A Saturday With the Moodys (Maxwells)

[twin2]

Isn't that an oxymoron. Exciting Times With The Moodys?

Perhaps the Moodys went on what some might call a vacation to Colorado, hiked a 14er, fed some chipmunks and visited a small quaint to town with only a Catholic "church".

That would be exciting!!!

[FloraKitty35]

Perhaps the Moodys went on what some might call a vacation to Colorado, hiked a 14er, fed some chipmunks and visited a small quaint to town with only a Catholic "church".

That would be exciting!!!

And since it's Colorado, they ate a brownie as a treat, and it was a "special brownie".

[Jana814]

Isn't that an oxymoron. Exciting Times With The Moodys?

Haha.

[Talitha Cumi]

Last panel of the morning: The Physically Energized Family. But first, Anna cornered me in the bathroom! She wanted to know how my youngest is doing (I'd told her she wasn't feeling great, which is why I left the kids at home). I was kind of startled that she expected I'd call my mom after I'd only been gone for 2 hours or so. Is it weird that I expected my mom would call me if there were any issues? Anna seemed surprised that I hadn't.

Anyway, hello Steve! What do you have to tell us?

These days, families are all busy with their own things. They're like cars sliding backwards on a hill, spinning their wheels but unable to go forward. Kids like this kind of life, because they're having fun! But they aren't learning about Christ. Some households are like apartment buildings with a kitchen, with everyone going their own ways. There's no joy, and no family unit.

Why is our conference called Energize? Because energy is for work. It doesn't store well. But work is a bad word to kids today. God put Adam in the garden to work, but even the church today doesn't see work as a blessing.

(I was sitting beside someone knitting a baby blanket. My notes say "some1 is knitting wrong." I have opinions on knitting. ;) )

Thorns and thistles, thorns and thistles. Who here likes thorns? The world LOVES thorns! The church loves thorns! Why is that? Because thorns hinder! Cares, riches, and pleasures are thorns, and they bring no fruit to perfection. This world is built on the pursuit of happiness, which is why the US is a pagan nation. Take a look at other families. Learn from what they're doing. What seeds are they sowing? What is the result? If someone is so busy having fun, who has time to tend his garden? Liking pleasure is the spirit of laziness. Every normal person has an appetite for entertainment, fun and games, but how does that further them in Christ? It upsets some people when you imply their choices aren't the best. You should get your eyes off lukewarm and tell God you're striving for the best!

Your children should not have friends, because it makes them not want to be around their siblings. When we cut off our children from friends, they turned to each other. It's better for children not to have friends-- now we can spend all our time together and enjoy each other! I could spend some time telling you about our experience... (Kid in the back yells "No!" Not in response to this, but hilarious anyway.)

Education. Lots of families aren't educating their children. The children then come back and ask "Why didn't you prepare me for life? You think your child will get through school and go off to college? Those days are gone. The head of College Plus says that there's no point in going to college unless you're going to get a masters or PhD. College graduates are coming out of school and only making $8/hr.

Be valuable. Value comes from rarity. You must learn and grow to be valuable. Steve spoke with one of the associates at a rental car company, who had been to college and had worked for 7 years at the rental place, and was still only making $10 per hour. He needs to learn and grow, to be able to make more money. If you're making $10 per hour and working 40 hours per week, you're making $400. If you're able to make $20 per hour, you only have to work 20 hours to make that same amount. What if you make $40 per hour? The only thing preventing you from being valuable is laziness. The flesh will pick what's exciting, so to avoid being lazy, get rid of junk like TV or Christian movies.

Yes, Christian movies! What happened when Peter said "No, Jesus, don't go on the cross?" Jesus didn't say "Peter, it's okay, I have to do this," he said "Get thee behind me Satan!" That's how strongly he felt against anything tempting him. Christian movies stir up unrighteous appetites. Have family bible time, and no one will want movies; it gives your children an appetite for Christ.

Time is precious. Its scarcity makes it valuable. None of us knows when we're going to die. If we knew, would we make different choices? If the rapture came, where would you be?

We spend our time learning to do things together. We love working together; it gives us fantastic memories. Whatever we do, we always want to learn.

Making money: Animals are great. Abigail is the "Chickie Mama." She loves her chickens! Having lots of animals, though, can tie you down and keep you from more profitable work. What kind of work? Well, his boys were making $18-25 per hour after school by building things after school. Garage door repair is a good example: it doesn't require capital, just knowledge. Their family makes anywhere from $25-110 per hour doing 1TonRamp. You can get academic versions of software when your children are still in school, and they can use it to learn to do all kinds of things. At age 18, one of his sons taught computer skills like WordPerfect to the soldiers at Ft. Leavenworth. Your girls can do finances. Maybe even the boys can! Children are capable of working. They may be sandbagging now, but eventually they'll find work rewarding, like real men should.

