The War On Abortion And Women's Rights

[GreyhoundFan]

Good, it shouldn’t end at birth. 
 

[GreyhoundFan]

Generous? Seriously? "Fla. Republicans ditch Texas-style abortion law for what they call a ‘generous’ 15-week ban, drawing criticism from all sides"

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TALLAHASSEE — It took just one day after Texas enacted its controversial “heartbeat bill,” banning abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, for a top Florida Republican to endorse passing the same law in his state — with the leader of the state Senate declaring that a similar measure was “something we’re already working on.”

But by the time the measure was introduced in September, drawing national headlines as the first Texas copycat ban to emerge nationwide, Florida GOP leaders effectively shrugged it off.

Even Gov. Ron DeSantis, a rising hero on the right for his unapologetic opposition to coronavirus restrictions, said he hadn’t read enough about the Texas ban to comment. His staff went further. Pointing to the novel enforcement mechanism that allowed citizen watchdogs to sue anyone involved in facilitating abortion access after the legal limit, they said DeSantis “didn’t want to turn private citizens against each other.”

Four months later, Florida Republicans have coalesced around a bill they have come to describe as “very reasonable” and “generous” — a 15-week ban modeled after the Mississippi law in the U.S. Supreme Court case that will determine the future of Roe v. Wade. It’s an approach, they say, that would prevent only a fraction of the more than 70,000 abortions performed in Florida each year, the vast majority of which take place in the first trimester.

“We’re not banning anything. We’re not being mean,” said state Sen. Kelli Stargel, a Republican from central Florida and a chief sponsor of the Mississippi-style bill that was approved by a committee last week and is expected to win easy passage before the legislative session ends in March. “We’re not taking away a woman’s opportunity.”

The momentum behind the 15-week ban in Florida offers a glimpse into what activists on both sides say is an emerging strategy in some GOP-led legislatures to acclimate voters to a post-Roe world. The objective, these activists say, is to portray the Mississippi-style ban as a sensible compromise — even though a 15-week ban represents a dramatic rollback of the standard established by Roe, which protects the right to abortion until a fetus is viable outside the womb, around 22 to 24 weeks. Fifteen-week bans have been introduced recently in West Virginia and Arizona, and just like in Florida, both are moving swiftly through the legislature, even as Texas-style laws in other states have stalled.

Abortion rights groups are sounding the alarm about the potential impact of Florida’s 15-week ban, which as drafted would have no exception for rape or incest. The state’s current law allowing abortions up to 24 weeks of pregnancy is among the most lenient in the Southeast, making it a reliable access point in the region.

“If they drop a bill so extreme and so crazy that it dominates the news for months, when they drop a 15-week ban, it does not look as extreme,” said Annie Filkowski, policy director of the Florida Alliance of Planned Parenthood Affiliates. “It looks like a compromise.”

The approach has introduced a surprising dynamic for Florida Republicans, who have long dominated the state Capitol, prompting rare denunciations of DeSantis from some corners of the party base.

One prominent antiabortion lobbyist, Andrew Shirvell, executive director of Florida Voice for the Unborn, has publicly called on DeSantis to join fellow GOP Govs. Kristi L. Noem of South Dakota and Greg Abbott of Texas to back stricter bans. To date, the strongest abortion law signed by DeSantis, who is up for reelection this year and widely seen as a potential presidential candidate, is a 2020 measure requiring parental consent.

“We’ve had pro-life majorities in our legislature for close to 30 years and a Republican governor for decades. There is really little excuse for this,” Shirvell said. “If you believe that abortion is murder, then you need to act like it.”

DeSantis’s office did not respond to a request for comment. At a news conference on Jan. 12, he said he was “supportive” of a 15-week ban.

“I think that’s very reasonable, and I think that’s very consistent with, you know, being supportive of protecting life,” he said.

In the Florida House, Republican Rep. Dana Trabulsy said 15 weeks was a “long time.”

“Because I believe life begins at conception, that’s, that’s — generous,” she said.

Experts say abortion is a political wild card in Florida. There is no recent comprehensive statewide polling on the issue, said Mary Ziegler, a law professor at Florida State University who specializes in abortion.

The most comparable state-by-state polling on abortion, from 2014, found that 39 percent of Floridians believed abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, compared with 50 percent of Texans that same year.

