Counting on- Part 7: Counting on Cancellation

[twinmama]

1 minute ago, BabyBottlePop said:

I've had Facebook friends post photos of their children potty training, sometimes with bars over certain spots and sometimes without anything. Often such a post is followed by an angry post by the Facebook friend wanting to know who reported their photo. 

Do people realize one day their kids will grow up and see they've been put on Facebook for everyone to see? My baby book has many photos of me naked in a bathtub but my mom didn't (albeit, she couldn't) post them and glad no such thing existed when I was a baby/toddler.

I totally understand how big something like potty training is to a parent. My kids were FOUR when they trained, so I was beyond glad they finally did it and proud and blah blah. NO ONE wants to see that business on Facebook though. I post plenty of photos of my kids to my locked down as much as I can FB page, but they are never naked pics! I think I had one of the two of them in just diapers when they were little babies but that was the only one I ever did and I regretted it.

[scribble]

49 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

Jessa - when he was born we were sure of the first name but not the middle. We thought about michael but it "didnt flow."  Three days later we thought about eliott.  We practiced calling him by the name and when we were sure we announced it.

 

Wait... isn't this the opposite of what they've said before? (I know, Duggars couldn't possibly rewrite history.... )

I thought she announced they had a middle name but were still considering a first a few days after he was born -- either on Twitter or in a People article or something.

I remember thinking that I thought it was strange they had the middle name first.

 

[Cleopatra7]

8 minutes ago, BabyBottlePop said:

I've had Facebook friends post photos of their children potty training, sometimes with bars over certain spots and sometimes without anything. Often such a post is followed by an angry post by the Facebook friend wanting to know who reported their photo. 

Do people realize one day their kids will grow up and see they've been put on Facebook for everyone to see? My baby book has many photos of me naked in a bathtub but my mom didn't (albeit, she couldn't) post them and glad no such thing existed when I was a baby/toddler.

A couple of years ago, there was an article in the NYT on baby potty training, and there were some photos of infants lying on chamber pot type things and one of a slightly older baby being held over a sink naked from the waist down, and all I could think of was, "Did no one stop to think that these babies are going to get older and be mortified that these incredibly embarrassing pictures are immortalized forever in the Grey Lady?"

[bella8050]

1 minute ago, twinmama said:

I totally understand how big something like potty training is to a parent. My kids were FOUR when they trained, so I was beyond glad they finally did it and proud and blah blah. NO ONE wants to see that business on Facebook though. I post plenty of photos of my kids to my locked down as much as I can FB page, but they are never naked pics! I think I had one of the two of them in just diapers when they were little babies but that was the only one I ever did and I regretted it.

A had a friend post a picture of her 3 year old daughter who was wearing just a skirt, and my friend's high heels, captioned with "this is how she wanted to go to school today". I was really shocked she posted it and part of me wanted to say something about maybe rethinking sharing that with her 800+ friends. It still makes me cringe to think about it. Completely innocent picture of course...for the private family photo album.

 

[MyMilkshake]

2 minutes ago, Cleopatra7 said:

A couple of years ago, there was an article in the NYT on baby potty training, and there were some photos of infants lying on chamber pot type things and one of a slightly older baby being held over a sink naked from the waist down, and all I could think of was, "Did no one stop to think that these babies are going to get older and be mortified that these incredibly embarrassing pictures are immortalized forever in the Grey Lady?"

I don't understand the weird need some parents have to steal their children's dignity. 

[MarblesMom]

4 minutes ago, Cleopatra7 said:

these incredibly embarrassing pictures are immortalized forever in the Grey Lady?"

Could be that by the time they do a search, FB has gone with way of MySpace, or the Atari, and it isn't a big deal.  We can hope 

[SassyPants]

1 hour ago, Yaoichan12 said:

I don't see seatbelts in the backseat. I hope Elliot is locked in and not bouncing around in his car seat 

There is probably no car seat mandate in that country.

Some countries in LA have no mandate for seat belts beyond the front seat, and no car seat requirements.

[BabyBottlePop]

2 minutes ago, MarblesMom said:

Could be that by the time they do a search, FB has gone with way of MySpace, or the Atari, and it isn't a big deal.  We can hope 

I feel like there's a good potential for bullying if someone can get ahold of your photo. Even if it's a baby photo or childhood one. 

I have the feeling even if Facebook goes away, our posts and pictures won't. They'll just move to another channel. My friend's old myspace got her in trouble at work cause her students found old photos of her drinking. 

