AMY DUGGAR ENGAGED - scratch that - MARRIED

[artdecades]

Of course, because grape juice would keep SO well in that climate!

you're forgetting that it is not just grape juice but jesus magic grape juice. thats why it didn't need to be pasteurized. cuz jesus. duh :naughty:

[Snarkle]

I'm actually wearing mine right now! :lol:

But yes. In the U.S. The norm is to wear the wedding band close to your hand and the engagement ring under it.

Or above it, as per your view. :) When I got married 21 years ago it was very trendy to get a wrap around wedding band where the engagement ring was pretty much just a stone (perhaps with side stones) and the wedding band literally surrounded it, oftentimes in a "swirly" way. I didn't get that because it meant you couldn't wear the wedding band alone because there would be a weird space in it. It was also common then to get your rings soldered together so they didn't come apart - my mom had that on her original wedding band and engagement ring (she got a replacement combo ring after she'd married a number of decades). My set is gold because it was popular then, but for the last 15 or so years platinum is what a lot of people get (in the '60s my mom got white gold because it was trendy then). I stopped wearing my very plain engagement ring (just a band with a stone) five years into my marriage when I found out the stone cracked (very hard to do but both my mom and I managed to do it, probably due to an occlusion in the stone) so I had it made into a pendant I can wear on a chain as a necklace and I got an anniversary band with emeralds and diamonds. I wore that for a while until the band split and a couple of emeralds fell out and it's been over a decade and I still need to get it fixed!

There is an interesting ring discussion on the Brandon Keilen/Michael(la) Bates wedding thread because Brandon designed Michael(la)'s intricate/symbolic engagement ring and we FJers were wondering how her wedding band fit into/under/with her engagement ring.

[ClaraOswin]

Because I get anal retentive over the most random things, that's always bothered the hell out of me. :lol: You wear the engagement ring first, so logically, that's the ring that should be closer to your hand, with the wedding ring going last because it would be placed that way during the ceremony!

I don't know what is correct. But I wear the wedding band on the bottom of my finger, then my engagement ring on top of it.

(Well, right now I wear cheapo versions of my real rings. I got them on amazon. Tried to find the closest thing to my actual rings. When I got pregnant, my hands changed size. I keep waiting for them to go back to normal...but two years later...nope. I need to get around to resizing them some day. Ha!)

[HerNameIsBuffy]

Because I get anal retentive over the most random things, that's always bothered the hell out of me. :lol: You wear the engagement ring first, so logically, that's the ring that should be closer to your hand, with the wedding ring going last because it would be placed that way during the ceremony!

This has always bothered me and you're the first person I've known to be similarly annoyed. They should be in logical sequence, dammit!

[trustworthy]

I think it is this one, and we just can't see the bling "belt":

http://www.essensedesigns.com/essense-o ... tail/D1875

I think her dress is poufing more than the model's because 1) it's a larger size and 2) it's pulled a bit because of the way she's mashed against Dillon.

[zygote373]

This has always bothered me and you're the first person I've known to be similarly annoyed. They should be in logical sequence, dammit!

That's what I always thought, and then I was informed you are supposed to wear the wedding band closer to your hand because then it's closer to your heart. I can't decide if that's sweet or if it makes me want to gag.

(Edited to clean up the quote tags)

[bella8050]

I think my grandmother is the only person I know who wore her engagement ring closer to her finger instead of her wedding band. To her it was a practical thing, that it in case a ring slipped and fell off the wedding band would be cheaper and easier to replace and so it acted as a buffer for the engagement ring.

[Whoosh]

Wait, the normal in the us is to wearing the engagement ring with the wedding banda? To wearing a fucking Diamond ring that costs a fucking portion of your liver everyday?

I am glad you asked this. I have always been somewhat mystified by the tradition of spending one to three months salary on a ring which people then just bang around in day to day. Then again, I am the type that would say rather than a bunch of roses, please get me a single daisy and spend the rest on wine. :dance: Or better yet, donate to a worthy cause. I am assuming your question means that this is not the custom outside the US? Does anyone know what other countries do/do not share this US engagement ring custom?