“The data suggests that Florida is not as antiabortion as many red states, so Florida doesn’t have the luxury of having the matter theoretically decided,” said Ziegler.

Florida has maintained relatively relaxed abortion laws because of a 1980 privacy law interpreted by the state Supreme Court to protect the right to abortion. Most notably, Florida is the only state south of Virginia and east of New Mexico that does not require patients to schedule an initial consultation at least 24 hours before their procedure, allowing out-of-state patients to access abortion care without staying overnight.

If the Florida bill takes effect, patients seeking abortions after 15 weeks would probably have to travel to North Carolina.

GOP leaders in Florida say the Texas-style ban was never seriously considered.

When the Texas-style bill was introduced in September, the sponsor, a freshman Republican, was “cowboying it on his own,” said John Stemberger, president of the Florida Family Policy Council, an antiabortion lobbying group that is in communication with the Republican leadership and the governor’s office on abortion issues.

“We never expected it to go anywhere,” Stemberger added.

Stargel, the senator behind the 15-week ban, said she “knew we could never get that bill passed.” While she would have loved to ban abortion at an earlier point in pregnancy, she said, the Florida public “is not there yet.”

State Rep. Webster Barnaby (R), who introduced Florida’s version of the Texas law in September, said he consulted with Republican leadership only after he filed his bill. He filed his legislation “on the strength of my personal convictions,” he said. After learning more about Florida’s privacy law, and the reasons a Texas-style ban might not work as well in Florida, he said, he decided to back the 15-week ban instead.

“I’m a big boy. I understand politics,” he said. “The French have a saying. They say, ‘C’est la vie.’”

The 15-week limit was a “pragmatic calculation,” said Stemberger, providing the most surefire path to an antiabortion victory.

By mimicking the Mississippi law, he said, Florida Republicans would maximize their chances of passing a law that could get through the courts, which have become significantly more conservative in recent years but are still beholden to the privacy law that has protected abortion rights in the state for more than three decades. Even if the Supreme Court rules narrowly — and upholds the Mississippi law without fully overturning Roe — Florida’s 15-week ban would almost certainly stand.

The bill would have the added benefit of being more politically palatable to moderate voters, Stemberger added. “I think the average person will see this as a reasonable proposal and not extreme,” he said.

The scene last week at Florida’s Capitol, however, showed that not everyone was prepared to accept the measure as a compromise. Abortion rights supporters packed into a Senate committee room, lining up to address the conservative-dominated panel.

Samantha Deans, associate medical director for Planned Parenthood of South, East and North Florida, shared the story of an 11-year-old girl who came to her clinic after she was raped by a family member. She had just had her first period, Deans said, and her mother didn’t realize she was pregnant until she was 23 weeks along.

“Abortion bans like the one proposed here today are a direct assault on patient autonomy,” she said. “No one should have their most personal decisions controlled by anyone beyond themselves ... especially not by politicians.”

Unlike abortion bans in several other states this legislative cycle, the Florida bill materialized without fanfare, introduced a few hours before the filing deadline, with no news conference to mark its introduction. DeSantis did not talk about the 15-week ban in his opening address to the legislature on Jan. 11, mentioning the legislation only when asked about it by reporters, a choice that angered some on the right.

Advocates on both sides of the issue say they suspect legislators are trying to “slip in” the 15-week ban without attracting too much attention.

“It’s the exact opposite of what’s happened in other states like Texas,” said Shirvell. “They seemed to want it to get the least amount of publicity possible.”

Shirvell accused DeSantis of trying to “have it both ways”: backing an abortion ban to appease the GOP base, but keeping it quiet to avoid alienating moderates.

State Rep. Anna Eskamani (D), one of Florida’s most outspoken opponents of the 15-week ban, thinks Republicans are trying to rush the 15-week ban through the legislature as quickly as possible to put the maximum amount of time between its passage and the election.

“They don’t want to wake up the Democrats,” she said.

 

[GreyhoundFan]

Wow, just wow: "Missouri lawmaker seeks to stop residents from obtaining abortions out of state"

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The pattern emerges whenever a Republican-led state imposes new restrictions on abortion: People seeking the procedure cross state lines to find treatment in places with less-restrictive laws.

