Kaci Lynn is here - Whitney and Zach's 2nd baby

[Illmarryyoujana]

58 minutes ago, metheglyn said:

The really interesting thing is that the pants-clad Whitney pic is no longer publicly available on their instagram. I first saw it on Ellie and Lily's blog, and then found it posted here, but only the pic of Bradley with his pumpkin is now up from their trip. Posters remorse? Terrible comments on the post from people upset about the pants? Who knows, but I don't see it anymore.

Was it from her story? It would have expired a few hours ago, which explains why we can't see it. 

[season of life]

Yeah, those IG icon stories don't stay forever. Plus, she put up a new one and it was of her in pants with Kaci Lynn at a pumpkin patch.

[marmalade]

She banned me from Instagram! I have no clue why; I know better than to comment, or even like pictures, on fundie pages. I have absolutely no clue what I did, but when I went to search her account last night, but I came up empty. Thinking that it was because I was on my laptop (I'd turned my phone off by this point), I tried it again on the phone today. Nada. 

Anyone else get the banhammer from her? 

[VelociRapture]

3 minutes ago, marmalade said:

She banned me from Instagram! I have no clue why; I know better than to comment, or even like pictures, on fundie pages. I have absolutely no clue what I did, but when I went to search her account last night, but I came up empty. Thinking that it was because I was on my laptop (I'd turned my phone off by this point), I tried it again on the phone today. Nada. 

Anyone else get the banhammer from her? 

Nope. Still showing up for me. 

[marmalade]

I am truly at a loss. My username is nothing she could connect to this place (if she is even aware of its existence), and my avatar is a CAT! Go figure...

[bal maiden]

Well, we all know that cats worship Ceiling Cat rather than Jeebus, those ungodly beasts. 

[actuallyjessica]

I also find it interesting that she has only shown herself wearing pants on the IG stories - people can't leave comments under those. So no "OMG PANTS" x50793$3020 like each time Alyssa bravely posted her legs individually covered.

I wonder if she will ever post a pic to her main IG feed?

I am glad that others agree that some thought has gone into the donning of the pants, we just don't know the reasoning. I doubt it's "oh, might wear pants today" and throwing them on.

Might be "well, I love the lord and don't see how me wearing pants will change that"

Might be "I don't want to restrict my attire to skirts only, because skirts can be impractical at times"

Could also be "wear pants. Trick all of the people. Take over the world??"

Could be that Zach's very secular job had something to do with the shift, maybe they don't want to be known as the "weirdos who only wear skirts?", maybe after she had Kaci and thought "why should we force her to wear skirts? It won't make her a better or worse person"

Lots of theories and it's possible none of these are even close.

I do predict that more of this family will appear to loosen some rules like attire, TV. As time goes on.

However small a step, go them. Pants are the superior clothing. Haha!

[Granwych]

I'd be more impressed if they'd leave those cabbage-sized bows off the baby girl.

[twinmama]

On 10/3/2016 at 11:49 AM, VelociRapture said:

I see an all-female group of OBGYNs. Partly because I'm more comfortable and partly because they are phenomenal Doctors. I have a ton of respect for them and the effort they put in to becoming Doctors.

I have found the best experience is to go to a practice that is all female doctors and 1 male doctor. Every time I'd call for an appointment, they'd ask if I wanted a female doctor and I said it didn't matter and got an immediate appointment with the male doc. Never had to wait  It was also good because when I was on hospital bedrest while pregnant, I had no choice of only female doctors, there were people I'd never met up in there checking stuff out!!

On 10/10/2016 at 9:02 PM, RosyDaisy said:

That means nothing.

It means she's making a choice for herself.

[sophie10130]

My mom, whose belly I have NEVER seen and would rather die than to have anyone see her naked, always said she liked male doctors better because they don't try to joke around with her like all the female ob/gyns she had. She said she'd rather it just be super formal and not them trying to be all buddy buddy with her like, "Well we all have to do it, haha!"

[VineHeart137]

1 hour ago, sophie10130 said:

My mom, whose belly I have NEVER seen and would rather die than to have anyone see her naked, always said she liked male doctors better because they don't try to joke around with her like all the female ob/gyns she had. She said she'd rather it just be super formal and not them trying to be all buddy buddy with her like, "Well we all have to do it, haha!"

I actually had a friend who said something similar. She said in her experience male OB/GYNs tend to be more straightforward and to the point, which she preferred, while the female doctors were too chatty for her taste lol. Personally, I've always been more comfortable with female OB/GYNs. I purposefully picked an all-female practice when I was pregnant, so that no matter who was on call it would be a woman. Of course I would have been out of luck if there was a male nurse at the hospital, but there weren't any.

