Mr and Mrs Jill Duggar 58: The D’Wreckoning

[Jellybean]

I don’t think it’s that weird.

My husband is much more knowledgeable about contemporary music than I am and is brilliant at making playlists that I love, combining music that I know with stuff that’s new to me.

I could see a husband/partner feeling somewhat helpless during pregnancy and childbirth, and if Jill was happy to have a playlist made for her, I think it’s fine. There are plenty of things Derick does that are controlling, bigoted, selfish, and unkind, and it’s possible that this wasn’t entirely selfless, but I’m going to assume the best on this one.

[Dandruff]

34 minutes ago, GreatScott said:

Am I the only one who thinks it’s weird?

Hell no, I think it's very weird.  Can't help but wonder if he chose songs that would help HIM through her labor.

[joy2world]

 

This same post was on both Derick and Jill's Twitter account, including the "Derick" and "my labor." Is he posting for both of them? I wonder if he just forgot to log out this time…

 

[mollysmom]

10 hours ago, lomo6 said:

Yeah, the Duggars' anti-education stance is fringe even in the context of conservative American evangelical Christianity.

The really religious Christians I knew growing up all went to college, even the girls. A fairly common path for a girl is to major in something like education and get married the summer after college graduation. They then teach for 2-3 years before having blessing #1 and becoming a STAHM who maybe does some tutoring or family photography on the side (or, more insidiously - peddles MLM crap on Facebook). 

 

Haha yes!! We must have the same group of friends!!! 

[emmeline]

And the latest deliberately obtuse, eye roll inducing tweet from Mr Jill Duggar: 

(Edit - had to take it out because I couldn't get it to work properly.) Text is: "We always go to the hospital for our births."

Yes, you always go to hospital for your births. AS AN EMERGENCY. 

broken tweet what am I doing?!

[Jellybean]

That tweet made me pull the ‘wtf’ face @emmeline - I was just coming over here to share it, but you beat me to it!

Seriously, Mr Jill Duggar? This is beyond disingenuous. Jill laboured at home for how many hours at home both times before being transported to the hospital? This makes it sound as though going to the hospital was part of Plan A, which doesn’t tie in with anything I’ve read previously (admittedly, I’m no expert on this family). 

 

[Alysabeth]

I saw this tweet earlier and straight away thought of Derick. 

[melon]

12 hours ago, Kittikatz said:

 

Being the 'smartest' one is sometimes very important to insecure people with a narcissistic bend. My father used to brag about his IQ score and take a great deal of joy in explaining to my mother and me how he was so much more intelligent than either of us. When I crushed him in an IQ test (and left the results where he could see them because I was so sick of hearing about his giant superior brain) he had the most ridiculous mantrum. When I was in uni he seemed to occilate between being proud of my accomplishments and wanting to tear them down. 

A past BF was utterly convinced that he knew everything. Really - like everyone else - he was nowhere close. He knew a lot about what he specialised in, but could not handle that anyone may know about the things he didn't. He lost his mind when I showed him how to use a roller to paint a wall. How could I know that?? He didn't!!! Cue biggest eyeroll ever - he could not understand that I had a life before him and  that I learned things during that life... He got dumped that evening.

I suspect ofJill is going to be even more extreme than either of these in his utter belief in his own intellectual supremacy. I feel bad for Jill and their kids - hopefully ofJill takes himself off before he does too much damage. 

Absolutely! My younger brother has a friend from church,this man has used my brother for years.According to my oldest brother,our youngest brother paid for this guy to go to college,not  once ,but twice.My youngest brother has a house that he paid for,but has never lived there...my oldest brother,after his second divorce,was living there,then J,our youngest brother let user friend from church move in..with my older brother.It went over like a lead balloon.Once ,we were visiting,and my older brother came over,this has been awhile because my father was still living.The roommate told my brother he knew more Latin and Ancient Greek,than my father did,a former Classics Professor.My father just said "Oh,really?" And when user roommate left town,he took my oldest brother's income tax refund,and cashed it! We encouraged my oldest brother to press charges.He ,my brother, said if the church friend roomie paid him back ,he would not press charges...and I was shocked,the guy did pay him back.After a few years,church friend returns to the area where my brothers live,and calls my younger brother...told him he was looking for a place he could rent and pay little to nothing....my brother said Good luck,hope it works out for you.

