Lori Alexander 55: God Frowns Upon Lying, Lori

[Briefly]

I have never heard of the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System.  I know that there is a group that rates daycare centers but I have never heard of this one specifically.  Because this is Lori we are discussing here, I wonder if she or her followers made that up?  I'm not saying abuse doesn't happen, just that I don't think it would be that often because that sort of thing generally gets publicized and the place winds up getting shut down.

[usmcmom]

51 minutes ago, feministxtian said:

Ken doesn't have enough gonads to even TRY boot camp. Neither do his sons. 

 

I think he knows that too - about himself and his sons - which is why he spends so much time talking up their manhood. 

My son graduated from boot camp in October, 2010 so I am getting lots of reminders on Facebook of this week leading up to the ceremony. Just today, I was reminded that eight years ago he was completing The Crucible. 

Several weeks after his graduation, we received a DVD of their completion of The Crucible and receiving their EGA. I remember sitting in front of the TV, all alone, and just crying as I watched it. 

The mental strain of military training is just as bad as the physical (according to my son - I wouldn't know) I wonder which would have finished Ken off first. 

 

[PinkPrincess0213]

@Briefly, it is a real thing apparently. Some sort of voluntary data collection system. Anyone who is better with data than me is more than welcome to look and see what they think. Not my wheelhouse, unfortunately. https://www.acf.hhs.gov/cb/research-data-technology/reporting-systems/ncands

[dairyfreelife]

30 minutes ago, Briefly said:

I have never heard of the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System.  I know that there is a group that rates daycare centers but I have never heard of this one specifically.  Because this is Lori we are discussing here, I wonder if she or her followers made that up?  I'm not saying abuse doesn't happen, just that I don't think it would be that often because that sort of thing generally gets publicized and the place winds up getting shut down.

When I worked in daycares, we had to report every single injury of any kind. A kid bites another kid, if hit each other and any bruise or cut results, if a child got a cut or scrap on the playground, had a kid manage to hit their face on the door hinge once, all reported. All accredited childcare centers get regular inspections and have to show they are following standards and laws, so yeah, not sure on the high rates of abuse in daycares. People tend to work in daycares because they like kids and are quite protective, at least in my experience, of the children in their care. I would bet the general population of parents and relatives caring for children would have much higher rates of abuse and neglect for sure.

I would most certainly trust a childcare center to watch my kids over Lori or her fangirls any day. Without question. 

[lilwriter85]

39 minutes ago, KDA said:

I don't know anything about that fangirl, but that whole situation disgusts me. That is abuse! Financial abuse at the very least. What kind of "man" puts his wants first, before his family's needs? We've been dirt poor. Many times. But you don't, ever, under any circumstances, put wants before needs. And I can't think of any single circumstance when soda and chew is a need, rather than a want. I'm really hoping that fangirl didn't have children, because then it's not just financial abuse, but it's child abuse too. Staying with men like this is never the solution.

This was the thread where that fangirl came up. From what I remember she wasn't a frequent commenter on Lori's blog FB. in that thread here posters were annoyed with her. The husband was spending $120 a week on soda and chew. That amount seemed a lot for chew and soda. They were waiting on his payday to go shopping. It pissed me off that the fangirl didn't stand up for the needs of her three kids.

 

 

[feministxtian]

30 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

The mental strain of military training is just as bad as the physical (according to my son - I wouldn't know) I wonder which would have finished Ken off first. 

My husband warned my son that BCT was a head game. Son rolled on through. DI got up in his face and was screaming at him and son looked at him like "are you done yet? STFU". DI wanted to know why son wasn't reacting. Son told DI "my mama can make you cry". DI left him alone the rest of BCT. 

[dairyfreelife]

12 minutes ago, PinkPrincess0213 said:

@Briefly, it is a real thing apparently. Some sort of voluntary data collection system. Anyone who is better with data than me is more than welcome to look and see what they think. Not my wheelhouse, unfortunately. https://www.acf.hhs.gov/cb/research-data-technology/reporting-systems/ncands

I didn't go super deep, but she's very confused or being purposely misleading. The site and statistics are for all CPS reports. Nothing there lends to abuse from childcare centers. What millions of CPS reports has to do with daycare is lost on me. 