Professional baseball is work, but it's a cesspit. There's better work out there to do. Joseph and John are licensed plumbers and electricians; Joseph is also an expert finish carpenter. They all work together to learn how to make things. They poured an ugly sidewalk-- looks terrible, but it works! Even if they jackhammer it up and redo it, it was worth doing the first time to learn how. Next time, they'll do better. When you build things, always build to code. Be honest.

Anything can be work. When the children were little, Steve would take them to the park so Teri could have a break. But you can joyfully do work at the park, like witnessing to the man next to you while you're swinging. There's a widow in their area, and they love to go visit with her, love on her, and serve her.

Daily exercise is important work. Go to the doctor's office and do a poll-- those people aren't suffering from exercise. Doctors today say "Diabetes is rampant! But that's okay, we can fix you!" They pump you full of insulin, but then you become resistant and they have to cut off your toes, your feet, your legs. They may be able to get it all at that point. But insulin also breaks your capillaries, and eventually it'll break the capillaries in your eyes and you'll go blind.

People who work outside the home don't like their children. Some think if children aren't having fun learning, they won't work. But folks, life isn't a comic book. If you're having fun, then you have a choice to make: am I in the Word or not?

We only have so much time. How are you spending it? Are you spinning your wheels? I'm not judging anyone, I've just told you what we do. Someday we're all going to stand before judgment, and God will say "I gave you all these children. What did you do with them?"

Steve thanks everyone for coming, and asks you to put money in their heart-shaped boxes as a love offering. Don't feel bad if you can't contribute, but gas is very expensive, and when the bus needs repairs, it's even more expensive.

And now, lunch! Go fellowship with the likeminded families and eat Chik-Fil-A!

[anjulibai]

There is so much wrong there, I can't even...Steve is such a judgmental asshole.

Thanks Talitha for the right-up!

[JessaJessa]

Who are these people?!?! I found this site from watching the Duggars and being curious about how they live, but these people ares SO over the top, I can't wrap my brain around it. I feel like i just picked up a rock and found a secret world of fundie worms squirming in the sunlight.

[ILoveJellybeans]

Wow, that is so sad. The Maxwells live such a sad existence :( I wish I could rescue these poor adult kids and show them the real world. So many things they will never know the joy of doing. They cant even watch Christian movies?? Energy is work, only do work, no fun at all. Its really sad that they have no friends and Steve thinks this is good because they are forced to interact only with eachother....do they not realise how important it is for kids to learn how to make friends? There are so many social skills that cant really be learned when the only people who are your "friends", are people who are forced to socialise with because there is nobody else and youre lonely. The Maxwell siblings aren't friends, they are mutually lonely together.

Education. Lots of families aren't educating their children. The children then come back and ask "Why didn't you prepare me for life? You think your child will get through school and go off to college? Those days are gone. The head of College Plus says that there's no point in going to college unless you're going to get a masters or PhD. College graduates are coming out of school and only making $8/hr.

Yeah, like the many grown up ex fundie kids on Homeschoolers Anonymous?

[FloraDoraDolly]

Who are these people?!?! I found this site from watching the Duggars and being curious about how they live, but these people ares SO over the top, I can't wrap my brain around it. I feel like i just picked up a rock and found a secret world of fundie worms squirming in the sunlight.

I think we all had a similar reaction when we first discovered the Maxwells.

[Coco]

"Life isn't a comic book"

Black and white thinking, obvious villains and heroes, epic battles between good and evil, brainwashing, matching family attire...

Their life is more like a comic book than anyone else i know. :lol:

[Hane]

OMG. Just...OMG.

Almost all my life, I have been a fairly religious person--attended church services regularly, prayed, attended some seminars, have read the Bible from time to time.

But am I alone in thinking, "Steve, are you absolutely convinced that this magic version of Jesus exists?" and "The Bible can be damn boring."

*slinks away guiltily*

[albanuadh_1]

I could feel myself going breathless reading that account. It is so stifling.

[Marian the Librarian]

I could feel myself going breathless reading that account. It is so stifling.

Yep - no one can suck the oxygen out of a room quite like Stevehovah and family.

[Hane]

Someday, I'd love to have someone get up at one of these shebangs and ask Stevehovah how he KNOWS that the Bible is inerrant and literally true.

[16strong]

Someday, I'd love to have someone get up at one of these shebangs and ask Stevehovah how he KNOWS that the Bible is inerrant and literally true.

Because God told him so. Duh. :wink-kitty:

[Hane]

When my late former (Catholic) pastor first came to our parish, he was promptly visited by a representative of the local Jehovah's Witnesses. (Apparently, converting a Catholic priest would be quite a coup for them.) Father Fred invited the man into his study, and said, "Before you say anything, I want proof that everything in that Bible you're holding is literally true." The guy went homina-homina-homina, and the visit came to a quick conclusion.

