Trump 56: He Still Loves Rallies Almost As Much As He Adores Putin

[Anne Of Gray Gables]

52 minutes ago, quiversR4hunting said:

I think he can serve federal time. He would be in solitary and probably in a medium to high security so he has enough eyes on him and then secret service don't need to watch him. But he is a slippery eel so I'm doubtful he will ever see trial. 

I'm pretty Secret Service protection to a former president can't just be shut off. There's some discussion here. https://news.yahoo.com/secret-protection-donald-trump-slammer-010915622.html

I think he'll see trials, although probably not prison time. Hopefully he dies first. He's a cancer that needs to be cut out and burned. But it's fun to imagine him wasting away again in Seagoville with Joshley Duggar. 

[Howl]

The MAGA Republican machine is on a huge spin cycle. Then Eric went on TV and claimed he knows how things work with DOJ and that Biden had to have approved the warrant, inadvertently exposing the extent to which Trump compromised the DOJ. 

One of Trump's new lawyers claims she doesn't know how to get a copy of the search warrant, even though I think she was at Mar a Lago when the warrant was served or sometime soon after and Trump has raised around 250 million, ostensibly for lawyers. 

Trump or his legal team was provided an inventory of all items taken, but so far (of course) no one on the Trump side has released a copy of the warrant or the inventory. 

Many panties are in wads over the indignity of it all! High dudgeon!  Fund raising is happening at a breakneck pace! 

 

[onekidanddone]

15 minutes ago, Howl said:

The MAGA Republican machine is on a huge spin cycle. Then Eric went on TV and claimed he knows how things work with DOJ and that Biden had to have approved the warrant, inadvertently exposing the extent to which Trump compromised the DOJ. 

One of Trump's new lawyers claims she doesn't know how to get a copy of the search warrant, even though I think she was at Mar a Lago when the warrant was served or sometime soon after and Trump has raised around 250 million, ostensibly for lawyers. 

Trump or his legal team was provided an inventory of all items taken, but so far (of course) no one on the Trump side has released a copy of the warrant or the inventory. 

Many panties are in wads over the indignity of it all! High dudgeon!  Fund raising is happening at a breakneck pace! 

 

Hey those gold toilets aren’t go to pay for themselves. Help a brother out here. 

[Ozlsn]

2 hours ago, Howl said:

One of Trump's new lawyers claims she doesn't know how to get a copy of the search warrant, even though I think she was at Mar a Lago when the warrant was served or sometime soon after and Trump has raised around 250 million, ostensibly for lawyers. 

He really manages to employ the best people.

2 hours ago, Howl said:

The MAGA Republican machine is on a huge spin cycle. Then Eric went on TV and claimed he knows how things work with DOJ and that Biden had to have approved the warrant, inadvertently exposing the extent to which Trump compromised the DOJ. 

Interesting. No Biden didn't, no Eric doesn't, yes Trump did.

2 hours ago, Howl said:

Trump or his legal team was provided an inventory of all items taken, but so far (of course) no one on the Trump side has released a copy of the warrant or the inventory. 

OMG please release this! I was wondering if this got bumped up a couple of notches due to all the missing text messages from different branches of government.

[fraurosena]

In June, the FBI seized surveillance tapes from Mar-a-Lago, according to this (lengthy) interesting article:

F.B.I. Search of Trump’s Home Pushes Long Conflict Into Public View

Seizing the tapes could point to them wanting to know who visited Trump and with whom he might have ‘shared’ government documents.

The article also notes that among other things, Trump also took the Sharpie altered weather map with him, which really made me lol.

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Justice Department officials were worried that the former president had not fully complied with requests to return material taken from the White House that included possible classified information.

The search carried out on Monday by the F.B.I. at former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida home, a law enforcement action with explosive legal and political implications, was the culmination of a lengthy conflict between a president proud of his disdain for rules and officials charged with protecting the nation’s records and secrets.

