Pastor’s Pregnant Wife Killed in Home Invasion (Indianapolis)

[SilverBeach]

It's interesting to hear different perspectives!  Since the 80s, I have lived in major cities in the USA (three state capitals, actually).  I have lived in some well-to-do areas and in some pretty sketchy areas.  Never felt the urge to lock the doors when home.  I guess some would say that is a most unwise choice - others might think it means I am capable of murder.  I'm gonna have to take a poll of my fellow Bostonians and see what's what LOL.  I totally agree that you often need to be more careful about things like burglary and home invasion in nicer areas, ironically.

You are a lot braver than me! Or maybe you have a pistol or something, LOL. Many burglars look for unlocked doors and will pass on a home sometimes just because there is no easy access.

[PennySycamore]

Lots of conjecturing out there. 

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/11/q-the-murder-of-amanda-blackburn.html?m=1

OMG!  I was reading through the comments on that article and saw that it mentioned Amanda's survivors. I think that my mom used to work with her grandfather at the post office.  They were both letter carriers back in the 70s.  I do know that her granddad had an unusual first name, that his friends and colleagues always called him Buddy and that he was married to Mildred.

[dpndetfarm]

In a major city like Indianapolis, leaving you door unlocked would be most unwise. I live in a very safe suburb and always lock my doors when home, but I was born and raised in Chicago, so I'm a tad paranoid.  Burglars target more affluent areas because that's where the good stuff is. I heard that Canadians do not lock their doors.

Must say I,too,grew up with unlocked doors whether we were sleeping or not, home or not.  Lived in our present home for 25 years and nothing has changed.  Not sure we even have keys.  We joke that the only difference locking the place up will make is that in addition to replacing the crap anyone steals we will also have to repair a broken door or window.  My brother moved to Long Island about 26 years ago and when he and his wife visit they get out of their car and immediately lock it.  I tell them the deer haven't learned to drive yet.

 

As far as creepy husband goes, I usually think the worst and hope to be proven wrong.  However, in my limited experience the first instinctive suspicion often turns out to be well founded.  For their son's sake I hope my instincts are full of shit.

[Firiel]

Okay, guys, I'm back with the second part of the video I posted earlier.  This one is not nearly so informative of the pastor's shitty views and kind of (to me) slipped into "WTF" mode.  My favorite part was the warning to "those who disturb easily" when Davey Boy shot someone with an airsoft pistol as a sermon illustration.  Dumb as fuck? Yes.  Revealing the weird obsession that Christians of his age had with airsoft pistols in high school/college?  Yes. But evidence that he murdered his wife with a real-life pistol a few days later?  Ummmmmm... not really.

[DomWackTroll]

Love of guns? Check. Porn blockers? Check. Complaints about the ol' ball and chain? Check. Foul-mouthed "humor" in sermons? Check. I mean, this is just par for the course for a young, allegedly-hip pastor. Heck, forget young-- John Piper has said worse stuff, as far as sexism. I could put scary, ominous music behind one of Piper's interviews, or Driscoll's sermons, or a million other guys' statements and get the same effect. 

Do I have nagging questions about this case? Yes, but not because of Davey's lifestyle, which is common in that world. I think I'll leave it at that for now.

[hoipolloi]

Yes, Davey's lifestyle & behavior as a "pastor" are depressingly familiar. So is the bogus credentialing as a pastor which seems to have consisted of kissing the ass of "training" under a similarly uncredentialed (or maybe under-credentialed) calvinista "pastor" back in SC.

Davey spent 4 years on staff at NewSpring Church in Anderson, SC under Pastor Perry Noble. NewSpring now sees over 30,000 people attend church each week. Davey served as a Youth Pastor, Production Director, and Associate Campus Pastor before NewSpring helped Resonate plant in 2012.

Davey Blackburn is a clone of his former colleagues at New Spring and New Spring's campus pastors, all of them young white males with little or no apparent formal training in the ministry apart from serving their time in New Spring or similar calvinista milieux. 

[2xx1xy1JD]

In a major city like Indianapolis, leaving you door unlocked would be most unwise. I live in a very safe suburb and always lock my doors when home, but I was born and raised in Chicago, so I'm a tad paranoid.  Burglars target more affluent areas because that's where the good stuff is. I heard that Canadians do not lock their doors.

Michael Moore put that in Bowling for Columbine....but he overstated the case.  I may not immediately run and lock the door instantly, but we certainly do lock doors in Canada.  The only unlocked doors I remember were at my grandmother's summer community (aka commune), in a quiet, rural area where kids were always running in and out of the group of summer homes, and the owners had all been friends for decades.

