(CW: CSA) Josh & Anna 42: Prosecution Rested. After His Conviction Maybe We Can, Too

[QuiverFullofBooks]

17 minutes ago, Bassett Lady said:

A doughboy refers to infantry in WWI, the grunts in the trenches, literally. These are the lowest ranking soldiers. 
 

I thought this was a reference to him being in the trenches of prison as the lowest in the hierarchy, 

I am not understanding how this is a body insult.

Meet the Pillsbury Doughboy.

https://blog.generalmills.com/2015/11/the-doughboy-is-50/

[Bassett Lady]

5 minutes ago, EmmieJ said:

I think the meaning of doughboy you describe is no longer widely known

I am aware of the Pillsbury Doughboy, but I always thought that was just a clever play on words as they do primarily sell dough. 
 

My grandfather served in “the Great War” and my father served in WWII. They both used the term doughboy. I remember my dad singing a  song about a doughboy falling in love with an Irish girl. 
 

I can see how it could currently imply someone with a doughy physique, I just hadn’t heard that in my circles. I learn all kinds of things on FJ, and today I learned that I am linguistically antiquated. 

[QuiverFullOfCondoms]

1 hour ago, onekidanddone said:

He will like being free from Anna and the kids I don’t think he ever wanted.  What he might not understand quite yet is he won’t be the golden boy king of the heap anymore. Quite the contrary as I think he will be unprepared to be the lowest plebeian on the cell block. 

Far away from the annoying kids he can’t stand but keep looking for him, from submissive Anna, his annoying parents… I think in a sense he is relieved. No need to pretend work at a pretend car lot. He’ll have a place to stay and food to eat. Commissary for snacks. Books to read. Access to all the illegal drugs he wants. As far as he’s concerned, I reckon he’ll finally have some peace and be happy. 

[Father Son Holy Goat]

39 minutes ago, EmCatlyn said:

Re: My cat downloaded the CSAM defense

🐈🐈🐈

Once upon a time, before spam filters were any good, I got a porn site ad from a woman with a rather unusual name which was shared by my good friend’s cat.  This led to a lively exchange between me and my friend in which we hypothesized how her kitty was running a porn site from their computer.

I throw this in for comic relief, but also to add that cats are not terribly interested in accessing websites, but if they were, they would generally not access CSAM. 😉

  My cat said so.

 

If my cat were to access the internet she’d go on grub hub and have sushi delivered.

As far as the Doughboy nicknames, I generally don’t like picking on people for their appearance but I can make an exception here. I’m so happy Jessa got those digs in about Josh and his weight.

An old one but sadly still relevant: 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Father Son Holy Goat

[waltraute]

2 hours ago, gustava said:

No dissing the No 1 Ladies Detective Agency!!!

 

Man, would I love Mma Ramotswe to be on this case.

[nausicaa]

19 minutes ago, QuiverFullOfCondoms said:

He’ll have a place to stay and food to eat. Commissary for snacks. Books to read. Access to all the illegal drugs he wants. As far as he’s concerned, I reckon he’ll finally have some peace and be happy. 

I went on a date recently with a prison guard turned massage therapist, so of course being me, I spent the date peppering him with questions about prison.

And while he did say thankfully rape is not as common as we think, man, prison is nowhere you want to be. He said it's freezing cold at night, the mattresses and single pillow are flat and nasty, and they only get one thin blanket. And they can't tuck their heads under the blanket, they must be visible on the twenty minute checks. (I hate being cold, so this really stuck with me.)

Plenty of fights do break out in the prison yard, the food is terrible and they can be given very little time to eat it, and it's stultifyingly boring, even with the few books they can check out every week to read. 

I think Josh will be very, very unhappy. Which frankly, I'm fine with. 🙂

[Father Son Holy Goat]

4 minutes ago, nausicaa said:

I went on a date recently with a prison guard turned massage therapist, so of course being me, I spent the date peppering him with questions about prison.

And while he did say thankfully rape is not as common as we think, man, prison is nowhere you want to be. He said it's freezing cold at night, the mattresses and single pillow are flat and nasty, and they only get one thin blanket. And they can't tuck their heads under the blanket, they must be visible on the twenty minute checks. (I hate being cold, so this really stuck with me.)

Plenty of fights do break out in the prison yard, the food is terrible and they can be given very little time to eat it, and it's stultifyingly boring, even with the few books they can check out every week to read. 

I think Josh will be very, very unhappy. Which frankly, I'm fine with. 🙂

I hope Josh isn’t raped, not because I’m a fan but because I hope no one goes through that.

 

More importantly, how did your date go? 

[Integriste]

It really says something about our society that the worst insults our minds go to for someone as vile as Josh Duggar involve fat-shaming.  Because if there is one thing worse than being a serial sex offender and child predator, it’s being a little chubby, am I right? /s/

Let’s do better.

