Lori Alexander: 64: Continuing the Sardines into the Next Generation

[Lgirlrocks]

Sleepovers aren’t just so moms can have mom time it’s so the kids can get away. I had the majority of my sleepovers at families houses. I slept a lot at my aunt P’s. Her kids were grown when I was at sleep over age. I’d usually sleep over with my older brother and eventually my younger brother. He was four years younger than me. I also slept a lot at my grandmas house. She lived by herself and loved the company. I also got tasked with sleeping with my grandma whenever we went out of town for family events. 

I did have friend sleepovers too. I had a few birthday parties where friends stayed the night. Nothing wrong with that. I didn’t watch porn or talk about sex. I was a kid/teen.   

One of the chat room posters said this in her post: “They let me ‘choose to explore my own faith.’ There is nothing wrong with parents letting their kids discover religion on their own. Maybe they knew they didn’t have all the answers so they wanted you to figure things out on your own. My mom was livid when I told her I wasn’t taking a world religious class in college. She said I didn’t need to take it because I know the truth. It was a very insiteful class. Taught me a lot about other people’s cultures and beliefs. 

Public school isn’t the enemy. People being lazy and thinking that because they send their kids to public school they no longer have to parent them. My mom didn’t want to stop home schooling me because it was more work for me to go out for school. She had to make sure I was taken/picked up or that I got on the bus on time. It didn’t matter what I wanted or that I felt bored at home. 

[SongRed7]

1 hour ago, Lgirlrocks said:

Sleepovers aren’t just so moms can have mom time it’s so the kids can get away. I had the majority of my sleepovers at families houses.

Wait! Doesn't Lori's grandchildren sleep over at her house a lot?   Check mate. 

 

[Lgirlrocks]

38 minutes ago, SongRed7 said:

Wait! Doesn't Lori's grandchildren sleep over at her house a lot?   Check mate. 

 

Lori is a do as I say not as I do person. She’s a godly mentor so nothing applies to her that applies to us. 

[delphinium65]

'For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.'  I hadn't thought of that verse in quite a long time, but change men's to women's, and you've got Lori.  Who was Jesus talking about?  That's right, the Pharisees.  The next bit is 'But all their works they do for to be seen of men,' and you don't have to change men to women there, since Lori is so desperate for male attention these days.  

[EowynW]

Can't have the government investigating molestation or rape in families now, can we. Fuck you, Erin. 

[ViolaSebastian]

15 hours ago, ColeJo said:

Lori is clueless.

Look, it may be easier to talk about personal details with someone of the same gender. My inner Olivia Benson is going crazy reading her replies because as always, she's being ignorant.

This bothers me so much. Not everyone has a family they could look to comfort them—nor do they always get raped in a place that their family could easily afford to travel to. She’s so privileged and short-sighted. 

[Rowan]

19 minutes ago, EowynW said:

Can't have the government investigating molestation or rape in families now, can we. Fuck you, Erin. 

"Don't rely on the government to deal with molestation and rape in the family because the government will do things to move the people involved away from "Godly ways?" So - Erin Dale Carter is saying that rape and molestation ARE Godly? Or that they are ok to happen as long as the perp and victim remain loyal to God? I just can't.

[delphinium65]

10 minutes ago, Rowan said:

"Don't rely on the government to deal with molestation and rape in the family because the government will do things to move the people involved away from "Godly ways?" So - Erin Dale Carter is saying that rape and molestation ARE Godly? Or that they are ok to happen as long as the perp and victim remain loyal to God? I just can't.

That's what I was getting from it.  At the very least she seems to be saying that molestation and rape aren't bad enough to justify intervention as long as there's someone teaching 'godly ways' in the family.  Also take note that Lori didn't disagree, or address the question of sexual abuse at all, so again I think we can safely assume that she just doesn't give a damn.  

[ViolaSebastian]

We do know, though, that consultant Ken Alexander of San Diego, California, thinks that incestual molestation is totally normal, so there’s that. 

[refugee]

On 4/8/2019 at 6:27 PM, Frog99 said:

From where did the concept or phrase “biblical womanhood” come? 

I’ve been pondering this. I was caught up in it, but I don’t know where it originated. Crystal Paine even had a website by that name, didn’t she?

On the topic, here’s a song from the musical Ragtime that beautifully expresses the disillusionment of coming out from under the spell.

