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Mr and Mrs Jill Duggar 58: The D’Wreckoning


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I think what most people who argue like Derrick forget, or rather, are just completely ignorant about, is that no gender reassignment surgery is performed on minors. You can start hormone therapy at a younger age, but, at least in the Netherlands, also only under strict supervision of a medical specialist and a psychologist. No gender reassignment surgeries are being carried before you're 18 (and thus legally an adult), and even then it's not just a matter of surgery. It is a long and complex process, and your mental and bodily health are being monitored throughout the entire process.
I really wonder where people like Derrick ever got the idea from that gender reassignment surgery is performed on kids.

Edited to say: One of the public tv channels here broadcast a show called "Hij is een zij" ("He is a she"), which followed both transgender minors and adults and their families on their road to transitioning (both m to f and f to m).  Although it followed real people, it wasn’t set up like a reality show, but more like an educational program, and I personally really appreciated that they did it like that. The show was very informative, and I think programs made like this can really help create understanding and compassion.

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I think Jill will have a third kid, but I doubt she'll have more...with Derick. Not because she wants to stop, but because his decision.

I have the feeling that Jill will be the first Duggar to divorce. And that her second husband will be much better than Derick and much more hippie.

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1 minute ago, Melissa1977 said:

I have the feeling that Jill will be the first Duggar to divorce. And that his second husband will be much better than Derick and much more hippie.

His or her?  His makes it much more interesting given some speculation that was happening I think in a previous incarnation of the Jill/Derrick thread. :my_biggrin:

I guess it all depends on how they get along at home and how they deal with life over time.  Internet personalities can also be different to real life personalities.

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13 minutes ago, Someone Out There said:

His or her?  His makes it much more interesting given some speculation that was happening I think in a previous incarnation of the Jill/Derrick thread. :my_biggrin:

I guess it all depends on how they get along at home and how they deal with life over time.  Internet personalities can also be different to real life personalities.

Sorry!!! no, I meant HER second husband!!! I'm going to correct it :boom:

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8 hours ago, CaricatureQualities said:

That was magical. Half-way through your post I started envisioning our Big D running through a meadow of clouds with cherubic cartoon unicorns farting rainbows all over him...also completely tame velociraptors were there running about also farting rainbows..he was running gleefully over rainbow-fart bridges with them at high speed. It was truly a dream...

And then a fearsome ogre called "The Librelle Ah!-Jenda" ate his fucking legs off and evaporated all the unicorns and dinosaurs and the rainbows and all he was left with was farts.

P.S. I think I should write and illustrate this as a children's book for Sam and Iz  parody of those Tuttle Twins books. What colour should The Librelle Ah!Jenda monster be?

Nah. No self respecting velociraptor would be caught fossilized with this asshole. We’re much too busy trying to devour that sweet hunk of meat Chris Pratt.

ETA: Just caught up. So Sir “Protects the Children” is harassing Trans kids again? Color me completely unsurprised in anyway. It’s sad what a waste of space he is.

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9 hours ago, CaricatureQualities said:

<snip>What colour should The Librelle Ah!Jenda monster be?

Lavender, of course.  Here's a possible image of the Librelle Ah!Jenda.

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7 hours ago, nastyhobbitses said:

you dense bigoted baby-carrot-dick piece of shit).

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I love this.

I bet this sp3ct3r person on reddit is actually Mr. Jill himself. 

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9 hours ago, Kittikatz said:

Perez summed it up - so many of these evanglical fundies really missed the whole judge not lest ye be judged thing. That said, I do hope hell has a separate section for the religious hypocrites like the D'Wrecks - we don't need them mingling in the general population killing the fun and harassing the demons.

 

Live your post KittiKatz. Hell will be fun because most of us will be there!! Hope we can have an FJ section!!

I never thought I would agree with PerezHilton ever. He was a complete idiot on the BritishBB show. But I do for that tweet! 

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33 minutes ago, Gobsmacked said:

I never thought I would agree with PerezHilton ever. He was a complete idiot on the BritishBB show. But I do for that tweet! 

Yup. Perez Hilton is trash but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I second everything @nastyhobbitses said. 

Children need to be protected from their own gender identities but guns are fine. Got it. 

The glaring hypocrisy of not once mentioning the Palestinian children killed the other day, and yet claiming he’s got to “protect” children. No matter your politics, it shouldn’t be difficult to say that that massacre of unarmed protesters should never have happened and we, all of us, need to find a way to do better. I’ve seen plenty of people condemning it without condemning Israel as a whole. It isn’t that hard.