[bean]

50 minutes ago, EmCatlyn said:

Re: My cat downloaded the CSAM defense

🐈🐈🐈

Once upon a time, before spam filters were any good, I got a porn site ad from a woman with a rather unusual name which was shared by my good friend’s cat.  This led to a lively exchange between me and my friend in which we hypothesized how her kitty was running a porn site from their computer.

I throw this in for comic relief, but also to add that cats are not terribly interested in accessing websites, but if they were, they would generally not access CSAM. 😉

  My cat said so.

 

Can confirm. My cat typed this walking across my keyboard the other day. 

[Beermeet]

32 minutes ago, QuiverFullOfCondoms said:

Far away from the annoying kids he can’t stand but keep looking for him, from submissive Anna, his annoying parents… I think in a sense he is relieved. No need to pretend work at a pretend car lot. He’ll have a place to stay and food to eat. Commissary for snacks. Books to read. Access to all the illegal drugs he wants. As far as he’s concerned, I reckon he’ll finally have some peace and be happy. 

I could see him thinking that now.  However,  once he's actually in jail; pooing in front of his celly; showering in public; locked up; dealing with free time potential problems ( he may be seen as a rich boy) ; eating prison food ; drinking pruno to forget/ taking ass drugs....he's going to think differently.   It's jail, no way he's going to dig it more than his old life.  I don't think he's sadistic to himself.  

30 minutes ago, Father Son Holy Goat said:

If my cat were to access the internet she’d go on grub hub and have sushi delivered.

As far as the Doughboy nicknames, I generally don’t like picking on people for their appearance but I can make an exception here. I’m so happy Jessa got those digs in about Josh and his weight.

An old one but sadly still relevant: 

 

How have I never seen that Funny or Die?!  How is that possible?   No lies were told in that skit. 

[vicky3vicky]

6 hours ago, Father Son Holy Goat said:

I’m going to rephrase. I’m a lot disappointed Jill won’t get to testify. Part of it is wanting to hear her story in her words but a lot of it is me personalizing. I never got a day in court or to face my abusers and I really want that, for both Jill and myself.

This trial is a bit rough for me.

Oh god, me too!And I am 67 years old. no one in my family believed me [actually, I think they KNEW and encouraged it. I need him to be found guilty so bad.

[church_of_dog]

I apologize.  I agree he shouldn't be body-shamed and I'm sorry I suggested it.  I wasn't so much thinking of what name I thought he should be called but rather what he was likely to be called by the guys in the yard, who are probably not especially respectful.  But still I wish I could take back my comment.

Actually I think the "best" nickname he could have in prison, meaning one that wouldn't make him any friends, would be our old standard, Smuggar.

[anjulibai]

1 hour ago, karenb4729 said:

JB is too busy with his election to be bothered to come to the trial.  Its always JB first.  This article gives a good insight to positions of each of the candidates.  I hope the voters are reading every bit of info on the trial and really think if this is who they want representing him.

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2021/dec/06/four-candidates-contest-special-republican/

One of the candidates platforms is prison reform and seeing that prisoners have skills to get a job when they are released........ 

 

WAsn't there a woman who was running?

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by anjulibai

[EmCatlyn]

55 minutes ago, Bassett Lady said:

I am aware of the Pillsbury Doughboy, but I always thought that was just a clever play on words as they do primarily sell dough. 
 

My grandfather served in “the Great War” and my father served in WWII. They both used the term doughboy. I remember my dad singing a  song about a doughboy falling in love with an Irish girl. 
 

I can see how it could currently imply someone with a doughy physique, I just hadn’t heard that in my circles. I learn all kinds of things on FJ, and today I learned that I am linguistically antiquated. 

Josh is not cute enough to be compared to the Pillsbury Doughboy.

Nor is he in any way brave like the WWI doughboys.

So we definitely need another Prison Nickname for him.

I vote for “Tater” because he ain’t no tot.  (Though that is probably an insult to potatoes, which are actually useful vegetables.)

 

[karenb4729]

7 minutes ago, anjulibai said:

WAsn't there a woman who was running?

 

Yes. she is running on the democrat side.  You should check out the audio speeches on that link.  Each candidate was given 2 minutes to talk about why they are the best person for the job.  JB talk/speech was hilarious given what's going on in his family right now.  

[hoipolloi]

1 hour ago, Father Son Holy Goat said:

An old one but sadly still relevant

OMG. That is spot on. 

[OrchidBlossom]

I've never felt that Josh showed any signs of being particularly unhappy with his situation. He has a wife who will (apparently, or at least I'm sure he believes) never leave him and who will cook and clean and be joyfully available (🤢) whenever he wants. I doubt he particularly cares about his kids, but having a bunch of kids is a status symbol in his world. And he doesn't exactly do a ton of childcare work. He was a golden child, his community swept his bad behavior under the rug, and he experienced relatively few consequences from his behavior throughout his life. He is a member of a community that values him specifically for being a white christian conservative male, and who will overlook any number of infractions based on that identity. I mean whats the worst that has happened? Living in the warehouse? I mean sure, it would be nicer with windows, but I can't imagine lazy ass J*sh thinking prison will be better.