Years from now, there'll be a huge scandal about racist things a presidential candidate posted on his/her Facebook when they were 13. I'm sure of it. 

[SassyPants]

54 minutes ago, Mercer said:

For heaven's sake, Jessa. Children are human beings, not Pokemon or commemorative spoons. The point is not just to acquire as many as possible within the shortest possible time frame. If you're really serious about adoption, you can't let your adopted baby have some time to settle in and adjust before you pump out another bio kid? This is serious. This is not a game. You are responsible for your children's emotional well-being.

She sounds like a child fantasizing about playing house.

She learned from the EFFING best-

No time for books or schooling and too much time spent on tracking mama's cycles and adding more babeez.

[Cleopatra7]

9 minutes ago, MarblesMom said:

Could be that by the time they do a search, FB has gone with way of MySpace, or the Atari, and it isn't a big deal.  We can hope 

Unless the NYT building burns down, I have a feeling that their archives will be around for quite awhile. The archives of many defunct papers are available on a variety of digital platforms as well.

[Jucifer]

1 hour ago, scribble said:

Wait... isn't this the opposite of what they've said before? (I know, Duggars couldn't possibly rewrite history.... )

I thought she announced they had a middle name but were still considering a first a few days after he was born -- either on Twitter or in a People article or something.

I remember thinking that I thought it was strange they had the middle name first.

 

I remember that too. 

IIRC, the Elliot in Spurge's name was taken from a famous missionary couple's last name. Their story is really pointless, idiotic and nauseating and I would hate to name any kid of mine after those two.  

[notsofundie]

6 minutes ago, Jucifer said:

I remember that too. 

IIRC, the Elliot in Spurge's name was taken from a famous missionary couple's last name. Their story is really pointless, idiotic and nauseating and I would hate to name any kid of mine after that couple.

Off topic but Jucifer... Can I assume the name is not a reference to the band Jucifer?

[Jucifer]

1 minute ago, notsofundie said:

Off topic but Jucifer... Can I assume the name is not a reference to the band Jucifer?

Heehee, I have seen them live more than once.

[notsofundie]

Hilarious... I used to work for the record label they used to be on (no idea of current status) and the name ALWAYS reminded me of the Duggar-idiots

[somanybooks]

2 hours ago, Hiddenomaha said:

Does where the outdoor porch TH look familiar to anyone? Doesn't look like TTH, and I don't know what the pool house outside looks like

I think it's an outdoor area at the main SOS compound in El Salvador.  There were pics from previous trips of longs tables set up out there for big group meals.

[SportsgalAnnie]

2 hours ago, Hiddenomaha said:

That POS is not a cowboy hat. Its not even a decent fake cowboy hat.

This is a cowboy hat: Note that there is no price tag still attached.

hah, You'd get laughed off the streets of Nashville if you wore that 

1 minute ago, SportsgalAnnie said:

hah, You'd get laughed off the streets of Nashville if you wore that 

bins

[justmy2cents]

1 hour ago, scribble said:

Wait... isn't this the opposite of what they've said before? (I know, Duggars couldn't possibly rewrite history.... )

I thought she announced they had a middle name but were still considering a first a few days after he was born -- either on Twitter or in a People article or something.

I remember thinking that I thought it was strange they had the middle name first.

 

They had the first name and were considering the middle name.  I remember when we found out the full name we were incredulous that they agreed on Spurgeon so quickly but Elliott, a completely normal name, was the holdup.

[TuringMachine]

2 hours ago, scribble said:

Wait... isn't this the opposite of what they've said before? (I know, Duggars couldn't possibly rewrite history.... )

I thought she announced they had a middle name but were still considering a first a few days after he was born -- either on Twitter or in a People article or something.

I remember thinking that I thought it was strange they had the middle name first.

 

No they definitely said they were trying to decide on a middle name. Here's her first instagram post about baby Seewald:

 

[sndral]

Most boring mish mash of rehash e.v.e.r.

Jessa in what little new material there was, kept repeating how Jill had never met Spurgeon and how special it was going to be for the Dillards to meet Spugeon. Not once did Jessa mention looking forward to seeing Izzy, all she talked about was the Dillards first meeting with her speeshul snowflake -  Spurgeon.