On one side were officials from the National Archives, which is responsible for making sure all presidential records are preserved according to the law, and the Justice Department, which some people familiar with the inquiry said had grown concerned about the whereabouts of possible classified information and whether Mr. Trump’s team was being fully forthcoming.

On the other was Mr. Trump, who, in apparent contravention of the Presidential Records Act, had taken a trove of material with him to his home at Mar-a-Lago when he left the White House that included sensitive documents — and then, in the Justice Department’s view, had failed to fully comply with requests that he return the disputed material.

After the investigation bubbled along largely out of public view for months, word that agents had arrived early Monday morning at the gates of Mar-a-Lago with a search warrant raised new questions about Mr. Trump’s vulnerability to prosecution and fueled further partisan division.

Mr. Trump’s aides and allies intensified their criticism of the search on Tuesday, calling it unnecessary and asserting, without citing any evidence, that it was a brazen use of prosecutorial power for political purposes. On his social media site on Tuesday, Mr. Trump cast the search as part of “a coordinated attack” that also includes local and state prosecutors, alluding to investigations into him being carried out in Georgia and New York.

Christina Bobb, a lawyer and aide to Mr. Trump who said she received a copy of the search warrant, told one interviewer that the agents were looking for “presidential records or any possibly classified material.”

At the White House, President Biden’s press secretary said he had no advance word of the decision to carry out the search, and at the Justice Department, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland maintained public silence about the momentous step.

Despite Mr. Trump’s suggestions that an army of agents raided Mar-a-Lago and stormed through his home, the F.B.I. conducted the search on a day when Mr. Trump was out of town and the club was closed. The agents carried out the search in a relatively low-key manner, people with knowledge of the matter said; by some accounts they were not seen donning the conspicuous navy-blue jackets with the agency’s initials emblazoned on the back that are commonly worn when executing search warrants.

Another person familiar with the search said agents began going through a storage unit, where items like beach chairs and umbrellas are kept, in the basement. They progressed to his office, which was built for him on the second floor of the main house, where they cracked a hotel-style safe that was said by two people briefed on the search to contain nothing of consequence to the agents.

Then they moved to Mr. Trump’s residence, the person said.

Ultimately, they removed a number of boxes of documents, people familiar with the search said.

It is not clear what the agents were looking for or what they took. Nor is it clear whether the search was carried out simply to ensure that the documents and other material were properly turned over to the archives or it was a possible precursor to a prosecution of Mr. Trump for mishandling classified material or obstructing efforts to get it back.

Throughout his presidency, Mr. Trump was disdainful of record-preservation laws, and was known to tear up documents and in some cases to flush them down toilets. It is not clear whether he sought to hold onto material sought by the archives and the Justice Department to keep it away from public scrutiny or for some other reason.

A close look at the investigation, though, shows how it has been quietly picking up steam for much of this year, introducing a new element into the questions about Mr. Trump’s varied and intensifying legal problems and his political viability even as he hints at another run for the presidency.

For many months before he left office, Mr. Trump would tell aides to bring documents up to the residence for him while he was in the Oval Office, and they complied, but there was no process in place, meaning that officials whose job it was to keep track of paperwork did not always know exactly what had gone up there, according to people familiar with the events.

By the end of his presidency, and as Mr. Trump was fighting to overturn his election loss, some of his aides were concerned with preserving the work of the office itself. His habit of transporting material around in cardboard boxes, with either a personal aide or a valet carrying them, was well known, but the contents were not always clear.

Discussions were held within the White House by top staff members about how to get Mr. Trump to surrender his boxes, people familiar with the events said; it is unclear whether Mr. Trump was ever asked directly or officials simply did not take the issue to him.

When he left the White House, Mr. Trump took the boxes with him to Mar-a-Lago, packed with paperwork including letters from the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and the former president’s “Sharpie-gate” map of the path of a hurricane, along with personal items like golf balls and a rain coat and various other things stuffed in.

The National Archives, whose mission is to preserve government documents, determined last year that many important presidential documents that archivists knew existed were missing and believed to be in Mr. Trump’s possession.

