Maxwell 26: The Toothbrush Thing Is Real

[HerNameIsBuffy]

3 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Especially for the fundie parents who were slow to understand emerging technology. 

That’s why the one ton ramp had a “course” in keeping your family safe on the internets.

also one on how to google.

[SassyPants]

It's too bad the Maxwell girls are not relationship material (Steve's rule). They are a darling trio-

[Captain Obvious]

7 hours ago, PennySycamore said:

 

@Palimpsest, the only Jane Austen they could have watched would have been the old Greer Garson/Larry Olivier Pride and Prejudice version from '39 or 40 where the costumes were not period appropriate.  They could not have coped with seeing Elizabeth Bennet's cleavage not Mr Darcy arising from the lake at Pemberley with his wet shirt clinging to his skin.  (Thanks you, Colin Firth!)

Nah - Chelsy appears to have seen all the versions, and she prefers the Colin Firth (A&E/BBC) version according to this post and its comments.

http://www.chelsyrenee.com/2013/04/girls-road-tripsioux-falls.html

This may be the only thing she and I agree on LOL.

[JermajestyDuggar]

7 hours ago, Captain Obvious said:

Nah - Chelsy appears to have seen all the versions, and she prefers the Colin Firth (A&E/BBC) version according to this post and its comments.

http://www.chelsyrenee.com/2013/04/girls-road-tripsioux-falls.html

This may be the only thing she and I agree on LOL.

The bride wore a pretty dress for a 2013 fundie wedding. At that point, they were still altering the shit out of regular wedding dresses to fit fundie modesty standards. Hers doesn’t look all that altered. I’ll add that the version she was watching is LONG. I can’t imagine they watched the whole thing that weekend. That one is also my favorite. Colin Firth will always be Darcy. 

[PennySycamore]

@Captain Obvious, Cheesy may have watched the wonderful Jennifer Ehle/Colin Firth adaptation of Pride and Prejudice, but the Maxwell women would never be allowed to watch that one.  I did notice that Chelsy called Mr Darcy "Colonel Fitzwilliam" who is a different character altogether.  I think that Colonel Fitzwilliam was Mr Fitzwilliam Darcy's uncle. Chels mentioned that her copy of the movie had A&E on it.  That's from when when A&E had more of the Arts that are in their name.  Now it's Live PD, which I'm watching at the moment,  and Leah Remini whose takedown of Scientology I'm loving.

[The Mother Dust]

Does anyone know if the pregnant Maxwell in-laws take pre-natal vitamins?  Are those OTC or do they have to be prescribed by a doctor?

[OhNoNike]

1 hour ago, The Mother Dust said:

Does anyone know if the pregnant Maxwell in-laws take pre-natal vitamins?  Are those OTC or do they have to be prescribed by a doctor?

They can be either.  With my second, I had my doc prescribe mine because it was cheaper RX than over the counter.  I did OTC with my first because that was cheaper. 

[The Mother Dust]

1 minute ago, OhNoNike said:

They can be either.  With my second, I had my doc prescribe mine because it was cheaper RX than over the counter.  I did OTC with my first because that was cheaper. 

Oh I see.  I was just wondering if they get standard pre-natal care (as we think of it in the States) from an OBGYN or if they go with the fundie "midwives" in their circle.  If the latter, I was pretty sure they wouldn't be able to prescribe pre-natals (if they were prescription only) which you have cleared up for me.  ? .  Thanks.  Hopefully they would at least know to pick up a bottle from CVS then....

[singsingsing]

Colonel Fitzwilliam was Mr. Darcy’s cousin on his mother’s side. He was the younger son of an Earl, who was the brother of the late Mrs. Darcy and Lady Catherine de Bourgh. Mr. Darcy’s first name was Fitzwilliam, because he was named after his mother whose surname was Fitzwilliam. Incidentally his sister Georgiana was probably named after both her parents - her father’s name was George* and her mother’s name was Anne.

And yes, the mini series with Colin Firth is far and away the best version, so Chelsy at least has good taste in that realm.

*I can’t remember if this is ever mentioned in the book, but old Mr. Darcy was George Wickham’s godfather, and children were often named for their godparents. That plus the son named for the mother followed by a daughter named Georgiana makes me think it’s a pretty sure bet his name was George.

[PennySycamore]

@singsingsing,  thanks for the information about who Colonel Fitzwilliam was and what his relationship to Mr Darcy was.   This was another example of wishing we could give two reactions to a post.

[JermajestyDuggar]

10 hours ago, singsingsing said:

Colonel Fitzwilliam was Mr. Darcy’s cousin on his mother’s side. He was the younger son of an Earl, who was the brother of the late Mrs. Darcy and Lady Catherine de Bourgh. Mr. Darcy’s first name was Fitzwilliam, because he was named after his mother whose surname was Fitzwilliam. Incidentally his sister Georgiana was probably named after both her parents - her father’s name was George* and her mother’s name was Anne.

