Lori Alexander: 64: Continuing the Sardines into the Next Generation

[lilwriter85]

3 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

I don’t understand how college is evil and unnessasary UNLESS you are going to be a doctor or a lawyer. Either it’s evil for everyone or it’s not evil at all. College is very necessary to get a decent paying job. Does everyone need college? No. Most do. 

People make choice, poor or otherwise. It’s not just going to college that caused poor choices it’s life. At 18 you are an adult expected to be able to take care of yourself. While some can not everyone can. It’s all how your were raised. 

Lori sent her kids to college. It doesn’t matter which college they went to they are all the same. Filled with humans who aren’t perfect. If they stray from their upbringing either you didn’t do a good job as a parent or they found a different way to be the right way. 

I've seen other people say the similar things about college only being needed if you're going into medical, legal, or engineering fields. Lori and her leg humpers have said similar things in the past. I remember one guy saying something on Lori's FB that the degrees worth pursuing these days are STEM careers. Not everyone has interest in those fields. Some just people are just never going to be good at science or math. 

I also remember some Lori fangirl saying that people should only pursue associate's degrees from community colleges. Now, associate's degrees have aided many people in getting great jobs. But, a bachelor's degree is needed for many jobs.  A few months back, a Lori fanboy said that he didn't think college was a great choice these days due to tuition costs. He then went to talk about he was a director of nursing at a nursing home and that he got his son a maintenance job there. The son later got a higher paying job in maintenance at a hospital and he said the son has no debt and makes more money than people who've gone to college. Now, if the son is hardworking and happy with what's he's doing, where he's working and what he's making, then good for him. But, other people wouldn't want a maintenance job and in some high cost of living areas, some people might not be able to live comfortably on that income if they get married and have kids. 

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What's really sad is that Lori, like way too many people, only see college as a means to an end. There is more to gain from college attendance than a degree and a good job.

College broadens your horizons and worldview. Consequentially, fundies have to rail against it because unless you're going to fundie school, it may very well draw you away from fundamentalism.

[lilwriter85]

1 hour ago, ColeJo said:

Lori shared a quote from Abby Johnson's interview with Glenn Beck. She tries to portray college as being the source of Abby's rebellion. I don't think college on its own can possess a supposedly Christian individual to sin. The individual likely never fully believed in the first place. That is why a lot of young people "leave the faith" when they go to college.

To be honest, church youth programs should be noticing how they are failing to help students cultivate their own personal relationship with Jesus. Stop playing Chubby Bunny or Shuffle Your Buns and teach the Bible.

I can't say that I was one of those people who never really believed in the first place. When my faith became personal, my desire to know Jesus was unquenchable. It evolved from this superficial relationship of legalism to a deep, genuine relationship. "Because the Bible tells me so" doesn't cut it. I see obedience as a response to loving God with every fiber of my being, not a requirement to receive the love of God.

I saw these comments on Lori's FB regarding Abby Johnson. A lot of people believe there are credibility issues with many of the things Abby has claimed that went at the Planned Parenthood clinic that she worked at. I went to the movies yesterday with a friend and we saw a church van in the parking lot. The theater was showing Unplanned and I'm guessing a church group was there to see it. It kind of annoyed me because I believe Abby is either lying about many things or exaggerating and people eat up what she puts out. 

Out of curiosity, I looked at Abby Johnson's wikipedia expecting to find out that she went to some private Christian university. But, no, she went to public university Texas A&M. I get that many areas in Texas are conservative.  But,  I'm surprised the fangirl didn't point that Abby still attended a public university.  I laugh at the fangirl's comment about being  sad because most of her family attended that school. She's clearly doesn't appreciate that the school provided her relatives with education and career opportunities. Abby getting involved with PP is on her. It's not on Texas A&M. Nobody forced her to get involved with them. 

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Mandy- And Abby went to a conservative university too.

The Transformed Wife --Planned Parenthood was actively promoting itself to the young women on that campus.

 

Mandy-The Transformed Wife I know. It’s so sad. It’s actually the university most of my family attended as well. They use shame, guilt and fear to manipulate women.