That set off a lengthy back and forth between the National Archives and Mr. Trump’s lawyers about what documents he might have taken. Mr. Trump’s unwillingness to quickly hand over the documents frustrated archives officials, who had grown deeply skeptical throughout the Trump administration that he and his aides followed federal record keeping laws.

For the rest of 2021, Mr. Trump resisted requests to give back the material. In the meantime, Mr. Trump would wave things like the North Korean leader’s letters at people, as if they were collectors’ items he was showing off.

In January of this year, an official for the National Archives flew to Florida and retrieved 15 boxes of documents, gifts and other government property.

When archivists went through the boxes, they found several documents containing sensitive national security information, including some marked classified.

The archivists also discovered that Mr. Trump had not returned several documents that they believed the former president had in his possession. Around this time, the National Archives alerted the Justice Department that it was concerned about the handling of the classified documents, which are closely tracked by the government and are supposed to remain within secure channels.

By this spring, the Justice Department had taken a range of steps that showed it was conducting an investigation into what happened with the classified documents, as prosecutors issued a subpoena to the National Archives to obtain the boxes and convened a grand jury, whose term was later extended past its initial expiration date.

Investigators began contacting possible witnesses, including Molly Michael, an assistant to Mr. Trump, signaling that they were seeking information from people close to the former president. A lawyer for Ms. Michael declined to comment.

During the spring, a group of federal investigators, including the Justice Department’s top counterintelligence official, Jay Bratt, traveled to Mar-a-Lago. Mr. Trump met with them briefly, and lawyers for Mr. Trump were present.

In an interview on Tuesday with the right-wing channel Real America’s Voice, Ms. Bobb said she and other Trump lawyers had been “extremely cooperative” with the F.B.I. during a previous visit when agents were given “free access” to the building.

After Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago, they subpoenaed the Trump Organization for a copy of Mar-a-Lago’s surveillance tapes, a person with knowledge of the matter said. The company complied, turning over the tapes to the government.

Mr. Trump’s lawyers also sifted through his records at Mar-a-Lago to determine whether he still was holding onto anything classified or sensitive. In the course of that process, Mr. Trump’s team made statements to the Justice Department about what Mr. Trump had returned.

But in recent weeks, officials came to question whether that information was entirely accurate — and whether Mr. Trump continued to store sensitive documents at Mar-a-Lago, one of the people said. It is unclear whether the department conveyed that concern to Mr. Trump’s team.

Mr. Trump and his aides have made clear that they were taken by surprise when the agents showed up at Mar-a-Lago with a search warrant on Monday.

A person with knowledge of the matter said the warrant was approved by a federal magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhart, a former federal prosecutor and defense lawyer. Magistrate judges are selected by district court judges, meaning that they are not political appointees. It is common for magistrates to review search warrant applications.

The warrant was obtained by prosecutors with the Justice Department’s national security division, which at the request of the National Archives has been leading the investigation into whether the materials were improperly removed and stored, according to two people with knowledge of the situation.

The F.B.I. left behind a detailed manifest of all the materials that were removed, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

In contrast to other statements in the media it was a federal magistrate judge, not a political appointee, who signed off on the warrant.

[…] the warrant was approved by a federal magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhart, a former federal prosecutor and defense lawyer. Magistrate judges are selected by district court judges, meaning that they are not political appointees.

[GreyhoundFan]

 

More whining from TFG. I have no doubt that the entire search was filmed.

[47of74]

Keith Olbermann is doing Countdown as a podcast now. Yesterday he compiled the various reich wing reactions over the Malware-a-tugjob raid. 

[GreyhoundFan]

Hmm, pleading the Fifth:

 

Full statement under spoiler:

Spoiler

 

Since he's said in the past that only the mob pleads the Fifth, I guess this is his admission that he's in the mob.