[JemimaPuddle-Duck]

1 hour ago, VineHeart137 said:

I actually had a friend who said something similar. She said in her experience male OB/GYNs tend to be more straightforward and to the point, which she preferred, while the female doctors were too chatty for her taste lol. Personally, I've always been more comfortable with female OB/GYNs. I purposefully picked an all-female practice when I was pregnant, so that no matter who was on call it would be a woman. Of course I would have been out of luck if there was a male nurse at the hospital, but there weren't any.

This is me. I also feel like women compare me to themselves ("well, I've never experienced that" or "yes, I know how that feels" when they clearly don't) whereas men have nothing to compare to. And it's funny, because I know some women dislike male docs for that very reason. And as luck would have it, every negative Doctor/patient experience I've had has been with a woman. I did see a female CNM for awhile who practiced with my male ObGyn and I adored her, but generally I'll take a man any day. 

[missegeno]

I also prefer male docs, though before this discussion, I always thought I was the only one. My last clinic gave me the option of "female only" or "no preference." I second pretty much everything @JemimaPuddle-Duck said before me, it feels like it puts the focus more on what I express to them, rather than inferences based on their own personal experience. For me it expands beyond the ob/gyn and MD/nurse sphere, too. When I was getting mental health help, I always felt most open with male counselors. I can see, though, how others would like a professional to be able to make those inferences that I don't like. I'm going to take a moment now to appreciate the fact that I was able to discover this myself instead of having one option forced upon me. Yay.

[VelociRapture]

6 hours ago, sophie10130 said:

My mom, whose belly I have NEVER seen and would rather die than to have anyone see her naked, always said she liked male doctors better because they don't try to joke around with her like all the female ob/gyns she had. She said she'd rather it just be super formal and not them trying to be all buddy buddy with her like, "Well we all have to do it, haha!"

I guess I lucked out. None of the Doctors at the practice I go to are like that and they're all females. They're very friendly and warm, but they're also highly professional too. 

When I miscarried there was no attempting to compare my pain to others or trying to say they understood completely what I was experiencing. The Doctor was highly sympathetic and told me to call if I needed anything at all, but she also gave me the information I needed to know and she didn't try to sugar coat it (which I appreciated). It's been the same with my second pregnancy too. 

[infooverload]

I remember one time my doctors office screwed up and scheduled my appointment on the Westside of town. At the time I worked downtown and had scheduled the appointment close to when I got off and had already put in for my approved time off and the appointment was the next day. I told the receptionist could you please get me into the original location I thought I had scheduled for. She looked and goes oh our male doctor is available I said hey normally I go to women, but I would be open to an exam by a man. She proceeds to schedule the appointment and sing his praises about his 30 years worth of experience. I was a little nervous the day of the appointment new doctor and all. Anyway said doctor exam was not a great experience. He mentioned having problems navigating my anatomy and basically seemed more like a bumbling intern than experienced doctor. Now I make sure I always see my female doctor. She does a pap smear so quick I joke she treats it like a bank robbery. Get what you need and get out. The other bonus is she puts me at ease since her oldest child is the same age as mine. Basically I just want someone competent who is straight to the point, but can still have a modicum of decent bed side manner. Comes off as genuine even if they're faking it. I know a tall order. I also take into account the support staff of the office. I was sad when the old MA left my doctors office she was effecient and nice.

[feministxtian]

I prefer female doctors. I have always felt that male doctors didn't take me seriously and the last straw was when I broke my foot...and the male doctor said that a bone that was broken into three pieces and not aligned would heal on its own. My current doc is female and is taking my issues seriously...and is the one who has told me she will keep digging until we find the answers. Every single male doctor has brushed me off. 

Ok...there are two male doctors that I will love until my dying day...and those are the doctors that saved my husband's life with their skill, empathy and knowledge. 

[Fascinated]

Are these last two examples a function of being male or just kinda shitty doctors?  For OB/GYN stuff I prefer a female I think. I hate it regardless. But, as my son is a doctor, and a really good one, I posit that SOME male doctors are pretty awesome!

 

[faraway]

There's some really great male Gyns out there and I have a feeling here it matters less (Europe) who you go to. Everyone wants a good doctor, some prefer a male, some a female and some don't care. I personally would see a cat if it would benefit my health.

[feministxtian]

Well, many male doctors did not take my gall-bladder issues seriously until I vomited bile on one of them. I got "diagnosed" with depression, that is, I hated taking care of my kids so much that I would make myself sick. OR I was an alcoholic and was lying about my alcohol use (I don't drink) 5 years of bullshit. I ended up in emergency surgery to have my gall bladder removed since it was about to burst. 

My current issues were also dismissed as being "all in my head" for years too. It's taken years but finally my FEMALE doctor came to the conclusion that something HAS to be wrong because a normal woman's hands and feet aren't swollen like mine are, and your skin hurting isn't normal either. Male docs...turned it all into some psychological issue...like "you just don't want people to touch you..." bullshit. No asshole...being touched HURTS...like being smacked with a paddle that has a million little needles stuck in it...and that's just a gentle touch. 