 

 

[Sarah92]

I followed Abby Johnson for a while and just recently unfollowed her. I don't support abortion but don't want to make it illegal because it's personal and many have medical reasons. I do want it reduced through education and birth control like any reasonable individual. However, I kept following her for a different perspective but lately I felt like her tone has gotten meaner and snarky in some posts and replies so unfollowed her. I also read that some suspect she's not 100 percent being truthful on why she quit PP. 

Lori's posts about the 50s..... Ugh that's all I can say. 

[Lgirlrocks]

@Sarah92 I agree making abortion illegal won’t end it. That’s what bugs me the most about fundies. They don’t want people to use birth control, they don’t want family size limited, they don’t want higher education, they want people to stay abstinent until marriage which won’t ever happen, and they don’t want abortion legal. It doesn’t work that way. To bring the numbers down people need Proper sex education, access to birth control, and people willing to help pay for the birth of the child someone is choosing to abort, and helping to find that child a good home. I’d also argue we need to fix the foster care system and help find those kids good homes. No funds wants any of that. 

[Hane]

@Lgirlrocks, your story about your grandmother sounds so much like my own grandmother’s! Grandma was born in 1894. Because of her hard work, she was able to keep the family sheltered and fed after Grandpa lost his shirt in the Depression. 

I suggest that Lori read Russell Baker’s memoir Growing Up, in which he writes about his mother’s life as a young widow during the Depression. She had to give her youngest child to be raised by rich relatives so she wouldn’t starve. The man who loved her and wanted to marry her sent her a letter telling her he abandoned her because he felt such deep shame that he couldn’t find a job and that she deserved better. 

But, yeah—good old days.

[klein_roeschen]

45 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

@Sarah92 I agree making abortion illegal won’t end it. That’s what bugs me the most about fundies. They don’t want people to use birth control, they don’t want family size limited, they don’t want higher education, they want people to stay abstinent until marriage which won’t ever happen, and they don’t want abortion legal. It doesn’t work that way. To bring the numbers down people need Proper sex education, access to birth control, and people willing to help pay for the birth of the child someone is choosing to abort, and helping to find that child a good home. I’d also argue we need to fix the foster care system and help find those kids good homes. No funds wants any of that. 

They want the society go back to what it was 150 years ago and don't see that you can't set the clock back on that. They idolise the past as perfect and don't see the crappy life many had back than. They fail to see that with the develpment of science and technology in the last 150 years life itself was changed and can't accept that. And they don't see trough their rose colored glasses that their beloved past had partly the same flaws that our time has and other flaws, too.

[Lgirlrocks]

before it’s gone. I guess Lori and Bon missed the race riots? White privilege at its finest. Yes let’s idolize a time when black people and women were oppressed. 

[louisa05]

For anyone who might be curious, this story from 2010 outlines some of the inconsistencies in Abby Johnson's story: 

https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/the-convert/

[Lgirlrocks]

@louisa05 one week before she quit she did an interview with Fox News. https://rewire.news/article/2009/11/03/planned-parenthood-directors-holes-story-revealed-in-recent-radio-interview/

im sure if she told people she was pro life it wouldn’t be hard to find a new job after leaving pp. I know there is stigma attached to the company but not everyone feels it’s negative. 

I go to a Christian gyno, he plays joy fm in the office. I am switching my bc and if I wanted the implant in my arm he recommended I go to pp because they do it all of the time. Most doctors know pp does more the abortions. 

[Sarah92]

I didn't know planned parenthood did more than abortions until I was 25. I'm 26 now. I was always told that they only did abortions and because I never needed one/wanted one I never looked into it. But I found out about it when a fellow classmate had potential cervical cancer and needed to have it looked at but had recently lost her insurance. She told me she was thinking of going to PP. I was so shocked they did more than abortions. My classmate is okay btw. But that's how much many Christian churches push down that information or work to convince people not to even look PP's way.

Is it bad that I kinda want to watch Unplanned just to see what it's like? Most of their other movies are kinda garbage once you think about them. Like I actually kinda liked War Room until I started thinking about it and saw how abusive the husband was.  

