Lori Alexander 54: Embracing the Manosphere

[onemama]

6 hours ago, KDA said:

Considering that Lori has to approve all comments that are published on her blog, I am absolutely disgusted that she is posting that crap from Elias. 

Same here. And the crap from Jim Thomas:

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I had many women want to marry me who were career women. I ignored them all because I wanted a mother not a worker. 

Dave2

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Not weak in the sense that they lack power, but that they seldom use that power wisely. Young women are “powerful” in the same way a spendthift who just inherited a million bucks is “rich”.

Dave, responding to a woman's comment:

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History is not complicate Holly. Eve embraced the words of Satan and joined forces with him against the Word of God and against the rule of the man.

And are you saying that Valjean should hearken to your voice?

 

more Dave

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The healing of the church STARTS with women taking their rightful place.

Valjean

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I simply can’t even find a woman who loves God, wants to marry, and doesn’t believe in birth control.

I’m so disgusted. The very beauty God gave a woman to attract a husband to her, is now a deadly trap. As a man, I’ve learned that a woman’s alluring beauty and seductive dress is quite dangerous.

and I’m a handsome man

 I recently overcame a porn habit, and I was even into prostitution.

 it’s very frustrating to see thousands of beautiful women, who would make wonderful wives and mothers, nearly useless, and unworthy of being pursued, because they stubbornly insist that a career and an education is more important than being a wife and a mother.

 

Ray

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 Persons who are equal, or who God considers equal, are not ‘in subjection’ one to the other. ‘In subjection’ presupposes, instead, inequality between the sexes, just as they were created by God.

Likewise, Genesis recounts that the creation of the male and female again was not equal. God ‘breathed’ His pneuma or breath into the male, a thing He did not do with the female, because she was not intended to be masculine. The female was created from the male.

 

Luke

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 woman who waits til their 30s to consider marriage (focusing on feminist careerism and/or the hookup sex carousel) forget several other things, crucial things.

First is, why would a man who has the financial success and attractiveness levels they want marry her? He has money already, and doesn’t need hers. She can’t give him children 

He got accustomed to doing without her in his life, and she has very little she could now add to it.

So, that rare* top Alpha man that all the near-menopausal career harridans want, he’s not going to marry them.

 

These are replies to the "women are no longer marriage material" post.  Lori is showing her true colors. 

[SuperNova]

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As a man, I’ve learned that a woman’s alluring beauty and seductive dress is quite dangerous.

and I’m a handsome man

 I recently overcame a porn habit, and I was even into prostitution.

 it’s very frustrating to see thousands of beautiful women, who would make wonderful wives and mothers, nearly useless, and unworthy of being pursued, because they stubbornly insist that a career and an education is more important than being a wife and a mother.

Valjean is something else. He wants us to know that he's not one of the uglies. He's handsome, dammit! Mmhmm, I'm sure his mom tells him he's handsome all the time. Also, he was (probably still is) into porn and prostitutes. But he's over that now. This makes Valjean quite the catch, but women who want education and careers? Useless.

 

Thanks @onemama. Credit to you but for some reason I was having trouble quoting your quotes.

[Sarah92]

I have to laugh at these guys. "I watched porn and slept with prostitutes  (many of whom were probably sex trafficked into it). I used women in a disgusting manner, but how dare those women use birth control to keep themselves from getting pregnant. I'm just so sad that women aren't living lives how I want them to live. They're useless unless I can use them how I want. " The narcissism is high in this one.  And according to the other ones, women are totally equal in value except they're weak, easily deceived, too emotional, less intelligent, not capable leaders, are to be submissive to men even when their husbands are being sinful..... Yep that certainly makes them seem equally valued right there. 

 Eve might have been deceived into wrong doing but I think it's much more telling that Adam took a bite out of the fruit knowing full well what it was. And then he blamed his wife.  He knowingly choose wrong and I think that's much worse than an ignorant choice. 

