Lori Alexander 46: She Sure Is Highly Edumacated

[feministxtian]

Lori doesn't know shit about poverty. Right now hubs is rolling dimes for gas money until he gets paid. 

Fuck that bitch

[smittykins]

Once I bought a can of spaghetti and meatballs with two rolls of pennies.

@EowynW, that majorly sucks. I'm sorry.

[molecule]

1 hour ago, feministxtian said:

Lori doesn't know shit about poverty. Right now hubs is rolling dimes for gas money until he gets paid. 

Fuck that bitch

We've had to do the same thing. I hate it. We'd love to have a vehicle with better gas mileage, but that costs money we don't have. It makes me weary to have to run every decision through a filter of how much it will cost. Even something as simple as taking a meal to a church family isn't always feasible. 

Sometimes I come away from Lori's posts feeling so inadequate--not because I care what she thinks, but because she describes things that I would love to be able to do and just can't. I'm sure it would be far worse if I actually valued her opinion.

[feministxtian]

1 minute ago, molecule said:

We've had to do the same thing. I hate it. We'd love to have a vehicle with better gas mileage, but that costs money we don't have.

Tell me about it. Hubs drives a 1999 Expedition with the big V8 in it. Gas is now almost 3.50 a gallon here. Thing is, we paid 6K for it about 12 years ago. Its paid for and it runs just fine. I have a Mustang with the little V8 in it. It'll pass everything BUT a gas station  It's 14 years old, we finally got it all fixed (it sat for a long time and that's just not a good thing) and it's also paid for. I've had it for 8 years.

I'm HOPING one of these damn job interviews turns into a job...and both jobs I interviewed for pay enough that we'd be busting out of the broke-ass category in a minute...But, we've decided that we won't be moving out of shit-ville or go crazy buying anything other than grub and maybe a trip or 2 to the art store. 

HOPEFULLY when my accident settles there will be enough $ to either buy a house or afford to live in a better neighborhood. I'd like to buy an SUV for myself because that Mustang is hell on my fucked up back. 

[Sarah92]

I'm so sorry @EowynW that's just awful. Why would someone just text you like that? 

I think she underestimates the fact that many kids are smart enough to know their mom works to help keep a roof over their heads. When my mom went back to work when I was a teenager I understood and so did my younger sister. We didn't feel less loved.

What's one way to give your child more problems? Making them live in poverty when you're perfectly able to find a job. And then having like 10 kids. I don't judge people who just have circumstances that prevent them from working. But these women who brag on Lori's page just make me angry. 

[Imrlgoddess]

Hugs @EowynW. I don't know if this is overly interesting to you but, maybe check into getting your notary commission. It's a nice little side thing or it could turn into more than that. Just throwing a bone out. I know things will things around for you.   

Lori is a spoiled, ungrateful brat. 

[Koala]

Lori's Instagram has fan girls going 

Reader:

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I am not sure why Gary is portraying God as a woman's heavenly father in law. I have never heard that preached.l before. God is equally a father to both sexes.

Lori:

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because a wife’s husband who is a fool has a Father in heaven so anything a wife does for her foolish husband, she is doing for her “Father-in-law.”

Wha??  So God is Lori's fil?  Is that what she tells herself to keep from hitting him again??

Lori (again):

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It makes perfect sense in the context of the book. “You see, worship of God as Father-in-Law helps keep our hearts soft and prevents us from the scourge of so many marriages: taking our spouses for granted. It also encourages us to stop being a ‘prosecuting attorney’ and to start living as a ‘defense counselor.’

This is....something I've never heard before.  God=FIL?  Nope.  Never heard of it.

Apparently, I'm not the only one:

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 I’m a bit confused about this post.

 

Well, never mind that.  Moving along, Lori has posted yet another exciting picture of her "lunch salad".  You won't want to miss it.

[ViolaSebastian]

WTF?! Never in my life have I heard of "God as father-in-law." That's dangerously close to heresy for my taste. I'm just as much a child of God as any man.

[Koala]

This harkens back to her (now deleted) "Women weren't created in the image of God" post.  She seems to latch onto ideas that trick her into being nice to other people.  

Never works (as she usually treats other people like absolute crap), but I doubt she realizes that.

