Kendra and Joe Duggar 7: Not Pregnant Yet - Oops They Are Expecting

[mtc3659]

When I worked in a grocery store, one of my coworkers went to hospital because of bad stomach cramps and came out with a baby. She had recently had her first baby and I guess she wasn't very careful. But both her sons are healthy (at least they were when I last talked to her). And I got overnight hours and worked extra hours while she took some time off. 

[justoneoftwo]

I think they are DINKs but would deny it.  Jinjer gets payed to be on TLC.

[Rachel333]

I feel like if there were even a chance I could be pregnant I would want to be absolutely sure I was not. I guess there are a lot of women though who aren't actively trying to get pregnant but are okay with it if it happens. Even then I feel like I would at least like to know what is or is not in my uterus, but obviously other women feel differently!

There was a story where a woman was training for a half-marathon and after running for two hours she started having back pain. It got so bad that she went to the ER, where she found out she was pregnant and gave birth to a 6lb 6oz baby girl. Her husband had gotten a vasectomy, she never missed periods, and she even lost weight during the pregnancy.

On another note, when I was trying to find that story I encountered some... interesting search predictions. 

[allthegoodnamesrgone]

2 hours ago, VeryNikeSeamstress said:

I don't think Jeremy is intentionally keeping Jinger away, or that she's unhappy. If anything she seemed less happy as an eyerolling teenager in the TTH. As for not making it to every wedding/birthday/etc, this seems like normal behaviour for a young adults starting out in a new city. Jeremy has a job outside of TLC, and can't just hop on a plane at the drop of the hat. I think Jinger likes babies, but she's never been as fixated on them as her mother and sisters. 

Instagram only shows carefully edited and curated moments of people's lives, and we'll never truly know how Jinger feels, but I'm not seeing a bored housewife who misses her big family. I think she'd like it if Jessa moved closer to her, but doesn't miss the pandemonium of big family life.

Liking OTHER peoples babies is very different than wanting your own.  My daughter LOVES babies but doesn't want one, she's 17, I'm guessing that will most likely change.  I never wanted kids at all until I was about 25 then, I was like some day, not knowing that a year and a half later I'd be pregnant, we weren't expecting it that quickly.  I was 27 when my 1st was born.

My daughter will graduate high school this year and wants to be either a Dentist or an Orthodontist, so she has 8 to 9 years of schooling ahead of her and I'm fine with her waiting until AFTER dental school to marry and have babies, that still only puts her at 27 before her 1st baby at the earliest.  That isn't too young IMO since I WAS 27, but I can see her waiting even longer.  Jinger JUST turned 24, I can see her having a baby in the next year or 2 but I can also see her waiting another year or 2. I have a feeling her 1st pregnancy will be a result of failed birth control, and the adamancy against abortion means they will happily have a baby.

[cascarones]

To add another wrinkle to the unexpected pregnancy and fear of religious repercussions/ family shame there were several girls in my study abroad program to Europe who went to have their pregnancies terminated without their families knowing.  Two of the girls were from Notre Dame and one girl’s Dad found out since she used her student insurance, flew out in a rage and caused probably the most cringeworthy beratement I’ve ever witnessed in the school courtyard. We couldn’t escape it since our classroom was lining it and it was just so so awful.

It turns out it was a fairly common thing, but it still makes me sad thinking about it and the huge impact it had on her life.

[SamiKatz]

1 hour ago, justoneoftwo said:

I think they are DINKs but would deny it.  Jinjer gets payed to be on TLC.

True, I wasn't thinking of that cash.

[MakeItSo]

the company my dad works for always puts on these family days. You know, BBQ or whatever, basically bring-your-family-to-work day. All the kids hang out and all the parents, too, etc. So, one of his coworkers had a really nice wife and she was always super involved with the organizing of these family events back then. I was around 15 and wanted to get some volunteer hours, so I said something like, "so, do you want me to come over tomorrow to help out with the decorations?" and she looked at me and said, "oh no, I'm having a scheduled c-section tomorrow, but why don't you come over next weekend?"  I froze for the tiniest portion of a second. I mean, this woman was not the skinniest but I just had not noticed any changes over the past year and we saw her and her husband and 1.5 yr old son quite frequently...I'm usually pretty good at just rolling with it, so I did the ol', "Oh yeah, duh. Of course, hahaha", but holy Rufus...

