2020 Election Results Part 6: A President-Elect Who Will Make Trump Irrelevant Again!!

[HerNameIsBuffy]

19 minutes ago, purple_summer said:

Popping in to ask if any Canadian fj-ers wanna adopt me so I can get across the border? I’m just outside the “extended family” qualifier ??

If adopting middle aged women is a thing I would also like to put myself up for adoption to a lovely Canadian as well.

[adidas]

Really interesting statistics here, from a Reuters poll. I scanned to see if it had already been posted but could have missed it.

79% of Americans surveyed believe that Biden won the election.

13% said it hasn’t been decided yet.

3% believe Trump won.

5% said they didn’t know who won.

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-election-almost-80-per-cent-of-americans-believe-biden-won-the-election/news-story/377f77901a9f34ac249cb25e539fdeae

[HerNameIsBuffy]

6 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

And no more pressers from people with ridiculous statements and antics, as an example, Mike Pompeo. I see he is hitting the road for an overseas tour, good. 

Once Biden is installled, doesn’t he have the ability to right/counter the decisions made in these few weeks? 

I think we need to know about the ridiculous statements like Pompeo’s.  That was absolutely chilling and we can’t afford to look away right now.

soon, but not yet.

trump always accuses others of what he is doing or wants to do.  During this end time of Obamas presidency he repeatedly warned that he thought Obama would go to war with Iran so he would get to remain in office due to emergency crisis.  
 

the fact that his head went there 4 years ago means he might think that could work.  Hopefully not, but we need to pay attention to his fucking with the military right now. 

[WarriorJane]

Re Buffy:  This is way off topic now and several days old, but I just wanted to share that my husband's nickname was Buffy for awhile when he was a kid.  He actually looked like the brother on the show, Jody, but his friend got them mixed up and called him Buffy and it stuck, though it was shortened to Buff.  I have seen pictures of him from about 8 to 10 years old and he did look like the boy on the show.  My husband's a big tall guy and looks nothing like that now and certainly doesn't look like a "Buffy".  Lol!

[PreciousPantsofDoom]

Saw Donny Deutch (I now have to admit that I'm not sure how to spell his name because I may or may not have always referred to him as Donny Douchebag in the years before the other Donny became a better candidate for that title) on MSNBC yesterday.  He thinks this bullshit that The Orange menace is currently pulling is all "preproduction" drama for Trump TV. Orange D thinks setting himself up as the aggrieved victim of a giant conspiracy is more compelling to his potential viewers. Anywhere from 20-70 million idiots might be willing to pay a $6 subscription to see their dear cruelly robbed leader air his grievances -but it's less attractive if he's just a loser whining on TV. (spoiler alert-he IS a loser. ) As usual with him, it's all about his bottom line+his ego. 

I do think this circus of denial might have unintended consequences for Republicans in those still to come Senate races in Georgia. I can see Dems there making dam sure to get out the vote AND I could even see a few republican voters coming to their senses after seeing all this crazy. 

[AmazonGrace]

 

[WarriorJane]

33 minutes ago, adidas said:

Really interesting statistics here, from a Reuters poll. I scanned to see if it had already been posted but could have missed it.

79% of Americans surveyed believe that Biden won the election.

13% said it hasn’t been decided yet.

3% believe Trump won.

5% said they didn’t know who won.

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-election-almost-80-per-cent-of-americans-believe-biden-won-the-election/news-story/377f77901a9f34ac249cb25e539fdeae

What scares me about this stat is that's 21% of Americans living in an alternate reality.   That's a significant number.  That means 1 in 5 people I potentially encounter don't just have a different political ideology than I do, it means they are off the rails.   

[Maggie Mae]

I get the Trump emails too, they remind me of the old Publisher's Clearing House scams we get in the mail mail back in the 80s. 

[WiseGirl]

Canadian FJrs my great-grandparents were French Canadian.  Can I come back now?

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[Maggie Mae]

34 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

 

Ugh, that 20 point spread was before all the votes are in, it went from +38 R to +20ish last night when they added 70K out of 167K uncounted votes. I don't think the Bear Doctor is going to win, but I hate that he's all "look how much my guy won"... 

Also here is a link to a guy who has a rundown on some of the shadiness of the AK election. 

 

[church_of_dog]

1 hour ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

If adopting middle aged women is a thing I would also like to put myself up for adoption to a lovely Canadian as well.

Me three please! ??

[HerNameIsBuffy]

31 minutes ago, WiseGirl said:

Canadian FJrs my great-grandparents were French Canadian.  Can I come back now?

