Pastor’s Pregnant Wife Killed in Home Invasion (Indianapolis)

[formergothardite]

The butter remark is a reference to its use during anal sex in the movie, Last Tango in Paris. 

I see. I have never seen that movie. 

I wouldn't be surprised if he had ways around his porn blocker, even if he claims he doesn't. 

[Beb]

I see. I have never seen that movie. 

I wouldn't be surprised if he had ways around his porn blocker, even if he claims he doesn't. 

I've never seen it, either. 

He made a big deal about his porn blocker and report of his web activity......presumably, to illustrate how he was serious about being "pure."

[Howl]

The butter remark is a reference to its use during anal sex in the movie, Last Tango in Paris. 

I saw Last Tango originally, so yeah, butter --  but(t), I didn't make the connection.  ETA that this was so profoundly disrespectful to his wife as she sits beside him on stage. That right there is Mark Driscoll level obnoxious. 

Re: the porn thing 

He gets his manly guy cred from the implication that he's watched porn in past, but his purity cred from a porn blocker, so both boxes checked there. 

[SilverBeach]

I cannot imagine living in a big city.  It's bad enough that my brother has to remind me to lock our car when it is in their driveway overnight.  Also that I cannot take the dog out first thing in the morning in my underwear.

I live in a small town in NH.  Some residents lock their doors, but they are usually from "away".  We live so far off the road you can't see our house, but everyone on our road keeps an eye on other people's properties.  It's pretty easy to notice a vehicle that doesn't belong.

 

I have been sucked into the abyss that is the statement analysis site as well.  I am glad that others just get a funky feeling about the Pastor too.  I hope the LE folks in his area are thorough.

I live in a leafy village about 35 miles outside of Chicago. It is lovely here, I could never live in the city proper again.  I have left the garage door up all night, and the keys in the door (accidentally), and nothing has happened yet. I don't want to tempt fate though, so I try to keep these lapses to a minimum. They usually happen when I arrive home bone-tired.

I like your term "funky feeling", that's what I have too.

If he spanks a 1-year-old, he's more than emotionally abusive. It's physical abuse to hit a baby, so if he hits the baby, he is probably going to hit his wife. 

The videos I watched show him to be fixated upon sex and speaks about it and his views as if he's relating to his audience and being a common Joe. 

His demeanor is very similar to Scott Peterson's in that he is very concerned with himself.  Peterson was more blatant, but there is a very similar detachment regarding his wife,  the unborn baby, and his toddler son.  

He and his ego are unlikeable, but that doesn't mean he's a murderer. 

Doesn't mean he can't be a murderer too.

[Beb]

I live in a leafy village about 35 miles outside of Chicago. It is lovely here, I could never live in the city proper again.  I have left the garage door up all night, and the keys in the door (accidentally), and nothing has happened yet. I don't want to tempt fate though, so I try to keep these lapses to a minimum. They usually happen when I arrive home bone-tired.

I like your term "funky feeling", that's what I have too.

Doesn't mean he can't be a murderer too.

Well, of course, as of now, he is not considered one. 

[SilverBeach]

Well, of course, as of now, he is not considered one. 

Only time will tell.

[Beb]

Only time will tell.

Yes, and often, many months will have elapsed before a person is arrested, as in the case of Pastor Richard Shahan. 

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/05/homewood_pastors_wife_cited_hu.html

[dpndetfarm]

Yes, and often, many months will have elapsed before a person is arrested, as in the case of Pastor Richard Shahan. 

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/05/homewood_pastors_wife_cited_hu.html

Beb, are you a websleuths reader/member too?  I spent many hours reading everything they had on the Shahan case. 

[nokidsmom]

I live in a leafy village about 35 miles outside of Chicago. It is lovely here, I could never live in the city proper again.  I have left the garage door up all night, and the keys in the door (accidentally), and nothing has happened yet. I don't want to tempt fate though, so I try to keep these lapses to a minimum. They usually happen when I arrive home bone-tired.