[Hane]

@Lgirlrocks, re Bon Sharon Hamrick’s comment you posted above: A few years ago I was at a Red Hat Society get-together. Part of the entertainment was a nostalgic one-woman piece about how swell life was in the ‘50s. One of the clubs, whose members were black women, sat there watching it stony-faced while the white women laughed and applauded. When the presenter waxed nostalgic about how “we were spanked back then” and it ostensibly solved ALL the problems of society, she got a standing ovation from much of the audience—and I walked out in protest. (My action caused me to miss being called up and recognized as one of the Queen Mothers, but I didn’t care.)

Oh, and no churches were burned in my town, either, but that doesn’t mean it never happened anywhere.

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4 hours ago, Sarah92 said:

I followed Abby Johnson for a while and just recently unfollowed her. I don't support abortion but don't want to make it illegal because it's personal and many have medical reasons. I do want it reduced through education and birth control like any reasonable individual. However, I kept following her for a different perspective but lately I felt like her tone has gotten meaner and snarky in some posts and replies so unfollowed her. I also read that some suspect she's not 100 percent being truthful on why she quit PP. 

Lori's posts about the 50s..... Ugh that's all I can say. 

I read her book a few years ago.  What I got out of it was that she was a hypocrite.  She had either 2 or 3 abortions herself, I think two but I'm not positive.  One was a vacuum abortion and one was whatever the pills are called that induce abortion. (I can't remember the term)  She was not against it until well after hers, but I don't recall much (if anything) about regretting the ones she had, once she decided it was wrong.  It is possible that she did regret them and maybe I missed it if she discussed that in the book.

I don't like the idea of abortion but it's not up to me to make anybody else's decision or to judge someone if they have had one. But I do prefer that people be honest about their opinions.  And there is nothing wrong with people changing their opinions on anything.  But I am not convinced that she was/is totally honest about things.

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@louisa05 I read the article you linked. It is very interesting and it makes me convinced that her story about being present at the sonogram guided abortion very suspect.  I do remember wondering, when I read the book, why she would have been the person guiding the sonogram - something she had no experience with.  There are a lot of gaps in her story.

[refugee]

3 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

before it’s gone. I guess Lori and Bon missed the race riots? White privilege at its finest. Yes let’s idolize a time when black people and women were oppressed. 

50’s were like heaven for kids?

How about the Cold War, and the nuclear arms race, and useless drills at school that would not save anyone in case of a nuclear attack? One of my brothers put up a poster in the basement of our house. I’m going to try to put a link under the spoiler.

Spoiler

“...and kiss your ass goodbye”

oh, and my mom was absolutely miserable as a sahm.

[lilwriter85]

1 hour ago, Sarah92 said:

I didn't know planned parenthood did more than abortions until I was 25. I'm 26 now. I was always told that they only did abortions and because I never needed one/wanted one I never looked into it. But I found out about it when a fellow classmate had potential cervical cancer and needed to have it looked at but had recently lost her insurance. She told me she was thinking of going to PP. I was so shocked they did more than abortions. My classmate is okay btw. But that's how much many Christian churches push down that information or work to convince people not to even look PP's way.

Is it bad that I kinda want to watch Unplanned just to see what it's like? Most of their other movies are kinda garbage once you think about them. Like I actually kinda liked War Room until I started thinking about it and saw how abusive the husband was.  

I'll probably watch it if it hits a streaming service or cable channel that I have access to.  I'll usually watch Christian once or twice out of curiosity. 

[wallysmommy]

So this genius shares this piece of wisdom in an online forum:

The Transformed Wife technology contributes though to this wickedness. Instant access to porn on phones, people opting for online community instead of getting out amongst the real community and neighbors, addictions to social media, are just a a few negatives of technology that contribute to these dark times.

Emphasis mine.  Ain't nobody more addicted to social media than Lori Alexander.

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

I noticed that nutbag preacher Jason Cooley now comments on Lori's FB.  They seem to have a close mutual admiration going on.

I just cannot understand Lori fawning over vile people like Trey, Dave, Earl, Shawn Steele, and now Jason.

