I ran to the van and found our paper Bible Bee gift bag.

The law catches up

After only a few minutes the bag was filling nicely. I glanced up and waved as a blue car drove by. I am not sure it registered in my mind that it was a state trooper until I saw his car return only a few minutes later. This time he rolled down his window and called out, “Hey, what are you all doing out there? Who gave you permission to be out there?â€

Motioning toward the red house in the distance I explained, “We are traveling through the area and just had lunch with that family over there and they said we could go for a walk out here.†The trooper asked, “Do they own the property?†I replied, “No, but they said they know the owner and he lets them walk in this grove.†The trooper replied, “Well, I just talked to the owner and he told me he does not want anyone out here. You wait right here. He wants to have a word with you.†Oh, boy, was I in for a surprise.

The farmer arrives

A pickup pulled in a short while later and out jumped a plain-clothed officer. He walked over to talk with the other officer while we waited another fifteen minutes. Finally the owner of the property pulled up. As he got out of his pickup he grabbed a slender fiberglass cattle-prod. As he walked briskly towards us he slashed at the grass back and forth as he walked. He was ANGRY!

For what seemed like an eternity he yelled questions at us such as, “What did you think you were doing? Who gave you permission to be out here? Its one thing for me to be chasing people off during the night, but what gave you the nerve to be out stealing in broad daylight!!! I bet you got a Bible in your car back there too! Don’t you realize that is like stealing money out of my wallet?†deleted: For what seemed like an eternity he yelled questions at us such as, “What did you think you were doing? Who gave you permission to be out here? It’s one thing for those black folks to be out here at night, but you decent white folk are out here stealing in broad daylight!!! I bet you got a Bible in your car back there too! Don’t you realize that is like stealing money out of my wallet?â€

Situation gets worse

Obviously this was not the first time people had wronged him. Of course we felt horrible and wanted to do anything needed to make this right. After the landowner had carried on for a time, he turned back and called out to the officers, “You got your deputy on his way out here yet? You better, because they are going to hear gunshots over their heads in a minute.†After a stern warning from the officers, a few more police came on the scene. Each one seemed to do their best to calm down the land-owner by giving us a stern talking to. Finally, the deputy for the area arrived. God so ordained him to be a large jolly officer large jolly African-American officer I wish you could have seen the face of the land-owner when he saw him. This officer was one of the nicest guys.. Upon getting my license he went over to get my wife’s. When we had heared the threat of gun fire, I asked if she would be permitted to sit in the van. When he went up to get her information his first question was, “How many months are you along?†She burst into tears and held up five fingers. He compassionately said, “You don’t have to get all emotional about it. I think we are just going to write you up a warning not to go on his property again.†She responded, “Yes sir.â€

A sticky situation

One of the other tall officers ended up doing the negotiations. He had to give me “a talking to†loud enough that the land owner could hear to try and appease his wrath. Finally, he asked me what I had to say. I explained that I just wanted to take my wife on a little walk, but that I was totally wrong to take pecans. I told him, “I am a born again Christian and no Christian should ever steal. God and I have a good relationship and I had a caution in my spirit not to do that and I did not listen to God’s prompting. I am really sorry, and I would like to offer this guy restitution. I have no clue what the bag of pecans is worth, but I have $100 in cash right here to give him.â€

With that the officer told me to come over to talk. The owner was still upset, but had calmed down some. The officer asked him, “Did you take any time to even listen to these kids and what they had to say?†He stared at the ground and shook his head. “Tell him what you told me†the officer stated.

I looked the man square in the eye and said, “Sir, I am a born again Christian and I do have a Bible in that car and this is no way for a Christian to act. I have been a horrible witness of what a Christian ought to be because no Christian ought to steal. I just came from helping out at the National Bible Bee. I have taught character in the public schools of Oklahoma for years. I am headed down right now to do some ministry in a prison. God and I have a great relationship and when He tells me not to do something, I know better, but I disobeyed His prompting. I want you to know that I am very sorry. Here is a token of my apology.†I stuffed the hundred dollars in the top of the bag and began to back away.

The officer repeated it, “Did you hear that? He violated his inner peace and did what was wrong and now is offering you a hundred bucks as restitution.†He straightened up and looked at me and then at the police officer. He said, “No, you keep your money… I don’t want your money.†After a pause he looked back up and said, “No, all I want is one good picture of you and your Mrs. holding that bag of pecans.†I said, “Yes, sir. Anything you want. I have done you wrong.†After he took a picture on his little flip phone I said, “Sir, could you take a picture of us as well? I want to teach my little boy this lesson too.†We shook hands, and the officer gave us our paper-work and we were off. Wow, what a lesson! Someone once said, “There is no sin known to man that the human mind cannot rationalize away.†I had so many ways to rationalize this at the moment, such as: “We were gleaning the waste from the harvest, our friends know the owners, the pecans are going to just go to waste sitting in the mud, in blue-berry fields of Florida, we have a friend who lets us glean hundreds of pounds of blue berries.†However, it is never worth it to rationalize wrong-doing.