Grew up n Chicago but currently live in far north suburb overlooking a forest preserve.  I would never live in the city again either as much as the family members who still live there, wish I would come to my senses and move out of those suburbs.    It was then and is now absolutely necessary to keep doors locked.   If you left a door unlocked and got burglarized, don't expect much sympathy from law enforcement.   One time, during college, I stayed with in a  college classmate's home who was in a rural area.  Her family kept the doors unlocked.  I could not sleep in that house knowing that the doors were unlocked.  They were baffled over my shock that they didn't lock the doors.   

Accidentally left a door unlocked a few months ago overnight and was lucky that nothing happened.   My neighbors have left their garage doors up overnight a few times but so far nothing has happened.   But I consider it luck that nothing happened, not that it's generally safe to do so. 

[Beb]

Beb, are you a websleuths reader/member too?  I spent many hours reading everything they had on the Shahan case. 

ha

Well, I never was before, but I've been on vacation all week, and I began to read a little of that since I had the time, then, I became fascinated.....as much by reader comments as anything else. 

It's pretty engrossing  

 

[Tdoc72]

So what does he mean when he says that  they could bring butter into if she wants when talking about sex? She looked embarrassed and then he smirked and said it went way over her head. It has gone over my head too and my Google is so pure that when I google the phrase I just get info about how to bring butter to room temperature or how to bring butter from another country to America. 

He sounds like a typical, cool and edgy for Jesus asshole pastor. 

In olden times, prostitutes used to use butter as lube.  They would keep a bowl of butter on their nightstands.  

[DomWackTroll]

Oy... Isn't there anyone telling him to just STFU? 

[VVV]

Interesting commentary by one of my favorite bloggers.

http://www.eyesforlies.com/blog/2015/11/david-and-amanda-blackburn/

[hoipolloi]

Interesting commentary by one of my favorite bloggers.

http://www.eyesforlies.com/blog/2015/11/david-and-amanda-blackburn/

Thank you for this link. 

In all the articles on this case that I've seen, I somehow missed mention of the 70-minute phone conversation Davey Blackburn had, including sitting in his driveway, before he discovered Amanda.

WTF?

 

George • 14 hours ago

Curious what (if anything) you make of the police affidavit saying Davey
Blackburn was on his cell for about 70 minutes before finding his wife:

6:00 AM: Davey Blackburn leaves home for the gym

6:40 AM to 6:45 AM (about): Blackburn neighbor hears scream
and gunshot

7:10 AM defendant’s cell phone leaves the area of the
Blackburn home

7:10 AM: Davey Blackburn leaves the gym for home

7:10 AM (about): driving home, Davey Blackburn begins cell phone conversation with his friend, Kenneth Wagner

7:30 AM: Davey Blackburn arrives home; sits in his car in
the driveway talking to Kenneth Wagner until 8:20 AM

8:20 AM: Davey Blackburn enters his home and discovers his
wife mortally wounded

 

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  SokaGirlMaria  George • 3 hours ago

  Wagner posts about their conversation on Twitter.

  Blackburn leaves at 6:10 AM for the gym -- when he customarily leaves at 5:30 AM.

   

[polecat]

 

 

Oh yes indeed. It was interesting, too, that he didn't get finished with that phone call until his neighbor, whose house was also robbed, just so happened to be pulling into their driveway. 

 

eta: Was responding to this but effed up the quote function. 

 

"Thank you for this link. 

In all the articles on this case that I've seen, I somehow missed mention of the 70-minute phone conversation Davey Blackburn had, including sitting in his driveway, before he discovered Amanda.

WTF?"

 

 

[sawasdee]

Oh yes indeed. It was interesting, too, that he didn't get finished with that phone call until his neighbor, whose house was also robbed, just so happened to be pulling into their driveway. 

 

Now that is a strange concatenation of events!

[formergothardite]

So on the day his wife got murdered, he left later then usual to go to the gym, left the door unlocked, came home and sat in the car on his phone for 70 minutes and then got out right when a neighbor was pulling in? This is one strange situation. 

[FakePigtails]

I've been staying out of this because there's too little proof to me of the husband being guilty, despite his odd behavior. Some people just react differently. There really are explanations, including for the long conversation - who hasn't gotten caught up with a good call? However, the time in the car caught my eye since at that time of year and that early in the day it's rarely warm in the Midwest and sure enough, according to Wolfram Alpha it was at most about 40 degrees at the time he was sitting there on the phone. That's an awfully long time to run the engine and at least in the cars I've driven (read: older), cold seeps in pretty fast if they're not running.