[HerNameIsBuffy]

Or above it, as per your view. :) When I got married 21 years ago it was very trendy to get a wrap around wedding band where the engagement ring was pretty much just a stone (perhaps with side stones) and the wedding band literally surrounded it, oftentimes in a "swirly" way. I didn't get that because it meant you couldn't wear the wedding band alone because there would be a weird space in it. It was also common then to get your rings soldered together so they didn't come apart - my mom had that on her original wedding band and engagement ring (she got a replacement combo ring after she'd married a number of decades). My set is gold because it was popular then, but for the last 15 or so years platinum is what a lot of people get (in the '60s my mom got white gold because it was trendy then). I stopped wearing my very plain engagement ring (just a band with a stone) five years into my marriage when I found out the stone cracked (very hard to do but both my mom and I managed to do it, probably due to an occlusion in the stone) so I had it made into a pendant I can wear on a chain as a necklace and I got an anniversary band with emeralds and diamonds. I wore that for a while until the band split and a couple of emeralds fell out and it's been over a decade and I still need to get it fixed!

There is an interesting ring discussion on the Brandon Keilen/Michael(la) Bates wedding thread because Brandon designed Michael(la)'s intricate/symbolic engagement ring and we FJers were wondering how her wedding band fit into/under/with her engagement ring.

I know exactly what you're talking about where the engagement ring was nestled in the band and I didn't like it for the same reason - no option to wear the band alone. But then I had my bridal set soldered so I couldn't have anyway!

I liked my first set a lot - round cut with 5 channel diamonds down each side for the engagement ring and a channel band for the wedding band. Very simple but I loved it. (Not a huge fan of the round cut, but the setting made it look more squared off.)

I shouldn't say this but I kind of hate my current engagement ring. I really wanted an emerald cut, which he bought, but I really regret it. I still love th cut for other stones, but for diamonds I didn't realize how much brilliance you lose with th long/flat planes of the cut. That it doesn't have the brilliance of a brilliant cut is a huge duh, but it's bothered me for years. It has two baguettes going down the side of the engagement ring which also - long/flat planes so not adding a lot of sparkle.

It was originally a bridal set where the wedding ring was baguettes nested around the main stone, so like the wrap around but only on one side - not wearable by itself. I lost the wedding band years ago and I didn't even want him to try to find a replacement - just went with the plain gold band.

I wasn't surprised either time, I'm not a huge fan of surprises and I'm pretty particular about stuff. The first time my mom gave him a family diamond and I gave some input into the style of the setting but he chose it. Current husband wasn't even that brave and made me give final approval before he paid. if it were just the setting I'd ask for a re-do some anniversary, but as its the main stone cut that bothers me it's too spendy to replace just because I made a bad choice and haven't learned to love it.

My mom didn't want an engagement ring (and they eloped) so her wedding band is white gold with five diamonds in a very simple row setting. It's really elegant, but it's a size 4 and I can't bring myself to have it resized. It kills me since I'd love to wear it, but not as a pinky ring and that's the only finger I can get it on. :cry:

Tldr: someone asked up thread if it's common in the U.S. to wear engagement rings every day. Is that not common elsewhere? If not, is it still a custom to get them? I don't think I'd have wanted him to spend the money if it was just an occasional thing.

[Snarkle]

That's what I always thought, and then I was informed you are supposed to wear the wedding band closer to your hand because then it's closer to your heart. I can't decide if that's sweet or if it makes me want to gag.

Yes, tradition says wedding band on the "bottom" because it's closest to your heart - same reason Americans wear rings on their left hand (as opposed to a lot of Europeans who wear them on their right) - the old belief that there is a connection from the ring finger on the left hand directly to the heart. And I wore my engagement ring on my right hand during my wedding ceremony so that my wedding band went on "first" and after the ceremony moved my engagement band on top of my wedding band so they were together in the pictures. Most weddings I've been to the bride has done something similar (moving or removing the engagement band for the ceremony and then putting it back on the left hand), but it could just be the culture/region I belong to that does that. In addition, I know a lot of women who remove their engagement rings when they go to work or wash their hands or dishes but leave their wedding rings on, and it would be a pain to remove both every time they did so.

[Mela99]

It's probably been said already but I was at a concert and missed the original snarking but...

Holy tits, Batman!

I'm stunned they would stay at that wedding with her dressed like that.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

Yes, tradition says wedding band on the "bottom" because it's closest to your heart - same reason Americans wear rings on their left hand (as opposed to a lot of Europeans who wear them on their right) - the old belief that there is a connection from the ring finger on the left hand directly to the heart. And I wore my engagement ring on my right hand during my wedding ceremony so that my wedding band went on "first" and after the ceremony moved my engagement band on top of my wedding band so they were together in the pictures. Most weddings I've been to the bride has done something similar (moving or removing the engagement band for the ceremony and then putting it back on the left hand), but it could just be the culture/region I belong to that does that. In addition, I know a lot of women who remove their engagement rings when they go to work or wash their hands or dishes but leave their wedding rings on, and it would be a pain to remove both every time they did so.