[sawasdee]

Michael Moore put that in Bowling for Columbine....but he overstated the case.  I may not immediately run and lock the door instantly, but we certainly do lock doors in Canada.  The only unlocked doors I remember were at my grandmother's summer community (aka commune), in a quiet, rural area where kids were always running in and out of the group of summer homes, and the owners had all been friends for decades.

I remember 30 or more years ago in rural Ireland, doors not just being unlocked, but the key left in the lock! I particularly remember this in Mallow, Co.Cork, when I was a tour guide on my way to Blarney, as we used to point out the keys. Most of my American tourists' reaction was a variation of WTF? One told me that where they lived that would mean not only would the house be robbed, but the door would probably be missing too.

[SilverBeach]

Must say I,too,grew up with unlocked doors whether we were sleeping or not, home or not.  Lived in our present home for 25 years and nothing has changed.  Not sure we even have keys.  We joke that the only difference locking the place up will make is that in addition to replacing the crap anyone steals we will also have to repair a broken door or window.  My brother moved to Long Island about 26 years ago and when he and his wife visit they get out of their car and immediately lock it.  I tell them the deer haven't learned to drive yet.

 

As far as creepy husband goes, I usually think the worst and hope to be proven wrong.  However, in my limited experience the first instinctive suspicion often turns out to be well founded.  For their son's sake I hope my instincts are full of shit.

May I ask where you live? The only time I don't lock my car is when it is in the garage. Not locking cars and homes would make you a certain victim in Metro Chicago.

Michael Moore put that in Bowling for Columbine....but he overstated the case.  I may not immediately run and lock the door instantly, but we certainly do lock doors in Canada.  The only unlocked doors I remember were at my grandmother's summer community (aka commune), in a quiet, rural area where kids were always running in and out of the group of summer homes, and the owners had all been friends for decades.

Yep, that's where I first heard about Canadians and unlocked doors, and he randomly walked into someone's house to check if it was true. Thanks for the real scoop.

[2xx1xy1JD]

May I ask where you live? The only time I don't lock my car is when it is in the garage. Not locking cars and homes would make you a certain victim in Metro Chicago.

Yep, that's where I first heard about Canadians and unlocked doors, and he randomly walked into someone's house to check if it was true. Thanks for the real scoop.

I guess the attention is kinda nice, but Michael Moore doesn't have the firmest grip on reality when it comes to his over-the-top praise of Canada.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/michael-moore-reasserts-canadians-don-t-lock-doors-193630093.html

Moore then attempted a clumsy backpedal when he was told by umpteen thousand Canadians that they DO lock their doors, and declared that maybe they lock their doors NOW, because Harper.  Except that we were locking our doors even back in 2002, and crime rates had fallen, not risen, in the 10 years that Prime Minister Harper was in power.  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/police-reported-crime-rate-falls-to-lowest-level-since-1969-statistics-canada-says-1.3163465

 

[Beb]

I've been reading the statement analyses regarding Davey Blackburn, and in the latest installment of two days ago, there is discussion (along with seeming corroboration through a link) about pastor's possible round-about FB connection to perps.

It seems as if pastor is FB friends with a guy who is FB friends with someone who is FB friends with a guy named Alonzo Bull, who is or was big shot (leader) of a gang that at least one of the perps has been associated with. 

The commenter(s) supposedly have notified LE of the connection (which they no doubt already know).

The FB link does seem to show this might be the case, but who knows how legit. 

Anyway, I innocently () became immersed in reading all the statement analyses and their comments.  Now, I have been drawn in, and it's taking far too much of my time!!

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/11/blackburn-murder-human-nature-and.html?m=1

[Howl]

For someone who studies language, I find it odd that this statement-analysis person rambles along in stream of consciousness style, seemingly unable to draw various points together in a brisk, coherent way.   That said, the implications about Davey Blackburn's words and behavior are fascinating. 

[Beb]

For someone who studies language, I find it odd that this statement-analysis person rambles along in stream of consciousness style, seemingly unable to draw various points together in a brisk, coherent way.   That said, the implications about Davey Blackburn's words and behavior are fascinating. 

I'm not sure his purpose is to draw points together, but to analyze the words and statements, which can often seem fragmented  

I do get what you're saying, though. In fact, it can become quite tedious!

[blessalessi]

 

For someone who studies language, I find it odd that this statement-analysis person rambles along in stream of consciousness style, seemingly unable to draw various points together in a brisk, coherent way.   That said, the implications about Davey Blackburn's words and behavior are fascinating. 