And yes, the mini series with Colin Firth is far and away the best version, so Chelsy at least has good taste in that realm.

*I can’t remember if this is ever mentioned in the book, but old Mr. Darcy was George Wickham’s godfather, and children were often named for their godparents. That plus the son named for the mother followed by a daughter named Georgiana makes me think it’s a pretty sure bet his name was George.

Then I’m going to assume Miss Anne De Bourgh’s aunt on her mother’s side was her godmother since they are both Anne. I didn’t know it was common practice back then to name children after their godparents. 

Don’t you always wonder who Georgiana and Col. Fitzwilliam went on to marry? Possibly one another but she is his ward and I always think it’s weird when a man marries his ward. Even if they aren’t that close. 

I always wondered why Lady Catherine just didn’t switch over to Col. Fitzwilliam for Miss Anne. Darcy obviously didn’t want to marry her. And Col. Fitzwilliam is a second son. So he won’t inherit. Anne has lots of money so it makes the most sense. That way they would keep the money in the family. 

[singsingsing]

54 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Then I’m going to assume Miss Anne De Bourgh’s aunt on her mother’s side was her godmother since they are both Anne. I didn’t know it was common practice back then to name children after their godparents. 

Don’t you always wonder who Georgiana and Col. Fitzwilliam went on to marry? Possibly one another but she is his ward and I always think it’s weird when a man marries his ward. Even if they aren’t that close. 

I always wondered why Lady Catherine just didn’t switch over to Col. Fitzwilliam for Miss Anne. Darcy obviously didn’t want to marry her. And Col. Fitzwilliam is a second son. So he won’t inherit. Anne has lots of money so it makes the most sense. That way they would keep the money in the family. 

It's possible that her aunt was her godmother, but often godparents weren't close relatives. And children weren't always named for their godparents, often they were named for other family members, family friends, members of the royal family, etc. So maybe, maybe not! (Edit: In Wickham's case, his father was Mr. Darcy's steward, and apparently the two men were close, so Mr. Darcy acting as godfather for his son would have been an honour and it would make sense to infer that his son might therefore be named after Mr. Darcy. And it's possible that Anne de Bourgh was named after her aunt, but it's also possible that Lady Catherine's mother's name was also Anne and she was named after her grandmother.)

Lady Catherine was determined that her daughter would marry Mr. Darcy because she wanted the two estates united. While she obviously liked her nephew Colonel Fitzwilliam very much, she would not have seen him as a decent match for Anne because he essentially brought nothing to the table. If Anne and Mr. Darcy married, they would become a great deal more powerful and rich by combining the two estates. Plus, Lady Catherine and her late sister had planned for their two children to marry when their kids were still babies, and Lady Catherine seemed pretty intent on keeping that pledge. 

I've definitely always wondered who they went on to marry! Jane Austen wrote a bit of an epilogue in a letter for some of the characters - Kitty married a clergyman, and Mary married one of her uncle's law clerks - but I don't think she touched on what happened to Georgiana or Colonel Fitzwilliam.

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 hour ago, singsingsing said:

It's possible that her aunt was her godmother, but often godparents weren't close relatives. And children weren't always named for their godparents, often they were named for other family members, family friends, members of the royal family, etc. So maybe, maybe not! (Edit: In Wickham's case, his father was Mr. Darcy's steward, and apparently the two men were close, so Mr. Darcy acting as godfather for his son would have been an honour and it would make sense to infer that his son might therefore be named after Mr. Darcy. And it's possible that Anne de Bourgh was named after her aunt, but it's also possible that Lady Catherine's mother's name was also Anne and she was named after her grandmother.)

Lady Catherine was determined that her daughter would marry Mr. Darcy because she wanted the two estates united. While she obviously liked her nephew Colonel Fitzwilliam very much, she would not have seen him as a decent match for Anne because he essentially brought nothing to the table. If Anne and Mr. Darcy married, they would become a great deal more powerful and rich by combining the two estates. Plus, Lady Catherine and her late sister had planned for their two children to marry when their kids were still babies, and Lady Catherine seemed pretty intent on keeping that pledge. 

I've definitely always wondered who they went on to marry! Jane Austen wrote a bit of an epilogue in a letter for some of the characters - Kitty married a clergyman, and Mary married one of her uncle's law clerks - but I don't think she touched on what happened to Georgiana or Colonel Fitzwilliam.

My guess is that after Darcy betrayed her, she showered much more attention on Col. Fitzwilliam. Probably just because she was so angry with Darcy and Col. Fitzwilliam is the only nephew left that will come visit her. I assume his older brother is too busy being an Earl to visit his aunt. All of her attention on Fitzwilliam may have made her decide that he is going to marry Anne. That’s just my guess. Fitzwilliam is less stubborn than Darcy and pretty amiable so maybe she was able to push him towards Anne. 

I do know what happened to Caroline Bingley though. I know she either died a bitter old maid or she married a man like Mr. Hurst and can barely stand him. 