[polecat]

1 hour ago, Koala said:

Lori's Instagram has fan girls going 

Reader:

Lori:

Wha??  So God is Lori's fil?  Is that what she tells herself to keep from hitting him again??

Lori (again):

This is....something I've never heard before.  God=FIL?  Nope.  Never heard of it.

Apparently, I'm not the only one:

 

Well, never mind that.  Moving along, Lori has posted yet another exciting picture of her "lunch salad".  You won't want to miss it.

She's lost her dang mind. 

[smittykins]

Assuming she had a mind to begin with...

(BEC, I know.)

[squiddysquid]

@Koala Ooh, I like Aunt Jenny! Thanks for the link!

Lori Alexander
Yes, my aunt admitted their mother did not teach or show them submission.

Genevra Ower · 228 weeks ago
Neither did our father teach us submission. I have asked a number of my (84 year old) friends who were born in Zion and grew up in the same church and community whether their parents had taught them to obey and be submissive to their husbands, and after recovering from their surprise at the question, they basically said "No". One was married to a minister, and he told her they were partners, and would love and serve each other. You scripture references are mostly from the epistles, and the disciples were trying to establish a new church in a pagan, patriarchal society. My daily reminder to myself is, "Keep your eyes upon Jesus..." Did Jesus tell us to be submissive and obey our husbands?

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Genevra Ower · 228 weeks ago
A husband is also called to love his wife, and give himself for her. Love is the common denominator, and that is our special calling. And it does require taking on the form of a servant.

Lori Alexander
· 228 weeks ago
Yes, that is true but I only teach women!

[Hane]

@EowynW, (((hugs))). I join everyone else in hoping that a good job comes along for you soon.

Lori is clueless. Decades ago, when I wasn’t exactly rolling in dough, I was driving home from church one Sunday morning. I had put $5 in the collection basket and had bought the Sunday paper and a few donuts—less than ten bucks overall. And I remember telling myself how many people out there couldn’t afford this tiny luxury of contributing to their church and having a snack over the newspaper.

[Koala]

30 minutes ago, squiddysquid said:

@Koala Ooh, I like Aunt Jenny! Thanks for the link!

Her other aunt has chimed in too...

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Aunt Roselyn here, Lori. I am very distressed by the simplistic way you describe 'both sides.' I am a self-identified liberal, as are many of the friends I spend time with. I and many of my friends believe in God, that the world is God's good creation, and that we are called to be good stewards of His creation. We love children and many of us have spent our lives working with them. If believing the words of Jesus, "Feed my sheep, give water to the thirsty, and clothe the naked," makes me a socialist, I welcome the label. Your generalizations are hurtful.

Lori totally ignored her Aunt, and called Ken and his Horse of TRUTH...again.

http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2016/09/comparing-those-on-left-and-on-right.html

Another Aunt Genny comment:

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My husband and I had much respect for our children, and confidence in their ability to make good decisions, as they had been taught and been doing before they were adults. They were taught that this world is God's GOOD creation, and no matter where they go in His world, they would encounter good people. They were taught to treat people with respect, and that they were persons of value. You sound like you are looking out on this world from an ivory tower, and don't really know what it is like. I live in a very diverse society, ethnically and economically, and I encounter wonderful, caring people every day. I can't imagine keeping adult offspring home to protect them. Two of my childhood friends lost sons who were bright, athletic, and very promising, and were in "safe" colleges. One, at a christian college, fell while scrimmaging, hit his head hard, and died of a cerebral hemorrhage. The other was out for a Saturday afternoon drive, and ran into an abutment. I still mourn their loss forty years later. We send our children out with a prayer on our lips, for we, and they, are always vulnerable. And.....I do not agree with your treatise on women being meek. Loving, hardworking, respectful, striving to always do what is best for your family....and that applies to the husband, also. Loving is what it's about!!

 

Aunt Roselyn:

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Hi Lori, Aunt Roselyn here again. I enjoy reading your blog, but I have the same comment as last time. I wish you would clearly attribute your source. As I read this post, I wondered if you had written it, or maybe Ken, as he frequently contributes. At the end of the post, I saw (John Piper). Did he write the entire post or the last paragraph? I would like to know the source at the beginning of the post. Such as, "I enjoyed this writing by John Piper and I want a to share it with you." It is a matter of intellectual integrity. 