Spoiler

Back to Before

 

[Lgirlrocks]

Before they are gone: 

eve didn’t cause the fall it was Adam. Adam new better but decided to listen to eve instead of god. If Adam had told eve no we wouldn’t be living in sin. 

Women being told to love their husbands and take care of their children and home has nothing to do with not working outside of the home. Nowhere does the Bible say women can’t work outside the home. It does say a lot about not working and being lazy. 

[smittykins]

1 hour ago, ViolaSebastian said:

This bothers me so much. Not everyone has a family they could look to comfort them—nor do they always get raped in a place that their family could easily afford to travel to. She’s so privileged and short-sighted. 

Not to mention that some people are raped by someone IN their family.

[mango_fandango]

Actually most rapes/sexual assaults are perpetrated by someone the victim knows. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/17-staggering-sexual-assault-statistics-everyone-should-read/ar-BBVK6WB

And again with the belief that sending kids to public schools will make them atheist Democrats... the stupid, it burns.

[RosyDaisy]

I live in rural Alabama. It is usually Christians who are trying to convert the atheists in public schools, not the other way around.

Now about that picture of Trey...WTF? So this is the asshole spewing vile shit on Lori's social media? This guy supposedly trying to find a husband for his daughter? Yeah....I don't think so. Trey has a very vivid imagination.

[SHERA]

On 3/27/2019 at 7:28 AM, Free Jana Duggar said:

So does anyone out there think one of Lori's DILs is on birth control?  She sure is beating a dead horse about contraceptives lately. Doesn't one of them have 4? That seems like plenty.

She really is ignorant. The only times I took birth control was during my infertility treatments. I unfortunately watched her YouTube about her 27yo daughter that couldn’t get pregnant. Selfish 

On 3/27/2019 at 7:11 AM, EowynW said:

I really appreciate reading the stories of those who were spanked who aren't carrying the tradition on. Mr. & I weren't just spanked for serious or dangerous issues, like running into the street, playing with light socket, etc. He was spanked for stuff like not making up the bed well enough or quick enough, I was spanked often for just being me, a very questioning, unsubmissive and bold girl who would get in trouble by questioning the status quo. That shit stops with us, and if we ever have a kid we will not being passing those chains down. 

My dad would spank me because I held my nose closed while I swam underwater and other nonsense. I’ve already warned my husband we will not be perpetuating stupid things.

[Sarah92]

Rape it a totally different experience that OBGYN appointments and many women who experience sexual assault are often traumatized by the assault and don't want to be alone with a male. I work with a large number of women who were sexually abused. I'd say a large portion was from either a family member or a significant other. Many have family members who don't give a damn that they were raped or assaulted. Quite a few had mothers who simply didn't care that their husband/ SO molested their children because "I just couldn't thinking about him doing that/ I didn't want to lose him". 

And those super conservative families see rape as something to be taken care of in the family via the Gothard Method like the Duggars. At least that's my perspective. 

[lilwriter85]

8 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

Sleepovers aren’t just so moms can have mom time it’s so the kids can get away. I had the majority of my sleepovers at families houses. I slept a lot at my aunt P’s. Her kids were grown when I was at sleep over age. I’d usually sleep over with my older brother and eventually my younger brother. He was four years younger than me. I also slept a lot at my grandmas house. She lived by herself and loved the company. I also got tasked with sleeping with my grandma whenever we went out of town for family events. 

I did have friend sleepovers too. I had a few birthday parties where friends stayed the night. Nothing wrong with that. I didn’t watch porn or talk about sex. I was a kid/teen.   

One of the chat room posters said this in her post: “They let me ‘choose to explore my own faith.’ There is nothing wrong with parents letting their kids discover religion on their own. Maybe they knew they didn’t have all the answers so they wanted you to figure things out on your own. My mom was livid when I told her I wasn’t taking a world religious class in college. She said I didn’t need to take it because I know the truth. It was a very insiteful class. Taught me a lot about other people’s cultures and beliefs. 

Public school isn’t the enemy. People being lazy and thinking that because they send their kids to public school they no longer have to parent them. My mom didn’t want to stop home schooling me because it was more work for me to go out for school. She had to make sure I was taken/picked up or that I got on the bus on time. It didn’t matter what I wanted or that I felt bored at home. 

I have a friend who isn't fundie, but she is against sleepovers and her kids who are 9 and 12 have never spent the night away from home. One of the reasons she has used for being against sleepovers was that she feels parents do so they can have time for themselves.  She has mentioned safety concerns. This friend has caused drama with other mutual friends over her attitude against sleepovers or sending the kids' relatives homes for nights away or vacations.

