Anna, Josh, and the M-Kids, Part 10: Genes and Bedsheets

[SassyPants]

4 hours ago, Four is Enough said:

Oddly enough, that's why I'd choose to be Priscilla. She seems, in her.. challenged state... to be oblivious of the tribulations in her cult and family. She seems the most content. So if I'd have to be there, I'd be her. Anna WANTS to be content but can't quite make it.. so Priscilla for the win.

It's called bliss- Anna does not have bliss.

[season of life]

I truly pity Esther Shrader's situation. She is not physically safe and has so many kids to look after while her husband tries to play missionary. I would have to go with Priscilla because she only has 3 kids as opposed to 5 and at least David is sort of cute.

[lomo6]

15 hours ago, Four is Enough said:

Oddly enough, that's why I'd choose to be Priscilla. She seems, in her.. challenged state... to be oblivious of the tribulations in her cult and family. She seems the most content. So if I'd have to be there, I'd be her. Anna WANTS to be content but can't quite make it.. so Priscilla for the win.

This is so accurate, in a sad way. The fundie lifestyle works much better for women if they're not inclined to self-reflection and self-doubt. 

[socalrules]

On 4/25/2017 at 0:11 PM, Chickenbutt said:

I wonder if the courts will have a live feed if and when this goes to trial? Was the suit filed in Los Angeles? Meaning Josh will have to travel to LA to answer the charges? Hmmmm, may have to do some sleuthing.

I highly doubt any trial will be televised If it is a state civil case and it would be rare to do so. I have never even seen it done in California. If it was filed in federal court, it will definitely not be televised. Also, since it is a civil case, other than being present to testify if called, Josh wouldn't have to attend. Josh also isn't answer charges because he isn't charged with anything in  civil case. No way is this case going to trial. The guy needs to just take some money from Josh and run. I just don't see how he will be able to prove before a jury his life has been so ruined as he has claimed by Josh using his picture. We may dislike Josh but that doesn't make this other guy's case stronger. There isn't going to be a windfall coming his way. I would also be surprised if any trial lasted more than a day or two. 

[Kangaroo]

12 minutes ago, socalrules said:

We may dislike Josh but that doesn't make this other guy's case stronger. There isn't going to be a windfall coming his way. I would also be surprised if any trial lasted more than a day or two. 

If the case gets more publicity, media outlets might become interested. Selling his  'Josh Duggar ruined my life using my image' story after a "dramatic" court case and settlement could probably earn a decent sum.

It would not shock me to see a magazine article or tv interview after all the legal things are wrapped up.

[HarleyQuinn]

I'd be Priscilla because 1) I'd be too dumb to realize how ridiculous my life is. 2) TFDW probably doesn't demand as much in the "joyfully available" department and 3) Because at least I'm not in an RV with 12 people or married to a child molester. 

[danni9242]

Reading articles today about Josh's 'counselling': Is there a discussion somewhere on the 'insider' who feeds information? (Is it Duggar publicity spin, a person/people secretly spilling the beans or a fabricated figure to give articles more clout?)

[Unicorn]

I'd choose to be Priscilla because she has the better of the husbands.  I'm not sure what her mental state is.  She could be more competent than she appears.  I think gender roles she was raised with caused her to play up any mental challenges as a way to fit into her instructed gender role.  That doesn't sound fun.  For this reason I almost chose Esther, but again, Pris got the best of the three husbands.

[Georgiana]

If you watch videos of Pris before her marriage (she was on 19kids a few times), she doesn't seem "challenged" at all.  She seems perfectly normal and even a bit of a wit.  

All of this started after her marriage to David.  I think he put a LOT of pressure on her, and she was constantly spinning her wheels trying to anticipate his wants and be the perfect wife he wanted.  This ate up a lot of mental energy and caused hesitation, hence the slowness. 

I was in a relationship very similar once and definitely had many of the same features.  Dulled by depression and exhausted from constant overwork, my mental capacity seemed much less than it truly is. 

[TeamDefraudinSquad]

Full Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer.

I think the DJ might have a case for emotional damages if he has documentation from a psychiatrist indicating he suffered psychologically by being linked to Josh in the media. If he has written documentation  from potential clients where they said they wouldn't hire him due to the link to Josh, he may be able to claim financial damages as well. The DJ needs to have documentation of damages to claim any kind of damages though. I am not sure why the DJ's legal team is focusing on how many people Josh fooled around with instead of the extent the financial/emotional damages suffered by the DJ. I don't see how the quantity of the people Josh messed with is as relevant to the case as the actual damages the DJ suffered (if any...)

I also concur that I would rather be Pricilla than Anna or Esther, for all of the same reasons everyone else here mentioned. John and Josh are both awful, but David isn't quite as awful as those two are, IMO.

[Unicorn]

1 hour ago, Georgiana said:

If you watch videos of Pris before her marriage (she was on 19kids a few times), she doesn't seem "challenged" at all.  She seems perfectly normal and even a bit of a wit.  

All of this started after her marriage to David.  I think he put a LOT of pressure on her, and she was constantly spinning her wheels trying to anticipate his wants and be the perfect wife he wanted.  This ate up a lot of mental energy and caused hesitation, hence the slowness. 

I was in a relationship very similar once and definitely had many of the same features.  Dulled by depression and exhausted from constant overwork, my mental capacity seemed much less than it truly is. 

It's not the same situation, but I work 84+ hour work weeks a few times a year when work is short staffed, and my mental facilities drain so much when I have a week like that that all I can do at home is sleep, eat in bed, and talk in simple sentences about needing sleep.  And that's one week a few times a year, two weeks in a row at the most.

To be that pressured and tired with no break, if that's what's going on, must take mammoth strength.  I do think P was pressured to live up to gendered expectations, but this information does both challenge my opinion of her and give me more respect and sorrow for her.

