Joshley Madison Part 5 - Rehab and women and porn - oh my!

[Wingnut]

If what she said is true.....she took money for sex and he did not use a condom.

Just to be sure..... I have had sex without a condom BUT I never received money for it so that makes it "statistically impossible" that I could catch something? I have nothing to worry about. Whew, thank you doc. :ro

Just trying to understand your logic on this. :doh:

[Jessa's Feet]

A lot of people have speculated that Josh took his freaky impulses elsewhere because Anna wouldn't do certain things. I would actually be very surprised if Josh had even asked her. Because he was brought up to see sex as dirty and shameful, I could see him not wanting to do "dirty" things with his wife, the mother of his children. He probably does "love" Anna, as his wife and his children's mother. He may have seen the things he wanted to do as degrading to her. He didn't mind degrading other women, because they were sluts, so it's ok. I had a relative who was like that, and when he was eventually caught, he insisted that he was perfectly happy in his marriage, and that his wife was a wonderful wife, he just wanted a wife and a "whore". Luckily, the wife was smart enough to leave him. He's now married to the "whore", who he cheats on. I could really see this being the situation with Josh and Anna. Which makes it even worse for her, as she would've thought she had a great marriage with a loving husband. She'd be completely blindsided.

I didn't think about this until your post. I have a very similar friend story. My husbands best friend was a bit of a wild child growing up yet religious. He was going to a church when he was in college and it was there that he met his current wife. His wife is the extreme opposite of him. She is extremely prude, doesn't cuss, doesn't watch R movies, big church goer, doesn't like sex talk, likes sex by a certain time at night, and is pretty much dry as a saltine cracker. So what happens? 3 years into their marriage he cheats on his wife with my best friend. A girl that is wild, crazy, and down to do all the deviant sexual things he craves. It's through that side relationship we find out more stuff of how unhappy he is on several levels in his marriage because of the person his wife is.

However, our friend wanted what he felt everyone else and the church consider "wife material" and that's what he married. He thought that's what would give him marital security over the long haul. Doesn't work that way.

Without his wife around he's always trolling for girls. Always looking always talking about them. When my husband and him go to gaming conventions, he's subtly trying to pick up chicks.

His wife wants to have kids. He adamantly doesn't. He's going along with it.

It's now been 10 years since they've been married. She doesn't know, that I know of, about his infidelities. As for him? He's so miserable and bitter with everything in his life to the point where it's costing him friendships because no one wants to be around him anymore.

[from the bible belt]

For me, it's very telling that there have not been any public statements/denials from the family since her story broke. We know they follow this stuff so I"m sure Joshie boy is aware of her allegations. If it wasn't true, they would be screaming from the roof tops, no doubt.

I don't think so, it will only draw attention to this story and this girl. And you don't want that seeing her twitteraccount. And be sure to not open it when you have kids running around ;)

I would go silent on this girl also

[browncoatslytherin]

Anything?

any infection that can live a long time outside of the body, and presumably one that doesn't require blood to blood transmission.

[justoneoftwo]

Links to back up these many assertions?

I don't think population or group statistics mean crap when speaking about an individual in any case. You can't declare that because something is likely in a group that it is an absolute certainty for an individual - it doesn't work like that. Statistics aren't a Magic 8 Ball where "all signs point to yes".

Here are statistics and studies to back up some assertions. In particular ones that do not support you.

Since 2001 HIV among sex workers as a whole has been less than 1%, chlamydia from 2002-5 was around 1.6% (as opposed to the general population which was about 4.3%).

http://www.afao.org.au/__data/assets/pd ... on.pdf.pdf

As for HPV, its estimated that 75% of the sexually active population has it, and most don't know. So yes, its likely Anna does too. But there is no evidence that sex workers have it more than others, in fact if they are being seen specifically for STD, which most are, they are more likely to know.

http://www.scarleteen.com/article/sexua ... avirus_hpv

[chelleinchicago]

Pretty much anything? People poo-poo those shopping cart wipes but shit, I am All About Those Things.

Me too. I was even using the cart wipes before the report that they found fecal matter on many of them.

ETA: For CLARITY, I was talking about fecal matter on a SHOPPING CART, not a pole. Good grief I just read back and this is one weird ass conversation.

[What the fux say]

I was even using the cart wipes before the report that they found fecal matter on many of them.

No kidding. And really, if someone made the terrifying (it's my new word of the day, just trying it on for size) choice to actually swab any surface touched frequently by the public? Guess what they'd find. Poop. Poop, crap, shit and more kakka. We are fucking gross ass animals.

[gemma]

any infection that can live a long time outside of the body, and presumably one that doesn't require blood to blood transmission.

So, you are talking about vaginal secretions on a pole.....catching HPV? Hepatitis? I don't mean to be gross, but I'm thinking about public toilets. And, I never thought about the shopping cart wipes. I'm guessing anything highly communicable that can be on your hands then???

[What the fux say]

Dude. There is no doubt in my mind there is kakka on stripper poles.

Ok, back to the Duggars.