 

[amendgitan]

4 hours ago, bella8050 said:

 I had a friend post a picture of her 3 year old daughter who was wearing just a skirt, and my friend's high heels, captioned with "this is how she wanted to go to school today". I was really shocked she posted it and part of me wanted to say something about maybe rethinking sharing that with her 800+ friends. It still makes me cringe to think about it. Completely innocent picture of course...for the private family photo album.

 

 

4 hours ago, Cleopatra7 said:

A couple of years ago, there was an have om the we have a bit of a different attitude. Perhaps vergdifferent aist down, and all I could think of was, "Did no one stop to think that these babies are going to get older and be mortified that these incredibly embarrassing pictures are immortalized forever in the Grey Lady?"

I have a different feeling. I guess it's because my parents are European. (Southern and northern). Over there, (in general), kids are publicly naked a lot and no one bats an eye. Human nakedness is not considered "embarrassing" or "shameful".  Potty training is not either. 

Breast feeding over there is not only considered totally natural, it's also totally public. No bathroom feedings, no hiding babies under blankets. None of that. They totally whip it right out. 

Being raised in the US I have the benefit of both perspectives. I was so fascinated with trying to understand the culture I was born into but not raised in that I became an American studies major as a result. 

Ive learned that we have a major Puritan streak that has influenced how we, as a society, view the body and children and sexuality in general. Our overall rigidity and discomfort with sex and the body has led to a dichotomous obsession with sex. 

I see absolutely nothing but innocence and beauty in a kid's nakedness. I can't imagine how such images could ever be shameful. 

As far as weirdos getting off on images of my kid, they get off on seeing kids in a bathing suit or their underwear or even totally, fully clothed. 

True, I wouldn't post such images in any public forum but that would mostly be out of fear someone would report me for child porn as ridiculous as that would be. 

This whole topic makes me think of the southern photographer  Sally Mann and the controversy surrounding her work. 

[TShirtsLongSkirts]

4 hours ago, TuringMachine said:

No they definitely said they were trying to decide on a middle name. Here's her first instagram post about baby Seewald:

 

Huh. Why would they lie about that when it's so easily verified? Makes me think Jessa really didn't like the name Spurgeon, but now it's settled she's determined to make everyone think she was sure about it from the start.

BTW, I vote TLC cancels Boring On and instead gives a show to @CreationMuseumSeasonPass 's parents.

[Ungodly Grandma]

8 hours ago, twinmama said:

Their holy message is don't fuck until after the wedding right? I don't see how kissing takes away from that. 

Apparently kissing is a gateway drug.

8 hours ago, nst said:

well we need to be reminded about the courtships, the wedding, Josh, the non reasons for the nixing of the kiss, and the torture they liked to not to tell us about the baby 

endlessly 

well, they don't want to let too much out, their true religious beliefs, child rearing techniques, anti molestation techniques, 

educational system, now that they don't "buy used and save the difference" there's not much else they can show.

[Ungodly Grandma]

8 hours ago, Mercer said:

For heaven's sake, Jessa. Children are human beings, not Pokemon or commemorative spoons. The point is not just to acquire as many as possible within the shortest possible time frame. If you're really serious about adoption, you can't let your adopted baby have some time to settle in and adjust before you pump out another bio kid? This is serious. This is not a game. You are responsible for your children's emotional well-being.

She sounds like a child fantasizing about playing house.

Jessa was not raised to consider the needs of children.

8 hours ago, EyeQueue said:

Bin worried about "germs" because brown people countries have more germs. Is this the implication?

Maybe he thinks their skin is brown b/c they don't wash. God these people.

[Justme]

I've tried to watch this show for the past few weeks. I can't stand more than 5 minutes here and there before I have to turn it off. It's the same thing over and over. How many times can you ask the unmarried adults about future spouses??? Also, the production budget is extremely low. The quality almost seems like someone is filming on their iphones....

Ben still act's like he is playing with his sisters Baby Alive (remember those?!?) doll. And, please give them hairbrushes.

[Ungodly Grandma]

7 hours ago, scribble said:

Wait... isn't this the opposite of what they've said before? (I know, Duggars couldn't possibly rewrite history.... )

I thought she announced they had a middle name but were still considering a first a few days after he was born -- either on Twitter or in a People article or something.

I remember thinking that I thought it was strange they had the middle name first.

 

Remember when Bin's sister announced on FB that the baby was here, and she gave a name, not Spurgeon, something normal. I still think that Bin and Jessa decided to change the name at that point, to steal back some thunder.