[Petronella]

First of all, thanks @onemama. Those were horrifying but important to read one after another like that.

Something I find baffling about rants like these is that their proposed solution to “I don’t have a satisfying life partner (because I’m disgusting and what I demand is terrible)” is “so all women everywhere should change to be pleasing to me.” Why does it matter what all women do or are? For monogamy, you only need one. Why not just wish for a lid to your pot? Why bemoan all of culture? (Not that I’m wishing for any woman to fit the constricting mould they propose; just noticing how even from their twisted points of view it’s a strange solution.)

I’ve mentioned before a family member I have who rants about very unimportant things, making them moral matters instead of matters of taste, and how I think this is because she feels afraid to own her own taste. She can’t simply say “I prefer”; instead it’s always “right and wrong”.

These guys—and this is only a small point but the big points have been made—are such freakin’ drama llamas and cowards. It has to be some godly crusade, some culture war, instead of the very normal hoping-to-find-your-romantic-best-friend, which for some comes easily and for others takes more time.

*shudder* Their sentiments are just so gross.

Also, what’s with 30 being near-menopausal?? And what’s with the claim that college-educated women won’t get married? Uh, look around. Many, many, many college-educated wives (often married to their college boyfriends!). It’s just such a bizarre claim, utterly removed from reality.

And, um, use of porn and prostitutes to be forgiven and forgotten, but a college education? Never! (What about a female version of himself, using porn and prostitutes? His head would explode.)

[Curious]

20 hours ago, onemama said:

Some more Elias

And Lori replied:

 

That reply from Lori actually shocks me.  Whether she really believes that or not, I have no idea, but the fact that she actually pushed back against abuse (even emotional abuse) is quite a lot of progress for her.

She used to just flat out deny abuse took place in "godly" marriages.  One of the things we really took Ken to task for was her idea on abuse and even he had no real progress on her attitude, though eventually, he did force her to put up some kind of disclaimer on some posts.

I am happy (who says that in a Lori thread these days) that she addressed this, included emotional abuse and said to get help.

Maybe she can learn (or at least learn to say the right things, even if she doesn't believe them)

[crawfishgirl]

10 minutes ago, Curious said:

 

Maybe she can learn (or at least learn to say the right things, even if she doesn't believe them)

I think Lori said it because she felt that she had to - she needed to push back so that she would be able to claim that she has done so.  And it's possible that Ken told her that she needed to do it, since he seems to be more aware of how she is being perceived.

[Sarah92]

Saying that women who go to college don't get married is idiotic.  A large portion of women I met in college got married, many of whom to their college boyfriends. A large portion of men I met in college married other women from the school. Of course, I was going to Christian schools that emphasized marriage but regardless it was still happening left and right. Ring before spring was definitely a thing. The holidays were filled with engagement photos on Facebook. Makes me wonder if these guys ever witnessed college campuses in springtime. For me personally, I'm college educated, young, and single but I'm pretty comfortable with that because my worth isn't defined by being attached to another individual. 

[EowynW]

I hope all of them burn in hell. I'm literally to that point now. 

[quiversR4hunting]

On ‎9‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 9:58 PM, CatholicLite said:

Why is social justice a thing that is so awful to some fundies? How does that go against God? I'm confused.

Well it is in the Gospel of Matthew 5 (the Beatitudes) and not in any of the epistles by Paul. I think that is the answer. If Paul didn't say it then by golly, they aren't goin' follow it. (Also in Matthew 5 - I find it interesting that Jesus says if you (obviously the person lusting) lust at a woman, you are to cut out the eye. Not tell the woman to wear a burka or turtleneck or not show her elbows, or to blur the knees when wakeboarding on tv, or wear street clothes in pools when the sign says otherwise, etc.