[AlmostSavedAtTacoBell]

Trump just announced he pled the 5th in the NY civil probe into his misrepresentation of property values for loan purposes.  Wow.  This is bigly.  The takeaways really are huge.  It means that he is admitting that answering the questions would tend to criminally implicate him and since if it ends up being filed it would be a civil case and in a civil case, a jury is allowed to draw inferences that pleading the 5th means the declarant has something to hide.  So he's pretty much admitting he committed crimes and if there is a filed case that goes to trial it can hurt him at trial.  I have absolute confidence that him sitting for this deposition was just icing on the cake and that the NY AG's office already had all they needed to file with or without his deposition.  Sure, it would have been nice to get his statements under oath but this is the second best way to go- he takes the 5th and they get to not only hammer him with it at trial but now, with speculation he was going to go for a 2024 run, all the Ds as well as the never-Trumpers and newly (and increasing by the day) waking up to reality former Trumpers can use his prior claims of not needing to plead the 5th unless you are guilty of something side by side with this statement.  Hey, maybe I'm mistaken but I don't remember Hillary ever pleading the 5th during her many hours testifying in front of Congress.  

@GreyhoundFan- Great minds think alike- posted at the same time!

 

Edited August 10, 2022 by AlmostSavedAtTacoBell

[Audrey2]

11 minutes ago, AlmostSavedAtTacoBell said:

Trump just announced he pled the 5th in the NY civil probe into his misrepresentation of property values for loan purposes.  Wow.  This is bigly.  The takeaways really are huge.  It means that he is admitting that answering the questions would tend to criminally implicate him and since if it ends up being filed it would be a civil case and in a civil case, a jury is allowed to draw inferences that pleading the 5th means the declarant has something to hide.  So he's pretty much admitting he committed crimes and if there is a filed case that goes to trial it can hurt him at trial.  I have absolute confidence that him sitting for this deposition was just icing on the cake and that the NY AG's office already had all they needed to file with or without his deposition.  Sure, it would have been nice to get his statements under oath but this is the second best way to go- he takes the 5th and they get to not only hammer him with it at trial but now, with speculation he was going to go for a 2024 run, all the Ds as well as the never-Trumpers and newly (and increasing by the day) waking up to reality former Trumpers can use his prior claims of not needing to plead the 5th unless you are guilty of something side by side with this statement.  Hey, maybe I'm mistaken but I don't remember Hillary ever pleading the 5th during her many hours testifying in front of Congress.  

@GreyhoundFan- Great minds think alike- posted at the same time!

 

Sadly we all know this is going to be spun by Fox News and other Trump sources until pleading the fifth is perfectly fine for him and doesn't mean he's guilty at all. They'll say something like it just means he doesn't feel like answering silly questions.

The amount of mental gymnastics these people use to convince themselves that Trump is a god instead of a goon are mind blowing.

[GreyhoundFan]

[47of74]

Course Iowa's rather useless Republican Senators are whining away now about the raid at Malware-a-tugjob

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Iowa Republican Senators Chuck Grassley and Jonie Ernst are criticizing the FBI and the Justice Department after a raid at former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.

Basically they're just echoing what ever other Branch Trumpvidian has said about the raid.  I'd tell Chuckles and Sen. Breadbags McCutyernutzoff to buy new speeches already.

[Alisamer]

Has anyone seen the warrant? I got a tweet notification that it had been released but then the image and tweet seemed to disappear. I'm curious exactly what they were looking for.

I mean we know he stole classified documents and kept them there. We know he's cozy with all sorts of people who would happily pay for state secrets, and we know money is the one thing he cares about. So I'm wondering what they found. A reciept for selling info to China? A thank you card from Putin, for the gifted documents sent to him?

Also the pleading the fifth thing is hilarious. I can see him in court now: "Mr. President, did you sell classified information to China?" "I plead the fifth." "Mr. President, is this you in these several different video clips of your speeches saying that only guilty people plead the fifth?" "I plead the fifth."

I wonder how many tranquilizers he was on to make him cooperate with pleading the fifth? He's so easy to rile up, I can't imagine him getting through an actual questioning without getting mad and incriminating himself. 