And like, what about the children who are born intersex. There are hundreds born intersex every year! Is it genital mutilation to help them? And what if they don’t want to choose a binary, but would rather remain genderfluid? What then? Should they be forced into an assigned gender role that they may always feel imprisoned by? And then do you force gender confirmation surgery on them? Talk about unethical.

But who cares, right? They’re different from Derick so they’re worthless. Everyone just needs to be more like Mr. and Mrs. Jill Duggar and we’d all be happier. Just look at their social media! Don’t they seem happy!? 

God, he needs to get a damn job already. He clearly has way too much free time to respond to internet comments. Go help raise your spawn if you have nothing better to do, you lazy shit! 

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See children. This is what happens when you don't stay in school, Jill DD, or have a job, Jill and Dereck DD.

Lack of education and having too much time on one's hands only leads to no good.

Hope they don't make me bring out the 2 fried eggs and the drug lecture.

 

 

Luv,

Grammy AKA SP

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Let me get this straight, Derick:

- You oppose stricter gun regulations, which could save the lives of countless children who die of gun violence every year (be it from school shootings, gang violence, or accidents because guns weren't properly locked in their home)

- You support the president who just brought the world the slaughtering of dozens and injuring of over 1000 Palestinians, including children, in Gaza

- You support and encourage the Trump administrations inhumane treatment of undocumented immigrants, which includes separating parents from their young children, locking parents in ICE facilities and placing kids in foster care against their parents will

- You personally saw the violence some of these undocumented immigrants are fleeing from, and claim to have been friends with someone who was murdered as a result, and yet you support building a wall to make sure these desparate people (and their children) in search of safety cannot come to America

... and you claim to want to protect children. Sure, Jan.

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57 minutes ago, Hashtag Blessed said:

And like, what about the children who are born intersex. There are hundreds born intersex every year! Is it genital mutilation to help them? And what if they don’t want to choose a binary, but would rather remain genderfluid? What then? Should they be forced into an assigned gender role that they may always feel imprisoned by? And then do you force gender confirmation surgery on them? Talk about unethical.

Thank you for bringing up intersex folks! There are also the guevedoces, a group of folks in the Dominican Republic who begin life looking like girls, but grow penises around 12: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34290981

Anyone else remember that South Carolina kid whose adopted family was suing the state because he'd been born intersex and the medical team took it upon themselves to "fix" him? Apparently the family won a large settlement, and hopefully this will deter adults from making these major medical decisions before the kids can tell them who they are. Here's a bit of info: https://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/intersex-surgery-lawsuit-settles?utm_term=.hcevGkOgr#.pgEOQ5rlx

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10 minutes ago, apandaaries said:

Thank you for bringing up intersex folks! There are also the guevedoces, a group of folks in the Dominican Republic who begin life looking like girls, but grow penises around 12: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34290981

Anyone else remember that South Carolina kid whose adopted family was suing the state because he'd been born intersex and the medical team took it upon themselves to "fix" him? Apparently the family won a large settlement, and hopefully this will deter adults from making these major medical decisions before the kids can tell them who they are. Here's a bit of info: https://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/intersex-surgery-lawsuit-settles?utm_term=.hcevGkOgr#.pgEOQ5rlx

i am over 50 years old and my mother is Dominican. I spent every summer on vacation there as well as many Christmas holidays.... I never heard of this town and these kids! Wow

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Being concerned about someone's mental health is not making excuses for them. It's saying, hey something is not right here. Maybe someone should flag this NOW before something major happens.

Usually people care about a person"s mental health AFTER they've done something dangerous or harmful to others when signs were there all along. A person can be a jerk and not have mental health issues. But a heinous jerk. Naw something is going on. That's my opinion. And more and more research shows people on PD spectrum have mental health issues.   

Healthy people rarely act out on a long term continuous basis. 