I do feel sorry for JIll,too.And those boys.Derick seems like the type who can NEVER admit he was wrong.Always an excuse,or will shift blame elsewhere.

[VelociRapture]

8 hours ago, GreatScott said:

 

 

this us such weird wording to me. Why is Derrick making the playlist for Jill’s labour? Is she really unable to do that herself? I know she didn’t really listen to music growing up but this seems like such an odd thing to farm out to your husband. If music is important enough for you to want during your labour, shouldn’t it be important enough for you to pick out? If not, why not just put a pandora station on? Am I the only one who thinks it’s weird? 

I didn’t have music, but I would have asked for my husband’s input if I had. I would have wanted a decent mix of our tastes so neither of us had to listen to stuff we really hated for that long. That’s just me though and if my husband hadn’t been wonderful throughout my pregnancy and labor I likely would have said, “Screw you asshole! We’re listening to only Taylor Swift now and you can just deal!” 

(We both have similar musical tastes actually - Beatles, Beach Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Queen, Linkin Park... I just like popular stuff and a bit of country music as well, while he doesn’t.)

[nst]

8 hours ago, Dandruff said:

Hell no, I think it's very weird.  Can't help but wonder if he chose songs that would help HIM through her labor.

I saw this on Jill's instagram and just laughed myself silly.  Hey Jill did it help you at all while not going to the hospital both times when you should have.  Songs are wonderful. I personally only listen to the 80's from sirus in the car

 

ps Portugal is scrapped...poo 

[QuiverFullofBooks]

I wouldn’t want to deal with the technical side of creating a playlist when super-pregnant, especially if I would have had to start by uploading CDs to a laptop. They might also have been playing it from Derick’s phone. It’s well below their usual standard of weirdness.

[SassyPants]

Hey, in terms of the birthday dinner, no free restaurant and chocolate/fudge sundae? Wonder if they went on a different night? Maybe the Duggars refused to babysit and Cathy was busy?

[Gillyweed]

3 hours ago, emmeline said:

 Text is: "We always go to the hospital for our births."

Yes, you always go to hospital for your births. AS AN EMERGENCY. 

Well, he technically isn't lying this time. 

[acheronbeach]

19 minutes ago, Gillyweed said:

Well, he technically isn't lying this time. 

That's the problem with Derick, isn't it?  He's always looking for a way to couch his dishonesty in "technical" truth or deflection to make himself look better.  He clearly knows how badly his behaviour is perceived.  

[singsingsing]

He's truly unreal. I still can't figure out if he actually believes that everyone is that damn stupid, or if he knows that most people can obviously see through his obfuscation but does it anyway. Either that or this is part of his ministry training, just practice for having to twist the Bible into pretzels to make it say what you need it to say while claiming to be a Biblical literalist.

[justoneoftwo]

Do we know that Sam wasn't in the hospital the whole time?  Or we just assume because of how long she labored?  Sorry I've forgotten what exactly they have told us.

[libgirl2]

I thought the Duggars didn't listen to any kind of music beyond classical and bluegrass? 

[singsingsing]

1 minute ago, justoneoftwo said:

Do we know that Sam wasn't in the hospital the whole time?  Or we just assume because of how long she labored?  Sorry I've forgotten what exactly they have told us.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but no, I don't believe we know that. I think it was assumed based on the length of time she (supposedly) laboured. But she easily could have laboured at home for a while, fully intending to go to the hospital when it got more intense. Or she could have laboured that long in the hospital - I know people have said that likely wouldn't happen, but I personally have no idea how long any particular hospital/doctor might let a woman labour. Maybe they really wanted to try to let her have a VBAC and everything was going okay at first so they decided to let her labour for a long time? Who knows. The Dillards aren't sharing any of that, just sniping at their followers for ~making assumptions~. 