[47of74]

Oh Lordy, there are tapes

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After Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago, they subpoenaed the Trump Organization for a copy of Mar-a-Lago’s surveillance tapes, a person with knowledge of the matter said. The company complied, turning over the tapes to the government.

 

[47of74]

16 hours ago, Anne Of Gray Gables said:

I'm pretty Secret Service protection to a former president can't just be shut off. There's some discussion here. https://news.yahoo.com/secret-protection-donald-trump-slammer-010915622.html

I think he'll see trials, although probably not prison time. Hopefully he dies first. He's a cancer that needs to be cut out and burned. But it's fun to imagine him wasting away again in Seagoville with Joshley Duggar. 

Well, if anything it would make life a bit easier for the Secret Service agents assigned to protect him since he'd be in one place just about all the time.   And he'd be isolated since he'd last about two minutes in general pop.  According to the article you linked

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"Is an agent going to be with him inside a cell? No," said the former Secret Service official, who guessed that Trump would wind up in a "country club-type place" if he's convicted. But there would likely be at least one agent on the property to protect the president, even if that person isn't "walking on his shoulder out in the yard."

Such a job isn't likely to be a coveted assignment for any Secret Service agent, that person said, unless they're also studying to get their master's degree. "I would think you'd have a lot of time to do some reading."

Up to me I'd change the law so that any Secret Service protectees sent to prison has protection provided by the Bureau of Prisons and not the Secret Service for the duration of his or her stay.  After prison, well at the most it should be case by case because I could see the next Trumpie wannabe and GQP members of Congress framing a Democratic President for something and sending him or her to prison in retaliation. 

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But other legal experts expect that authorities would choose to house an imprisoned Trump in a much more secure facility, both for his own protection and the protection of the prison.

Of particular concern would be Trump's "martyr status" among some of his most loyal — and potentially dangerous — supporters who might act on grand notions of attacking a prison and freeing Trump, said Mike Lawlor, a criminal justice professor at the University of New Haven and a former undersecretary for criminal justice policy and planning for the state of Connecticut.

Given how fuck face egged them on I could see some dumb ass Branch Trumpvidian terrorists attacking a prison to try to free him.

Edited August 10, 2022 by 47of74

[AnywhereButHere]

4 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

 

More whining from TFG. I have no doubt that the entire search was filmed.

[GreyhoundFan]

Of course he never read anything he signed...

[GreyhoundFan]

"The talking points criticizing the Trump search in Mar-a-Lago, broken down"

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Republicans wasted virtually no time in decrying the search of former president Donald Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago — despite our having very little detail about the search, and despite their very pronounced past concerns about presidential candidates protecting government documents.

But beyond the reflexivity of the reaction, there are the actual arguments used to decry this situation about which we have such precious little actual information. The talking points are remarkably consistent across Trump’s lengthy response, GOP lawmakers’ comments and Fox News’s coverage. The message discipline is remarkable.

What about the message itself? It’s worth breaking down several of the key talking points.

Talking Point No. 1: If it could happen to Trump, it could happen to you

This is perhaps the most pervasive line of rhetoric, having been pushed by multiple Fox News commentators, Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), the Heritage Foundation, the House Judiciary Committee’s GOP members and many others. Many have connected it to a bill passed in the Senate over the weekend that would add 87,000 IRS agents who, the argument goes, could be turned against Trump supporters. And if there’s one thing Republicans have successfully exploited in recent years, it’s a sense of persecution.

Like other talking points, though, this leads to the question: Are they saying Trump should be held to a different standard? We don’t know what was in the search warrant or what evidence was used to obtain it, but we do know that it pertains to the removal of documents from the White House, which has been reported on extensively. The National Archives has said on the record that it retrieved 15 boxes of materials from Mar-a-Lago that were supposed to have been handed over to it, and The Washington Post has reported that those materials included ones marked “classified” and even “top secret.” A Trump lawyer now says 12 more boxes were taken, after a dispute about whether Trump had turned over everything he had.

If you removed such documents from the White House, logic would suggest, you, too, would find federal agents quite interested in retrieving those materials. Most people are not in that position or anything close to it.

