Maxwell 17: Life After John Left

[theologygeek]

24 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

What parent wants their adult children to be nothing but a stay at home son or daughter? I’d see it as a poor reflection on me as a parent if my adult kids did nothing with their lives except live at home and have to have someone they are accountable to. 

The part I bolded would be me the other day.   Confession time.  A couple of days ago, my daughter who lives in another state called me up.  She has been sick for a week.  She called me and said "I want my mommy."  I just wanted to put her to bed, make her soup, and baby the heck out of her.  Some of my adult sons still live home.  One moved back.  This house is like a revolving door and sometimes I don't know who I am going to see when I wake up in the morning because my kids bring home everyone and their mother.  I can't even bring a man in this house if I want a one night stand.  My sons are so damn protective of me they would stare him down and scare him away.  I have to go out if I want to have man time.  So there are times I say to myself that I wish they would move out already.  But the other day...I went into such a funk after I hung up with my daughter that I questioned everything in life.  All these crazy things were going through my head.  I actually wished I had what the Maxwells had.  Just being honest here.  I wanted my baby with me forever.  I was like what if she has the flu, people are dying from the flu, does her boyfriend know what to do if she can't breathe or something, why does the news keep talking about the flu and making people neurotic, etc  I got myself so worked up that I ended up depressed about it and actually said the Maxwells don't have this problem, and maybe if I raised my kids like they were raised my daughter would be with me.  They started to look blessed to me because they have their kids and grandchildren right near them and they see them all the time.  I came to my senses, but when my daughter was sick and said she wanted her mommy, all rationale went out the window and I worked myself up into a frenzy. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

2 hours ago, sparkles said:

I’m gonna go out on a limb and predict that Anna will be married before the end of the year. I’ve said before that I think both Anna and Mary will escape spinsterhood and I just have a feeling that Anna’s in the on-deck circle. They’ve been giving her the hard sell as the perfect pioneer wife. 

But I honestly can't think of anyone Steve would approve of. We know they like John Marie but he's taken. What fundie can buy a home debt free? Well I guess John David could but I think that ship has already sailed. If JD hasn't gotten together with Sarah or Anna yet, I don't think they ever will. 

[MamaJunebug]

1 hour ago, purjolok84 said:

What do people say? 'You must kill the head vampire!'

All jokes and comparisons aside, I think this will be the only way. And maybe not even then. Because who consoles and teaches Sarah and the other girls that they are worthwhile and can do more with their lives?

Aunt Tami?

Or her “father’s sister” who showed up at John’s nuptials?

[lilith]

41 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

But I honestly can't think of anyone Steve would approve of. We know they like John Marie but he's taken. What fundie can buy a home debt free? Well I guess John David could but I think that ship has already sailed. If JD hasn't gotten together with Sarah or Anna yet, I don't think they ever will. 

I don’t think Steve would ever approve a Duggar. He wouldn’t want his kids on TV (can you imagine him dealing with a TLC controlled wedding?), i think he views the Duggars as altogether too worldly and liberal, and I don’t think he’s one of the fundies who would minimise Josh’s scandals - he would view the whole family as tainted by the molestations and he would be appalled that Josh as been viewing porn and suspicious of the computer/media controls in place. 

[grammyj]

The conference the Max are scheduled to do the end of Feb. Doesn't it look odd for them to be dragging three spinster daughters along?  OK, I give Mary a pass--she's only 21. But it's not like Anna or Sarah are helping out with their boyfriends along, or that they are between relationships.  I mean anyone who knows anything at all about the family knows how unapproachable those daughters seem, guarded by Steve.  It's a wonder he doesn't throw chastity belts into the mix whenever his daughters leave the house.  In my view, they are nothing more than chattel to Steve   and I use this word intentionally.

I'm not forgetting the last son but I give him a pass as well because he's what 22/23?  Still young . He has different Steve-induced problems. 

Why do I care?!  Why can't I look away from this train wreck........ And I don't think anything is ever going to change.

[Hane]

3 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

What parent wants their adult children to be nothing but a stay at home son or daughter? I’d see it as a poor reflection on me as a parent if my adult kids did nothing with their lives except live at home and have to have someone they are accountable to. 

Yes, but you aren’t dead-on convinced that your children will burn in Hell for all eternity if they don’t live their entire lives according to your frighteningly restrictive vision of theology and morality. 