Now, a prominent antiabortion lawmaker in Missouri, from where thousands of residents have traveled to next-door Illinois to receive abortions since Missouri passed one of the country’s strictest abortion laws in 2019, believes she has found a solution.

An unusual new provision, introduced by state Rep. Mary Elizabeth Coleman (R), would allow private citizens to sue anyone who helps a Missouri resident obtain an abortion out of state, using the novel legal strategy behind the restrictive law in Texas that since September has banned abortions in that state after six weeks of pregnancy.

Coleman has attached the measure as an amendment to several abortion-related bills that have made it through committee and are waiting to be heard on the floor of the House of Representatives.

Abortion rights advocates say the measure is unconstitutional because it would effectively allow states to enact laws beyond their jurisdictions, but the Republican-led Missouri legislature has been supportive of creative approaches to antiabortion legislation in the past. The measure could signal a new strategy by the antiabortion movement to extend its influence beyond the conservative states poised to tighten restrictions if the Supreme Court moves this summer to overturn its landmark precedent protecting abortion rights.

“If your neighboring state doesn’t have pro-life protections, it minimizes the ability to protect the unborn in your state,” said Coleman, who said she’s been trying to figure out how to crack down on out-of-state abortions since Planned Parenthood opened an abortion clinic on the Illinois-Missouri border in 2019.

A Supreme Court decision that undercuts Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court ruling legalizing abortion across the United States, probably would create a national landscape that encourages patients to cross state lines for abortions, with Democrat-led states moving to protect abortion rights as Republican-led states further limit them.

The trend has been apparent in Texas, where the majority of people seeking abortions since the state’s six-week abortion ban took effect in September have been able to obtain the procedure at clinics in neighboring states, or by ordering abortion pills in the mail, according to a report from the Texas Policy Evaluation Project. Demand for abortions has skyrocketed in Oklahoma, Louisiana, New Mexico and other nearby states. Planned Parenthood clinics in states that border Texas reported that patient traffic increased by nearly 800 percent, and independent providers reported comparable increases.

Since Planned Parenthood opened its clinic on the Missouri-Illinois border in October 2019, 10,644 Missouri residents have received abortion care at the clinic, according to Planned Parenthood. By early 2021, the last remaining clinic in Missouri was typically providing between 10 and 20 abortions per month, according to preliminary data from the Missouri Department of Health.

Coleman said she hopes her amendment will thwart efforts by Missourians to cross state lines for abortions. The measure would target anyone even tangentially involved in an abortion performed on a Missouri resident, including the hotline staffers who make the appointments, the marketing representatives who advertise out-of-state clinics, and the Illinois and Kansas-based doctors who handle the procedure. Her amendment also would make it illegal to manufacture, transport, possess or distribute abortion pills in Missouri.

Olivia Cappello, the press officer for state media campaigns at Planned Parenthood, called the idea “wild” and “bonkers.” She called the proposal “the most extraordinary provision we have ever seen.”

If enacted, the measure almost certainly would face a swift legal challenge.

Elizabeth Myers, an attorney for Texas abortion rights groups in a court challenge to the six-week abortion ban, said states cannot regulate activities beyond their borders. She drew a parallel to marijuana laws, which also vary from state to state: While Texas lawmakers can outlaw marijuana, and punish anyone who uses the drug within Texas borders, she said, they have no jurisdiction over a Texas resident who uses marijuana in a state where its use is legal.

“A state’s power is over its own citizens and its own geographical boundaries,” Myers said. “These are limits imposed by the federal constitution and federal law.”

Coleman’s proposal still may succeed in deterring out-of-state abortions, said Myers. Like the Texas law, the proposal itself could have a chilling effect, where doctors in surrounding states stop performing abortions before courts have an opportunity to intervene, worried that they may face a flurry of lawsuits if they violate the law.

Coleman rejects arguments that her law is unconstitutional.

“That’s what they said about the Texas law, and every bill passed to protect the unborn for the last 49 years,” she said.

Coleman prayed outside the clinic on the Illinois-Missouri border on the day it opened, she said. Since then, she said, she’s been talking to “anyone who would listen” about legal strategies for decreasing the number of Missouri women who seek abortions in other states.

While Coleman says she has been happy to see the sharp decline in abortions in Missouri, she says she can’t fully celebrate the success when so many women are obtaining the same procedure a few miles away.