This is a core problem with the pushback. It is certainly possible that, ultimately, the evidence will be judged insufficient for the search in the court of public opinion (although it had the approval of a judge), but we simply don’t know! Without that, it’s kind of premature to say this is the tip of the emerging police-state iceberg.

Making such a claim without knowing these details sounds a lot like saying a former president should be exempt from investigation, which kind of undermines the idea that nobody is above the law — a common refrain among Republicans when a certain other presidential hopeful was being investigated in 2016. What if the evidence behind the search is damning? The problem with this talking point is that it doesn’t allow for that possibility. It just presumes this is a pittance, when there’s no firm reason to believe that.

Talking Point No. 2: Biden has ‘weaponized’ the DOJ

Many made another rather extraordinary leap, suggesting the White House, or even President Biden himself, was responsible for the search.

Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade relayed such a claim after speaking with Eric Trump, saying the order “has to have come from @POTUS and/or someone in White House.” Trump speculated Tuesday that Biden “absolutely signed off on this.” Heritage said, “Biden needs to answer the question of whether he ordered this raid.” Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) declared that “until Joe Biden denies it, a President just raided a former President — his political opponent.”

Others laid this at Biden’s feet more obliquely, with Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) saying, “Biden has taken our republic into dangerous waters.” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said, “Biden is playing with fire by using a document dispute to get the @TheJusticeDept to persecute a likely future election opponent.” The Republican National Committee declared this as evidence of how “Democrats continually weaponize the bureaucracy against Republicans.”

It’s difficult to prove a negative, but there is zero evidence to even suggest Biden or the White House had anything to do with this. The White House has said it had no advance knowledge of the search. Biden said in 2019 that he would not order the Department of Justice to investigate or prosecute Trump. And it would indeed be highly irregular for him or the White House to do anything of the sort.

(Similarly, both Trump and Fox News’s Jesse Watters have moved on to suggesting — again, without any evidence — that the agents who searched Mar-a-Lago might have planted evidence. This is a very serious charge, treated entirely unseriously.)

This talking point is also particularly rich against the backdrop of Trump’s demonstrated penchant for meddling in Justice Department business. There is a president in recent years who has repeatedly and very publicly pushed for politically expedient investigations and prosecutions, including of his electoral opponent. But it was Trump. Biden has demonstrated nowhere near such a heavy hand when it comes to the Justice Department.

Talking Point No. 3: This is third-world stuff

This was in Trump’s statement and was soon picked up by many others.

“This is what happens in Third World countries. Not the United States,” said the House Judiciary GOP. A Fox News commentator repeatedly called the search “third-world [expletive]” in a viral clip. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) likened it to what happens in a banana republic. Rubio warned we were on track to become like Nicaragua and added, “Using government power to persecute political opponents is something we have seen many times from 3rd world Marxist dictatorships. But never before in America.”

It’s certainly valid to worry about the precedent this kind of thing sets — again, depending upon the actual evidence, to which we’re not yet privy.

But we have indeed seen the American government investigate matters involving politicians, and even a former president in the opposite political party. After Bill Clinton left office, the Justice Department investigated whether Marc Rich effectively purchased his pardon. Richard M. Nixon was sure to be investigated extensively even after he left office for Watergate — we learned in recent years that a grand jury drafted an indictment before he left office — but Gerald Ford effectively took that off the table by pardoning Nixon a month after Nixon resigned in 1974.

This is also hardly the territory of only the Third World. Former presidents in European and other developed countries have repeatedly been investigated and even convicted after leaving office in recent years, including in Israel and South Korea, and it has happened to multiple recent former French leaders. It’s certainly more common in the Third World, where criminal prosecutions are politically weaponized, but it’s not unheard-of elsewhere.

That it hasn’t happened in the United States is a reflection of our unease about that, but it could also be a reflection of what our limited number of presidents did or didn’t do. Again, it’s a matter of the evidence, when we get it — which can then be compared to other former presidents whose conduct was questioned but not prosecuted or subjected to a search warrant.