[PinkPrincess0213]

Thanks @dairyfreelife!

[lilwriter85]

4 hours ago, TeddyBonkers said:

@Kenwould have washed out of basic training. His sons would have washed out of basic training. He likes to brag that he's so manly because he plays basketball and his sons are manly because they played sports, but that means piss all when it comes down to pulling up your big boy britches and signing on the dotted line.

And he can fuck right off with comparing birthing a baby to playing football. Does he realize that there is a shitload of uncomfortableness even before labor? Anyone ever deal with a baby foot in a rib cage for a week or two? Heartburn? Non stop puking?

I have wondered if Ken and/or the sons have ever hunted, fished, or handled guns in some other way Like you said, he's mentioned how they were involved in sports and how that's so manly(in their views). There was a blog post where Lori said something that her sons were manly because they did oil changes and other repairs. Then there was Lori's post about how they visited a farm in Wisconsin a couple of years back. She that if only women existed we would all be vegetarians because women don't hunt or slaughter animals on farms. She was such an idiot to post that, but that was when I started to wonder if Kenny boy or the sons hunted. But, I'm guessing none of them do because if they did you know Ken or Lori would be posting hunting pictures or pictures of them at shooting ranges to brag about how "manly" Ken and the sons are. 

Not every man wants to hunt or shoot guns and that's ok. Also, not all men are fit for the military and that's ok too. It's annoying as fuck for Ken and Lori to constantly talk about the military and how it's only for men and how only men have the strength for the military. I also recall some post where Lori trashed women in the military and law enforcement and one of her fanboys said that he played hockey with a woman who was also a cop and that he feared that she would get hurt.  The fanboy and Lori didn't take into account that the woman has a gun and may be working with a partner and they have no idea what kind of self defense training/skills she has under her belt. Also, some men go into law enforcement training academies and they don't make it through to graduation for several reasons. 

[feministxtian]

27 minutes ago, lilwriter85 said:

I also recall some post where Lori trashed women in the military and law enforcement and one of her fanboys said that he played hockey with a woman who was also a cop and that he feared that she would get hurt.  The fanboy and Lori didn't take into account that the woman has a gun and may be working with a partner and they have no idea what kind of self defense training/skills she has under her belt. Also, some men go into law enforcement training academies and they don't make it through to graduation for several reasons. 

I went to high school with a girl who became a cop. She was 5 foot-nothing and maybe 120lbs WITH vest and belt. She patrolled downtown on 3rd shift. Yeah, you did NOT screw with her. She could take down men 3 times her size without breaking a sweat. 

These idiots don't realize that women are every bit as tough as men are. We may or may not have the same physical strength (YMMV), but...considering we grow and nurture tiny humans, shoulder the load of family, deal with all kinds of shit every damn day and occasionally move furniture...yeah, we're tough AF. And, changing oil and car repairs??? If I still had my tools...ya know? 

[Chocolatedefrauded]

Not to be crude, but it f I can change oil in a car & kill a chicken or other standard country girl stuff, will I grow a dick? 

[lilwriter85]

28 minutes ago, Chocolatedefrauded said:

Not to be crude, but it f I can change oil in a car & kill a chicken or other standard country girl stuff, will I grow a dick? 

lol thank you for the laugh.  Lori would probably say that you're trying to be a man and that you're not godly. She posted something like that in one of her posts against women in the military and law enforcement. 

 

[feministxtian]

5 hours ago, lilwriter85 said:

lol thank you for the laugh.  Lori would probably say that you're trying to be a man and that you're not godly. She posted something like that in one of her posts against women in the military and law enforcement. 

 

dumb bitch doesn't understand, we don't want to be men...I mean, I really don't want to have an appendage that has a mind of its own and seems to do most, if not all the thinking for me...

[Chocolatedefrauded]

Yup, I’m happy with the parts I got. I do wonder what is going on in that crazy head of Lori’s that makes her hate women & worship men. She’s pathological about it. Plus the food issues. A good shrink would have a lot of work to do with Lori!