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On to women not being made in God's image. Ironically, one of the homily's this weekend (I went to 2 different masses, 2 different priests) - 1 priest focused on the fact that God took the rib out of Adam to make Eve. He said he (God) didn't take the leg bone out to make the man over the woman and make the woman submissive to the man, and he didn't take the bone out of the head to make the woman more intelligent than the man  - God took the bone out of the rib which is closest to the heart to make him love her with all his heart and her him and they to be united as 1 and they are to be equals.

[KatBonD]

For years Lori has said that a woman should seek help if physical abuse happens in the marriage. I don't find these words encouraging from her at all though. The problem is that she does not believe that there is any room for divorce in marriage. So, while it's okay for a woman to seek help for physical abuse, she must always remain married to her abuser. (edited to add) Also, she has never been supportive when domestic violence resource hotline numbers have been provided to readers on FB. She deleted it every time.

That she's adding emotional abuse as a reason to seek help is new and quite surprising. She's been of the mindset that women over exaggerate emotional abuse.

[Howl]

10 hours ago, onemama said:

and I’m a handsome man

 I recently overcame a porn habit, and I was even into prostitution.

What woman wouldn't want to hook up with this guy to father her children?  None of these guys has any idea of what his life would be like after, oh, 9 or 10 kids, or even five or six. 

[molecule]

Good grief.  She's complaining about masturbation again. All this time, Lori has been saying women need men to provide for them. Turns out that what she meant to say is that the only reason we need men is for sexual pleasure.

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[Lgirlrocks]

Lori has kindly informed us that because women work most men can’t find work to provide for their families. 

[SongRed7]

18 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

Lori has kindly informed us that because women work most men can’t find work to provide for their families. 

yeah...that post had me all ragey today.  I think I recognize the blog post as mostly the content of a reply from one of her MGTOW friends from many posts ago.  Does she/he honestly think that if women just wholesale up and quit their jobs tomorrow that things would be better? The economy would tank. That's what would happen. There aren't enough men (even if they were qualified to do some of the jobs that would then be available) to replace all the women currently in the workforce.   

The current US unemployment rate is around 3.9%.  That doesn't just represent men. According to US Department of Labor, women make up about 47% of the workforce, men 53%.   So its simple math, Lori.  If 47% of all workers walked away, there aren't enough men left to backfill those positions.  They aren't taking anyone's jobs. The are co-existing.   There would be shortages of goods and services, long lines in stores,  classroom sizes in schools would be HUGE, and let's talk about healthcare. 

Healthcare (my field) would be particularly hard hit...because there are many professions that are still predominantly women (like nurses, social working)..Here's a chart I found.  How many of those MGTOW guys are lining up to be dental hygienists or speech pathologists?  Not saying men can't do that job, just most aren't.  Food for thought. 

 

 

[AlwaysDiscerning]

If you think her post today fires you up...wait till you see her IG....this will surely be the afternoon post and I think it will go viral. 

https://thingsgodlywomensay.wordpress.com/2018/09/10/when-the-modest-and-meek-talk-about-masturbation/

[Seahorse Wrangler]

Going viral is about the only thing she cares about these days.

[SongRed7]

OH DEAR LORD!   Female masturbation does NOT cause "lesbianism"   It doesn't Lori. It just doesn't. 

[polecat]

13 hours ago, onemama said:

 woman who waits til their 30s to consider marriage (focusing on feminist careerism and/or the hookup sex carousel) forget several other things, crucial things.

First is, why would a man who has the financial success and attractiveness levels they want marry her? He has money already, and doesn’t need hers. She can’t give him children 

He got accustomed to doing without her in his life, and she has very little she could now add to it.

So, that rare* top Alpha man that all the near-menopausal career harridans want, he’s not going to marry them.

The 30s are "near menopausal"? Nah. I had only just started having kids in my 30s, lol. 

But why would a man want to marry a specific woman? Well, believe it or not Mr. Misogynistic Asshole Commenter, some men don't marry solely for money or for children. Some do it for companionship. They genuinely (shocking, I know) enjoy the company of that woman.