I've never been to a wedding where the bride kept her engagement ring on during the service, at least that I'd noticed. I didn't think of putting it on the left hand or I would have - that's smart. I had my sister hold mine and put it back on right after before pictures.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

Her engagement ring is set on a plain band (no side diamonds from what I can see). If you go back on King Dill Pickle's Instagram, he posted a pic of the ring in the box.

That style ring is super trendy right now and I've seen people go without a band, use 1 band, use 2 bands, etc. So it'll be interesting to see how Amy's full set will look (if she chooses one)!

Thanks. I found it on Instagram but I couldn't tell from the shot if it was a larger framed stone or like a mosaic of smaller stones? I hi the website of the store (yes, I am that bored right now and cannot sleep) but they have a shitty website and I could t find it.

I'm curious, but but not because of Amy...engagement/wedding ring porn is one of my weaknesses.

[Geechee Girl]

Just a PSA for anyone who haven't experienced the joy of boob tape: do a trial run! I didn't and trust me, its panic inducing to find out a half hour into a formal that you're allergic to the adhesive. Ow.

There's always the option of butt glue. It's a lifesaver for preventing costume malfunctions in dance and pageantry.

[Ofglen]

I'm not married... but the thing that weirds me out about the engagement/wedding ring tradition is... isn't it uncomfortable wearing rings every single day? Do you sweat underneath your rings? Do they get caught on things? Don't you worry about losing them and then losing not only the sentimental value but a bunch of monetary value too? I would be so scared. As feminine as I am, I really don't like wearing jewelry because I find it uncomfortable and I'm always afraid of it falling off.

[Milly-Molly-Mandy]

The dress is a lot plainer than I expected. And a lot bustier.

She looks gorgeous though!

I'm Australian and wear my engagement ring every day along with wedding ring. On my left hand. My ring is very comfy & got use to it quickly.

Also don't think she's pregnant. I just think she would be using protection and she did drink at her bachelorette party.

[Jessa's Feet]

Yes, tradition says wedding band on the "bottom" because it's closest to your heart - same reason Americans wear rings on their left hand (as opposed to a lot of Europeans who wear them on their right) - the old belief that there is a connection from the ring finger on the left hand directly to the heart. And I wore my engagement ring on my right hand during my wedding ceremony so that my wedding band went on "first" and after the ceremony moved my engagement band on top of my wedding band so they were together in the pictures. Most weddings I've been to the bride has done something similar (moving or removing the engagement band for the ceremony and then putting it back on the left hand), but it could just be the culture/region I belong to that does that. In addition, I know a lot of women who remove their engagement rings when they go to work or wash their hands or dishes but leave their wedding rings on, and it would be a pain to remove both every time they did so.

This is exactly how I've always known the tradition. My family, friends, and my in-laws follow the same traditions. So much so that I was quite surprised to hear such strong reactions against it.

Maybe it also helped that I didn't wear my engagement ring to the altar/exchanging of our vows. It was a known fact that we were engaged and not needing to have my ring on. Therefore my wedding ring was put on my empty and waiting ring finger.

However! I can totally see BOTH sides to this and I think BOTH make complete sense to either camp. Because group A believes in the marriage close to the heart thing (ain't nothing wrong with that) and group B, if you think about it like this, putting on the wedding ring last is like "sealing the deal." You've got the hand of the person you dated, then came engagement, and then you married that person. So it's like you sealed all of that in with that final ring. Both meanings symbolize beautiful things.

The most important thing is that you find what meanings hold value and depth for your own marriage and you just roll with that particular story or meaning.

[Ofglen]

There's always the option of butt glue. It's a lifesaver for preventing costume malfunctions in dance and pageantry.

butt.... glue.....glue for butts.... glue butt.....

.... you glue your butt cheeks together...????

*googles*

no.... you glue your butt TO things!!!! :lol:

[HerNameIsBuffy]

I'm not married... but the thing that weirds me out about the engagement/wedding ring tradition is... isn't it uncomfortable wearing rings every single day? Do you sweat underneath your rings? Do they get caught on things? Don't you worry about losing them and then losing not only the sentimental value but a bunch of monetary value too? I would be so scared. As feminine as I am, I really don't like wearing jewelry because I find it uncomfortable and I'm always afraid of it falling off.