One couple in our circle made the mistake of saying they were going to a wedding 90 miles away and how one of the grandmas was going to have their then six month old son overnight. My anti-sleepover friend told the mother that it was wrong for a six month old baby to be away from his mother. She also bashed her husband's siblings who send their kids to her in-laws house during the summer or spring breaks. 

Another couple in our circle adopted a baby a few years back. They had a baby shower a month before the baby was born where they talked about their plans. Both parents were offered paid parental leave by their employers. The mom was home with the baby for three and then the dad took the following two months off. They said that after dad returned to work, the baby would be cared for by relatives during the day. Anti-sleepover/away from home friend said that it was wrong that relatives were going to be caring for the baby. She told the couple that they should be the only ones bathing and changing the baby's diapers because "it takes longer for adoptive parents to bond with a baby".  That caused problems with that couple. They don't even speak to her anymore. 

Other similar drama has gone recently on. For example, one friend has daughter who is 10 and went to a one a week winter music camp that was held over Christmas break. Anti-sleepover/away from home friend freaked out and lectured that friend about letting her kid go away for a week. 

The anti-sleepover friend sometimes reminds me of Lori and some of Lori's fangirls except that her kids attend public school and she isn't religious. But, my friend's kids don't do any activities and she barely lets them do play dates with friends after school. I sometimes suspect that something may have happened  to my friend in her childhood that have caused her to have these extreme beliefs. 

[saintmom]

Regarding today's mantra from the psychopath, I am hereby going to call my child the "godly seed".  He will think I've lost my damn marbles, but I soooo want to do that....that is, of course, when I get home after night shift.  Where I am working.  With MEN who are NOT my husband!!!!

[usmcmom]

My sister was anti-sleepover, anti-babysitter, anti-everything. When her husband had a heart attack at a very young age, the crisis was magnified because her two young boys were traumatized being away from their mother. They were about six and nine at the time and it was really difficult for everyone - the boys and those who were trying to care for them. 

There are good reasons, besides social/emotional/work needs to get our children used to other caregivers. 

Also - shame on Lori for enabling this sinful behavior by watching Ryan's kids all the time. Heh. 

[kmachete14]

Wow I've never heard of people being anti-sleepover with grandparents, aunts/uncles ect. I mean I understand you should be skeptical of other family's homes/practices/family members, but I always reserved that for classmate's families, not my own relatives! 

Granted, my own cousins did enjoy "playing doctor" and all that nonsense, so maybe cousins should be off limits . . .

But grandma and grandpa's house??? Never!! 

 

[wallysmommy]

Many, many eons ago, when I was a child, a friend had a sleepover birthday party every year from the time we were 6 until about 12.  Her mom always made a special doll cake, and we would go to the park or to the New Orleans lakefront.  When I was 5, I spent a week with my great-aunt and uncle and their daughters.  I am still very close to the youngest daughter, 54 years later.  I think that helped me be more self-sufficient as a child, and to expand my relationships with family and friends in a healthy way.

[Libby96]

I can’t believe in the comments on her page Lori tries to compare a routine gynecological exam to an exam and interview after a rape.  Actually I can believe it, but the woman is incredibly tone deaf or either outright cruel.

Did that surgery on her brain cause some sort of damage to her personality?  I’m not even joking.  The brain is a tricky thing.

[FullOfGravy]

4 hours ago, mango_fandango said:

And again with the belief that sending kids to public schools will make them atheist Democrats... the stupid, it burns.

Of course, finals at my uni start tomorrow, and I've already met with at least one student who probably would've professed any political or religious opinion I asked them to if I promised them a passing grade.  And they're in this situation partly because they didn't do the goddamn readings.

[Sarah92]

@FullOfGravy as a recent graduate student I'd have to say I pretty much agree to that. I probably wouldn't because I'm too stubborn and hate anyone telling me what to believe or say I believe but I'd be tempted.  

So let me see if I get this straight. It's okay to expose children to a disrespectful, lazy husband who may abuse his wife but it's not okay to expose them to liberals? Oh and traumatize them again by not divorcing the bastard and letting him just repent? But you know sleep overs at grandma's and liberals are bad. Riigghhtt 

[Hane]

@wallysmommy, I posted on Things Godly Women Say, not The Transformed Wife—because I knew my post would never see the light of day and I’d be blocked.