I don't want to rain more hurt on someone grieving, but that's a lot of coincidences.

[blessalessi]

The biggest puzzle to me is why the police so quickly made a statement of his innocence.  Is this a normal occurrence in his State?  

He seems to have a lot of people around defending him when I would have thought silence might be a more prudent way forward.

 

 

[SnazzyNazzy]

I have SOOO much too say, but don't want to sound like a racist/classist asshole. It's just the dynamics of Indy, the Indy metro area, and the Indy suburbs. I'm 39yo, and have lived here 34 of those said years. It's a shame, that I can't say what I want to, because of the fear of offending someone. There are a lot of dynamics at play, be it race, or socio-economic, that someone, would clutch their pearls, and would get all offended.

It's like shit NEEDS to be said, but people are so afraid of offending someone, that the shit that needs to be said, is never actually said. Things need to be fixed, the world over, but people are so damned afraid or whatever, to offend the other party, that shit is never said. You can't say X because it's "racist", you can't say Y because it's "classist", you can't say Z because it offends the other gender. Important things aren't being said, that REALLY need to be said, because everyone is afraid of

[SilverBeach]

First I've heard of the 70 minute call...this was a mighty neat burglar, Davey didn't notice anything amiss so he just blabbed on an on?

I have SOOO much too say, but don't want to sound like a racist/classist asshole. It's just the dynamics of Indy, the Indy metro area, and the Indy suburbs. I'm 39yo, and have lived here 34 of those said years. It's a shame, that I can't say what I want to, because of the fear of offending someone. There are a lot of dynamics at play, be it race, or socio-economic, that someone, would clutch their pearls, and would get all offended.

It's like shit NEEDS to be said, but people are so afraid of offending someone, that the shit that needs to be said, is never actually said. Things need to be fixed, the world over, but people are so damned afraid or whatever, to offend the other party, that shit is never said. You can't say X because it's "racist", you can't say Y because it's "classist", you can't say Z because it offends the other gender. Important things aren't being said, that REALLY need to be said, because everyone is afraid of

Post over in the "No Holds Barred" thread. It might be interesting.

[FaithAndReason]

I still think Davey's involved somehow. That 70 minute phone call is convenient to make sure his whereabouts are accounted for. It almost seems like he's trying too hard to make sure someone knew where he was all morning.

[SnazzyNazzy]

I still think Davey's involved somehow. That 70 minute phone call is convenient to make sure his whereabouts are accounted for. It almost seems like he's trying too hard to make sure someone knew where he was all morning.

Based on what I have read, he doesn't seem involved.

Based on what I have seen, it pains me to say, that it might be a "god works in mysterious ways" moment" for him.

I don't care if he is a preacher and deals with public speaking on the regular. I don't care if he has an odd way about dealing with death. He just seems so minimally affected, by the whole thing. There is like zero grief like emotions, coming off of him.

My personal theory, is that he was borking some church member, and this "absolved" him, in some way.

[polecat]

Based on what I have read, he doesn't seem involved.

Based on what I have seen, it pains me to say, that it might be a "god works in mysterious ways" moment" for him.

I don't care if he is a preacher and deals with public speaking on the regular. I don't care if he has an odd way about dealing with death. He just seems so minimally affected, by the whole thing. There is like zero grief like emotions, coming off of him.

My personal theory, is that he was borking some church member, and this "absolved" him, in some way.

My gut tells me he was involved. But I keep reminding myself of Gary Condit. I think God and everybody thought that man was guilty as sin, and he wasn't. Still, there are so darn many "coincidences" in Amanda's case that it's darned hard to swallow the idea of them all truly being coincidences.  But I think you're right about the affair -- I've noticed that fundy pastors screech the loudest about the sins they themselves have. And in Davey's case, he sure liked blabbing about sex ... 

[turquoise]

Sitting in the car outside his own house, in cold weather, for a 70 minute phone call, is strange to me. If I did that, I'd expect my husband to come outside at some point to see what was going on.

If he did in fact hire someone to kill his wife, I think that at some point the killer or someone connected to him will talk. For his son's sake, I hope he was not involved.