[grammyj]

Theology based entirely on fear. I remember a quote I heard once (I might be paraphrasing a bit) from a recovering alcoholic who said addicts are "selfish, self-centered and full of fear."  And I'm looking at the Teri and Steve religious zealots and their ilk. Addicted to religion and scared all the time .  Ugh

[Lgirlrocks]

2 hours ago, theologygeek said:

The part I bolded would be me the other day.   Confession time.  A couple of days ago, my daughter who lives in another state called me up.  She has been sick for a week.  She called me and said "I want my mommy."  I just wanted to put her to bed, make her soup, and baby the heck out of her.  Some of my adult sons still live home.  One moved back.  This house is like a revolving door and sometimes I don't know who I am going to see when I wake up in the morning because my kids bring home everyone and their mother.  I can't even bring a man in this house if I want a one night stand.  My sons are so damn protective of me they would stare him down and scare him away.  I have to go out if I want to have man time.  So there are times I say to myself that I wish they would move out already.  But the other day...I went into such a funk after I hung up with my daughter that I questioned everything in life.  All these crazy things were going through my head.  I actually wished I had what the Maxwells had.  Just being honest here.  I wanted my baby with me forever.  I was like what if she has the flu, people are dying from the flu, does her boyfriend know what to do if she can't breathe or something, why does the news keep talking about the flu and making people neurotic, etc  I got myself so worked up that I ended up depressed about it and actually said the Maxwells don't have this problem, and maybe if I raised my kids like they were raised my daughter would be with me.  They started to look blessed to me because they have their kids and grandchildren right near them and they see them all the time.  I came to my senses, but when my daughter was sick and said she wanted her mommy, all rationale went out the window and I worked myself up into a frenzy. 

The difference between you and them is they don’t really let their adult children do anything. They don’t really work outside of the home and their daughters are reliant upon them for everything. 

[CyborgKin]

Someone asked a couple of pages ago whether Steve ever felt accountable for his daughter's singleness.  I though that's what he has an accountability partner for

Or maybe he thinks The Reversals make up for any singleness in the next generation?

[purjolok84]

Aunt Tami?
Or her “father’s sister” who showed up at John’s nuptials?

That's true!

They've been so completely erased from the webpage that even I had forgotten other family existed - too many entries concerning the cleaning of ceiling fans, sharing small amounts of food and badly lit, arranged pictures of 'approved' family will do that to you. [emoji853]

[elliha]

12 hours ago, Granwych said:

You say  "dignity," I say  "asshole-ness."

I took on his perspective here but yes, for the rest of us these are interchangeable. 

[theologygeek]

8 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

The difference between you and them is they don’t really let their adult children do anything. They don’t really work outside of the home and their daughters are reliant upon them for everything. 

I know you're right but I miss my daughter so much.  Visits aren't enough.  I want her home with me.  She's my princess.  My friends do things with their daughters and put the pictures on facebook.  I just look at the pictures and sigh.  It's starting to get to me.  She lives with her boyfriend and is going to get engaged on Valentine's Day.  She doesn't know it yet.  Then the babies are going to come and I'm not going to see my grandchildren any time I want.  She loves her job and makes good money.  Her boyfriend loves his job and makes good money.  The two of them were made for each other and I love my future son-in-law.  Anyone who can put up with the tornado that is my daughter is okay in my book.  She is a force to be reckoned with.  But she's my little tornado and I wish she would move closer to home.  She'd hate it though.  There's more work where she is now and she is thriving in her chosen field. 

[Fascinated]

7 minutes ago, theologygeek said:

I know you're right but I miss my daughter so much.  Visits aren't enough.  I want her home with me.  She's my princess.  My friends do things with their daughters and put the pictures on facebook.  I just look at the pictures and sigh.  It's starting to get to me.  She lives with her boyfriend and is going to get engaged on Valentine's Day.  She doesn't know it yet.  Then the babies are going to come and I'm not going to see my grandchildren any time I want.  She loves her job and makes good money.  Her boyfriend loves his job and makes good money.  The two of them were made for each other and I love my future son-in-law.  Anyone who can put up with the tornado that is my daughter is okay in my book.  She is a force to be reckoned with.  But she's my little tornado and I wish she would move closer to home.  She'd hate it though.  There's more work where she is now and she is thriving in her chosen field. 

I get it, I really do.  But, holy hell, it sounds like you have raised an accomplished and independent woman and of that you should be immensely proud (as I’m sure you are). That is our job as parents. Missing your daughter is normal and expected, but don’t be looking at the Maxwells with any kind of envy.  They are not doing it correctly. 

[theologygeek]

1 hour ago, Fascinated said:

I get it, I really do.  But, holy hell, it sounds like you have raised an accomplished and independent woman and of that you should be immensely proud (as I’m sure you are). That is our job as parents. Missing your daughter is normal and expected, but don’t be looking at the Maxwells with any kind of envy.  They are not doing it correctly. 

I know you're right.  I can't stand the Maxwells.  Steve Maxwell is pure evil.  But all rationale goes out the window when your princess is sick and she wants her mommy, and we're in different states.  I was fine until her boyfriend got the engagement ring.  Then it all hit me and I am a mess of emotions.  I love my sons to pieces but they get on my nerves.  Inept adult males.  They know how to cook but they want me to cook for them.  Italian sons and their mother's cooking...  When I go away for a weekend which I like to do every couple of months, you would think they were going to starve to death.  They work and can fend for themselves.  They drive me crazy.  I love them but a mother daughter relationship is so special. 