Talking Point No. 4: Trump could have just declassified the documents

This one has been added to the mix later than the others — apparently for a reason. Rep. Michael R. Turner (R-Ohio) suggested Tuesday that Trump might have declassified the documents he allegedly took, saying that Trump as then-president “unlike Hillary Clinton has the ability to declassify those materials. So, you don’t know what the status of these materials.” Former Trump White House aide Stephen Miller added Tuesday night on Fox News that “the president controls classification authority” and that his word is superior to the National Archives on whether materials were classified.

It’s true that presidents have broad authority over the classification and declassification of documents. But Trump can’t do it retroactively, particularly as a former president who no longer wields such power. It’s also illegal to declassify material for an improper purpose, such as covering up a crime.

Back in May, former Trump administration official Kash Patel claimed that Trump had indeed declassified the materials in the 15 boxes the National Archives retrieved from Mar-a-Lago before leaving office, even if documents still had classified markings on them.

This figures to be a potentially key defense for Trump if this ever gets into the criminal realm — especially given that there’s no set declassification procedure.

But notably, Fox News host Laura Ingraham actually pressed Miller on whether Trump had declassified the latest documents — rightly pointing out that “we don’t know” whether he did — and Miller demurred.

“It wouldn’t matter either way,” Miller said. “His decision would be the final word, presuming that’s even the case.”

That statement sounds less certain than Patel’s was. Certainly, this is space worth watching.

 

[GreyhoundFan]

[Dandruff]

3 hours ago, Alisamer said:

I mean we know he stole classified documents and kept them there. We know he's cozy with all sorts of people who would happily pay for state secrets, and we know money is the one thing he cares about. So I'm wondering what they found. A reciept for selling info to China? A thank you card from Putin, for the gifted documents sent to him?

I'm wondering what they may not have found and where it could have gotten to.

[GreyhoundFan]

[Xan]

This popped up on Twitter.  It's excellent.

[Howl]

Just to keep y'all up to date on the REAL reason Trump was targeted -- he was going to expose satanic pedophile rings...but now he can't...or something. No reason given on why he is unable to expose these satanic pedophile rings by just posting on Truth-y Social...it's mystifying. 

 

[Becky]

20 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

Of course he never read anything he signed...

This is absolutely delicious!  

[GreyhoundFan]

I'm posting this here because it is related to the FBI search warrant. I'm expecting more of the same from the RWNJs.

"Gun-wielding suspect makes threats at FBI building in Cincinnati, reports say"

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CINCINNATI (WKRC/TND) — Interstate 71 in Ohio was shut down Thursday morning in both directions and there was a lockdown in effect after shots were fired in the area.

The Clinton County Emergency Management Agency said there was an armed suspect in the area of State Road 73, Smith Road and State Road 380.

The lockdown covered within a one-mile radius of Smith Road and Center Road.

Investigators have not released any other information directly to WKRC, but reports indicate the incident in Clinton County is tied to Cincinnati.

Multiple news outlets are reporting a suspect armed with a weapon was at the FBI building in the city making threats. The person then fled the scene and drove toward Waynesville, Ohio, reports said. Some witnesses reported the person was seen firing at authorities from a corn field. The Federal Bureau of Investigation's building appears to no longer be under a threat.

The Warren County Emergency Management Agency tweeted the roads in that area are closed due to an "active law enforcement incident." WKEF reported Ohio Department of Transportation cameras showed empty roads around the exit, including those along I-71.

WKRC and WKEF have crews on the way.

This apparent threat comes after some people have been using violent rhetoric in the wake of the agency's search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home. It's not clear if the incident in Ohio is tied to the Florida search but FBI Director Christopher Wray called threats circulating online against federal agents and the Justice Department “deplorable and dangerous.”

Wray was appointed as the agency’s director in 2017 by Trump.

“I’m always concerned about threats to law enforcement,” Wray said. “Violence against law enforcement is not the answer, no matter who you’re upset with.”