If that's the way to do it, my dad was born in Germany.  Any of our German FJs want to take in a long lost cousin?

[AnywhereButHere]

Me fourth! I'm already adopted, so I've had experience. I'll be good! ?

My husband wants to beg France for a re-do on the dual citizen option he missed out on years ago. His mom vetoed that and his dad's first choice at naming him. He's happy about the name thing, but a bit annoyed at the citizenship!

[fraurosena]

Speaking of fraudulent elections... it's time to do the math on all of the surprising Senate wins. Something smells mighty fishy. Because let's face it, up til now everything they've accused the Dems of doing, they have done themselves.

 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

4 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

Speaking of fraudulent elections... it's time to do the math on all of the surprising Senate wins. Something smells mighty fishy. Because let's face it, up til now everything they've accused the Dems of doing, they have done themselves.

 

I wouldn't doubt it, but there are independents would skew hard republican in rural KY if they believed the whole "they're coming for our guns" argument.

[Dandruff]

1 hour ago, Alisamer said:

I do think Trump is attempting a coup. I don't see it working. The majority of the rest of the world has already made it clear they are accepting Biden as the winner.

Some, but not all.

1 hour ago, SassyPants said:

And no more pressers from people with ridiculous statements and antics, as an example, Mike Pompeo. I see he is hitting the road for an overseas tour, good.

Not good about Pompeo (IMO).  He's there for a reason - what is it?  What will the rest of the world do after January 20th if Trump wants to engage?  It may be worth looking at which countries have congratulated Biden (acknowledging his win) and which haven't.  Where are the dependencies with the US?  Are there any other major world powers who will/might stick with Trump?

 

[Alisamer]

1 minute ago, fraurosena said:

Speaking of fraudulent elections... it's time to do the math on all of the surprising Senate wins. Something smells mighty fishy. Because let's face it, up til now everything they've accused the Dems of doing, they have done themselves.

 

I kind of hope there is an in-depth investigation, because I suspect it'll come out the exact opposite of how the Republicans think it will. Remember Trump told his supporters to vote by mail AND vote in person on Election Day - some Trumpster somewhere did that, I'm sure of it. 

In general, Democrats tend to be more likely to trust the system when it comes to the framework of democracy. It's the rabid Trumplicans who are the ones convinced the whole system is corrupt and therefore it's perfectly fine - even expected - for them to cheat it any way they can.

You can see this right now, in contrasting Obama's treatment of Trump just after the election, and Trump's treatment of Biden. There's not going to be a welcome meeting, a congratulations, a peaceful transition. Trump's team isn't going to leave systems already set up and ready for Biden's team to step in. Biden's team will be lucky to have desks and chairs when they get there. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

10 minutes ago, Dandruff said:

Some, but not all.

Not good about Pompeo (IMO).  He's there for a reason - what is it?  What will the rest of the world do after January 20th if Trump wants to engage?  It may be worth looking at which countries have congratulated Biden (acknowledging his win) and which haven't.  Where are the dependencies with the US?  Are there any other major world powers who will/might stick with Trump?

 

Eurdouan (sp) from Turkey has congratulated Biden but we don’t know if that’s genuine or optics.  
 

if I ran the zoo I’d have a camera on Pompeo 24/7 until this is over.

16 minutes ago, Dandruff said:

Some, but not all.

I’m going to research and try to find numbers later tonight, but I want to know how many people who voted for him are his hard core base willing to take to the streets over this.

the vast, vast majority of those who voted for him won’t get violent on his behalf, or even march.

the crazy people at his rallies, the mobs from election that were harassing poll workers, Etc...those are who we need to worry about atm.

 

do you think we’re taking millions of people?  Hundreds of thousands?  Hopefully far fewer.

[AmazonGrace]

 

[thoughtful]

How fitting - Delaware is often called The First State, since it was first to ratify the Constitution.

[GreyhoundFan]

 

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[HerNameIsBuffy]

2 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

 

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If that last tweet doesn’t scare the hell out of someone they aren’t paying attention.

[Alisamer]

Just now, Dandruff said:

Are there any other major world powers who will/might stick with Trump?

I think his main allies are Russia, North Korea, and maybe Saudi Arabia. I don't know where China or Turkey would fall.

Netanyahu has already congratulated Biden, and mentioned having a "warm 40-year relationship" with him and saying Biden is a "friend of Israel" (all that on Twitter, fwiw), so I think Trump might be SOL there. I think most other major players have congratulated Biden as well. We won't know who has officially sent congratulations through the State Department, because Trump's team is holding onto them. 