“It’s just tragic,” she said of the number of Missouri residents who get abortions in Illinois. “It feels very sad and heavy.”

Abortion clinics in states that support abortion rights are preparing for a surge of new patients if Roe is overturned. They are opening new locations and advocating for legislation that would allow them to accommodate more people. Lawmakers in several states have proposed bills this session that would allow nurse practitioners and nurse midwives to perform abortions, in addition to physicians, while others are planning to create statewide databases that will allow out-of-state patients to more easily plan their abortion care.

“We’ve got already half of states that have passed some kind of law to restrict or eliminate abortion access,” said California state Sen. Nancy Skinner (D), who has introduced legislation to help make California a “sanctuary state” for people seeking abortion access. “We definitely are and intend to be a national beacon for reproductive freedom and reproductive justice.”

 

[Coconut Flan]

In response to the forced birth clubs, California is seeking to make abortions easier to provide and obtain.  Have your abortion vacation by the beach.  We were already home of removing the de facto excommunication for getting an abortion at least in San Diego county.  

[Cartmann99]

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[Cartmann99]

Oklahoma House clears near-total abortion ban

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The Oklahoma House voted 78-19 Tuesday to ban all abortions unless it's necessary for saving a pregnant person's life.

Why it matters: The bill, which would incentivize private citizens to sue anyone suspected of helping a person get an abortion, would surpass Texas' six-week abortion ban to become the most restrictive in the nation.

• The bill now heads to the state Senate. If signed into law, it would take effect immediately but would likely face legal challenges.

What they're saying: "After seeing the devastation caused by Texas’ abortion ban, Oklahoma politicians have taken the unconscionable step of imposing an even harsher ban on pregnant people," the American Civil Liberties Union tweeted.

• "Abortion rights activists have been warning of this nightmare for months: These bounty hunter laws will have a domino effect across the country, as more and more states ban abortion entirely while Roe v. Wade is still the law of the land," the Center for Reproductive Rights' Elisabeth Smith said in a statement.

Worth noting: Many Texans had been traveling to Oklahoma to get abortions. According to Planned Parenthood, Oklahoma saw a nearly 2,500% increase in Texas patients compared to the previous year after Texas' law was enacted.

• The Supreme Court is set to reconsider the landmark Roe v. Wade decision that established the constitutional right to an abortion and could release a ruling as soon as this summer.

Details: Oklahoma’s HB 4327 would encourage private citizens to sue anyone who "performs or induces" an abortion, as well as anyone who "aids or abets the performance" of an abortion.

• Like in Texas' ban, citizens would be awarded at least $10,000 for "each abortion" that a health professional has provided.
• The bill also states that whoever is sued cannot say that they believe the bill is "unconstitutional" in order to defend themselves in a court of law.

 

[Becky]

8 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

Oklahoma House clears near-total abortion ban

 

“The bill also states that whoever is sued cannot say that they believe the bill is unconstitutional.” WTF? 
 

[Cartmann99]

Oklahoma passes total abortion ban, further limiting options for Texans

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The Oklahoma Legislature passed a law Tuesday that makes performing an abortion in the state a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison. The governor is expected to sign the bill into law, and it would go into effect this summer.

Once in place, the law would have major regional impacts. More Texans have sought abortions in Oklahoma than in any other state since a Texas law banning abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy went into effect Sept. 1.

“Oklahoma is going from a state where we’ve been a haven for refugees who’ve needed support to a state that has chosen to make refugees of its own citizens,” said Emily Wales, the interim president and CEO of Planned Parenthood Great Plains, which operates clinics in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kansas and Missouri.

Oklahoma has been scrambling to keep up with the deluge of patients from Texas for more than seven months. The state’s four providers have extended hours, hired additional staff and worked long shifts to absorb more than 600 additional patients a month.

But now, these providers are facing the opposite problem: not a deluge, but a drought, as the state follows its neighbor’s lead in limiting abortion access.

Before the ban

On a recent Wednesday morning, the Trust Women abortion clinic in Oklahoma City got more than 200 phone calls in just two hours. People were calling, again and again, trying to get through to someone so they could book an appointment for an abortion several weeks out.

“There wasn’t anything special happening that Wednesday,” said communications director Zack Gingrich-Gaylord. “That has just been the case every day since Aug. 31.”