[acheronbeach]

9 hours ago, cascarones said:

 Two of the girls were from Notre Dame and one girl’s Dad found out since she used her student insurance,

WTF.  An adult's medical history gets specifically disclosed to her parents because she's paid for by their plan?  Is this normal?   

[Georgiana]

5 minutes ago, acheronbeach said:

WTF.  An adult's medical history gets specifically disclosed to her parents because she's paid for by their plan?  Is this normal?   

It's not specific, but a policy holder also has the right to see everything billed against their policy. That's important because otherwise no one would ever be able to contest a claim. 

It doesn't give the exact procedure, but sometimes the date of the claim, the billing office , and the high level category of the procedure is enough to put two and two together.

[LacyMay]

14 hours ago, PVMom said:

They are young, DINKS they should be able to get back for every wedding and get together.   He strictly limits her access to her family.   I think if it were up to Jinger she'd be around more, her sisters are her best friends, she's living down in Waco bored I'm guessing, Jeremy is always out at his low paying preacher job

So first off how can you say that because they are dual income they should be able to travel back for every wedding and get together and then 3 sentences later refer to his job as low paying? (And income aside if he is "always out" at his job wouldn't that make it *harder* to drop everything and return for every wedding and get together ? Let's say they did /do the Joken wedding, thanksgiving, The Bates wedding, Christmas and a trip once Joy gives birth that's 5 trips in 7 months (and 3 of those are in like 1 month) that's a lot of time of work and travel $ even for dual income and no kids. 

 

With that out of the way I also think that it's a slippery slope to be accusing Jeremy of "strictly limiting her access to her family" it's one thing to say that he might not like duggars and prefers not to spend oodles of time with them (both of which are just being used to illustrate my point and are examples not speculation) but to say he intentionally limits her access has some pretty dark connotations since that's a big warning sign of spousal abuse. 

[nastyhobbitses]

Regarding "young DINKs should be able to get back for every family get-together": I'm a...SINK (?) (I live with three roommates, going to move out to a one-bedroom in an entirely new country next month) and because of my work obligations, I have had to miss some family stuff. Not everything, but some things. Getting paid trumps a relative's wedding if I'm not very close to that relative (I have a very, very large extended family I barely know, and then my aunts, uncles, and first cousins to whom I'm very close). In all likelihood, Jeremy had some speaking engagements and Jinger wanted to come along, and she figured that she wasn't particularly close to Tori and may have been wedding'd out (or, to build on some rumors about her and Lawson, she didn't want to deal with Lawson being weird and awkward because he wanted to front-hug dat ass and then Jeremy swooped in). 

Or Jeremy is an abusive monster. Anything is possible. 

[Kaylo]

I remember a year ago or so, there was talk that Kendra's younger sister was "friends" with one of the Duggar boys.   I think it was Jerimiah or Josiah.    She also came along with their Dad to Kendra's engagement surprise.   She would still be 17 I think.   Probably they wouldn't go for a courtship before she's 18.
I have the sense that Michele is a lot more involved in parenting now that the older girls are gone.   I think the Duggar kids love it when their cousins come over.   The Duggar house is like the funny party house.   Lots of Birthday parties, Valentine's Parties always a big get together.   There might be rifts here and there, I think Jeremy can't stand the whole Duggar thing and that's sad because Jiner is so close to her sisters.   He intentionally keeps her away.   They are young, DINKS they should be able to get back for every wedding and get together.   He strictly limits her access to her family.   I think if it were up to Jinger she'd be around more, her sisters are her best friends, she's living down in Waco bored I'm guessing, Jeremy is always out at his low paying preacher job and she's bored and wishes she was with her sisters and she loves babies so she's wishing she was with them and all their new babies.   Jeremy jerk keeps her away.
The only thing I want to see next season is Joy and Austin's house all fixed up!    I want to see what he did with that.   It will be so boring if it's another season of wedding planning.   I think Kendra's wedding planning would make for terribly boring TV.   
 

