Lori Alexander - Part 2

[Koala]

This whole Duggar fiasco is becoming older news thankfully but I was thinking this morning about the aftermath. What good has come out of it?

Note to victims: Nothing good comes from telling

Then I thought of their three adorable children with another on the way. They were on camera often and as cute as can be.

There is no upside (that I can see) to growing up on camera.

I can guarantee you there are many men out there who did things when they were 14 years old that they shouldn't have done like touch their sisters inappropriately a few times.

Who the hell do these people associate with that they think this is normal 15 year old behavior???

Now, Josh's precious family have a "scarred" father who repented of the deeds of his youth long ago and is now a new creature in Christ with not one negative report about him in the past 12 years all because there are vicious people out there set on destroying a Christian conservative family who said they opposed gay marriage and transgender people from using the bathrooms and locker rooms of their new identity. They are so blinded by their hate by anyone who speaks out against what they are doing that they are willing to destroy the innocent.

"Precious" Josh is far from innocent. He's a serial child molester and he destroyed himself. No one did it for him. You don't get to molest 5 children and then complain when people find out.

Now, we have one of the few shows we can watch as a family and not have to cover our children eyes but allow them to learn from taken off the air.

That's the real issue. Lori's losing one of her favorite tv shows and it's not fair damn it!

Ken wrote four great posts defending them throughout this whole episode and I am so happy he did. He only watched them a few times but he knew how much I loved them and read all my posts I had written about them.

Yes, Ken repeatedly defending a serial child molester coupled with Lori's assertion that lots of 14 year olds molest kids should be enough to make everyone want to take a long, hard look at Ken Alexander.

We, as believers, must never be afraid of supporting and believing the best about our brothers and sisters in Christ when they are going through a difficult time.

Support other believers by thinking and speaking the best of them, praying for them and refusing to believe the lies of the media unless the lies prove to be true.

He FUCKING admitted it Lori. Do you not believe him????? Do you think he lied about molesting 5 little girls?

[usmcmom]

Lori, WHY ARE YOU STILL POSTING ABOUT THIS?!

Nobody cares.

Edited to clarify: Nobody cares what you think about the Duggars. Everyone cares that Josh is a child molester.

I'm sure IF the Duggars know about this crazy blogger fan of theirs, they're saying "Why can't this woman JUST SHUT UP!" She's one of the people who is keeping the story alive. It's actually kind of funny how she keeps bringing up JOSH THE CHILD MOLESTER in an attempt to make people forget that JOSH IS A CHILD MOLESTER.

[2xx1xy1JD]

No, I don't look at Josh's kids as being "marked". Josh's misdeeds are his own, and I don't believe that there is some sort of mystical taint that passes through generations. I have some worries about their well-being, though.

There were no lies. The police report itself was published, and that was enough of a bombshell. Some sites are also posting the ACTUAL ATI MATERIAL that discusses sexual abuse, including a similar scenario.

[Koala]

Sheeple:

Great post Lori. At first when this happened, I was so angry at the people who did this to the Duggars, then I remembered about other Christians who have suffered for the cause of Christ, like Corrie ten boom and Pastor Saeed Abedini , who is being tortured in Iran for becoming a Christian and denouncing his muslim faith. We read in Romans how Apostle Paul tortured Christians before he was saved. Maybe the Duggars are truly our martyrs of today, maybe not killed like missionary Jim Eliot was but they certainly have been lied about and have had death threats. Jesus tells us that they spat on me and they will spit on you. They hate me and they will hate you. I now see that Satan has blinded these people who have lied about and misinterpreted what Josh Duggar did. They don't care about the truth. Their mission is to silence anyone who dares to challenge their lifestyle. God is on the throne and he is not wringing his hands. He has allowed this for some reason. What breaks my heart is that many in the church are also passing judgment without knowing all the facts.

The Duggars are modern day martyrs because Josh didn't get a pass on molesting 5 little girls? Are you fucking kidding me??????

[jerkit]

What could be stupider than Lori's posts about this?

This comment:

Great post Lori. At first when this happened, I was so angry at the people who did this to the Duggars, then I remembered about other Christians who have suffered for the cause of Christ, like Corrie ten boom and Pastor Saeed Abedini , who is being tortured in Iran for becoming a Christian and denouncing his muslim faith. We read in Romans how Apostle Paul tortured Christians before he was saved. Maybe the Duggars are truly our martyrs of today, maybe not killed like missionary Jim Eliot was but they certainly have been lied about and have had death threats. Jesus tells us that they spat on me and they will spit on you. They hate me and they will hate you. I now see that Satan has blinded these people who have lied about and misinterpreted what Josh Duggar did. They don't care about the truth. Their mission is to silence anyone who dares to challenge their lifestyle. God is on the throne and he is not wringing his hands. He has allowed this for some reason. What breaks my heart is that many in the church are also passing judgment without knowing all the facts.

[jerkit]

Jinx, Koala

[usmcmom]

Where is the exploding head smiley?!!?