 

[ViolaSebastian]

Really questionable that she can't even reply to her own aunt and has to send her husband in to do it for her. 

[Hisey]

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These "non-violent" people spent "four long hours" hitting an 18 month old.  Let that sink in. 

I guess pain is not as great a motivator as she says it is.

The truth is, she says "pain is a great motivator" because she WANTS to inflict pain. In reality, she was repeatedly striking a baby who, most likely, was too overwhelmed and confused to do anything but cry.

You really can't beat an 18 month old in compliance, because being hit causes them to cry, and then they become afraid, get angry, then get scared they are angry. At that point, they become overwhelmed by their feelings and stop hearing you.

I doubt Alyssa knew what the hell was going on during that four-hour discipline session.She probably only heard, "Blah, blah, blah RAISINS blah blah -- pain!--blah, blah YOU HEARD ME  blah blah--pain!" Remember, at 18 months, she doesn't even know that raisins on the floor is a bad or undesirable thing.

[Koala]

Lori is just hateful.  She's got plenty of time to write a post telling other people how to be good mothers (like she knows), she's even got time to post a picture of her "lunch salad", but Alyssa's birthday post?  Not a word.  Lori didn't respond at.all.

 

[Sarah92]

Idk much about children but instead of beating them I'd probably be like "Alyssa sweetie, can you help mommy pick up the raisins you spilled? We gotta keep food off the floor so nasty bugs don't get inside. It's good to clean up when we drop something". Idk make a game of it. And then keep modeling it. But just spanking a kid for hours? Too cruel.

When my nieces came to live with us for a while they're were very scared to eat new foods because they spent years literally just eating noodles and hot dogs while their parents were being idiots. It took hours and a lot of patience to get them to try bits of things. Cheese sticks became the ultimate bribe. A bit of something and then a piece of cheese stick. Lori would have beaten them, I sat at the table with them. We couldn't afford to feed them separately from what we ate even if it would be easier (but much more unhealthy). They came out of it with genuine dislikes (carrots for one of them) and genuine loves (brussel sprouts for the other). -

[Koala]

We always had clean-up games when mine were little.  I would turn on a fun song, and we'd have a race to see how many things we could put away before the song ended.  We also did, "Okay, let's see who can pick up ___# of toys!"  Worked every single time, and I have such sweet memories of those days...

In fact, I am planning on these memories getting me through the rough days when I'm old.  We've always lived in the same house, and in my mind, I can still picture tiny feet racing around the living room, singing silly songs, and tossing toys in their baskets.  So thankful for that...

What has Lori got?  Surveys about how her kids perceived their beatings.  Memories of spending 4 hours w/ Ken, taking turns hitting Alyssa?  

God forbid that anyone should be such a "mother".  A wild animal would do a far better job.

 

[polecat]

1 hour ago, Koala said:

Her other aunt has chimed in too...

Lori totally ignored her Aunt, and called Ken and his Horse of TRUTH...again.

http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2016/09/comparing-those-on-left-and-on-right.html

Another Aunt Genny comment:

 

Aunt Roselyn:

 

Maybe she needs to start learning from these -- what does she call herself? -- older, wiser women. 

[Koala]

1 minute ago, polecat said:

Maybe she needs to start learning from these -- what does she call herself? -- older, wiser women. 

They have far more class than their niece, that's for sure...

[FluffySnowball]

1 hour ago, Hisey said:

I guess pain is not as great a motivator as she says it 

You really can't beat an 18 month old in compliance, because being hit causes them to cry, and then they become afraid, get angry, then get scared they are angry. At that point, they become overwhelmed by their feelings and stop hearing you.

I doubt Alyssa knew what the hell was going on during that four-hour discipline session.She probably only heard, "Blah, blah, blah RAISINS blah blah -- pain!--blah, blah YOU HEARD ME  blah blah--pain!" Remember, at 18 months, she doesn't even know that raisins on the floor is a bad or undesirable thing.

