Lori Alexander 39: Civilization breaks down because...women

[fluffy]

Lori is losing control over her crowd!! Oh how delightful. She posted a long screed to the effect of it's not godly for men to subscribe to modesty commands because they were written to women. You know her old spiel that women are not visual and so don't stumble due to seeing a buff topless dude at the beach. So therefore her sons don't need to cover up at the beach. BUT she hates speedos so they should not wear those. Tons of women have responded that they disagree.

One woman confessed that she is attracted to hot guys on the beach and Lori employs a bit of logic that you know MIGHT also apply to men: "if you know you have this problem, then you shouldn't go to beaches, pools, or lakes because the majority of men won't have shirts on. I know some men won't go to any of these places because most women wear bikinis. Shirtless men do nothing for me and never have." 

The woman is a robot. Her counter is always some version of "I've never experienced that so what you say is wrong." She has no ability to empathize, listen or learn. Or apply logic. She is SEVERELY limited in her thinking. I think that's a diplomatic way to put it. 

[AlwaysDiscerning]

She asks are homeschooling moms arrogant? Why yes they are as she just proves here. She fancies herself a great writer now, I guess! 

[dairyfreelife]

19 minutes ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

Typical response!! The bible is also silent on women bloggers. 

 

A woman says her son has disabilities so she takes advantage of the public school resources. Lindy says no excuse, you should still homeschool. 

Lori, you dunce, throughout most of history, only the wealthy got an education at all. Most children were not taught by their parents. They were not educated at all. For most of history, the majority of the populace was not even literate. Wealthy children with an education were not taught by their parents either. They had tutors educated in their subjects or went to a school or institution for learning, sometimes far away from their parents for much of the year. Kinda what we would call a boarding school today. In most of modern history, parents have not educated their children at home either. If they could, they went to a school. Not at home. If they could not attend school and had a literate parent who desired to educate them, they would be lucky. If not, well, forget it. 

In most of history, even wealthy girls were not educated or were barely educated. Rare exceptions did exist though, mostly among the royals and highest class of women. Since sons were not guaranteed and wanted heirs to stay in the family, daughters could be well-educated for their time. But am sure that suits Lori just fine. Women don't need an education anyway and should just go back to that time, am I right? 

[usmcmom]

We live in a very small town where everyone knows everyone's business; but I never really minded because my business is typically quite boring.  People also tend ro know if you go to church and where. 

One day, my husband and I were walking down the hall at our kids elementary school; we were on our way to a class program. Our son's former teacher saw us and stopped to chat. As we were moving on, she said "Could I ask you to pray for me?" Then she shared a recent diagnosis she'd received. We listened and, of course, agreed to pray for her. 

BUT THEN!! Some big burly men - officers of the Non-God Squad swooped in and manhandled all of us; dragging us to the clink for talking about God in a public school. They hit us on our heads with books about evolution and threatened to burn our Bibles!!!  Then they made us look at porn and threatened to turn us all gay!!  

Heh. Not really. We went on our way and later added this teacher to our church's prayer list. Later we learned the diagnosis had been incorrect, thankfully. 

I think Lori and her mean girls believe scenarios like that happen, though. 

[jerkit]

10 minutes ago, fluffy said:

Lori is losing control over her crowd!! Oh how delightful. She posted a long screed to the effect of it's not godly for men to subscribe to modesty commands because they were written to women.

Where was this?

[mango_fandango]

The main route to a teaching qualification is the PGCE, Postgraduate Certificate in Education. So you have a degree before you start. To be a primary school teacher (ages 4/5-11) you will learn to be able to be a class teacher in all years, plus you do a specialism module, eg Primary English or Primary Maths or Primary Science etc. I remember knowing that a few of the teachers in my primary school were subject specialists, ie they helped coordinate the maths/science/whichever curriculum for the whole school. The teacher I had in year 6 (5th grade equivalent) used to teach year 2 (1st grade age equivalent). 

Secondary is different, you qualify to be able to teach a certain subject, as you have different teachers for each subject like I guess you do in the US. If you want to teach a language, you usually have to have a second language too, so if you wanna teach French you’d have to have German or Spanish too, as language teachers often teach two languages (teaching French to the whole school, and Spanish to years 7-9 (grades 6-8) as an example).

[usmcmom]

May I, pretty please, just leave this right here?  It talks about Jesus learning and "growing in wisdom."  It can be found in Luke chapter two. Lori may have missed it since it is not one of Paul's letters; nor is it in the book of Titus. 

[cindyluvs24]

Her latest post has her quoting a man's site that complains that American women gain weight, cut their hair etc.   I'd like Dorothy Hamill to show up one day and clonk her on the head.  

[Loveday]

4 minutes ago, dairyfreelife said:

Lori, you dunce, throughout most of history, only the wealthy got an education at all. Most children were not taught by their parents. They were not educated at all. For most of history, the majority of the populace was not even literate. Wealthy children with an education were not taught by their parents either. They had tutors educated in their subjects or went to a school or institution for learning, sometimes far away from their parents for much of the year. Kinda what we would call a boarding school today. In most of modern history, parents have not educated their children at home either. If they could, they went to a school. Not at home. If they could not attend school and had a literate parent who desired to educate them, they would be lucky. If not, well, forget it. 