[socalrules]

It will be hard to prove that the dJ lost work because of the scandal. It's one thing to have a contract ready to sign and the other party backed out because of the scandal. It is quite another to say you were in the running for a gig, along with others, but someone else got it so it must be because of all this mess. Emotional distress can be difficult to prove as in some states, you would have to prove that the defendant owed a duty to the plaintiff, and here, Josh would not owe a duty to the DJ. The guy likely doesn't facts to make big bucks on this. Further, if they reach a settlement, I can guarantee you there will be a confidentially provision in the settlement agreement where neither of the parties can discuss the case. 

[Jess]

 

22 minutes ago, socalrules said:

It will be hard to prove that the dJ lost work because of the scandal. It's one thing to have a contract ready to sign and the other party backed out because of the scandal. It is quite another to say you were in the running for a gig, along with others, but someone else got it so it must be because of all this mess. Emotional distress can be difficult to prove as in some states, you would have to prove that the defendant owed a duty to the plaintiff, and here, Josh would not owe a duty to the DJ. The guy likely doesn't facts to make big bucks on this. Further, if they reach a settlement, I can guarantee you there will be a confidentially provision in the settlement agreement where neither of the parties can discuss the case. 

I would assume the DJ has a few causes of action (I haven't read the complaint don't know if it's publically available). But in addition to emotional distress (which is a stretch) he has better claims for invasion of privacy and maybe portrayal in a false light depending on state case law (kind of a subset of defamation) plus of course he can always through in general negligence. 

[singsingsing]

I have no idea what the state of Priscilla's intellect is, but she has a fairly obvious speech impediment. People tend to unfairly assume that a speech impediment is indicative of some kind of cognitive issue, when in reality the two can be, and often are, completely unrelated.

[season of life]

Nothing is going to ever fully ruin Josh Duggar. The molestation scandal didn't cause a divorce or a custody battle. The escort lawsuit didn't cause him to fall out of favor with his family. This suit won't change anything either. I predict Josh will continue to be a moron and he will continue to have kids.

[nst]

12 hours ago, season of life said:

Nothing is going to ever fully ruin Josh Duggar. The molestation scandal didn't cause a divorce or a custody battle. The escort lawsuit didn't cause him to fall out of favor with his family. This suit won't change anything either. I predict Josh will continue to be a moron and he will continue to have kids.

we don't know if the current lawsuit hasn't caused some of the older marrieds to even talk to him anymore. 

Unless it's for Anna and the cameras.

I don't see any of the son in laws going out of there way to be part of Josh's team per say. 

 

[allthegoodnamesrgone]

13 hours ago, season of life said:

Nothing is going to ever fully ruin Josh Duggar. The molestation scandal didn't cause a divorce or a custody battle. The escort lawsuit didn't cause him to fall out of favor with his family. This suit won't change anything either. I predict Josh will continue to be a moron and he will continue to have kids.

And continue to cheat on his wife and blame her for his infidelity. 

@nst we don't see Josh on TV or much in the media, we don't know what the SILs are doing in regards to him. I would HOPE they would have nothing to do with him, I would hope his siblings have nothing to do with him. I wish Anna had nothing to do with him.  The Duggar's should toss his ass and keep Anna. 

[Four is Enough]

It does seem odd that the family who posts birthday and every other kind of salutations on YouTube would "miss" something as huge as the announcement of another "expecting" wife. Perhaps , behind the scenes, Josh is not repentant enough.. because while they're not perfect, they're for damn sure judgmental.

[lawlifelgbt]

Re: foster care. I actually want to do it! I read about how many kids in that system are LGBT and have trouble finding places because of that. And in my blue state there's a push to try and place those kids with same sex foster parent couples so they're comfortable and can be out.

But I also think that older kids in general are what I would want to take. I'm not up for diapers or constant "why" questions yet at my age!

[Carm_88]

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/josh-duggar-transformation-131162/photos/joy-anna-duggar-austin-forsyth-247251

I think we can officially call InTouch, completely out of touch. That picture is from the end of March when they were doing travelling before witnessing Tabitha Paine being married off to a rapist.

[HarleyQuinn]

Get it together, In Touch!

[PumaLover]

What's with the premarital sex thing at the end of the article? I thought that was a parody article put up, what was it, last month?

Back to the foster care discussion, Mr. Puma and I took in an 11 year old last year. It wasn't officially through the foster system. Her mom chose to give her to us before CPS took her. It has been hard because obviously a kid that age comes with a lot of emotional baggage and we are all in counseling. But last weekend as she was running through a creek she told me, "my life is great!" And that made it all worth it. So if you are able to foster older kids (especially LGBT) I would say go for it!

[Bad Wolf]

Seriously, In Touch? Joy had a pregnancy scare? Who's going to believe that? And who said Josh was getting counseling from a pastor? At least make your stories somewhat believable. Well, getting counseling  from a family pastor, which doesn't address his issues might be true.

[tabitha2]

In Touch in one of the worst tabloid mags... they are obsessed with making celebrities knocked up.Kate has been constantly pregnant with twins all named Diana  for the last 6 years. 

[JesusCampSongs]

23 hours ago, season of life said:

Nothing is going to ever fully ruin Josh Duggar. The molestation scandal didn't cause a divorce or a custody battle. The escort lawsuit didn't cause him to fall out of favor with his family. This suit won't change anything either. I predict Josh will continue to be a moron and he will continue to have kids.

Agreed; I think the only thing that will remove Josh from the family is...Josh. Not sure how many of these (likely endless) cycles of sex sin -> get caught -> blame a woman -> Jesus jail -> changed man he'll be willing to go through before he says, "fuck it, I'm out."