[singsingsing]

1 hour ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

My guess is that after Darcy betrayed her, she showered much more attention on Col. Fitzwilliam. Probably just because she was so angry with Darcy and Col. Fitzwilliam is the only nephew left that will come visit her. I assume his older brother is too busy being an Earl to visit his aunt. All of her attention on Fitzwilliam may have made her decide that he is going to marry Anne. That’s just my guess. Fitzwilliam is less stubborn than Darcy and pretty amiable so maybe she was able to push him towards Anne. 

I do know what happened to Caroline Bingley though. I know she either died a bitter old maid or she married a man like Mr. Hurst and can barely stand him. 

I’m almost positive Colonel Fitzwilliam wouldn’t have married Anne de Bourgh - the match just wasn’t good enough for her, and Lady Catherine was obsessed with rank and tradition and so on. I think despite her sickliness and general lack of personality (and overbearing mother), if she lived long enough to marry, she probably found some baronet or wealthy landowner who was more than happy to add her fortune to his own. (Also, I like to think Colonel Fitzwilliam got to marry someone he really liked in the end - he seemed like a good guy.)

I think you’re spot on with Caroline, though. I don’t think she ever learned her lesson. I think she probably settled for the most impressive man she could find before she started approaching the ‘years of danger’ (her late 20s - lol) and spent the rest of her life resenting everyone but pretending to be happy.

[WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo?]

I have to confess that my original reason for reading Pride and Prejudice was so that P.D. James' novel Death Comes to Pemberly (set years later) would make sense. After I read P&P, I was glad I had read it for its own sake. I still have to remind myself sometimes that the events in P.D. James' book aren't "canon". I did like her way of using the characters and setting, but the book is clearly written in P.D. James' style, not Jane Austen's.

[mango_fandango]

I read Pride and Prejudice for school. When we read something for school we often watched a film/TV version, we watched the Colin Firth one (of course) 

I think that Melanie got regular pre-natal care, given her history. Before Susannah was born they mentioned scans. I’m not so sure about the others, but they may well get prenatal care too. They don’t really mention illness or health on the blog unless it’s to do with Scamaritan, so no indication on whether they use regular medicine or essential oils and general quackery.

[SPHASH]

New post up.  Goofy Anna and Scary Mary had a shoebox packing "party".  Why do they call every work project that involves the family a party?  Sheetrocking party at Smug Joes, landscaping party at Gigi's, blech!  And I think Anna and Mary only do the shoebox thing every year to feel good about themselves and get pats on the back from their followers.

[grammyj]

The new post just makes me sad...

[SPHASH]

Pretty soon either Forgotten Jesse or Poor Sarah will escort Anna and Mary to Denver to work in the Scamaritan warehouse to ship boxes.  I think the only reason they go is cuz it's in fucking Colorado!

[Jingerale]

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Anna and Mary organized shoebox packing parties, inviting different family members. Even the adults enjoyed being a part of the process.

But...Anna and Mary are adults...right?

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The process was set up like an assembly line, and then each group received info on how to do it. Usually, it was one of each  but sometimes two.

Info on how to do what? One of each what? Sometimes two...of what?

[FaithAndReason]

Hey-Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy is MY boyfriend. Y’all better back off. ?

[nomoxian]

On 12/1/2018 at 1:34 AM, Dandruff said:

His little world is expanding, in the sense that his children are marrying and having children, but I think his control is decreasing as each one leaves home.  Four of his sons now cleave to their wives (not Steve) and it's all bible-approved.  I suspect what's going on now involves more manipulation than authority...and I doubt it feels good. 

It's probably worse for the ones still at home, especially since in the case of Sarah, she is older than 2 married siblings.

[Melissa1977]

On 12/2/2018 at 3:05 AM, The Mother Dust said:

Oh I see.  I was just wondering if they get standard pre-natal care (as we think of it in the States) from an OBGYN or if they go with the fundie "midwives" in their circle.  If the latter, I was pretty sure they wouldn't be able to prescribe pre-natals (if they were prescription only) which you have cleared up for me.  ? .  Thanks.  Hopefully they would at least know to pick up a bottle from CVS then....

Maxwells visit doctors. Melanie has had all her children in a hospital. When she was pregnant with the first one, she had normal medical appointments, where they found the pregnancy was high risk. NR Anna and Elissa have choosen homebirths, but due to Melanie's experience, I'm sure they have appointments to check that the babies are healthy and that the delivery is low risk. Having a home birth is not a foolish decision, if the midwife is an expert one and there's a hospital near home. Regarding vitamins, I don't see them refusing a medical prescription that is going to help the pregnancy itself.

 

 

[freejugar]

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We praise the Lord for every OCC shoe box He supplies for and allows us to pack. Each year the number has increased, and we are grateful for that as well. We don’t think we should share those numbers on the blog.

why not? modesty?

[Jana814]

17 minutes ago, freejugar said:

why not? modesty?

I was wondering the same thing.