[Swamptribe]

Didn't see this had been posted yet.

http://gawker.com/josh-duggar-s-sex-reh ... thursdayAM

[gemma]

No kidding. And really, if someone made the terrifying (it's my new word of the day, just trying it on for size) choice to actually swab any surface touched frequently by the public? Guess what they'd find. Poop. Poop, crap, shit and more kakka. We are fucking gross ass animals.

Ok, wipes it is. Now I'm wondering where else I've been touching people's crap. I guess it only makes sense that some people won't wash their hands after using the toilet.

[What the fux say]

So, you are talking about vaginal secretions on a pole.....catching HPV? Hepatitis? I don't mean to be gross, but I'm thinking about public toilets. And, I never thought about the shopping cart wipes. I'm guessing anything highly communicable that can be on your hands then???

Of course there are vaginal secretions on a stripper pole... have you not seen what these young ladies wear? It's terrifying. If they lean over just a smidge, bam, vaginal secretions and fecal matter on the pole. And yes, consider your hands as complete vectors and if you never touch your face again, you may never get the flu again... unless someone coughs in your face or whatever.

[from the bible belt]

Oh my, this is going to get ugly. This crap isn't well tolerated here.

Can we just stop with the assumptions that the girl had something and duggar got something and now poor anna and kids have it? It is in my view rather disgusting and unnecessary. Please remember what you put on here will stay for ever, his kids one day could read this.

In my country pro call girls are checked monthly and they are told not to have unprotected sex, i don't think the US is any different

[TL;DR]

In my country pro call girls are checked monthly and they are told not to have unprotected sex, i don't think the US is any different

Honestly, the US is still pretty puritanical. Pro call girls/hookers only have the type of requirement you're talking about in Nevada, and even then, it's only the gals who work in bordellos. (Love that word. Doesn't get used enough.) Everywhere else it's usually a freelance sorta gig, and who's enforcing medical checks in that situation? Nobody.

[crazysnark]

Sorry if this has been posted but does anyone know anything on Anna's Sister Rebecca's divorce?

[formergothardite]

That's fine. But, many of you have been here longer than me and I didn't know such comments were not tolerated.

Generally people don't just accept "I pulled this out of thin air" as proof of something. You made a statement, people disagreed and you were asked to back up what you said with actual facts. So far you can't but you also haven't been willing to admit you misspoke.

[purposed2015]

Me too. I was even using the cart wipes before the report that they found fecal matter on many of them.

ETA: For CLARITY, I was talking about fecal matter on a SHOPPING CART, not a pole. Good grief I just read back and this is one weird ass conversation.

Like your avatar... Mrs. Doyle....

Never have heard this mentioned before, I see many nurses, aids that just got out of work and are wearing their

scrubs in the grocery store, leaning over veggie counter, meats, etc... who knows what is on their scrubs.

[VelociRapture]

Sorry if this has been posted but does anyone know anything on Anna's Sister Rebecca's divorce?

A few people brought it up a few pages ago. No one really knows anything other than Rebekkah and her husband are allegedly divorcing. Considering they are not public figures and don't seem to seek fame, I think we should leave it at that out of respect for them and their kids.

[Jessa's Feet]

What would someone catch from a pole????

Glitter. You could catch glitter. That stuff is super contagious, spreads easily, and difficult to get rid of.

[church_of_dog]

Just to be sure..... I have had sex without a condom BUT I never received money for it so that makes it "statistically impossible" that I could catch something? I have nothing to worry about. Whew, thank you doc. :ro

Just trying to understand your logic on this. :doh:

We all know how germy currency is, so clearly the risk of catching something is from the money itself! :lol:

EDIT: forgot to bold

[doggie]

I would say its more likly Josh is spreading the love around since he does not have common sense

[gemma]

Generally people don't just accept "I pulled this out of thin air" as proof of something. You made a statement, people disagreed and you were asked to back up what you said with actual facts. So far you can't but you also haven't been willing to admit you misspoke.

Yes, there is no real way I know for sure she has it.

[ethel]

Of course there are vaginal secretions on a stripper pole... have you not seen what these young ladies wear? It's terrifying. If they lean over just a smidge, bam, vaginal secretions and fecal matter on the pole. And yes, consider your hands as complete vectors and if you never touch your face again, you may never get the flu again... unless someone coughs in your face or whatever.

I, for one, have never seen what those young ladies wear. I'm afraid to use my imagination. lol

This whole conversation is ewwwwww.

[VelociRapture]

Glitter. You could catch glitter. That stuff is super contagious, spreads easily, and difficult to get rid of.

Is it wrong that I kind of want to refer to the potential spreading of STIs in this situation as, "Spreading the Glitter," now? :lol:

[Jessa's Feet]

Of course there are vaginal secretions on a stripper pole... have you not seen what these young ladies wear? It's terrifying. If they lean over just a smidge, bam, vaginal secretions and fecal matter on the pole. And yes, consider your hands as complete vectors and if you never touch your face again, you may never get the flu again... unless someone coughs in your face or whatever.

I just got a visual of a stripper keeping a travel size packet of Clorox wet wipes in her g-string and upon walking up the pole she pulls it out and wipes down the pole. Thus cleaning up the previous snail trails. Then her set music starts. Hey, Vivian Ward was into hygiene and made it look good on Pretty Women. You can be into hygiene and still be sexy sexy.