I’m sorry but I couldn’t find Lori’s post you referred to. I haven’t read a lot BY her and rather about here here and a google search didn’t direct me to the raisins-on-the-floor incident. Could someone please help me out?

[Koala]

Lori's humble brag:

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 I’ve always had a soft and teachable heart to the ways of the Lord

Lori's complaints:

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Women stop reading my blog when I write about spanking and submission. They have unteachable hearts. 

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We have mentored a couple who decided they didn't want to meet with us after the first time. I have met with women who have decided the same thing. They don't like being corrected or told they are doing anything wrong. I seriously doubt they will ever have a great marriage.

So if you don't listen to Lori, you don't have a "soft, teachable" heart.  

I would suggest that it's Lori who doesn't have a teachable heart.  She certainly didn't seem anxious to learn from the older women that the Lord has put in her life....

@FluffySnowball

19 minutes ago, FluffySnowball said:

I’m sorry but I couldn’t find Lori’s post you referred to. I haven’t read a lot BY her and rather about here here and a google search didn’t direct me to the raisins-on-the-floor incident. Could someone help? 

I can.

Here are the references to that incident:

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We never had to get to this point.  The first time our children had a temper tantrum or refused to obey us, around 18 months, Ken and I would take turns telling them to pick up the toys {or whatever they were refusing to do} and then give them a swat on their bottom if they wouldn't do it.  With all four of our children, it took almost four long, difficult hours.

Finally, they submitted, picked up their toys, and we cuddled with them.  We won the war.  They never had a temper tantrum after that, were mean to their siblings, and obeyed us quickly.  They knew we were boss, not them.

This can be found in this post:

http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2012/03/breaking-their-will.html

In the comments she says:

In another post she writes:

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However, there came a time when they were unwilling to obey us; somewhere between 18 months and two years old. It was a battle of the wills and who would have authority. It happened with all four of our children. 

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When our first daughter had her first and last "temper tantrum," we had no idea it would take hours of disciplining but we knew that it was very important to show her that she was going to do as we say. This takes "patient perseverance" as the Pearls call it. When we had the other children, we were prepared for their first episode and Ken and I would take turns. It wasn't fun for any of us but we were both very serious about our children obeying us as God has commanded them to do.

In the comments she says:

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We told them to pick up their raisins. They refused so we spanked them and told them to pick up their raisins and they still refused. We would tell them several more times to pick up their raisins but they wouldn't so we spanked them. It wasn't as much about the part of spanking them since it didn't hurt that much but about the consistency and not allowing them to get their way. It was one only one swat each time. They were bawling their eyes out the entire time. They did not want to pick up the raisins and obey us. It was absolutely a battle of the wills. Ken and I would take turns sitting on the floor with them. We were not going to allow their stubborn will to prevail. They would eventually pick up their raisins while sobbing and then fall into our arms.

The above can be found in this post:

http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2016/05/to-train-up-child-chapter-one.html#idc-container

There may be more, but that probably answers your question.

 

[Liza]

35 minutes ago, Koala said:

Women stop reading my blog when I write about spanking and submission. They have unteachable hearts. 

@Koala:  thanks for all the quotes about Lori.  I had forgotten some and never knew about the others.  These people are sadistic.  I am just disgusted right now. 

I wonder how many fundamentalists  ... taking the Bible literally ... do these things.  The patriarchy with submission and  the abuse of children ... it seems like such a violent form of Christianity.  I guess when you believe in a tyrannical, monster God, who will send you to Hell for anything and everything, you lose whatever compassion and love you might have had.  I see no love in this woman .. none at all. 

WTF does this even mean?   You don't decide to like or to love.  You either do or you do not.  This woman is nuts.  She is totally and completely out of touch.  One of her kids said she is black and white and not emotional ... yeah, that is putting it nicely.

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

9 hours ago, EowynW said:

Last night in the middle of our anniversary dinner, I got a text from my boss saying I no longer had a job.

I know TX is a right to work state, but did he give a reason?  Was that it  -- as in don't bother to come in today? What a mustard  (think 2nd letter of alphabet instead of M).

Thoughts and prayers that something much better comes right along.  And since I suspect you'll hear this from parents and in-laws:  Do not weaken and even consider that this is a sign to get pregnant.

 Hugs to you both