1 hour ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

If you think her post today fires you up...wait till you see her IG....this will surely be the afternoon post and I think it will go viral. 

https://thingsgodlywomensay.wordpress.com/2018/09/10/when-the-modest-and-meek-talk-about-masturbation/

Whoops! 

How on earth is this even remotely modest?!

[delphinium65]

1 hour ago, Seahorse Wrangler said:

Going viral is about the only thing she cares about these days.

That's called being an attention whore.  Hey, Lori, if you read this (and I bet you will)...if the shoe fits...! 

[dairyfreelife]

I never really understand the religious being against masturbation. Spill seed, blah bah blah, but seriously, seems so much better than actual sexual relationships for the non-married. No risk of babies which means no abortions or birth control need and no STDs to risk either. No one is being harmed by it, no forced marriage to be miserable just for sex. Seems like a win-win, but of course it's really about controlling everyone's sexual actions into one neat package. It's not really about "sin", but about controlling others. 

[TeddyBonkers]

Slightly OT, but I am prepping and packing up for a possible evacuation (thank you Hurricane Florence), and to amuse myself I am getting into the "Lori Alexander Biblical Woman" mindset:

"I have packed up all my $400 worth of organic, made-from-virgin-tear makeup and lotions, what do I do now?"

"What do you MEAN Aldi is all out of Einkhorn bread? I refuse to eat this white swill!"

"Is this bottled water from a godly source?"

"I should probably pack my husband's medals and awards, but there's just no room in the suitcase with all these unsold copies of my book."

"That voice telling me I am a capable woman and can decide to move the guns in case the house floods is just SATAN. Better call my husband."

"If I buy wine to drink and don't tell my thousands of followers (I went viral you know), I can still be super judgy if they drink right?"

[SuperNova]

So much crazy in Loriland today. Jeff sweeps in to mansplain why lactating women in the workforce are bad. He's given it a lot of thought and came up with an astoundingly Jeff-centric system of logic.

Then we have the masturbation is bad doodle. Lori and an older godly woman were sitting around talking about young girls masturbating. Let that sink in for a moment. 

[freealljs]

Hmm, I take a Lori-land break and see she is fat-shaming and writing about masturbation.  

She seems very invested in masturbation, male and female.  I wonder what happened in her world.  

I see the pattern is very strong in Lori:  someone does something that she doesn't like (breastfeed, tell daughters that they can be successful, masturbate (maybe someone she knows was discussing it or she saw Ken masturbating), Ken flirting or having a meaningful conversation with whom she considers an obese woman), and voila, it's fodder for her blog/IG/doodles.  I'd hate to be a neighbor or acquaintance of hers.  No sharing secrets with Lori.  

[kmachete14]

Frome ages 9-16 I prayed every night God would stop me from masturbating. Plus, I didn't even know other girls did it because Jason Evert (look him up, he's awful) did a presentation at my high school and only mentioned boys masturbating (girls just traded love for sex because apparently teenage girls don't actually like to have sex). I was literally horny ALL THE DAMN TIME. 

Now I'm 25 and literally don't even think about doing it unless I literally put it on a to-do list because my fiancé is gone and I'm bored or something. I can't imagine the dumb decision I would make if I tried to marry someone at 18 just to stop myself . . . 

I do understand (but think it's dumb) the theology behind not masturbating. If your sexuality is a gift for your spouse and no one else, than the only person you should engage in sexual acts with is them, and plus you should only do sexual things for God's design which is pleasure, bonding, and procreation, and plus masturbation often requires lust.

But I find it comical that a random part of your body must not be touched until you are married (imagine if someone said don't touch your third knuckle until you are married no matter what) and then once you're married viola you can. I find it terrifying how many teenagers might live with horrible guilt at this moment. I am sure glad I'm no longer a Christian and don't have to deal with any kinds of interpretation at all!

 

[smittykins]

"I think that if God wanted us not to masturbate, He'd have made our arms shorter."-- George Carlin