Ken please, we beg you -- click on the FB links to some of these men and read what they say about themselves.  These are men your wife admires and respects. Men who she thinks are just so so sooooo wonderful.  These are the types of men she most likely wanted your daughters to marry. They are not godly men. They are misogynists who hate women. By agreeing with them and promoting what they write Lori shows she hates women too.

Ken  -- your silence and inability/ unconcern/ laziness to make her stop implies you agree and hate women too.

[cara]

Lori has an Instagram post about using neat oregano oil on sores on her face that don't heal. She says she uses black salve for more serious 'sores'. Does she have leprosy? She talks about these skin lesions as if it's a normal thing to have. She really needs to go to a dermatologist. 

[lilwriter85]

7 hours ago, cara said:

Lori has an Instagram post about using neat oregano oil on sores on her face that don't heal. She says she uses black salve for more serious 'sores'. Does she have leprosy? She talks about these skin lesions as if it's a normal thing to have. She really needs to go to a dermatologist. 

In some past pics and videos, I've noticed a few lesions on her face. We know that she thinks sunscreen is bad because of chemicals. She said somewhere that wearing a hat should enough protection from the sun. She probably thinks dermatologists are bad. 

[wallysmommy]

I would be very concerned if I had sores on my face regularly, and I certainly wouldn't use a corrosive concoction on them.  Maybe someone should send her a jar of leeches since that would be a "natural" remedy.

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3 hours ago, lilwriter85 said:

In some past pics and videos, I've noticed a few lesions on her face. We know that she thinks sunscreen is bad because of chemicals. She said somewhere that wearing a hat should enough protection from the sun. She probably thinks dermatologists are bad. 

These reoccuring sores could actually be a sign of skin cancer. She's a damned fool for not seeing a doctor about this issue. But she probably won't.

[SilverBeach]

I have no sores anywhere on my body. But if I did, especially sores that weren't healing, I would get to a doctor fast. Lori Alexander is a certifiable loon and will likely die from something that could have been addressed by legitimate medical care. If I was one of her followers, her association with reprehensible men, on a blog that is supposed to be for women, would turn me completely off. Lori Alexander is a racist, sexist, and misogynist pseudo-Christian asshole.

[SweetLaurel]

12 minutes ago, SilverBeach said:

have no sores anywhere on my body. But if I did, especially sores that weren't healing, I would get to a doctor fast. Lori Alexander is a certifiable loon and will likely die from something that could have been addressed by legitimate medical care

I personally, just from reading her a while, think that she is at the doctor weekly, telling HIM (not HER, of course)   what for and how to and whining about her sores,  aches and pains and demanding treatment.  Just like with her organic butter,  which her humpers with 5 under 6 can't afford to buy, it is one thing for Lori - the best medical care money can buy - and pushing the oils to make herself all Godly and crap to the humpers.    She has nothing against doctors as far as I can tell, daddy who told her she shouldn't have anal sex was a doctor.  Hubby works in the medical profession.   She got treatment for the brain tumor and was granted permission to have a nanny and housekeeper while the humpers are forbidden to ask their spouses to change a diaper.  

[SilverBeach]

5 minutes ago, SweetLaurel said:

I personally, just from reading her a while, think that she is at the doctor weekly, telling HIM (not HER, of course)   what for and how to and whining about her sores,  aches and pains and demanding treatment.  Just like with her organic butter,  which her humpers with 5 under 6 can't afford to buy, it is one thing for Lori - the best medical care money can buy - and pushing the oils to make herself all Godly and crap to the humpers.    She has nothing against doctors as far as I can tell, daddy who told her she shouldn't have anal sex was a doctor.  Hubby works in the medical profession.   She got treatment for the brain tumor and was granted permission to have a nanny and housekeeper while the humpers are forbidden to ask their spouses to change a diaper.  

She has something against doctors for her skin, and has talked about slathering on that black salve crap on several occasions. Lori Alexander is anti-vax and pro-woo. Her dad is a pathologist, no living patients. Hubby is a consultant, has no medical or dental credentials whatsoever. No woo for tumor removal, so her hand was forced. No doubt she is a blatant hypocrite, but she does not appear to seek good or early medical care.