Oklahoma’s four abortion clinics — two in Tulsa and two in Oklahoma City — have absorbed more Texas patients than any other state. Nearly half of all Texans who got abortions out of state between September and December went to Oklahoma, according to a study from the Texas Policy Evaluation Project at the University of Texas at Austin.

Oklahoma’s population is a fraction of the size of Texas’, and the state has historically provided a fraction of the abortions — roughly 5,000 procedures in 2019, compared with more than 56,000 in Texas.

To accommodate more than 600 additional procedures a month, the Oklahoma clinics have had to scale up — and scale back. Trust Women has stopped providing other health care services to focus more fully on abortion care, doubling clinic days and adding half a dozen doctors between its two clinics.

The clinics are seeing more patients later in pregnancy because of weeks long waiting lists. And still, they’re having to turn a lot of patients away, creating a regional ripple effect as patients from Oklahoma are pushed into Kansas and Illinois.

“The capacity of these states is not enough for their own state, let alone to be able to absorb … Texas’s needs, even if you split them up,” Gingrich-Gaylord said. “And again, people shouldn’t have to leave their own communities for health care.”

At Planned Parenthood’s two Oklahoma clinics, Texas patients made up 60% of the caseload between September and January, compared with just 10% during that same period in 2020, according to a spokesperson.

Oklahoma’s existing abortion restrictions also made it a somewhat more convenient option for Texans seeking care. The state has a 72-hour waiting period, but unlike in neighboring Arkansas, the first visit does not need to be in person.

If Oklahoma’s new abortion ban becomes law, Texans will have to either travel further or stay longer — or carry the pregnancy to term.

“It’s incredibly difficult for people to travel out of state [for an abortion] already,” said Cristina Parker with the Lilith Fund, a nonprofit that helps Texans pay for abortions. “Having anything happen in a neighboring state that would cut off that access even more just makes every single one of those barriers a little bit more intense.”

In the first few months of this year, about a third of the Lilith Fund’s clients went to Oklahoma for care.

“For someone who can’t just dip into a savings account, who can’t schedule paid time off, who has to find child care,” Parker said, “it’s not an option to go further, spend more and be away from home longer.”

The Oklahoma House of Representatives recently passed a bill that banned abortions by empowering private citizens to bring lawsuits against anyone who “aided or abetted” in an abortion. The bill is in front of the Senate and contained an emergency provision that allowed it to go into effect as soon as the governor signed it.

But in a surprise move Tuesday, the House passed a different bill, making it a felony for doctors to provide abortions. The bill already passed the Senate last year, and it now goes to Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt. According to the Associated Press, Stitt has said he will sign any anti-abortion bill that comes to his desk.

The law, which is expected to go into effect this summer, would likely be found to violate the abortion protections enshrined in the U.S. Supreme Court's decisions in Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey. But the high court is expected to rule this summer on a Mississippi case that could overturn both of those cases, allowing laws like Oklahoma's to withstand court challenge.

 

[Jana814]

So sad about Oklahoma, I feel really bad for the residences of that state. 

[Cartmann99]

Oklahoma governor signs near-total abortion ban, threatens prison for providers

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April 12 (Reuters) - Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt on Tuesday signed a bill that makes it illegal to perform an abortion in the state except in medical emergencies, penalizing those who do with up to $100,000 in fines and 10 years in prison.

The legislation, which is one of several anti-abortion measures advanced by the state's Republican-controlled legislature this year, will take effect this summer unless it is blocked in court.

"We want to choose life in Oklahoma. We do not want to allow abortions in the state of Oklahoma," Stitt said as he signed the bill at a news conference.

If it takes effect, the ban will widen a swath of the country where there is little to no legal abortion access. Oklahoma has become a frequent destination for Texas women seeking abortions since the larger neighboring state in September banned abortions for pregnancies from about six weeks, before many women even know they are pregnant.

Planned Parenthood abortion providers in Oklahoma saw a nearly 2,500% increase in Texas patients in the months after the Texas law took effect compared to the same period in 2020, the organization said.

"The ban signed today is cruel and if it takes effect this summer, will have a devastating impact on people in Oklahoma, neighboring Texans, as well as an entire region facing attacks on their rights to abortion access," Melissa Fowler, the National Abortion Federation's chief program officer, said in a statement.