(And they are totally not obligated to share any of it. Not at all. But they also fanned the flames of a lot of the speculation themselves by being so damn defensive and rude about it. It would have been so simple to say something like, 'As a family we've decided it'd be healthy to have a bit more privacy, so we've chosen not to share details of the birth. But Jill and Sam are both doing well, and we want to thank everyone who's prayed for us and sent good wishes!' But of course not.)

[freethemall]

I would highly recommend Jill consider the song I was very excited about on my labor playlist - "Came out of a Lady" by Rubblebucket:

(Although for my own labor I ended up just wanting to listen to calm Hawaiian ukelele music because the epidural made me so relaxed I just want to nap)

I wonder if Derrick's comment about "we always give birth in hospitals" means they've reconsidered home births, though that wouldn't explain that she came along to help with Joy's homebirth.

 

[DillyDally]

LOLing at the tweet and Derick's reply. Wow, they really must think us to be stupid. Also, "always" to me sounds like they had far more than 2 kids already.

[HarleyQuinn]

Jill, might I suggest "Short Dick Man" for your next playlist? Sums up mr. Jill

[squiddysquid]

15 minutes ago, singsingsing said:

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but no, I don't believe we know that. I think it was assumed based on the length of time she (supposedly) laboured. But she easily could have laboured at home for a while, fully intending to go to the hospital when it got more intense. Or she could have laboured that long in the hospital - I know people have said that likely wouldn't happen, but I personally have no idea how long any particular hospital/doctor might let a woman labour. Maybe they really wanted to try to let her have a VBAC and everything was going okay at first so they decided to let her labour for a long time? Who knows. The Dillards aren't sharing any of that, just sniping at their followers for ~making assumptions~. 

(And they are totally not obligated to share any of it. Not at all. But they also fanned the flames of a lot of the speculation themselves by being so damn defensive and rude about it. It would have been so simple to say something like, 'As a family we've decided it'd be healthy to have a bit more privacy, so we've chosen not to share details of the birth. But Jill and Sam are both doing well, and we want to thank everyone who's prayed for us and sent good wishes!' But of course not.)

At a hospital it's 24h of labour max.

At least where I'm from. (western 1st world country). But i can't imagine it's that different in the US. ( Didn't they say she was in labour for 70 hours - no hospital would allow 3-day-labour, much too risky.)

[Georgiana]

I haven't gone back and fact checked this (because I am at work, a concept Derick does not understand), but I am almost absolutely positive Jill was VERY open about preparing for a home birth with Izzy.  In fact, I think it was featured heavily on the show and in People magazine (all her preparations and what not).  

Once again, a very weak attempt at gaslighting from Mr. JDug.  Yes, they ENDED UP at the hospital with Izzy, but they were very open about the fact that they planned and attempted to deliver him at home.  It just didn't work out.  

So really what Derick is saying is "We always go to the hospital for our births after endangering mother and child by attempting a poorly thought out homebirth.  It never works out, so we always end up needing emergency care."  Nice, Derick.  Niiiiiiice.

[keen23]

6 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Jill, might I suggest "Short Dick Man" for your next playlist? Sums up mr. Jill

Thank you for the earworm. This song will now be in my head for the rest of the day.

Mr Jill is totally a Pissin' Preacher in training. If he and PeePee Anderson were in the same room together, the world might end.

[Georgiana]

13 minutes ago, keen23 said:

Thank you for the earworm. This song will now be in my head for the rest of the day.

Mr Jill is totally a Pissin' Preacher in training. If he and PeePee Anderson were in the same room together, the world might end.

I see him more as a future Bro Gary Hawkins myself, but a girl can dream.