[Momto2Princesses]

Lady of Reason is a bitch. I'm pretty sure she is the type of person I would hate on sight and want to run over with my car. There are VERY FEW people I feel that way about and I can usually find at least 1 redeeming quality about them. I'm not seeing that in her... at all. It seems she goes out of her way to be a judgemental bitch. 

Jeff is a fucking idiot. The mental gymnastics one has to do too compare a Hallmark Movie to porn is mind boggling. I bet he's a winner with all the ladies.  

Lori Alexander is not only a bitch but a stupid bitch. Why can she not grasp her petty little mind around the fact, that women can do great things without having to use their husbands as a fucking ATM. 

This is why both my husband and I are encouraging and guiding our girls to college. To get an education, and have a career before they get married. I am so grateful for the strong Godly women that guide and encourge my girls to reach for the stars all while praising God for their gifts and talents. God does not just hand out gifts and talents to men.

Lori Alexander you are a toxic plauge that I pray will never touch my children. 

[Free Jana Duggar]

I see this morning on her blog, Lori is still insisting that the Proverbs 31 woman didn't have any money, She claims it must be her husband's earnings when verse 16 specifically says "out of HER earnings". 

[Momto2Princesses]

Quote from Lori Alexander about the Proverb 31 woman. 

"Yes, she sewed some things and sold them but she didn’t go to a factory every day to sew them. She sewed them in her home, most likely with her daughters by her side."

Lori, you idiot they didn't have factories back then. That does not lessen the fact that she worked to help her family and to glorify God. I mean dear Lord woman use at least 1 of your 4 brain cells. Also this is how you quote someone. You use quotation marks. They are available on all keyboards, not just heathen worldly ones. It's not really a wonder why she didn't do well in school and couldn't hack it as a teacher. 

[cindyluvs24]

OT: I went to a conference on Thursday aimed at professional women who left the workforce to raise kids or care for parents or climb K2 and now want to "relaunch."  In the opening remarks, the speaker had a powerpoint that showed 100% of the attendees had Bachelors degrees, about a quarter had a law degree or MBA, about 15 % had a combined post-grad degree (JD/MBA, MBA/CPA etc.)  and a few others had various Masters degrees.  Plus the conference was held at Columbia Univ. - a fairly brainy place full of brainy people to begin with.  Several financial firms and other companies have implemented "returnships" - similar to internships where they hire you, get you up to speed, mentor you etc.  

Lori would have Lost.Her.Shit.

[Tigerchild74]

Religious people might actually do well to fear church-based daycares and preschools.  In many states they are exempt from regulation, and there are quite a few abusers and even people who have had children nearly killed (or actually killed) in their care just set up shop in the next state or even just the next municipality and claim to be a religious/church preschool to avoid any kind of oversight.

 

[Frog99]

On 10/3/2018 at 10:23 PM, SilverBeach said:

We made these all time growing up, with squishy cheap white bread. Sometimes we used grape jelly instead of sugar. Fond memories.

My mom used to make me cream cheese and jelly sandwiches on white bread. It was best with her homemade strawberry jam. 

On 10/4/2018 at 2:27 PM, delphinium65 said:

Lori does not naturally love anyone but herself, so she thinks other women can't love naturally either, and pulls Bible verses out of her ass to support her preconceived notion. 

I spent 19 years in child welfare and I worked with two mothers that I would say didn’t love their kids. But they had both endured significant unaddressed trauma during their childhood years and had personality disorders not addressed by therapy (they weren’t going). And one had a 20 year addiction.

23 hours ago, EowynW said:

 I feel like a terrible person admitting this but i would only be a Mom if I could have my kid(s) in child care atleast a couple days a week. I just cannot be a 24/7 Mom. I'm not built that way. 

I couldn’t state home all day- with or without kids. I don’t think that’s terrible. I have 2 articulate, intelligent, resilient, empathic, independent kids. I also had a childcare provider who always encouraged parents to send kids on work holidays or other random days off, because she recognized the importance of a bit of me time. 