[JemimaPuddle-Duck]

3 hours ago, feministxtian said:

Well, many male doctors did not take my gall-bladder issues seriously until I vomited bile on one of them. I got "diagnosed" with depression, that is, I hated taking care of my kids so much that I would make myself sick. OR I was an alcoholic and was lying about my alcohol use (I don't drink) 5 years of bullshit. I ended up in emergency surgery to have my gall bladder removed since it was about to burst. 

My current issues were also dismissed as being "all in my head" for years too. It's taken years but finally my FEMALE doctor came to the conclusion that something HAS to be wrong because a normal woman's hands and feet aren't swollen like mine are, and your skin hurting isn't normal either. Male docs...turned it all into some psychological issue...like "you just don't want people to touch you..." bullshit. No asshole...being touched HURTS...like being smacked with a paddle that has a million little needles stuck in it...and that's just a gentle touch. 

I'm so sorry you were treated that way. It has always been female doctors that were condescending toward me; isn't it funny how we all have such different experiences? Now my daughter has a female doc (specialist) and she is the best thing since sliced bread. 

[feministxtian]

I pretty much detest the entire medical establishment...hubs got dicked around by "specialists" for over 4 years when he was sick. I thank the cosmic whatever we moved to Phoenix when we did. One of the foremost doctors for his disease was at the university hospital 90 minutes away in Tucson. It was a shocker when one of the surgeons came out to update me and tell me that if he hadn't had surgery, he wouldn't have made it to our wedding anniversary that was 7 months away. 

[Granwych]

7 hours ago, feministxtian said:

I pretty much detest the entire medical establishment...hubs got dicked around by "specialists" for over 4 years when he was sick. I thank the cosmic whatever we moved to Phoenix when we did. One of the foremost doctors for his disease was at the university hospital 90 minutes away in Tucson. It was a shocker when one of the surgeons came out to update me and tell me that if he hadn't had surgery, he wouldn't have made it to our wedding anniversary that was 7 months away. 

I am so sorry to hear about your problems with doctors.  I think one of the most important things I learned during nursing school was that doctors are not gods, and it's okay and oftentimes downright necessary to question their advice and opinions.

[caitiedid313]

Unfortunately, you're going to get good eggs and bad ones, and that transcends gender. I do a lot of work in medical malpractice, and there are terrible doctors with amazing bedside manner who never get sued, and then you get amazing radiologists, but because they never have patient contact, they're named in suits ALL THE TIME. It's nuts.

I have a very medical family, and actually had to make sure I stopped going to any doctors they had any connection to since my family would say I was being dramatic. It got to the point where it took me over a year to get records after an in-office CT scan revealed a mass in my head. This was 2 days after my step grandfather died of brain cancer. It was distressing, but my mother completely violated hipaa, wrote me off as dramatic, and blocked the doctor from giving me my Records. It was only after I had to get a stealth MRI for other reasons and threatened legal action that I got my records and my tumor diagnosis.

I'm happy to say that my surgery went well. I've had no recurrence as the tumor was benign, and that I actually went to law school and do medmal defense. However two of those doctors who jerked me around are clients and I refuse to do any work on any cases they have.

My current doctors are amazing. My husband worked with one of them briefly and mentioned the whole thing to him. He wanted me to come see him because he didn't want me to be completely distrustful of doctors (hahha). He's amazing and really listens. It's fantastic! I always ask who he respects and recommends when I need specialists--he's never led me astray.

[nastyhobbitses]

I'm pretty lucky in that I've never had major issues with doctors, male or female, unless you count how awkward it was for 18-year-old me to answer my male pediatrician (who was my doctor from age four until age 19 -- squeezed in one last physical when my still-under-18 sister had an appointment) when he asked me if I was sexually active -- it wasn't that he made it awkward or creepy (he was incredibly nice and professional); it was mainly because I'd known the dude pretty much my whole life and it just felt weird to tell a guy who knew you when you were in preschool that yes, you are having quite a lot of protected, responsible sex at college.

I think the only weird gender thing I've ever experienced was when I realized that the guy I worked for during my MA program in London was my first male boss. I'd worked for companies and organizations that had male CEOs and such, but until him, I'd only ever directly reported to female supervisors. He was a staunch feminist and an awesome boss, so it didn't matter much to me; it was just sort of funny to realize that I'd never had a male boss before him.

[imokit]

As a medical student I was doing a placement far far away and got a skin infection in a sensitive area.  Phoned out of hours to get an appointment to get seen for antibiotics and the doctor doing triage on the phone was my GP trainer.  Mid conversation, he realised who I was (I'd twigged it earlier and was ignoring the whole thing and hoping he wouldn't recognise me).  He was very nice and then promised that when I came in for my appointment I could see a female trainee who didn't work at the practice.

It wasn't the male bit which made it awkward it was the working with/being supervised by him bit.