Free Anna Duggar and the M Kids - Part 2 - Merge

[imjustasteph]

Twice when I've locked my keys in my car, the police have come and unlocked it for me. When I lived in a different area and did it, they told me they'd come if there was a baby or pet locked in, but otherwise I could call a locksmith.

As for wellness checks, of course everyone can have their opinions about whether police should do them, but if you're wondering how police feel about them, I just recently talked to an officer who urged me to call if I was even a little concerned -- and that wasn't even what I called to talk to him about. (I wanted to discuss a situation with a threat to an adult outside the home; he gave advice on that situation and further said I shouldn't hesitate if I ever had concern about the kids, to call and they'd be happy to check on their safety.)

[MiddleAgedLady]

Do we know if Jana is living with her for help? Also, do you think Anna's getting pressure from JB to post on Social Media to maintain their brand?

[Gossamer1]

If Anna were to go to Family Court and her lawyer says look, her husband's family is insane. They have extreme and repressive beliefs about sexuality. There is constant negative media attention on them. They have been on national television speaking about how incestuous sibling abuse is very common and the fact that it happened in their family is no big deal. The story has been reported in the international press. They are publicly promoting bizarre remedies for sexual abuse such as hard labor for the abusers and excessively modest clothing for little girls. None of the children are permitted to attend public school and instead are home schooled in a curriculum that promotes bigotry against certain fellow Americans and is anti-science. Anna's husband has shown himself to possibly suffer from delusions by suggesting that his actions are influenced by "Satan". Your Honor, the Duggar household is not a safe place for children and the Mkids are at risk of suffering social isolation, indoctrination into extreme religious views and will lack access to the universal public education provided by the State, which could negatively affect their ability to grow into productive and independent adulthood. It would be best if Anna is awarded sole custody of the children and thereby be able to protect them from additional harm from the Duggars and their problems.

^^ and that is the nice argument. If that meets resistance the custody fight has every potential to get truly ugly.

:dance: Well put!

[IrishCarrie]

1000% agreeing with the above. Fantastically put!!

[Mama Mia]

:dance: Well put!

This makes no sense as an argument at all. Anna shares all of those beliefs. She advocates for the same lifestyle. And the over the top hyperbole against homeschooling is hardly going to be effective if Anna is going to tell the judge she intends to homeschool her children ( and seems to enjoy it ) .

[Seven]

All the speculation that Anna is miserable and just about being held hostage by the Duggars is absurd. She has been raised to be subservient and really believed that Josh is the leader in their home. THis isn't like your best friend who has been cheated on. She is from a very different background than most of us and will try to keep with the covenant of marriage before she just washes her hands of him. She doesn't need welfare checks, divorce attorneys, custody advice or anyone's house to stay in while she thinks about things. The truth is that none of us know right now what she is going through, what she is feeling or who is helping her or how they are doing it - and we have no right to know unless she shares this information. She is an adult with family support and she will know what to do. It doesn't matter that we don't agree with the Duggar lifestyle. They aren't doing anything illegal.

[Mama Mia]

All the speculation that Anna is miserable and just about being held hostage by the Duggars is absurd. She has been raised to be subservient and really believed that Josh is the leader in their home. THis isn't like your best friend who has been cheated on. She is from a very different background than most of us and will try to keep with the covenant of marriage before she just washes her hands of him. She doesn't need welfare checks, divorce attorneys, custody advice or anyone's house to stay in while she thinks about things. The truth is that none of us know right now what she is going through, what she is feeling or who is helping her or how they are doing it - and we have no right to know unless she shares this information. She is an adult with family support and she will know what to do. It doesn't matter that we don't agree with the Duggar lifestyle. They aren't doing anything illegal.