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki condemned the ban in a statement and called on Congress to pass legislation that would codify abortion rights nationally.

"The actions today in Oklahoma are a part of disturbing national trend attacking women’s rights and the Biden Administration will continue to stand with women in Oklahoma and across the country in the fight to defend their freedom to make their own choices about their futures," Psaki said.

Separate legislation introduced in Oklahoma this year proposes banning almost all abortions and relying on private citizens to sue any person who "aids or abets" abortions, similar to Texas' six-week abortion ban. That bill contains an emergency clause, which would allow it to take effect immediately once it is signed by the governor.

In the past few months, Republican-led states like Oklahoma have been quickly passing ever-stricter abortion bans with the anticipation that an impending U.S. Supreme Court decision could help the bans withstand legal challenges.

The Supreme Court is due to rule by the end of June on a case involving a Republican-backed Mississippi law that gives its conservative majority a chance to undermine or even repeal the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion nationwide.

During arguments in the case, the conservative justices signaled a willingness to dramatically curtail abortion rights in the United States.

 

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[Cartmann99]

TW: Rape

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[NotQuiteMotY]

17 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

TW: Rape

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So in her view the best way to help a rape victim is to potentially further victimize and traumatize them, including by taking away more of their agency. Because it's an opportunity to... What, exactly?

[NotQuiteMotY]

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That dynamic could change dramatically with a conservative GOP governor. Mastriano and White both said they support a total ban on abortion, without any exceptions for cases of rape, incest, or medical emergencies in which the life of a mother is at stake.

Mastriano is one of the frontrunners in the Pennsylvania Republican gubernatorial primary. Because nothing says pro-life like ensuring two people instead of one die. 

https://whyy.org/articles/pa-governor-race-2022-election-gop-candidates-debate/

Edited April 30, 2022 by NotQuiteMotY

[church_of_dog]

On 4/29/2022 at 9:07 AM, NotQuiteMotY said:

So in her view the best way to help a rape victim is to potentially further victimize and traumatize them, including by taking away more of their agency. Because it's an opportunity to... What, exactly?

Opportunities are voluntary, meaning one can also opt NOT to take the opportunity.  If it's mandated, it's not an "opportunity".

[fraurosena]

It turns out this could be a very sad day for women in the US.

 

Edited May 2, 2022 by samurai_sarah
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[Becky]

Please god no.... I am not a single issue voter, but freedom to choose safe, legal abortion is very, very high on my list of candidate qualifications.  Opposition to the right to choose is a deal-breaker for me.  It is critical!!  My heart will shatter the day Roe v Wade is overturned. 

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[Anne Of Gray Gables]

8 hours ago, Becky said:

Please god no.... I am not a single issue voter, but freedom to choose safe, legal abortion is very, very high on my list of candidate qualifications.  Opposition to the right to choose is a deal-breaker for me.  It is critical!!  My heart will shatter the day Roe v Wade is overturned. 

Sounds like it will be any day now. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473

[Destiny]

I am shaking in rage. SCOTUSBlog says it looks authentic, so basically there’s max of two months left of reproductive rights in the USA.

[Anne Of Gray Gables]

17 minutes ago, Destiny said:

I am shaking in rage. SCOTUSBlog says it looks authentic, so basically there’s max of two months left of reproductive rights in the USA.

Women in blue states aren't safe either.  When/if the republicans take Congress next year, there is talk a federal ban on abortion so it will be illegal everywhere.

[Destiny]

Women in blue states aren't safe either.  When/if the republicans take Congress next year, there is talk a federal ban on abortion so it will be illegal everywhere.

Yup. Joni Earnst (sp?) is apparently spearheading a national 6 week ban. Just, what the all-encompassing FUCK?

[SPHASH]

GODDAMN YOU TO HELL MITCH MCCONNELL AND SUSAN COLLINS YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT!!!!!!

Edited May 3, 2022 by SPHASH

[Destiny]

GODDAMN YOU TO HELL MITCH MCCONNELL AND SUSAN COLLINS!!!!!!

I’m shaking with rage at the fucking hypocrite McConnell in particular. Aunt Amy should NEVER have been considered for the court 6 fucking weeks before an election.