[nomoxian]

Here is a post with pictures of the now-elusive Aunt Tami

[JemimaPuddle-Duck]

Hugs, @theologygeek My daughter and I are SO close. I want her to go do all the amazing things and also wish she could just stay with me forever lol. Not really-really, but I think you know what I mean.  She now has a job working two full days a week and I miss her like crazy. Growing up is hard to do, and not just for them. 

[Howl]

15 minutes ago, nomoxian said:

Here is a post with pictures of the now-elusive Aunt Tami

Aunt Tami is wearing CAPRIS and sandals (defrauding toes completely visible), and Uncle Rob is wearing manpris!   They look like pleasant, regular people.  Everyone else is wearing shapeless ankle length  frumpers with a shapeless T-shirt underneath. 

[Four is Enough]

I am really a bad mother. I want mine to get their educations, get a job, and MOVE OUT!!

But then, I"m 63. That may have something to do with it. And my parents' expectations were that we'd grow up and move out, and we all did, at age under twenty. So I kind of expect my kids to do the same.

[Coconutwater]

1 hour ago, nomoxian said:

Here is a post with pictures of the now-elusive Aunt Tami

Jesse actually got a cake with candles and everyone looked happy. It’s sad they got cut off from family for being normal. I wonder if they let the night be about Jesse or did Steve cut that off?Steve is such a dick. 

[formerhsfundie]

On 27/01/2018 at 11:27 AM, Bethella said:

I suspect the only way they'll get married is for Steve to die. Teri will be so depressed she won't care what the girls are doing.

You'd be surprised. I bet she would remarry in a flash. She's stayed under Steve's abusive control for so long I think she would find a replacement (as strange as it sounds). And pretend Steve-O never happened.

Teri is a consenting adult to all of this, don't forget. It takes two to make a family franchise. That woman has some deep issues.

[AllisonWndrland]

20 hours ago, johnhugh said:

Do they still do the elderly church for the elderly at the elderly home? It’s not been mentioned on the blog for ages. Didn’t they get kicked out of the last home?

It appears to me the Maxwells have officially started their own church. Amazing Grace Baptist Church meets in an independent living center in Lansing. It's not really mentioned on the blog, but there is a separate page for it on the Tits2 website. Some non-Maxwells appear in the header photo. including a family with several young children. 

[FloraDoraDolly]

20 hours ago, lilith said:

I don’t think Steve would ever approve a Duggar. He wouldn’t want his kids on TV (can you imagine him dealing with a TLC controlled wedding?), i think he views the Duggars as altogether too worldly and liberal, and I don’t think he’s one of the fundies who would minimise Josh’s scandals - he would view the whole family as tainted by the molestations and he would be appalled that Josh as been viewing porn and suspicious of the computer/media controls in place. 

If Steve doesn't want one of his kids marrying a Duggar, I can't say I blame him. Of course, the kids are adults and should be free to do as they wish. But I wouldn't want ANY kid of mine on a reality show. And no, I wouldn't want my future grandchildren around Josh or around the ATI crowd in general. I don't know if Steve avoids that scene because he knows the truth about Gothard, or if it's due to his isolationist tendencies. Whatever the reason, it's one of the smarter things he has done.

[HurricaneBells]

10 hours ago, theologygeek said:

I know you're right but I miss my daughter so much.  Visits aren't enough.  I want her home with me.  She's my princess.  My friends do things with their daughters and put the pictures on facebook.  I just look at the pictures and sigh.  It's starting to get to me. Then the babies are going to come and I'm not going to see my grandchildren any time I want.  

Are you my mum? LOL I look at all the girls with their mums and sigh. I am positive my mother does the same thing (we live 12 hours away from each other). Thank god for technology, 100 years ago you may never have seen the child again once they left. It is hard and painful though at times, i dont know it ever goes away. Alright thats enough gonna start tearing up now. Stay strong Mama!

[SPHASH]

4 hours ago, Howl said:

Aunt Tami is wearing CAPRIS and sandals (defrauding toes completely visible), and Uncle Rob is wearing manpris!   They look like pleasant, regular people.  Everyone else is wearing shapeless ankle length  frumpers with a shapeless T-shirt underneath. 

Aunt Tami also has short hair.

[goldbu]

3 hours ago, AllisonWndrland said:

It appears to me the Maxwells have officially started their own church. Amazing Grace Baptist Church meets in an independent living center in Lansing. It's not really mentioned on the blog, but there is a separate page for it on the Tits2 website. Some non-Maxwells appear in the header photo. including a family with several young children. 

Christopher's family isn't in the picture. Interesting. So it's the Maxwells, (with or without the "Christopher Maxwell Family"??), one other family, and a smattering of old ladies? I bet Chelsy will be super excited to join...