In most of history, even wealthy girls were not educated or were barely educated. Rare exceptions did exist though, mostly among the royals and highest class of women. Since sons were not guaranteed and wanted heirs to stay in the family, daughters could be well-educated for their time. But am sure that suits Lori just fine. Women don't need an education anyway and should just go back to that time, am I right? 

This is true, and I should have clarified in my own post that it was mostly boys who got any sort of education at all prior to the 19th century. And often, schools were more like apprenticeships, wherein boys would learn a smattering of reading, math, and writing along with their trade. Stonemasonry comes to mind, you need some rudimentary education in that trade. But there were day schools in most cities and towns, where for a fee, sons of the merchant classes might go for a few months a year to learn the basics. And a few would then go on to university if they showed aptitude or their parents could afford it. 

And then there was the practice, in the Middle Ages, of sending sons away from home to live with another family and learn the arts of war and knightly behaviour. Daughters were often sent away as well, to learn how to behave as ladies and to run a household. It was believed they could learn more from someone other than their own parents, and it was also done to forge connections between families. 

Of course, Lori's 'days of old' don't go that far back. She can't seem to go any farther than the 18th century, and gets even that wrong. She really is abysmally ignorant. 

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Finally, after three days they found Him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions.

And this, Lori, is the very definition of going to school. 

(sorry, couldn't seem to actually quote your post, @usmcmom )

[refugee]

48 minutes ago, Loveday said:

Laura Ingalls went to school, even though--gasp!--her mother was a teacher and could have taught her at home (which of course she did, but she insisted on school for her girls as well; it's probably the main reason Charles Ingalls finally settled down in De Smet after years of wandering around the country).

Y’know, I got the distinct impression while reading that series aloud to our kids that Laura’s mother did not feel her girls would get an adequate education at home, even though she had worked as a teacher.

[AlwaysDiscerning]

Ken comments ""I love Jessica's replies". What the hell is that about? I see no Jessica's on that thread.  And its just random like he has a crush. 

[AuntKrazy]

2 hours ago, refugee said:

And everyone who can do basic math is obviously equipped to teach themselves calculus!

Lindy Johnson is either gifted in math and does not have the imagination to realize not everyone else is, or her kids have not yet encountered algebra.

Exactly this.  Community colleges in Texas recently had to change policies and now limits a student to only 3 attempts at the SAME course.  If the person chooses to retake the class after that point, they have to pay 3 times normal tuition, and I don't believe they are allowed financial aid for the higher cost.  Mr. Krazy has an increasing amount of student (in Calc II, no less!) who enroll having "completed Calc I" in their HS home school curriculum and who do not belong in that class.  He had the worst Calc II performances in a recent exam - several As and Bs, but then over half of them did not even earn 40% on the exam.  

I believe that this is in part due to some (emphasis on some - not all!) home-school educated students who believe they are qualified to be in college algebra, or calc I, or even calc II but do not know how to learn when learning is dictated externally by the pace of a classroom setting.  It does not matter how politely a student addresses Mr. Krazy, if he/she earns less than a 20% on the first exam, that student is going to fail.  

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

3 hours ago, usmcmom said:

I really think an unspoken reason for these fundies to homeschool is to keep their kids away from the kids they consider riff raff.

And they consider riff-raff anyone who isn't Exactly. Like. Them -- fundie, insular, isolated, unimaginative, uneducated and proud of it

[Loveday]

27 minutes ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

Ken comments ""I love Jessica's replies". What the hell is that about? I see no Jessica's on that thread.  And its just random like he has a crush. 

Jessica is the person who actually wrote today's post. It's a comment she wrote in reply to another one of Lori's blog posts from about a month ago. I think Ken means he likes her replies to Lori's posts. He'll probably be asking for her address next so he can send her some M&Ms. 

[AlwaysDiscerning]

13 minutes ago, Loveday said:

Jessica is the person who actually wrote today's post. It's a comment she wrote in reply to another one of Lori's blog posts from about a month ago. I think Ken means he likes her replies to Lori's posts. He'll probably be asking for her address next so he can send her some M&Ms. 

Ohhhh thanks, I just skimmed the post. Duh!

[Loveday]

A MAN weighs in on yesterday's feminist bloviation:

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I am a feminist Christian. I believe men are [sic] women are equally created in the image of God. You said “if you love the Lord you will never call yourself a feminist.” That’s not biblical. Prove with the scriptures that a person’s Christian identity or salvation is dependent on believing women are subservient.

She'll delete it because she can't prove it with scriptures, and even if she could, they can't be found in Titus, so she wouldn't even know where to look.

[Alisamer]

2 hours ago, usmcmom said:

May I, pretty please, just leave this right here?  It talks about Jesus learning and "growing in wisdom."  It can be found in Luke chapter two. Lori may have missed it since it is not one of Paul's letters; nor is it in the book of Titus. 

