Trump 51: The Lame Duck a l‘Orange

[clueliss]

Of course Trump is coming back early.  Mitch isn't doing want the giant man baby wants.  (and I still want to know what Trump did to really tick Mitch off because this has been going on for a bit now and every time Trump wants something, Mitch jumps in to block it or defy him). 

[GreyhoundFan]

27 minutes ago, clueliss said:

Of course Trump is coming back early.  Mitch isn't doing want the giant man baby wants.  (and I still want to know what Trump did to really tick Mitch off because this has been going on for a bit now and every time Trump wants something, Mitch jumps in to block it or defy him). 

Mitch is only in it for Mitch. He wants unbridled power. When the tangerine toddler's tantrums threatened his power, MoscowMitch put his foot down and shut down the parts of the toddler's crap that affected him.

[Ozlsn]

11 hours ago, clueliss said:

Of course Trump is coming back early.  Mitch isn't doing want the giant man baby wants.  (and I still want to know what Trump did to really tick Mitch off because this has been going on for a bit now and every time Trump wants something, Mitch jumps in to block it or defy him). 

Start thinking he was actually in charge and ignoring the "requests" from their owners at a guess. 

Combined with just existing, which would be enough to annoy anyone.

[47of74]

Hey folks get yer popcorn ready

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The Senate on Friday joined the House to override President Donald Trump’s veto of a sweeping military policy bill, delivering the first such blow to Trump just weeks before he leaves office.

The Senate voted 81 to 13 to approve the $741 billion National Defense Authorization Act, achieving the two-thirds majority required to defeat the veto. The House overrode the veto on Monday by a vote of 322-87. As a result, the legislation will become law.

Among the lawmakers who voted against the override were Republicans Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Josh Hawley of Missouri and Democrats Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey of Massachusetts and Ron Wyden of Oregon. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., was a no vote as well.

Can’t wait for the man baby temper tantrum. I’m ready here. 
 

[AmazonGrace]

The president of the United States is unaware of which day it is.

 

[AmazonGrace]

 

[47of74]

Fuck Face’s legacy will be all the deaths he caused. 

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Michael Beschloss, a prominent presidential historian, in an interview with MSNBC this week said that historians will need time to fully assess President Donald Trump's legacy but that he'll never be able to escape the COVID-19 death toll. 

"Donald Trump is not going to change the record. He was largely responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans who did not need to die," Beschloss said. "Millions of others who suffered from covid did not need to suffer…This is really Nero's fiddling while Rome burns." 

The US has the highest numbers of reported COVID-19 cases and fatalities in the world. 

As of Wednesday morning, there have been over 19.5 million confirmed COVID-19 cases and nearly 339,000 reported deaths from the virus in the US, according to Johns Hopkins. Public health experts have consistently criticized Trump's handling of the pandemic, contending that a more coherent response from the president could've prevented tens of thousands of deaths.

 

[Alisamer]

21 hours ago, AmazonGrace said:

 

So “stop the steal” is, in fact, Trump stealing from his supporters. 
Too bad most of them will never realize it. 

[AmazonGrace]

 

[AmazonGrace]

The president of the United States is a whiny manbaby.

 

[AmazonGrace]

 

[fraurosena]

4 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

 

"... He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions..." is Trump-speak for "He hung up on me."

[GreyhoundFan]

1 hour ago, fraurosena said:

"... He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions..." is Trump-speak for "He hung up on me."

Or that the manbaby needed a nap and was put in his crib with a baby bottle filled with Diet Coke.

Edited January 3, 2021 by GreyhoundFan

[thoughtful]

Or Trump screamed at him, never let him get a word in edgewise, and strutted off like the pigeon on the chessboard, as usual.

[Xan]

2 hours ago, fraurosena said:

"... He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions..." is Trump-speak for "He hung up on me."

As I posted on the other thread, Raffensberger DID answer.  He told him that there were no ballots destroyed or taken from under the table.  Trump just wasn't listening.  I think he figured he'd just work the phones until the inauguration and make someone let him win after all.

[Howl]

Lordy, don't we all love it that there ARE tapes! 

 

[47of74]

Now that it’s 2021 the local letter to the editor counter has reset to zero. The 47of74 neurons are starting to fire in sequence now. Trying to figure out what I want to call that Fuckmuppet out for now. I want to do something that’ll make local BTs clutch their pearls and scream how ol 47 is being mean to them. 

[47of74]

5 hours ago, AmazonGrace said:

The president of the United States is a whiny manbaby.

 

Yeah I heard about this too

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Donald Trump has no shame when it comes to grousing that he's not getting the credit and praise others are getting in the COVID fight, and it seems the person who pisses him off most is one Dr. Anthony Fauci.