 

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25 minutes ago, apandaaries said:

Thank you for bringing up intersex folks! There are also the guevedoces, a group of folks in the Dominican Republic who begin life looking like girls, but grow penises around 12: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34290981

Anyone else remember that South Carolina kid whose adopted family was suing the state because he'd been born intersex and the medical team took it upon themselves to "fix" him? Apparently the family won a large settlement, and hopefully this will deter adults from making these major medical decisions before the kids can tell them who they are. Here's a bit of info: https://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/intersex-surgery-lawsuit-settles?utm_term=.hcevGkOgr#.pgEOQ5rlx

I'd love to know how Derick would explain intersex people. Did God make a mistake? What would Derick do if one of his own children were born intersex? It's much more common than most people think. Would he have surgery performed on an infant to assign their sex - but then what if they made a mistake? Derick would be no better than those evil, evil people he hates who are 'mutilating' children! Would he allow the child to grow up and figure their sex/gender out along the way? But then what rigid gender norms would he enforce on them during their childhood?! 

I bet he just thinks that nothing like that would ever happen to him, because deep down he believes that intersex people don't really exist, or that they're like that because their parents sinned, or some other complete bullshit.

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I’ve watched all of “Jazz” on TLC and I don’t remember an emphasis on being 18. The surgery should be this summer, she will be a senior in high school next year. She has had many consultations on the surgery. She identified as transgender very very young and there is a video of her as a young child expressing this. 

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7 hours ago, Marly said:

I really wonder where people like Derrick ever got the idea from that gender reassignment surgery is performed on kids.
 

Probably from the same source that tells him that late term abortions are being performed 24/7 all over the country. It seems rich of Derick to accuse parents of transgender kids of “pushing” them into a life alternating situation when he and Jill are no doubt pressuring Izzy to “get saved ASAP.

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2 hours ago, SassyPants said:

See children. This is what happens when you don't stay in school, Jill DD, or have a job, Jill and Dereck DD.

Lack of education and having too much time on one's hands only leads to no good.

Hope they don't make me bring out the 2 fried eggs and the drug lecture.

 

 

Luv,

Grammy AKA SP

My lovely Lancashire Nana always used to say that idle hands make work for the Devil.

I am hazarding a HUGE guess that the Devil has well and truly spotted Dwrecks idle paws. 

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Derick shows his ass daily doesn't he?

Well if you're reading here you racist, bigoted, lazy, piece of trash; let me tell you about the world. The world doesn't care about you, the world doesn't owe you anything because you are white, heterosexual, and Christian. You're butt hurt over TLC kicking you off? Too damn bad! Jazz is a wonderful young woman who is trying to make the world a better place for transgender teens. Nate and Jeremiah are wonderful parents who have jobs and who are raising two beautiful, happy, healthy children. They are not hurting you! The world has moved on, we are trying to be a more loving and accepting place! None of us are perfect but we try not to offend people! Try it! 

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I'm having the week of insomnia from hell, so I started watching the last season of Counting On even though I said I wouldn't (I know, biggest hypocrite ever(tm)) because I wanted something mindless. Well, it's even more mindless than I ever could have dreamed. But I just needed to share this with you all:

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Also, it's Jill's birthday today. Happy Birthday, Jill! How much does everyone want to bet that Jill's birthday will be all about Mr. Jill and how amaaaaaazing he is for lighting a cheap candle and buying her a MAGA hat? #bEsThUbByEvEr!!!!11

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2 minutes ago, singsingsing said:

I'm having the week of insomnia from hell, so I started watching the last season of Counting On even though I said I wouldn't (I know, biggest hypocrite ever(tm)) because I wanted something mindless. Well, it's even more mindless than I ever could have dreamed. But I just needed to share this with you all:

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Also, it's Jill's birthday today. Happy Birthday, Jill! How much does everyone want to bet that Jill's birthday will be all about Mr. Jill and how amaaaaaazing he is for lighting a cheap candle and buying her a MAGA hat? #bEsThUbByEvEr!!!!11

Wow, that might even top Derick's super-romantic purchase of a bottle of milk.  /end sarcasm

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15 minutes ago, singsingsing said:

I'm having the week of insomnia from hell, so I started watching the last season of Counting On even though I said I wouldn't (I know, biggest hypocrite ever(tm)) because I wanted something mindless. Well, it's even more mindless than I ever could have dreamed. But I just needed to share this with you all:

jillmarried.thumb.png.bbf8e79d8c47ee6c73622d57b5c1a01d.png

Also, it's Jill's birthday today. Happy Birthday, Jill! How much does everyone want to bet that Jill's birthday will be all about Mr. Jill and how amaaaaaazing he is for lighting a cheap candle and buying her a MAGA hat? #bEsThUbByEvEr!!!!11

But will there be a grainy photo with his um little Derick on the table? 

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