THANK YOU! I knew that I remembered there being a story that specifically mentioned Jesus studying in the temple with the teachers there. Of course, this story doesn't contain much she can use to browbeat her readers with, so I'm not surprised she just skipped over this bit. It's even his MOTHER who is the one who scolds Jesus, rather than meekly letting Joseph do the disciplining.

I also found myself thinking about Jesus just staying behind, leaving his parents to spend days looking for him. Can you imagine if they lived in our time? There'd be a tearful press conference and an Amber Alert, and posters up everywhere. I wonder if they were frantic and frightened, or if they were like "Seriously Jesus, son of God or not, you need to TELL US where you are going because we are your parents here right now!"

[delphinium65]

8 minutes ago, Loveday said:

A MAN weighs in on yesterday's feminist bloviation:

She'll delete it because she can't prove it with scriptures, and even if she could, they can't be found in Titus, so she wouldn't even know where to look.

But if she deletes it, she's overruling what a MAN says.  Wouldn't that be exercising AUTHORITY over a MAN, by her rules?  The only appropriate thing for her to do is call on her owner husband to take care of that nasty feminist man!  

[AuntKrazy]

@Alisamer

Obviously Jesus was NOT raised according to Lori's favorite "To Train Up A Child" principles.  If He had only been disciplined correctly, He would never have done that!  <sarc>

[Loveday]

Just now, delphinium65 said:

But if she deletes it, she's overruling what a MAN says.  Wouldn't that be exercising AUTHORITY over a MAN, by her rules?  The only appropriate thing for her to do is call on her owner husband to take care of that nasty feminist man!  

 I'm sure Ken is saddling up his Horse of Truth even as we speak. 

[smittykins]

1 hour ago, Alisamer said:

*snip*

I also found myself thinking about Jesus just staying behind, leaving his parents to spend days looking for him. Can you imagine if they lived in our time? There'd be a tearful press conference and an Amber Alert, and posters up everywhere. I wonder if they were frantic and frightened, or if they were like "Seriously Jesus, son of God or not, you need to TELL US where you are going because we are your parents here right now!"

I believe it was in Teresa Bloomingdale's I Should Have Seen It Coming When The Rabbit Died that she imagines Mary telling Jesus, "Let's not tell Grandma about this, OK?"

[feministxtian]

3 hours ago, AuntKrazy said:

Mr. Krazy has an increasing amount of student (in Calc II, no less!) who enroll having "completed Calc I" in their HS home school curriculum and who do not belong in that class.  He had the worst Calc II performances in a recent exam - several As and Bs, but then over half of them did not even earn 40% on the exam.  

Mr. Krazy should be glad he never had me. The one and only test I took in Calc 1 I got an 18% on it. A's and B's all the way thru pre-Calc...Calc 1...oh HELL NO! Two attempts and twice realizing that I didn't have the foggiest notion of what the teacher was saying...why I don't have that BSME. 

[Briefly]

7 hours ago, Frog99 said:

I hate how Lindy has decided already what her girls will be. I am absolutely not knocking women choosing to stay home (although they should be educated IMO), or those that choose to homeschool, etc. What I have issue with is the deciding for. It completely ignores any gifts or talents her daughters may have, completely removes independence, free will, and choice, and promotes a cycle of low education as well as the potential for oppression. And it’s such a complete double standard for boys. 

I can’t imagine telling my smart, feisty, independent daughter that her only choice is to stay home and raise children and submit to her husband. It goes against everything I have worked to cultivate in her and quite frankly it pisses me off. 

I can pretty much imagine what my daughter would say, she's about as independent as it gets. She was raised to think for herself and we taught her everything we possibly could. Women like Lori are infuriating.

[Lgirlrocks]

My mom is great at grammar. She found errors in my papers that professionals at my college missed. They had people there that checked papers. Some professors required you to use them. I on the other had suck at grammar and it was my mother who taught my two brothers and I. She poured all of her energy into teaching my older brother and taking him to classes and sports stuff. She said she didn’t have the time to do that for all of us. I begged my mom to go out for school. I loved learning but from a young age I knew my education wasn’t what it should be. It was easier for my mom to have us all at home then to have to make sure we all got to school on time and take us to extra activities. I was supposed to be teaching myself by reading the lesson then doing it. My mo  didn’t home school for religious reasons. She went to a home school even and was impressed that young kids new how to talk to her, an adult. I struggled in college and public school because of not being home schooled correctly. The public school system I attended for three years was 5 years behind in their education and got decredited. 

[AuntKrazy]

1 hour ago, feministxtian said:

Mr. Krazy should be glad he never had me. The one and only test I took in Calc 1 I got an 18% on it. A's and B's all the way thru pre-Calc...Calc 1...oh HELL NO! Two attempts and twice realizing that I didn't have the foggiest notion of what the teacher was saying...why I don't have that BSME. 

If there were a hug emoticon I would use it here. My husband would have simply wanted to help you find a way to achieve your dreams. The students that bother him are the ones who can't grasp that they don't understand. It's that those who get less than a 20 didn't even email him for additional help, and are still going to class when they could have dropped.