Trump unloaded Sunday on Twitter, saying ... "Something how Dr. Fauci is revered by the LameStream Media as such a great professional, having done, they say, such an incredible job, yet he works for me and the Trump Administration, and I am in no way given any credit for my work. Gee, could this just be more Fake News?"

I’m not exactly comfortable with calling Dr. Fauci America’s Doctor because people that get labeled as America’s anything later turnout to be totally undeserving. (Murica’s dad Bill Cosby and Murica’s mayor Rudolph Hands on his Pecker Ghouliani looking directly at you).  But he has done one trillion times better than fuck face here. And like the article said he has walked the walk unlike some other very prominent Democrats. 

[SeekingAdventure]

maybe if Trump would've actually followed Faucis advice, people would tell him what a good boy he is for having his listening ears on?

[fraurosena]

2 hours ago, Howl said:

Lordy, don't we all love it that there ARE tapes! 

 

The Boston Globe is calling for Trump to be impeached again— to prevent him from ever running for public office again.

Impeach the president again

[formergothardite]

If the Democrats gain the Senate and don’t use that majority to disqualify him from running again then they really are a huge part of the problem. Trump losing the ability to immediately start campaigning would crush him and take away his ability to keep raking in funds to pay his legal bills. It needs to be done. They have to play hardball. 

[clueliss]

Link to full audio 

 

[Audrey2]

45 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

The Boston Globe is calling for Trump to be impeached again— to prevent him from ever running for public office again.

Impeach the president again

I keep hoping that 2 years until election 2024 talk ramps up is a long time. At Trump's age and with his health, I am hoping that he is not in the health to run again and abandons his idea. I know the chances of this happening are not great but miracles happen... The Cleveland Browns made the playoffs!

[Bluebirdbluebell]

On 12/29/2020 at 8:02 PM, church_of_dog said:

Thank you so much, @fraurosena.  What I'm trying to get at is -- what are the fundamental issues (aside from our current political ridiculousness) that prevent the US from having a working national healthcare system as it seems to work pretty well in Europe and Canada and other places.

Does it really boil down to a cultural tolerance for higher taxes in order to fund these programs?  Or is it more a matter of the government allocating existing funds differently?  Or something else entirely?

This question not aimed solely at @fraurosena but I would love to hear from anyone who understands this issue.

????

Another big reason is that major religions don't want people to have reproductive rights. They want to take away birth control, etc. They against health care for that reason. It's not just a few fundies, any religious group that opposes reproductive rights is against universal health care. 

 

[Ozlsn]

11 hours ago, AmazonGrace said:

The president of the United States is a whiny manbaby.

I find it actually kind of... sad? telling? that he doesn't understand that Fauci is respected because he is qualified and leads. Trump wants that level of respect despite not working at anything, or achieving anything.

3 hours ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

Another big reason is that major religions don't want people to have reproductive rights. They want to take away birth control, etc. They against health care for that reason. It's not just a few fundies, any religious group that opposes reproductive rights is against universal health care. 

There also seems to be a feeling that some people will benefit from and/or abuse the system, and it will be at the expense of other, "more deserving" people, as well as a "why should I pay for other people to have something that's not benefiting me?" feeling. I'm not sure I'm expressing it well, but it was one thing that came across to me in the discussion about self-employed people having insurance, and who checks that they are actually sick[1], and it comes up in discussions about unemployment benefits, maternity leave and about similar kind of things a lot. 

I don't know if it is in fact more common in America, or if I just notice it more in those discussions (it comes up in Australian forums wrt the dole, any funding targeted at marginalised demographics, and to a certain extent the relatively new NDIS as well, but not about Medicare that I've seen). 

[1] two things I was going to add to that discussion here.

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1. Under our and the UK's system the self-employed insurance is not to pay medical bills because they are covered under tax (2% levy on taxable income here, which if you are on the exact mean income in the middle tax brackets is about $1300-1500/year.) The insurance is to cover lost income and bills - there are a variety of products, but they usually cover about 75% of income for a set period. And that of course is policed by the insurance companies, which are rapacious everywhere. Do a very small minority of people attempt to commit fraud? Hell yeah, people are also stupid everywhere.

2. If you are actually consistently  malingering in a company it is likely to be noticed, and at the very least you may be asked to present medical certificates and be reviewed by a nominated independent specialist to see if you are able to continue working in the role you are employed in. Most people have taken a mental health day at least once in their working lives, the absolute majority of people prefer to return to work if they are sick/injured (social lives is a major reason). If you are injured at work there is a review process to enable you to return to work - and after a set time period that becomes a review of whether you can continue in that role. 

 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Ozlsn
Clarity, I hope