I can guarantee you there are many men out there who did things when they were 14 years old that they shouldn't have done like touch their sisters inappropriately a few times

Listen up Lori. First, YOU can't guarantee me anything because we all know you do no research for these posts. Second, IF there are many men out there who "inappropriately touched their sisters a few times," that means there are many victims of sexual abuse at the hands of their brother out there. Where is your sympathy for them? On that note, what is with this need you have to defend sin by pointing out that "others do it too"? It's very juvenile of you and I thought you were more mature in your Christian walk.

You are a dim woman, Lori, so I'm going to try to use very plain language. What we see on TV is not always the truth. If you are going by how the kids act and what they've said on TV, I'm going to go ahead and assume you've never had a brain tumor and you do NOT suffer debilitating pain on a near daily basis. After all, you get up each day and ACT like al is well. You maintain a blog and, supposedly give a cheerful attitude to those around you. The point is, the way the girls act and the things they say are not necessarily an indication of the hurt they are feeling from HAVING BEEN MOLESTED BY THEIR BROTHER, JOSH!

Your complete lack of compassion and concern for these girls worry me greatly. Where in the Bible are we told to turn our back on those who have been victimized while we celebrate a criminal??? Your continued support of JOSH DUGGAR THE CHILD MOLESTER BRINGS more and more attention your own life. What skeletons are hiding in your closet?

[2xx1xy1JD]

What could be stupider than Lori's posts about this?

This comment:

:wtf: Sorry, I missed the part where the Duggars hide anyone from Nazis and were sent to a concentration camp, or the part where the United States government inflicted the same sort of brutal theocracy that Iran has.

Nobody persecuted them for being Christian. They are being criticized because their very public TV image of a hyper-moral family does not match the reality of failing to prevent repeated child molestation.

[polecat]

You know who's responsible for victimizing the Duggar sisters? Josh and his parents.

You know who's responsible for Anna and their kids being hurt? Josh and his parents

You know who's responsible for this whole mess first being swept under the carpet and then creating a huge hypocritical mess? The Duggar parents

You know who's responsible for making Lori Alexander look like a fucking monster? Lori Alexander

Seriously, Lori, stfu already.

ETA: Are these people seriously comparing the Duggars with Corrie ten Boom? God, she's even more fucking stupid than I thought. Bakker or Swaggart would be a far more apt comparison with the Duggars. :shifty-kitty:

[PrairieGirl]

I seriously cannot stay reading this thread. The rage I am feeling is palpable.

"Monster" is far too nice a word for Lori and her ilk.

[jerkit]

I LOVE it when Lori is outfundied:

Commenter

I think this is what comes from putting women in positions of authority.

The police chief who released the records was a woman. If it had been a man in charge (as would've been proper), this would not have happened. A man would've understood the seriousness of the situation and had a better understanding of the fine Christian values the Duggars represent.

Lori

There are a lot of corrupt men in authority also, Christina. I don't think this has anything to do with her being female. At least, I hope it doesn't.

ETA: She added this to the comment

However, men are better at seeing the long term damage or benefit of something than women, whereas, we are better at seeing the short term damage or benefit. This action by this police chief caused long term damage to the entire Duggar family, including the children. It's hard for me to imagine the short term gain that she percieved releasing the records would give; the show being kicked off the air, perhaps? Certainly not worth the long term damage. It was an unwise and foolish action.

[slickcat79]

No, I don't look at Josh's kids as being "marked". Josh's misdeeds are his own, and I don't believe that there is some sort of mystical taint that passes through generations. I have some worries about their well-being, though.

There were no lies. The police report itself was published, and that was enough of a bombshell. Some sites are also posting the ACTUAL ATI MATERIAL that discusses sexual abuse, including a similar scenario.

Well, sure. Because being worried about children who may become molestation victims is just like branding them with the mark of Cain :? Why do random strangers have more concern for these kids than their actual family members??

[Florita]

Her post reminds me eerily of my grandmother who in her old age thought Days of Our Lives was real and she’d talk on and on about the characters from the show as if she knew them IRL.

Sickening how Lori views the Duggars as noble martyrs yet did she ever mention the 60 Christian men beheaded in Ethiopia? Or the 200+ Christian school girls kidnapped in Nigeria? No! Because Lori is the center of Lori’s world and if it doesn’t affect her it isn’t that important or simply doesn’t even exist (molestation, poverty, spousal abuse). TLC took her favorite program off the air and that to her is a HUGE crisis and therefore it must be a HUGE crisis for everyone. What on earth could be more important than Lori's problems?

smh

[jerkit]

Aaaaaand Lori deleted the comments about the police chief being a woman.

Can you tell I'm watching samples cook at work all day?

[Koala]

KEN ALEXANDER:

14 year old youth was made famous by his parents, no choice of his own, who did some bad things by touching his sisters, but really no permanent harm came from it until the media discovered it

So according to KEN ALEXANDER no permanent harm comes from being molested by your own brother. I guess that's why Ken said he wouldn't have told if someone molested his daughters. It's really no big deal.