19 hours ago, lilwriter85 said:

Ugh, this moron can't get that many families can't live comfortably solely on the husband's income. I bet some of her fangirls who have financial struggles sometimes have late payments on bills and issues with having food in the house because of a lack of money and Lori doesn't give a shit them while she was having Kenny boy pay for social media promotions and her expensive butter.  I still remember that fangirl a year or two ago who barely had money and food after her husband got his allowance for soda and chew. She posted a picture of her almost empty fridge and Lori never responded to her.  Lori probably sees those money struggle stories, but can't relate at all. I know Ken said that they had money issues when he posted here and people who have read Lori's book have mentioned that.

I'm guessing the money issues they had weren't major and were probably resolved quickly and didn't linger on. Many of Lori's fangirls will likely have constant money issues for years to come especially if they have a large family and the husband's income never increases.  I admit there are times I wish I could slap some of Lori's fangirls for actually believing that Lori can relate to them and give decent advice.

She also doesn’t get that most women work because there is a financial need for them to do so and that the salary might also support some  extras. They just see a cell phone and second car and assume that’s why the wife works. I make very good money. My working provides good and affordable health insurance for us, helps ensure bills are covered, allows us to save, and do some extra fun things. 

15 hours ago, KDA said:

I don't know anything about that fangirl, but that whole situation disgusts me. That is abuse! Financial abuse at the very least. What kind of "man" puts his wants first, before his family's needs? We've been dirt poor. Many times. But you don't, ever, under any circumstances, put wants before needs. And I can't think of any single circumstance when soda and chew is a need, rather than a want. I'm really hoping that fangirl didn't have children, because then it's not just financial abuse, but it's child abuse too. Staying with men like this is never the solution.

I always wondered if she was just trolling. 

14 hours ago, PinkPrincess0213 said:

Does anyone know if this is a true stat? The link goes to a law firm site, where the lawyer describes himself as a "aggressive personal injury" lawyer, so....

This used to be my work arena. NCANDS data is collected but she is inaccurately using the data to suggest that is the number of childcare related cases of child abuse/neglect. She needs to do a better job of researching. But alas, she lacks critical thinking skills so that’s unlikely. 

It looks like my busy week caused me to miss a whole lot of Lori antics! I had 9 pages to catch up on here. 

[louisa05]

31 minutes ago, Tigerchild74 said:

Religious people might actually do well to fear church-based daycares and preschools.  In many states they are exempt from regulation, and there are quite a few abusers and even people who have had children nearly killed (or actually killed) in their care just set up shop in the next state or even just the next municipality and claim to be a religious/church preschool to avoid any kind of oversight.

 

That is absurd. I worked in church based daycares and they had to adhere to all state regulations and certifications. Home daycares only have to be licensed if they have four or more children from different families. So, for example, if you care for six kids from one family or three kids from three families, no oversight is required. 

Some church based schools (kindergarten and up) here have no oversight. But in order to do that, the students have to be registered as homeschoolers with their local public school district and the parents have to submit curricula following homeschool regulations. 

[feministxtian]

Seriously, I just can't with this woman anymore. But, I'm one of those "God-hating" women who's working at home this weekend. I've earned the opportunity to work from home, my boss trusts me to not just say I worked, but to have pretty damn strong evidence that I'm working. 

I have a shitton of projects due and I'm already behind...therefore I work. Goal is to pull 20 hours between last night and tomorrow. 

Regarding money...we have "his" and "my" bank accounts. Both are joint. It's OUR money. 

[SilverBeach]

1 hour ago, louisa05 said:

Home daycares only have to be licensed if they have four or more children from different families. So, for example, if you care for six kids from one family or three kids from three families, no oversight is required.

Laws and regulations vary by state.

[smittykins]

They do.  In NY, if you care for more than two children(other than your own), you need to be licensed. 

[louisa05]

15 minutes ago, SilverBeach said:

Laws and regulations vary by state.

Yes. I'm aware. And I was saying that I find the lack of regulation of church or religious centers in some states appalling. Then I shared the regulation requirements in my state.