[gardenvarietycitizen]

Who are these people?!?! I found this site from watching the Duggars and being curious about how they live, but these people ares SO over the top, I can't wrap my brain around it. I feel like i just picked up a rock and found a secret world of fundie worms squirming in the sunlight.

Heh. You explain my attraction to this website SO well... :lol:

Seriously though, yeah. It's otherworldly, and hence fascinating. There are people out there in the world this... warped.

I found the Maxwells via Uriah - I was looking around car remodels and whatnot and found their posts about fixing up the bus. It was a good series of posts and I'd love to travel in a bus like that (but we'd have beer, yes, we would). Somehow one thing led to another and I ended up watching the Wedding Sermon O' Death. They pull you in, don't they!

[thoughtful]

Who are these people?!?! I found this site from watching the Duggars and being curious about how they live, but these people ares SO over the top, I can't wrap my brain around it. I feel like i just picked up a rock and found a secret world of fundie worms squirming in the sunlight.

Be prepared -- down this rabbit hole lies a most bizarre combination of being horrified, saddened, angered, and bored out of your gourd.

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Let us know if you want the rescue ferrets sent in to retrieve you.

[alba]

Daily exercise is important work. Go to the doctor's office and do a poll-- those people aren't suffering from exercise. Doctors today say "Diabetes is rampant! But that's okay, we can fix you!" They pump you full of insulin, but then you become resistant and they have to cut off your toes, your feet, your legs. They may be able to get it all at that point. But insulin also breaks your capillaries, and eventually it'll break the capillaries in your eyes and you'll go blind.

Maybe someone should tell Stevehovah that there are two different types of diabetes :roll:

[twin2]

I'd never thought I'd be typing this, but Steve is right.

Time is precious. Its scarcity makes it valuable. None of us knows when we're going to die.

Which is exactly why I'm going to enjoy it, do f** things and not spend my entire life cleaning ceiling fans and reading the Bible.

Sometimes, I just honestly cannot believe the Maxwell life is a reality.

The "NO FRIENDS EVER" thing is why I'm convinced they built the Aunties Park. Keep the grandkids from going to the park and meeting, heathen, worldy kids.

[Justme]

Maybe someone should tell Stevehovah that there are two different types of diabetes :roll:

What if one of the grandchildren was born with diabetes? How would they react? Both he and Nat have spoken out "against" people with diabetes.

[anjulibai]

What if one of the grandchildren was born with diabetes? How would they react? Both he and Nat have spoken out "against" people with diabetes.

It'd be God's Will and they'd be deserving of every True Christian's help caring for their child.

Because they can do nothing so well as doublethink.

[uber frau]

I'd never thought I'd be typing this, but Steve is right.

Which is exactly why I'm going to enjoy it, do f** things and not spend my entire life cleaning ceiling fans and reading the Bible.

Even if they don't want to spend their time doing the evil f-word, there are so many ways they could better spend their time. If they're so enamoured with Jesus, they might do well to look up what he claimed was the greatest commandment. It was something to the effect of loving God, and loving your neighbour as yourself. Spending your life doing busy work (even Teri has claimed that it is) with an occasional expedition to the state fair to harangue passers by is not a productive use

enough of precious time.

[SPHASH]

Even if they don't want to spend their time doing the evil f-word, there are so many ways they could better spend their time. If they're so enamoured with Jesus, they might do well to look up what he claimed was the greatest commandment. It was something to the effect of loving God, and loving your neighbour as yourself. Spending your life doing busy work (even Teri has claimed that it is) with an occasional expedition to the state fair to harangue passers by is not a productive use

enough of precious time.

Or getting kicked out of a parade for prostelyzing.

[thoughtful]

Daily exercise is important work. Go to the doctor's office and do a poll-- those people aren't suffering from exercise.

I don't question the idea that exercise is important and generally a healthy thing. But, Steve, when I was getting a year of physical therapy for an injury, I was surrounded by lots and lots of people who had hurt themselves while getting exercise. We had all been sent there by doctors.

And, yeah, the diabetes quote was obnoxious, doesn't acknowledge Type 1, and is insulting and inaccurate about doctors. He actually thinks that modern doctors don't advocate lifestyle changes before pushing meds and amputation for Type 2?

[Handmaiden of Dog]

Your children should not have friends, because it makes them not want to be around their siblings. When we cut off our children from friends, they turned to each other.

And what happens if God saw fit to bless you with only one child?

Steve spoke with one of the associates at a rental car company, who had been to college and had worked for 7 years at the rental place, and was still only making $10 per hour. He needs to learn and grow, to be able to make more money. If you're making $10 per hour and working 40 hours per week, you're making $400. If you're able to make $20 per hour, you only have to work 20 hours to make that same amount.

Yes. We all needed Steve to point out that making $20.00 an hour is better than making $10.00 an hour. Thanks for that, Steve.

What if you make $40 per hour? The only thing preventing you from being valuable is laziness.

I would truly like to smack him. He is so full of shit.