As we drove down the road, I asked God, “Father, why did you allow that to happen?†The answer came just two days later when we went to the Prison and shared this story. It was the day before Thanksgiving and many of the ladies were really missing their families. This story really hit home because of some recent situations that the ladies had encountered. We encouraged them to always listen to the prompting of God’s Spirit.

THATS his "wait and see update in blue? Is he fucking kidding me?

[Deleted07]

I've been in law enforcement for more than a decade. There is NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL this actually happened. The dialog is absolutely ridiculous, the cattle prod wouldnt and couldnt have happened, and there's no way a cop/deputy/trooper whatever would behave like that.

But lets start at the beginning.

1 - he has a state trooper responding to the first call. Troopers are HIGHWAY PATROL. The do not respond to 911 calls and they most definitely do not respond to people stealing nuts. They pull your ass over for doing 100 in a 55.

Bullshit. No way in hell would any sworn officer who had just spoken to an angry anyone allow the situation to escalate. He would have either given the citation or told them to get the fuck out.

2 - The second "officer" on scene is a plain clothes officer. Lets assume, for the sake of argument, that the trooper happened to be completely out of his jurisdiction and was driving aimlessly on a rural dirt road when he happened across the wallermobile parked on the side of the road. Lets also assume that the trooper went to the closest house (which wasnt the one they had lunch at) and asked about the car, the owner got pissed etc and called the real police (which could be police or a deputy depending on where in florida they are), the first officer on scene would not be out of uniform, and certainly would not be in his personal vehicle.

Again, Bullshit. Parties would have been separated and NO WAY was anyone with a weapon or anything that could be perceived as a weapon going to be in anyone's hands at any point in time if real officers are involved, plain clothes or not.

3 - FINALLY we have an actual uniformed officer arrive on scene. He would have gotten out of his car, seen two blathering pitiful examples of ministers, taken their license and registration, and written a criminal trespass warning (likely the white paperwork), along with the formal citation.

Clearly this area is a Sheriff jurisdiction, which further proves that there is no way in hell a trooper responded to a call. If someone yells a threat to the two other officers on scene they dont stand around with their thumbs up their asses and let someone with a cattle prod in their hand threaten people. They either diffuse the situation (by putting someone in the back of a patrol car), tell one or all parties to leave, or conclude. If the trooper and the other "officer" had no jurisdiction to arrest (which is likely true) they still had the authority to issue a criminal trespass warning. Even if they didnt want to do that they would have escorted the owner back to his house while the other ensured that the pecan thieves didnt flee.

4 -

What is this, a fucking bank robbery? He already has 3 hypothetical cops on scene, now they called for backup? I have no idea whatever bumblefuck pecan grove he was at, but I highly doubt they sent more than one car because they probably only have 5 total.

Edit a paragraph out before posting david? You havent described anyone other that "large jolly African-American officer" so I'm not sure what "tall" is about. What negotiations? This isnt hard. Get the fuck off the land, dont come back, give what you stole back. 20 minutes tops.

5 -

Wait, hold on? A cop gives a flying fuck about your inner peace. They're also highly unlikely to get into your religious banter. Why? Because that can be considered some form of discrimination and its completely irrelevant. I dont give a shit about your inner peace and if you start talking about it in court I will stop you.

The red - huh? Who wants to teach a little boy? David has a son? The cop wanted a picture? Most jurisdictions have an SOP (standard operating procedure) which directly prohibits taking pictures on your cell phone. It keeps people from snapping pics at crime scenes and putting it on facebook.

Now, the pictures. David took A LOT of time with these. He captioned all of them.

Did you take this before or after you got busted?

Please tell me this is a stock pic and he didnt arrange the pecans!

I call bullshit on so many levels. A plain clothes officer let you take pictures of his truck? Was this before or after you were a blubbering little baby? After slipping your $100 bill into the bag you snapped pics? NO WAY.

The significance of the cost is what?

Why is he smiling? Whats up with the caption? Who cares if you got to keep them? Which car are they in front of?

My guess is that this was pulled down because its a blatant fabrication and deviated from the truth enough that it could get him in some trouble. Lying is a sin, david.

edited because I do know how to link screencaps!

THANK YOU! Buzzard this is why you're one of my favourite posters! Always the voice of reason and capable of saying everything I feel and see, just far more eloquently! :clap:

I, too, after having seeing how the law operates thought it was sheer ridiculousness that any real officer would allow a situation like this to escalate and allow a strange farmer with a cattle prod to swear and scream about shooting people, to go un-hindered! Most situations I've seen, the cop always separates the people, tells the main aggressor to calm down and that they will fix it, as you rightly said! The story was so bizarre on so many levels! YEESH!

[Deleted07]

The new post has edits. Really odd.

davidlovespriscilla.com/2012/12/04/the-pecan-story/

THATS his "wait and see update in blue? Is he fucking kidding me?

EDITS!!! zomg This whole pecan-gate thing is just so warped... David, Hunny... Get a life! :?