2020 Election Results And Post-Election Day Discussion Part 2

[Destiny]

I love when one of the first things i get to do in a day is report the president’s tweets for lies about voting. Wait, no, that's utter bullshit and why is this even life?

[HerNameIsBuffy]

Last post and then I have to get moving...but CNN thinks PA may be tomorrow.  They had over 2 mil mail in votes and still have over 120k left to go in Philly.  Fortunately Biden is running 80% there.  There are a total of ~700k left to count state wide so it's taking a while.

They also say NV will have new counts in a few minutes, but they've cried wolf on results too many times I no longer trust them.

GA has > 61k votes left to go state wide.  Mostly near ATL and that's running pro Biden.  It's close but he still has a decent shot here.  He's getting 85% of the vote in some of those areas.

Okay...I'm going.

 

Edited November 5, 2020 by HerNameIsBuffy

[Alisamer]

26 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

At this point, all the talking heads seem to indicate that no court currently has a reason to intervene into any state’s voter counting process.

No, but we know Trump is going to try to force things up to the Supreme Court in any way possible. I'm sure the minute he was told RBG had passed he celebrated and made that his main plan.

(Also not going to lie I'm basing that partly on a tarot reading I did for the election a few weeks ago - the final card was Justice, and in that deck it's an actual judge at court. It could be "justice being served" and that's what I'm hoping for instead of the election decided by the courts, but Trump has court involvement ahead one way or another.)

4 minutes ago, Botkinetti said:

It’s very easy to announce now that you are going to run again in 4 years but I think he overestimates the attention span of his base.

If he is not president he will no longer be covered 24/7 by the media. Who is going to pay for the rallies ? He will be seen as a has-been and the lack of attention will cause more deranged tweeting and appearances. All of this is assuming he stays out of jail.

I have no doubt that he is going to continue tweeting 24/7, and no doubt at first some of that will be covered. 

My hope is Biden pulls out the win, and after a couple years of having a sane president without daily scandals and none of their dire "Socialism! Babies killed at birth! Open borders with criminals streaming in! Guns taken away!" fears realized, the deluded but generally decent members of Trump's "base" will come to their senses.

[Cartmann99]

5 minutes ago, Giraffe said:

I’m fully expecting either him or Ivanka to run in 2024. He may not be here in four years because of high blood pressure from spending all of Biden’s presidency apoplectic, but I won’t be surprised when Ivanka runs.

 His cult wants all the Trump kids to be president:

[HerNameIsBuffy]

10 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

 His cult wants all the Trump kids to be president:

Did anyone else see the Jordan Klemper video at a Trump rally where the guy had a list of dates of the Trump kids presidencies and the dates were all one term.  Jordan pointed it out and even when he explained that 2024-2028 is 4 years the guy insisted it was 8 years and represented 2 terms.

I always wonder what the Trumpers feel when they're mocked for their ignorance on the Daily Show.  I know they don't care about getting mocked for their beliefs, but when they're mocked for math or lack of basic knowledge.  I hope some are ashamed, but I doubt it.

(I've showered and brushed my teeth and this may be as productive as I get today.)

Edited November 5, 2020 by HerNameIsBuffy

[Penny]

I decided not to get booze, I went and got ice cream yesterday. Had a big bowl for dinner. I hope the 3 containers I bought will hold out until we have a results.

[Alisamer]

If another Trump runs for office in the future, I hope it's Ivanka.

Enough of his base are sexist and anti-semitic that it might just split the worst of them off.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

1 minute ago, Alisamer said:

If another Trump runs for office in the future, I hope it's Ivanka.

Enough of his base are sexist and anti-semitic that it might just split the worst of them off.

I don't. As truly awful as she is she seems to have the smoothest social skills of the 3 eldest Trump kids and polished enough to hoodwink more than either of her brothers.  

[GeraldineGrainger]

22 hours ago, Destiny said:

Also, hi! Stay a while.

I will! I can't tell you how nice it is to be among people who don't think my strong anti-Trump sentiments make me a "communist."

A little background:

I had what could be described as an "extreme" reaction to Trump's election. Before Trump, I was actually a person who didn't get terribly involved in politics. After Trump, I took actions that my family deemed "radical" or "excessive," including moving and yanking my kids from public school.

Sorry, but kids were making swastikas in art class and shouting "Trump that bitch!" at my daughter. I felt like it was a reasonable decision.

I also stopped speaking to my brother, after he called me a "libtard" on Facebook.

 

[AnywhereButHere]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/georgia-presidential-election-press-conference-watch-live-stream-today-2020-11-05/

Georgia press conference on now

[HerNameIsBuffy]

CNN Saying we won't know AZ today - likely tomorrow.

[Audrey2]

2 hours ago, Howl said:

Paula White is working God hard

 

God does answer pray, but sometimes he says "no". I had to memorize a verse about this for a children's day program when I was about 5. It has stuck with me.

1 hour ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

Fwiw I'm glad you (and everyone else in this thread) are stressing here so we can do it together.

Not to get all sappy but you guys are getting me through this, I have no one irl who is obsessing to this degree and I'd be going crazy if we weren't all slogging through this together.

RNC is now saying Trump will likely run in 2024 if he loses.  Not worrying about it now, but if it happens we'll need a Watergate style burglary to steal his drugs, show lifts, bronzer, and bobby pins.  Without those he won't be able to leave his bunker.

 

 

 

 

 

You, @fraurosena, and @Cartmann99 have gotten me through the last four years. Thank you!

53 minutes ago, Botkinetti said:

It’s very easy to announce now that you are going to run again in 4 years but I think he overestimates the attention span of his base.