I'm not a big jewelry person either - I wear my wedding/engagement ring and a necklace and that's pretty much it.

Everyone is different but I don't even notice mine most of the time, although if I've taken them off it feels weird and I have to keep checking to make sure they are where I left them.

I know a lot of women who are off and on with theirs during the day (washing hands, applying lotion, cleaning, etc.) but I'd lose them in the first 24 hours if I did that. I work with someone who cannot stand that I put lotion on my hands without removing my rings - so I don't lotion when she's looking.

I take mine off for any cooking/baking where I'm touching food with my bare hands and major cleaning where my hands are submerged in soapy water. First for sanitation, the second because mine are loose (need to have them sized smaller) and they will either slip off or slip around and the stone turns between my fingers and it hurts.

They do sometimes bother me if they turn while I'm sleeping, but I'm too lazy to remember to take them off at night.

Regarding monetary risk if lost or stolen, homeowners (and renters) insurance policies cover the loss even if not lost at home. (Homeowners I know does - not sure if renter insurance covers outside the home.). I've known people who've had to file claims and it's a pita because of course there is an involved process, but as long as it's part of your policy and you have your appraisal records you'll get a payout and the people I've known got a sizable percentage.

I did know two women who've filed claims when they lose theirs and then found them long after the claim as paid. In one case it was several months and the other she found it a couple years later in an old jacket. One called the insurance company and paid them back and the other didn't. It's really the ultimate honor system thing since a lot of women who get reimbursed will get the same or very similar replacements - so even if your agent sees you wearing them they don't know they aren't the duplicates you bought with the claim money.

And yeah, I'm petty and not very mature so on the rare times I'm majorly pissed at the headship I take them off. It's not to punish him, he's never once noticed - just when I'm really mad it gives me some stupid satisfaction to symbolically reject him. In the most insignificant way possible that he doesn't even notice. Good thing it's rare given how bad I am at revenge.

[Fundie Bunny]

I am glad you asked this. I have always been somewhat mystified by the tradition of spending one to three months salary on a ring which people then just bang around in day to day. Then again, I am the type that would say rather than a bunch of roses, please get me a single daisy and spend the rest on wine. :dance: Or better yet, donate to a worthy cause. I am assuming your question means that this is not the custom outside the US? Does anyone know what other countries do/do not share this US engagement ring custom?

At least in spain un less you are stinkinly rich you'llegar never get a Diamond. My cousin's engagement ring had an swaroski crystal. Not a lot of people wear them or get them, it is rather new. And about wedding bands, it's plain usually gold bands with an inscripton inside. And just it. And in the right hand

[Gobbles]

Re: Engagement rings!

I have no idea if my Mum has one, she only wears her plain golden wedding ring. My Dad has one too, but he doesn't wear it because he hates jewellery. Like Fundie Bunny said, there is something written inside of the ring. I think on my Mum's ring the date of the wedding and my Dad's name.

Those huge engagement rings with big ass diamonds are uncommon I guess.

[ADoyle90815]

When I got married, my ex got me an engagement ring that had something that actually fit over the tiny wedding band. As it was, for the ceremony, I had on my engagement ring, so when he put the wedding band on, it went where it was supposed to be. I sold that engagement and wedding band set shortly after my divorce was finalized because I didn't want anything reminding me of that marriage from hell.

[Arete]

Greeks in Greece do not have the custom of separate engagement rings. Your engagement ring actually becomes your wedding band. You give a gold band that is put on the left hand during the religious engagement ceremony. The band is switched to the right hand during the wedding ceremony. You then wear your wedding ring on your RIGHT hand.

[blessalessi]

I didn't notice her earrings, but I went back and looked... this must be a matter of taste, because I don't see what's wrong with them? They don't look cheap to me... I think they're pretty cool. They go nicely with the simplicity of the dress.

I think the dress in itself is lovely and I love the no necklace look, when people have a nice decollette.

But I don't know much about this woman, so maybe the comments are based on a perceived difference between this and what she usually wears.

[Fundie Bunny]

Greeks in Greece do not have the custom of separate engagement rings. Your engagement ring actually becomes your wedding band. You give a gold band that is put on the left hand during the religious engagement ceremony. The band is switched to the right hand during the wedding ceremony. You then wear your wedding ring on your RIGHT hand.

That's what i think it used to happen here. But i don't know anyone after the sixties that has done it. (And what i know is because of movies, because the real people in my life didn't even have enought money at the start of their marriage to buy rings)