Really, the rest of the world has enough to do right now dealing with Covid. Nobody's got time to deal with a petulant manbaby refusing to accept the truth. Unfortunately, he has the ability to cause worldwide problems right now. Once inauguration day comes, they can just send in the secret service or police to escort his ass out and charge him with trespassing, but we've got to get to that point without him starting a war.

I think it's possible Pence might be the best answer, if things get crazy worse. It's still possible to 25th amendment Trump, but probably not until more rats have fled the sinking ship, and the more flunkies he puts in to support him the harder it will be. 

Ugh. The dude needs to take his golf clubs and book deal and retire already. Start a TV network, go on a giving speeches rally tour. Do whatever, just get the hell out of government.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

1 minute ago, Alisamer said:

I think his main allies are Russia, North Korea, and maybe Saudi Arabia. I don't know where China or Turkey would fall.

Netanyahu has already congratulated Biden, and mentioned having a "warm 40-year relationship" with him and saying Biden is a "friend of Israel" (all that on Twitter, fwiw), so I think Trump might be SOL there. I think most other major players have congratulated Biden as well. We won't know who has officially sent congratulations through the State Department, because Trump's team is holding onto them. 

Really, the rest of the world has enough to do right now dealing with Covid. Nobody's got time to deal with a petulant manbaby refusing to accept the truth. Unfortunately, he has the ability to cause worldwide problems right now. Once inauguration day comes, they can just send in the secret service or police to escort his ass out and charge him with trespassing, but we've got to get to that point without him starting a war.

I think it's possible Pence might be the best answer, if things get crazy worse. It's still possible to 25th amendment Trump, but probably not until more rats have fled the sinking ship, and the more flunkies he puts in to support him the harder it will be. 

Ugh. The dude needs to take his golf clubs and book deal and retire already. Start a TV network, go on a giving speeches rally tour. Do whatever, just get the hell out of government.

Pence should have been lobbying for 25th since Saturday.  He could at least redeem himself a bit if he stepped in to stop carnage both to people and the democracy.  But when he told the republican senate yesterday he hopes he’ll continue as vp into the next term he’s clearly lost his mind as well.

idk if the guy who stops trump is an asshole as long as he’s pragmatic enough to actually stop him.

[Howl]

I'm contemplating things here.   

What we are seeing may be several things. Michael Cohen in an interview yesterday on Ari Melber thinks that Trump will go to Mar a Lago at XMas and not return.  Cohen also noted that Trump has no income stream; he's got to stay around and grift for as long as possible. It occurred to me earlier this year that Trump, besides liking to golf, NEEDS to be at his golf courses to bring in revenue.  Having him in residence is a big source of income, because the entire retinue, aides, Secret Service and what ever else all have to be housed and fed and the government is charged for that, and Trump properties rakes in the dough. 

So, a lot of other shit going down.  Many people have used Trump's chaos presidency to cover illegal and quasi illegal activities, to do things in secret that may become uncomfortably public when Biden takes over.  I'm talking agents of our government in at least the Government Accounting Office, Interior, Homeland Security, DoD (egregious malfeasance) and currently DoD and elsewhere. 

These people, and many in Congress, are desperate and capable of anything (maybe not murder) to keep the graft going and the government money spigot open.  When Biden finally gets in and start looking at who got the govt. relief funds that were supposed to go to small businesses -- even the most cynical among us will be shocked. 

What I'm getting at is we may not be looking at one process, but rather multiple parties desperate to keep Trump in power, and also to influence the base that the election is not legit for different reasons, but all being abetted and provided cover by Faux News, Trump Bill Barr, Moscow Mitch, Pompeo, et al..

I'd just like to point out that on the news side of Fox on Monday, Neil Cavuto cut out from Kayleigh McEnany's  blatant lies during his broadcast. 

Fox News Cuts Off Kayleigh McEnany Press Conference for Spreading Election Lies

“Unless she has more details to back that up, I can’t in good countenance continue showing you this,” Fox News’ Neil Cavuto told viewers.

That's how deeply twunt-y Ms. Kayleigh "I promise I won't lie to you" has compromised herself. 

ETA: Don't know if this has any bearing on anything, but the new Congress is seated on Jan 3rd unless the old congress changes the date, like if Jan 3rd is a weekend or a, you know, coup going on. 

Edited November 11, 2020 by Howl