There was no cover up, as the parents marched him into the police station and the police did nothing.

Josh Duggar confessed to molestation 3 times before his parents did a damn thing. And the police officer they told did nothing because he was knee deep in child pornography. :angry-banghead:

the young man 12 years later is crucified

Except he isn't, so there's that :? He actually won't ever serve a day in jail for molesting 5 little girls.

[Koala]

This all brings to mind the time that Ken and Lori threatened to sue Google lest the world see that lots of people think Lori Alexander is a fucking monster. I find it ironic that they are all "forgive and forget" with a serial child molester, but let some internet meanie call Lori a name and they are ready to get a lawyer.

[lilwriter85]

Lori is never going to stop defending the Duggars. If TLC completely cans the show expect another bitch fest. We have said it before, but Lori isn't holding the Duggars responsible for anything, everything is the ebil media's fault or ebil police woman's fault. Lori keeps glossing over, that details about Josh molesting the girls was out on the Internet before they got a show. Years ago, the Alice comment was probably written off as false by many people. People here on FJ didn't believe it. The recent Washington Post and In Touch articles, show that other people around Springdale were aware of the incidents.

Lori will never fucking own up to the fact that the Duggars chose to have a reality show. Yeah, TLC/Discovery probably made the offer, but the Duggars were the ones who said yes.The Duggars could have said no, especially since the stuff about Josh was already on the Internet and some people around their area knew too. Lori and Ken don't realize that dirt has come out on other reality show stars.

[Koala]

Modest Lori's husband has hijacked Incapable of Learning again today to speak to all of her lady sheeple on the subjects of sex and porn.

Porn is not the same as a physical encounter of sex with a real live person.

Sounds like experience talking to me....

Some recently have proclaimed that just a touching a woman inappropriately on the chest is rape. Where does this nonsense come from and when will it end?

It should end with people NOT fucking touching women when they don't want to be touched! The horror, right Ken?!

Words matter

Indeed they do! For example, you wouldn't want to be some jackass roaming around the internet claiming your wife was being slandered and denied her right to free speech, when in truth she is just being quoted and disagreed with. ;)

Imagine the wife who rations sex to her husband twice a month because, "That is all he should need," yet is ready to destroy her marriage when she finds he is looking at naked butts or boobs. "Porn!" she screams, "Adultery!" "Look what Jesus said and now I am getting a divorce."

When I hear fine Christian men like Ken using the words "butt" and "boob" on the interwebz it makes me want to give him a WWFD bracelet (that's - What Would Fred Do).

You see, Fred was a fine upstanding man who loved his dinosaur and had the decency to sleep in a separate bed from his cartoon wife, lest they defraud everyone in tv land.

Ken, the next time you find yourself about to say such things to women on the net, just ask yourself: What Would Fred Do?

Just as touching a person in any sexual way is sin outside of marriage, yet is not rape, so too is viewing any sex outside of marriage sin, but not adultery.

Umm, we'll juts file that under: Words of Wisdom From Ken Alexander

[polecat]

Ken:

You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. "If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

It's good that God has you and Lori around to tell Him what He REALLY meant, isn't it?

[Koala]

Ken:

It's good that God has you and Lori around to tell Him what He REALLY meant, isn't it?

Well, you have to use the Ken Alexander standard for evaluating scripture:

God is ALWAYS much clearer on subjects that are most important to His heart, and repeats these things more than once.

find what God says about a matter and weight it. If he says it one time, search His mind on it and believe it, but don't hold so tightly to it that it causes you to sin in other areas. If he says it many times, hold fast to what He says and be a strong voice for Him on that subject, but don't condemn others who have not yet seen the light of His truth on that subject.

[polecat]

Well, you have to use the Ken Alexander standard for evaluating scripture:

I hate to tell him but God has an awful lot more to say about heterosexual sex sins than homosexual sex sins. I also hate to tell him, but God seems to take a dim view of greed, lying and hypocrisy compared to His rarely mentioned views on submission.

I'm sure that'll fall under another one of the Doctrines of Ken and Lori Alexander.

[jerkit]

Lori once said sooper sekritly that the only reason a man OR a woman could possibly want to have oral sex is if they saw it in porn.

That's all I have to add to this discussion.

[FundieFarmer]

Lori once said sooper sekritly that the only reason a man OR a woman could possibly want to have oral sex is if they saw it in porn.

That's all I have to add to this discussion.

I imagine Lori sees Ken as something like this: :zombie:

[Koala]

Crickets over at Lori's place. I guess they saw Ken wanted to talk sex again and they were all like, "Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope." :lol:

[jerkit]

Crickets over at Lori's place. I guess they saw Ken wanted to talk sex again and they were all like, "Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope." :lol:

I *think* Lori lets Ken control the comment section when he posts and usually there will be zero comments until Ken approves them all at once (presumably because he doesn't have the time Mentor Lori has to voraciously read/delete them all)