I agree, the writing style is horrible. I was just looking up "statement analysis" on wiki to try to find an explanation of what it is.

 

I would have expected a much more precise, coherent message from someone whose credibility rests on an assertion that (other) people always say exactly what they mean.

 

 

[Whoosh]

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I would have expected a much more precise, coherent message from someone whose credibility rests on an assertion that (other) people always say exactly what they mean.

 

 

LOL - wow.  I could say so much here, but you summed it up perfectly.  It is still interesting to see what is said about this case, but it is interesting on so many other levels.

[Beb]

I'm not sure his purpose is to draw points together, but to analyze the words and statements, which can often seem fragmented  

I do get what you're saying, though. In fact, it can become quite tedious!

.....and apparently, his background is legit and extensive, so it IS rather appalling. On the other hand, poor grammar is common, even among professional instructors of the subject!  

[dpndetfarm]

May I ask where you live? The only time I don't lock my car is when it is in the garage. Not locking cars and homes would make you a certain victim in Metro Chicago.

 

I cannot imagine living in a big city.  It's bad enough that my brother has to remind me to lock our car when it is in their driveway overnight.  Also that I cannot take the dog out first thing in the morning in my underwear.

I live in a small town in NH.  Some residents lock their doors, but they are usually from "away".  We live so far off the road you can't see our house, but everyone on our road keeps an eye on other people's properties.  It's pretty easy to notice a vehicle that doesn't belong.

 

I have been sucked into the abyss that is the statement analysis site as well.  I am glad that others just get a funky feeling about the Pastor too.  I hope the LE folks in his area are thorough.

[Howl]

While we're on this topic of statement analysis, who is the Mentor that is referenced?

[formergothardite]

So what does he mean when he says that  they could bring butter into if she wants when talking about sex? She looked embarrassed and then he smirked and said it went way over her head. It has gone over my head too and my Google is so pure that when I google the phrase I just get info about how to bring butter to room temperature or how to bring butter from another country to America. 

He sounds like a typical, cool and edgy for Jesus asshole pastor. 

[blessalessi]

.....and apparently, his background is legit and extensive, so it IS rather appalling. On the other hand, poor grammar is common, even among professional instructors of the subject!  

Yes, there is definitely controversy around SA but it does seem to be a quasi-professional tool. http://imaginepublicity.com/2013/05/13/crimewirepeterhyatt/

They aren't really helping themselves with the poor presentation though!

So what does he mean when he says that  they could bring butter into if she wants when talking about sex? She looked embarrassed and then he smirked and said it went way over her head. It has gone over my head too and my Google is so pure that when I google the phrase I just get info about how to bring butter to room temperature or how to bring butter from another country to America. 

He sounds like a typical, cool and edgy for Jesus asshole pastor. 

I haven't seen that part.  My impure mind thinks he is referring to lubrication for anal sex?

[Beb]

So what does he mean when he says that  they could bring butter into if she wants when talking about sex? She looked embarrassed and then he smirked and said it went way over her head. It has gone over my head too and my Google is so pure that when I google the phrase I just get info about how to bring butter to room temperature or how to bring butter from another country to America. 

He sounds like a typical, cool and edgy for Jesus asshole pastor. 

The butter remark is a reference to its use during anal sex in the movie, Last Tango in Paris. 

[DomWackTroll]

The butter remark is a reference to its use during anal sex in the movie, Last Tango in Paris. 

It surprises me that someone of Davey's age, who has been raised fundie from day one, would even know about that film. 

[Beb]

It surprises me that someone of Davey's age, who has been raised fundie from day one, would even know about that film. 

I had the same thought. He may have happened upon it by searching for that subject.  I recall reading he may have had a porn problem and was taking steps to control it through documented accountability to his wife and mentor pastor. 

[Curious]

Thank you. I was horrified that people thought this was worthy of snark in the first place.

I haven't finished this thread, but I'm curious why people feel like this was posted solely to snark on this family.  There are many things posted every day on Free Jinger that have nothing to do with snarking on other people.

The OP could have just found this story interesting and wanted to talk about it with people on FJ as folks often do.

[Beb]

I haven't finished this thread, but I'm curious why people feel like this was posted solely to snark on this family.  There are many things posted every day on Free Jinger that have nothing to do with snarking on other people.

The OP could have just found this story interesting and wanted to talk about it with people on FJ as folks often do.

I agree, Curious. Snarking on this story is the last thing on my mind, and I really don't see anyone doing that in this thread. 

It seems to be a subject worthy of discussion to many, however.