I see no evidence of this. I don’t think he’s keeping her away.

[SassyPants]

Didn't J/J request 6 months of no family  visits after their marriage? Maybe they have come to a joint decision regarding the amount of family contact that they will have?

Mega families and fundies in particular, have some strange, strange dynamics: Little kids as caretakers and second parents, adult kids given the same freedoms as toddlers, zero privacy, no friends, group think, no individual interests and on and on. 

Maybe J/J have bigger, personal, space  bubbles...I do, and living in the Duggar Cult would have driven me out of my mind. The Vuolos just might need more personal space. If so,  good for them!

[KelseyAnn]

On 12/22/2017 at 12:35 PM, PVMom said:

I remember a year ago or so, there was talk that Kendra's younger sister was "friends" with one of the Duggar boys.   I think it was Jerimiah or Josiah.    She also came along with their Dad to Kendra's engagement surprise.   She would still be 17 I think.   Probably they wouldn't go for a courtship before she's 18.

I have the sense that Michele is a lot more involved in parenting now that the older girls are gone.   I think the Duggar kids love it when their cousins come over.   The Duggar house is like the funny party house.   Lots of Birthday parties, Valentine's Parties always a big get together.   There might be rifts here and there, I think Jeremy can't stand the whole Duggar thing and that's sad because Jiner is so close to her sisters.   He intentionally keeps her away.   They are young, DINKS they should be able to get back for every wedding and get together.   He strictly limits her access to her family.   I think if it were up to Jinger she'd be around more, her sisters are her best friends, she's living down in Waco bored I'm guessing, Jeremy is always out at his low paying preacher job and she's bored and wishes she was with her sisters and she loves babies so she's wishing she was with them and all their new babies.   Jeremy jerk keeps her away.

The only thing I want to see next season is Joy and Austin's house all fixed up!    I want to see what he did with that.   It will be so boring if it's another season of wedding planning.   I think Kendra's wedding planning would make for terribly boring TV.   

 

Okay, I have more than 50 cousins and there is no way in hell I would ever go to all those weddings, births, funerals, and what not. It's not fair to expect Jinger and Jeremy to drop everything either to go to what must be dozens of weddings/births a year- especially not when they're in a different state and Jeremey works. Also, I don't think Jinger enjoyed EVERY sister's company. If that's the case, she still skypes, texts with the sister's she does like. 

[singsingsing]

I think it's insane to expect Jinger and Jeremy to travel to every flipping event. They live in Texas. Her family lives in Arkansas. His family lives in New England. Their friends live all over the place. It's just not feasible. And just because they have two incomes and no kids DOES NOT mean that they can afford to be travelling every other weekend. Jinger's TLC income would not make her rich. Jeremy I'm sure does NOT earn a significant wage working at his tiny church. The very fact that he has an actual job means that he can't be constantly on the road. I'm sure he can have someone take over for him a few Sundays out of the year, but he couldn't make it a regular occurrence. 

I criticize Jeremy a lot, but I've never seen any indication whatsoever that he's limiting Jinger's access to her family or friends. Not at all. 

[MissAquarius]

I had a tubal after my 2nd son. I suffer from horrible (as in I will be hospitalized mutiple times during the pregnancy) HG, so I didn't want to deal with that again. My period is crazy irregular, so it's not reliable in determining if I'm pregnant.

So about 6 years ago, I start dealing with what I thought was a nasty stomach bug. After a two weeks, I see my primary. She knows about my HG and runs a pee pregnancy test. Negative. So she refers me to a gastroenterologist. No opening to see the specialist for 3 more months. A month later, I end up at the sucky local hospital severely dehydrated. My HG during pregnancy is in my records there. They run pee and blood pregnancy tests. Negative. They send me home with some Zofran. A month after that, I make sure I go to the good hospital 40 miles away when my dehydration got bad. This hospital also had my HG on record. Before any of the tests come back, the lovely PA sent me for an ultrasound.

I was nearly 16 weeks pregnant with my youngest. One of my tubes had reconnected. The lab tests were still negative. After 5 years of knowing that kid, I wouldn't be shocked if I found out he was conceived out of sheer stubbornness.

