Joshley Madison Pt 8: Are We Still Talking About This?

[Anonymousguest]

And did my eyes deceive me, or did it look like Josh went in for a kiss but Anna backed away at the last second?! :penguin-no:

I thought so too, he seemed to be trying to kiss her each time.

What about towing the line from Anna's father? I guess that only meant protecting his daughter's purity before marriage. Sleeping around on her after is OK.

[st4rfl33t]

JOSH ON THE MERRY GO ROUND! (fast forward to about 1:15)

That's gonna need the brain bleach, after this whole AM thing....

GOD DAMNIT THEY ALWAYS HAVE THEIR STUPID COORDINATED SHIRTS!!!!!! I can't fucking stand it.

That is all. :pink-shock:

[singsingsing]

I'm sorry, did you say something after the quoted bit? I was guffawing too loudly, and I might have missed it. :lol:

What Republican politician do you think is going to be rushing to invite the family whose name and image is now associated in the minds of most Americans with child molestation, adultery, and pornography, to campaign with them?

Someone said "What about Huckabee"

Yes. Huckabee is the only one I can imagine being stupid enough to stick with them. But I doubt even Huckabee would want to be seen with them these days.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

What Republican politician do you think is going to be rushing to invite the family whose name and image is now associated in the minds of most Americans with child molestation, adultery, and pornography, to campaign with them?

Someone said "What about Huckabee"

Yes. Huckabee is the only one I can imagine being stupid enough to stick with them. But I doubt even Huckabee would want to be seen with them these days.

I have such a negative visceral reaction whenever Huckabee opens his mouth I don't think I've ever heard two consecutive sentences from this guy. Is he actually stupid enough to think he has a shot, or does he know this whole campaign thing is an exercise in futility and it's just about ego, his insatiable need for attention, and having a platform (however transient) for his whackadoo notions?

He can't possibly truly think he has a shot? In his quietest moments he's got to admit to himself that this is all a really expensive and useless hobby...no one can be that stupid.

Please someone tell me no one can be that stupid.

[EmmieJ]

I almost forgot about those brown polos.

Me too! And then they are both in green. I guess Anna couldn't find an exact match to Josh's green striped polo shirt. I don't know what was going on with Josh on the merry go round. While Anna has grown and looks so much more polished since those courting days, Josh has just grown around the middle. He's going to end up looking a lot like his FIL, and twice as pervy.

[EmmieJ]

What Republican politician do you think is going to be rushing to invite the family whose name and image is now associated in the minds of most Americans with child molestation, adultery, and pornography, to campaign with them?

Someone said "What about Huckabee"

Yes. Huckabee is the only one I can imagine being stupid enough to stick with them. But I doubt even Huckabee would want to be seen with them these days.

I think Huckabee would not mind being seen with the Duggars, but probably his advisors would steer him away from doing so. Of the many things that Huckabee is not, intelligent is one of them. And I think he's in the race for the money it generates, and also because he, like Trump, crave the limelight. I mean, he did glom onto County Clerk Kim Davis for the photo op.

[ShepherdontheRock]

Me too! And then they are both in green. I guess Anna couldn't find an exact match to Josh's green striped polo shirt. I don't know what was going on with Josh on the merry go round. While Anna has grown and looks so much more polished since those courting days, Josh has just grown around the middle. He's going to end up looking a lot like his FIL, and twice as pervy.

DOES ANYONE ELSE THINK MR. KELLER HAS THE MOST BIZARRE VOICE?

It's like he has defective vocal chords.

Also..."if you get information too soon, then you'll be tempted to make bad decisions" ummmmm I know what crystal meth is. Doesn't mean I'm at all tempted to do it.

[BlackSheep]

JOSH ON THE MERRY GO ROUND! (fast forward to about 1:15)

That's gonna need the brain bleach, after this whole AM thing....

Anna's crunchy hair and stuck-down bangs. Oh Em Gee.

My second post today about her hair. I really did forget how bad it was. Thankfully this has improved. As for other aspects of her life, not so much.

[19 cats and counting]

JOSH ON THE MERRY GO ROUND! (fast forward to about 1:15)

That's gonna need the brain bleach, after this whole AM thing....

Ok can he get any more turned on when she eats that pickle?

It's amazing how different both of them look now.

[st4rfl33t]

Ok can he get any more turned on when she eats that pickle?

It's amazing how different both of them look now.

Yeah I could never understand the appeal of her crimpy hair.. One thing I do know however, is that Josh went from looking like a "barely-post-adolescent up and comer" (before becoming engaged to Anna) to gaining 150lbs and cheating on his wife after discovering the wonders of pornography and chicken choking...

[lookinggoodforjesus]

Hey, Mr. Keller - I'll tell you what training for divorce is. It's pushing your naive, sheltered daughter into marrying a guy who you knew sexually assaulted his little sisters just a couple of years earlier. It's encouraging her to marry a guy of such poor moral character that he had unprotected sex with high-priced hookers. You are repugnant and I hope your kids who have not yet abandoned the cult your forced on them as children wake up and take off immediately. Disgusting man.

- Sue Sundowner, youtube commenter

I agree with most of this. "Training for divorce" .... :wink-kitty:

Josh had never dated anyone before, and look what he still managed to do. Would Anna have been less "protected" if they had dated instead of courtship? No. Did courtship protect Anna's heart? No.