Very true. And even if she was your best friend who was cheated on - repeatedly. She still might decide to stay and that is nobodies business. Certainly not the police! ..." knock, knock...ma'am open up, it's the police. We got a report you're too stupid to kick out your lying cheating dick of a husband. We need to check to make sure you didn't fall and hit your head or something.....Don't worry about a thing - there's a bunch of strangers who would like you and your children to stay with them until you get it together" .....okay then. :roll:

[vienna]

Very true. And even if she was your best friend who was cheated on - repeatedly. She still might decide to stay and that is nobodies business. Certainly not the police! ..." knock, knock...ma'am open up, it's the police. We got a report you're too stupid to kick out your lying cheating dick of a husband. We need to check to make sure you didn't fall and hit your head or something.....Don't worry about a thing - there's a bunch of strangers who would like you and your children to stay with them until you get it together" .....okay then. :roll:

Agreed! Especially to the first part regarding her backround/view of the world as a fundi. The most important info regarding Annas Situation is how Josh told her, how he explained herselve to her. Did she feel he was really sorry? Or was he just shocked and embarresed it came out? Is he now in a rehab place Anna considers as a place that she trusts that can help him with his "addiction"? Does Josh want her to stay? Was it a total surprise to Anna or did she have the Feeling something has changed at some point in their relationship? We not really know anything about the relationship between the two of them.

[EmCatlyn]

Very true. And even if she was your best friend who was cheated on - repeatedly. She still might decide to stay and that is nobodies business. Certainly not the police! ..." knock, knock...ma'am open up, it's the police. We got a report you're too stupid to kick out your lying cheating dick of a husband. We need to check to make sure you didn't fall and hit your head or something.....Don't worry about a thing - there's a bunch of strangers who would like you and your children to stay with them until you get it together" .....okay then. :roll:

:D :lol: :lol: :D

Loved this, especially the part about the strangers wanting her to stay with them.

It is natural to want to help others, but it can be intrusive, even when it is family--maybe more when it is family that may have expectations and views you don't necessarily share. Anna will need to work through this time alone, though I think a vacation from Josh is a good thing, and I was glad to hear she has a friend staying with her.

[2manyKidzzz]

I agree that her fundi world is different from mine.....but I still can't imagine it was fun when this came out. Painful. And I wonder if she is at all on the internet, if she saw the Danica interview, or had knowledge even of Danica. In her darkest moments, I do not think she is having a good time. I hope the J'slaves are their supporting her emotionally. I'm sure they are helping with the Mkids.

I do not personally think she had any idea Smuggs was like this. Famous, famous Joshie.

[EmCatlyn]

I agree that her fundi world is different from mine.....but I still can't imagine it was fun when this came out. Painful. And I wonder if she is at all on the internet, if she saw the Danica interview, or had knowledge even of Danica. In her darkest moments, I do not think she is having a good time. I hope the J'slaves are their supporting her emotionally. I'm sure they are helping with the Mkids.

I do not personally think she had any idea Smuggs was like this. Famous, famous Joshie.

I have seen no mention that the Duggar girls are with Anna, but I've seen two mentions, probably going back to the same source (who I suspect is Amy's fiancé/new husband) that Anna has a friend with her.

“Anna is miserable and very upset,” a family insider tells Radar. “Fortunately, she has a friend who is staying with her and helping with the kids.”

I hope she does have a friend who is not connected or emotionally affected by the scandal helping her and maybe telling JimBob and Michelle that Anna needs to rest and can't listen to any more advice or whatever.

[2manyKidzzz]

I do hope she has a friend with her. I hadn't read that. The Mkids are adorable. This just has to be really stressful for Anna. Idiot Smugger.

[luv2laugh]

I highly bet the friend staying with Anna is Sierra Dominguez, the party planner. Sierra and Anna are very close friends. But then again, I'm not sure how that could work since Sierra has 4 kids of her own so I don't know how she could temporarily live with Anna. Maybe t is one of the Duggar girls but I hope not because t would be super awkward and uncomfortable to be venting about your husband to them when he is their brother.... Also a bit off topic but David and Priscilla have been extremely quiet on social media which is unlike them.... They are also going on a long Family Connection ATI tour. I wonder if they cancelled or postponed it to go help Anna?

[singsingsing]

Sierra was also my first thought, but then I figured it would make no sense. She has, what? Five kids under five, or something like that? I just can't see her bringing all her kids and her husband along to stay with Anna, but I also can't see her leaving behind her husband/kids... especially not when Jana, Jinger, and Joy are unattached and available.

[EmCatlyn]

I highly bet the friend staying with Anna is Sierra Dominguez, the party planner. Sierra and Anna are very close friends. But then again, I'm not sure how that could work since Sierra has 4 kids of her own so I don't know how she could temporarily live with Anna. Maybe t is one of the Duggar girls but I hope not because t would be super awkward and uncomfortable to be venting about your husband to them when he is their brother.... Also a bit off topic but David and Priscilla have been extremely quiet on social media which is unlike them.... They are also going on a long Family Connection ATI tour. I wonder if they cancelled or postponed it to go help Anna?