I didn't have my tubal redone because I'm an idiot. Since then, I've had two scares. Kidney stones hurt worse than unmedicated labor and I got to the point where I wouldn't have been shocked if a baby popped out. Then all the vomiting that came with my gallbladder going nuclear. I tried to make the ultrasound tech check my uterus, but she'd already confirmed what the cause of my problem was.

[lumpentheologie]

I had no idea it was so common to have false negatives on pregnancy tests.  That's terrifying. 

[Georgiana]

My therapist is CONSTANTLY encouraging me to attend FEWER family events. Don't get me wrong, family is really important to me, but at a certain point too many family events start to impede your ability to live YOUR life. 

Every event Jinger doesn't attend is a weekend she gives back to herself, is money she can use to travel where she wants, and is hassle she doesn't have to bear. Sure, you do this too much it gets selfish, but she's not there yet. She is very entitled to put HER life first. 

'I don't want to go' is a perfectly valid reason for not attending anything as an adult. You don't need anything else.

[Sky with diamonds]

7 hours ago, Kaylo said:

 

I see no evidence of this. I don’t think he’s keeping her away.

[Sky with diamonds]

7 hours ago, SassyPants said:

Didn't J/J request 6 months of no family  visits after their marriage? Maybe they have come to a joint decision regarding the amount of family contact that they will have?

Mega families and fundies in particular, have some strange, strange dynamics: Little kids as caretakers and second parents, adult kids given the same freedoms as toddlers, zero privacy, no friends, group think, no individual interests and on and on. 

Maybe J/J have bigger, personal, space  bubbles...I do, and living in the Duggar Cult would have driven me out of my mind. The Vuolos just might need more personal space. If so,  good for them!

I think Jinger requested it. I remember it very well, because it shocked me. Especially considering how close Jinger and Jessa were. I was shocked in a good way, because there is nothing wrong with Jinger and Jeremy wanting tie for themselves...if I were Jinger I would have said the same thing. To be so assertive is not like Jinger, but it's proof to me, she is at least growing a backbone. Yay for Jinger.

To me, it seems Jinger and Jeremy are very happy together. I have high hopes for them, and if I'm wrong, I will eat my hat. 

[VelociRapture]

5 hours ago, singsingsing said:

I think it's insane to expect Jinger and Jeremy to travel to every flipping event. They live in Texas. Her family lives in Arkansas. His family lives in New England. Their friends live all over the place. It's just not feasible. And just because they have two incomes and no kids DOES NOT mean that they can afford to be travelling every other weekend. Jinger's TLC income would not make her rich. Jeremy I'm sure does NOT earn a significant wage working at his tiny church. The very fact that he has an actual job means that he can't be constantly on the road. I'm sure he can have someone take over for him a few Sundays out of the year, but he couldn't make it a regular occurrence. 

I criticize Jeremy a lot, but I've never seen any indication whatsoever that he's limiting Jinger's access to her family or friends. Not at all. 

I believe Jeremy’s parents are in Maryland, Valerie (I believe) is in New Jersey, and I’m not sure about Charles. I know he works in documentaries and film, but I don’t know where he is based. Regardless, at least three members of Jeremy’s family are not located in New England. They are, however, located in various parts of the Eastern seaboard though. 

(Sorry. Lifelong New Englander here.  )

[Knight of Ni]

I have heard of false negatives before but never of having a false positive. Has any one else heard of one? Just asking out of curiosity.

[Jana814]

Just now, Knight of Ni said:

I have heard of false negatives before but never of having a false positive. Has any one else heard of one? Just asking out of curiosity.

I have heard of false positives. Their not common but they do happen. 

[ViolaSebastian]

4 minutes ago, Jana814 said:

I have heard of false positives. Their not common but they do happen. 

I know that sometimes ovarian cysts can cause false positives. I also recall that if you're taking certain hormones (as in, trigger shots for ovulation and so on) that can cause false positives as well. 

[allthegoodnamesrgone]

Another reason JinJer didn't go to the weeding it is an 18 hour drive, or they would have to fly rent a car and all that, it is very expensive, for a wedding of someone you are "kind of" friends with.