I doubt he is thinking of prison as an escape. If he is, though, he is not going to be particularly happy with the escape he is offered. As others have mentioned above, it's going to always be too hot or too cold, boring, lonely, and potentially fraught with tension or danger. It'll be a rude awakening for him.

[Dandruff]

40 minutes ago, Beermeet said:

I could see him thinking that now.  However,  once he's actually in jail; pooing in front of his celly; showering in public; locked up; dealing with free time potential problems ( he may be seen as a rich boy) ; eating prison food ; drinking pruno to forget/ taking ass drugs....he's going to think differently.

Would he necessarily get a cellmate in prison?

Wonder who would suffer more.

[karenb4729]

If Josh is sentence to the local Federal Corrections Facility in Arkansas here is what he will be doing:

"FCI Forrest City opened in April 1997. Inmates are housed in dormitories with cubicles. Educational opportunities include GED, ESL, continuing education and parenting courses. Career counseling and vocational training are also available, as well as a drug treatment program. A federal industries program, known as UNICOR, employs 300 inmates and produces a furniture line called "Harmony." All inmates at FCI Forrest City are required to perform a job assignment, including cleaning services, clerical duties, masonry, plumbing, painting, landscaping and welding."

At least he will finally know what it means to work.

[CrazyCatLady]

I've worked in several state prisons and the sex offender unit was honestly one of the easiest. They rarely got into physical altercations with each other or staff and we're generally rule followers. They are the least likely to take any responsibility for their crimes (or even see what they did as a crime) though which can be crazy making.

I ultimately left the prison system due to lack of air conditioning. When it's 120 degrees out it's pure torture.

I hope smugs enjoys his stay!

[karenb4729]

 I have nothing to do tonight but look shit up.  Here is the federal process for the rest of the trial:

" Following the defense case, the prosecutor may present evidence to rebut the defendant’s case. Once the prosecutor concludes its rebuttal case, the defense again can move for an acquittal. If the court denies that motion, the parties present their closing arguments: first the prosecutor, then the defense, and finally the prosecutor again (the government goes first and last because it has the burden of proof). Following closing arguments, the judge will instruct the jury on the relevant law for it to apply. Afterwards, the jury will retire to decide the case. When the jury has reached its decision, the jury will return to the courtroom and announce its verdict. If there is no jury, the judge will deliberate and return a verdict."

[Anne Of Gray Gables]

9 minutes ago, karenb4729 said:

If Josh is sentence to the local Federal Corrections Facility in Arkansas here is what he will be doing:

"FCI Forrest City opened in April 1997. Inmates are housed in dormitories with cubicles. Educational opportunities include GED, ESL, continuing education and parenting courses. Career counseling and vocational training are also available, as well as a drug treatment program. A federal industries program, known as UNICOR, employs 300 inmates and produces a furniture line called "Harmony." All inmates at FCI Forrest City are required to perform a job assignment, including cleaning services, clerical duties, masonry, plumbing, painting, landscaping and welding."

At least he will finally know what it means to work.

This sounds like it might be the low security section of the prison. Josh will be heading to medium where there are regular cells instead of cubes. Appears Forrest City has both levels. He'll be locked in a cell with a bunkie. Sex offenders don't start out in minimum security. 

 

 

29 minutes ago, EmCatlyn said:

Josh is not cute enough to be compared to the Pillsbury Doughboy.

Nor is he in any way brave like the WWI doughboys.

So we definitely need another Prison Nickname for him.

I vote for “Tater” because he ain’t no tot.  (Though that is probably an insult to potatoes, which are actually useful vegetables.)

 

I know it's not very prisonesque (made a new word!) but Smuggar is just such a perfect name for him. Even with a mask on, his eyes are smug! I don't know how that can even be. Maybe the reality of his new life will knock the smug out of him, but I wouldn't take bets. 

[Beermeet]

18 minutes ago, Dandruff said:

Would he necessarily get a cellmate in prison?

Wonder who would suffer more.

IDK but he apparently already had one.  I hope does. Or not, whatever is more uncomfortable for him.  

[3KidsAndStopped]

Updates I missed last night-

Bush testifies Linux can be booted up remotely. States needs router info to confirm or disprove.

Bush will be cross examined today by prosecution

Josh left court and seemed perfectly at ease with the paps, one picture has him looking straight at the camera with smiling eyes. Anna still glued to his side. I cannot. She must be deaf.

[Bluebirdbluebell]

3 hours ago, Father Son Holy Goat said:

If my cat were to access the internet she’d go on grub hub and have sushi delivered.

As far as the Doughboy nicknames, I generally don’t like picking on people for their appearance but I can make an exception here. I’m so happy Jessa got those digs in about Josh and his weight.

An old one but sadly still relevant: 

 

It always throws me that the actress and Funny or Die clearly have no idea what Michelle sounds like. The voice couldn't be more wrong. Other than that, it's good.