The source said "friend" so I assumed a single person and not related. I don't know enough about Anna's friends, but I would imagine either an unattached fundy young woman (some other family's Jana) or an older woman who doesn't have domestic responsibilities that can't be left. I hope it is someone she can get support from.

I doubt very much that Anna is venting to anyone. By all accounts, including her brother's, she is grieving but planning to "stand by her man." She is more likely to need reassurance of her worth than someone to vent to. I hope she gets it.

[luv2laugh]

The source said "friend" so I assumed a single person and not related. I don't know enough about Anna's friends, but I would imagine either an unattached fundy young woman (some other family's Jana) or an older woman who doesn't have domestic responsibilities that can't be left. I hope it is someone she can get support from.

I doubt very much that Anna is venting to anyone. By all accounts, including her brother's, she is grieving but planning to "stand by her man." She is more likely to need reassurance of her worth than someone to vent to. I hope she gets it.

Maybe it is Tabitha Paine. She's always hanging out with the Duggars and she doesn't have any obligations such as kids.

[ClaraOswin]

Is any close with any of the Bates girls?

[YoshiCat]

Is anyone else wondering if Anna even knows about the porn star or the 'we didn't use a condom" woman? She and Josh were already hiding out before that story broke. With four kids, including a newborn, I imagine she doesn't have much time to use the internet. And I assume someone is with her, possibly making sure she doesn't get on the internet. And if she is in a house up in the mountains, she might not have internet access there.

Who knows what Josh told her about Ashley Madison. That he was on the site but never connected with anyone? That it was one woman, one time? It's awful to think she's being encouraged to forgive him and share responsibility without even knowing the whole story?

And she'll find out eventually. Would she feel betrayed if she figured out that someone who knew about it was keeping it from her while encouraging to forgive Josh?

[IrishCarrie]

I reckon Anna probably doesn't know more than a quarter of what's out there.

[realist51]

I reckon Anna probably doesn't know more than a quarter of what's out there.

I expect her brother might be keeping her informed of the worst of it since he is arguing that she should leave.

[ChestHugger]

I expect her brother might be keeping her informed of the worst of it since he is arguing that she should leave.

That's if she's even still talking to him right now. I hope she is but I wouldn't be surprised if those around her are convincing her that he is wrong.

[ClaraOswin]

Is any close with any of the Bates girls?

That should say is ANNA close with any of the Bates girls. Oops.

[vienna]

This is how Anna is going to handel her situation: Like in "The war room", the movie Dereick´s mum took the Dillarsd to lately.

The straight to the point critisism by the Guardian:

“Is your husband a self-centered jerk? Does he ignore your needs, pay no attention to your adorable daughter, scold you for giving financial help to your troubled sister? Does he have a wandering eye and come dangerously close to committing adultery? Is he embezzling from his job? Well, you should know that it’s all your fault. When you find his behavior upsetting and take him to task you are only protracting the struggle. What you need to do is surrender, go in the closet and pray.â€

Anna is probably already sitting in her war room Infos from: http://www.inquisitr.com/2396366/jill-d ... lems-away/

[19 cats and counting]

That should say is ANNA close with any of the Bates girls. Oops.

I get the impression that the Kellers and Bateses didn't know each other before Anna married into the Duggar family (and trashed the getaway car). Although TFDW and Prissy attended Michaella's wedding (but Brandon also works for ATI).

[sophrosyne]

Pickles' FB has a new screen banner/picture of the Duggar 'girls' (+ one née Duggar/Jordan(?)) doing a silly cut-up after Famy's wedding. Anna is holding Meredith and giving thumbs up to the camera. She actually seems to be happy and relaxed and having fun.

I posted over on the Dillards thread yesterday evening that Jill and Derick's moving out of the Stoneybrook house may means that Anna and the M-kids are moving in (if they're there already). I doubt the Siloam Springs house was ready for move in when the AM scandal hit. During Pris and Pecan Thief's mid-summer visit to Arkansas,the Siloam Springs house seemed far from ready (and Josh appeared to be doing the work himself with family helpers, but no Clark Wilson or TLC to make short work of the doing. J&A were living in what looked to me to be the Duggar's guest house (or maybe the downstairs of Stoneybrook.)