If he is not president he will no longer be covered 24/7 by the media. Who is going to pay for the rallies ? He will be seen as a has-been and the lack of attention will cause more deranged tweeting and appearances. All of this is assuming he stays out of jail.

If Joe wins, I don't see him running for a second term. Trump made a big deal about Biden's age, and he will be even older than Biden in four years and in worse shape. Here's hoping, anyway.

Edited November 5, 2020 by Audrey2

[HerNameIsBuffy]

1 minute ago, GeraldineGrainger said:

I will! I can't tell you how nice it is to be among people who don't think my strong anti-Trump sentiments make me a "communist."

A little background:

I had what could be described as an "extreme" reaction to Trump's election. Before Trump, I was actually a person who didn't get terribly involved in politics. After Trump, I took actions that my family deemed "radical" or "excessive," including moving and yanking my kids from public school.

Sorry, but kids were making swastikas in art class and shouting "Trump that bitch!" at my daughter. I felt like it was a reasonable decision.

I also stopped speaking to my brother, after he called me a "libtard" on Facebook.

 

You're amongst friends here.

[Cartmann99]

Just saw this at CNN:

Democrats may need to win both Senate races in Georgia to flip the Senate

 

[Destiny]

3 minutes ago, GeraldineGrainger said:

I will! I can't tell you how nice it is to be among people who don't think my strong anti-Trump sentiments make me a "communist."

A little background:

I had what could be described as an "extreme" reaction to Trump's election. Before Trump, I was actually a person who didn't get terribly involved in politics. After Trump, I took actions that my family deemed "radical" or "excessive," including moving and yanking my kids from public school.

Sorry, but kids were making swastikas in art class and shouting "Trump that bitch!" at my daughter. I felt like it was a reasonable decision.

I also stopped speaking to my brother, after he called me a "libtard" on Facebook.

 

Ohhh fuck no! 

Your actions sound completely reasonable. Welcome, you're among your tribe here. 

GA SOS is speaking. I need this over y'all. This episode of democracy is too damn long.

[GeraldineGrainger]

6 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

CNN Saying we won't know AZ today - likely tomorrow.

This is a nightmare. It drives me crazy that the AP called Arizona for Biden, and some media outlets (even Fox?!!) were proclaiming about Biden flipping this Republican stronghold, except...oops. Maybe not.

[nokidsmom]

44 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

You are forgetting the SDNY... they are gearing up to prosecute his ass. Plus, I don't think the Dems will just leave it and not hold him accountable at all. No, dude is going down. 

Yep, agree, SDNY is seriously after him.   He's in a LOT of trouble right there even if the Dems don't do anything.     And as far as his older kids running for office, I am not too worried, they are all so intertwined that if Daddy goes down, so do they.  

[clueliss]

The only outlet I've seen that hasn't declared AZ is ABC News.  As a result that's the map I've been following. 

[Destiny]

1 minute ago, clueliss said:

The only outlet I've seen that hasn't declared AZ is ABC News.  As a result that's the map I've been following. 

Most places haven't. Just AP and Faux have so far. Useful map for who's called what:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/upshot/network-race-call-tracker.html

[OldFadedStar]

I have some questions... I'm hoping someone more educated on these matters than me can help me understand. 

One of the republicans main arguments is that the democrats use dead people to vote. That sounds outrageous to me.. but check this out in Michigan. William Brady, born March 1902 in zip code 48207 shows as having had gotten a mail in ballot through their website: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index 

I know we don't know for sure who this ballot voted for, if it was even sent in, but how is this even possible in America? 

Why is it that if Democrats win then "obviously they cheated". If they did cheat, wouldn't they have won the senate or house seats in those areas? 

[SassyPants]

AP has also called AZ for Biden. My husband left in a huff this morning because I keep yammering about AZ, and he is convinced since AP has called it, that Biden has secured it. I think Trump is attempting to pull Tom f*ckery in AZ. He can’t handle that Cindy McCain’s efforts might have screwed him out of 4more years.

[Destiny]

6 minutes ago, OldFadedStar said:

One of the republicans main arguments is that the democrats use dead people to vote. That sounds outrageous to me.. but check this out in Michigan. William Brady, born March 1902 in zip code 48207 shows as having had gotten a mail in ballot through their website: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index 

Not every jurisdiction removes people from their rolls in a timely manner. I was on the rolls in the county I used to live in and got ballots for years after I had moved away. I don't know how michigan does their absentee ballots, but simply having a ballot mailed doesn't mean a damn thing if it's not returned.

Actual science has been done and the instances of voter fraud are VERY, VERY low. Like, it might be under a hundred in the entire country in an election low.

Edited November 5, 2020 by Destiny

[SassyPants]

8 minutes ago, OldFadedStar said:

I have some questions... I'm hoping someone more educated on these matters than me can help me understand. 

One of the republicans main arguments is that the democrats use dead people to vote. That sounds outrageous to me.. but check this out in Michigan. William Brady, born March 1902 in zip code 48207 shows as having had gotten a mail in ballot through their website: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index 

I know we don't know for sure who this ballot voted for, if it was even sent in, but how is this even possible in America? 

Why is it that if Democrats win then "obviously they cheated". If they did cheat, wouldn't they have won the senate or house seats in those areas? 

Well...My mom, an octogenarian Trumper, has decided in her mind that Hilary was the candidate in 2016 that worked with Cambridge Analytics and the Russians to skew the elections. I finally had to tell her if HC was the one colluding, how come Trump won, particularly in all the exact places that he needed to win, and despite all the polls and forecasts showing to the contrary? Yes, that comment was met with silence. Logic is lost on these entrenched folks.

Edited November 5, 2020 by SassyPants

[onekidanddone]

Serious question here. Where the fuck is Barr in all this?

[purple_summer]

Why am I still here??