[ClaraOswin]

Didn't he once say it's his favorite room of the house? I'm more concerned as to why there is a framed picture of JB in his teen years in the girls bedroom. (not from these videos, but someone did a screen cap a few months ago in another thread.) I really don't understand that and find it extremely creepy.

Wow. I need to see this!

[Jessa's Feet]

This video makes me cringe. Josh's face while Anna is talking --- does he really buy into this dribble???

Oh.....wow. The end of that. Uncomfortable. Yeah. The whole video was becoming more uncomfortable as it played on but that just nailed it.

I don't know if the poor girl wanted to nervous laugh, cry, turn 50 shades of red, or kill the producers (in a wholesome way). Maybe all at once. Poor sheltered Prissy!

As for smuggar? His face says "Yeahhhh, I'm courtin' ladies on the side and I'm not talking about side hugs. I'm talking about mouth hugs on little smuggar. But you go on talking about that clean wholesome boring stuff. I'm thinking about my social media accounts."

[nastyhobbitses]

Yeah I could never understand the appeal of her crimpy hair.. One thing I do know however, is that Josh went from looking like a "barely-post-adolescent up and comer" (before becoming engaged to Anna) to gaining 150lbs and cheating on his wife after discovering the wonders of pornography and chicken choking...

I do not understand the crimped hair either. It just looks crunchy and artificial and like a child playing with mommy's curling iron. But all the fundie girls were rocking that style until just a few years ago (and Michelle is still wearing it) -- thank god they discovered the wonders of larger-barrel curling irons, heat protectant, and stepping away from the hair gel.

[missegeno]

It bugs me so much how Gil talks about people falling for one person, breaking up, falling for another person, breaking up, etc as preparation for divorce. When I think most people view it more as finding out what is important to you. And it's not getting married to the first person who looks nice to you. Courtship doesn't save you from infatuation, it just makes you marry the first person to infatuate you. They may not do divorce much, but it seems a pretty good way to get into an unhappy marriage. If I wouls have married my first boyfriend, i probably would have never had sex (he is now out as very unwavering gay, and much happier without me as well). My second was incredibly abusive in so many ways. I want to cry just thinking about the idea that i could have been pushed into marriage with either of them. Pa Keller has such a fucked up view of relationships. And that bullshit about towing the line is creepy as f*ck.

[paganhomeschooler]

DOES ANYONE ELSE THINK MR. KELLER HAS THE MOST BIZARRE VOICE?

It's like he has defective vocal chords.

Also..."if you get information too soon, then you'll be tempted to make bad decisions" ummmmm I know what crystal meth is. Doesn't mean I'm at all tempted to do it.

I think he sounds just like Prissy...weird head tilt thing and all. See, she's not delayed....she just had a batshit crazy father to model from. :?

[jinseng]

What does 'towing the line' actually mean? I never understood what Ma and Pa keller meant by that threat, but it sounded off.

[BlackSheep]

What does 'towing the line' actually mean? I never understood what Ma and Pa keller meant by that threat, but it sounded off.

The actual term is "toeing the line".

From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line

"Toe the line" is an idiomatic expression meaning either to conform to a rule or standard, or to stand poised at the starting line in a footrace.

[FlamingFundie]

The actual term is "toeing the line".

From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line

Thank you for the clarification! I always thought it was "tow the line" as in "one has to help tow the line, or pull their weight, or keep up the (whatever)." The other version doesn't seem to click in my brain. Not saying it's incorrect in any way, just that after all this time of thinking it meant one thing it's hard to change now lol.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

Ok can he get any more turned on when she eats that pickle?

It's amazing how different both of them look now.

OMG my dad was right. He was a great dad in many ways, but being comfortable talking about sex/relationships wasn't one of them so as a kid I had NO IDEA why us girls were not allowed to eat a pickle in public without cutting it and using a fork. Ditto drinking directly from any bottle or licking the frosting off a cupcake*. He'd get so mad but it wasn't until I was older that I finally asked mom and she said it was because he thought it could put thoughts into men's heads and he didn't want guys looking at us like that...which I thought was so stupid it had to be made up.

Thank you, Smuggar, for validating my father's crazy, paranoid, and over protective mindset that some guys are pathetic enough to make that connection.

*Not that I'd have done that in public anyway, past the age of learning table manners, because I know it's not polite and what makes eating a cupcake at home sooooo much better because they are more delicious when you can eat them and break the rules.

[MatthewDuggar]

Pickle orgy:

[HerNameIsBuffy]

It bugs me so much how Gil talks about people falling for one person, breaking up, falling for another person, breaking up, etc as preparation for divorce. When I think most people view it more as finding out what is important to you. And it's not getting married to the first person who looks nice to you. Courtship doesn't save you from infatuation, it just makes you marry the first person to infatuate you. They may not do divorce much, but it seems a pretty good way to get into an unhappy marriage. If I wouls have married my first boyfriend, i probably would have never had sex (he is now out as very unwavering gay, and much happier without me as well). My second was incredibly abusive in so many ways. I want to cry just thinking about the idea that i could have been pushed into marriage with either of them. Pa Keller has such a fucked up view of relationships. And that bullshit about towing the line is creepy as f*ck.

This pieces of the heart thing bothers me so much. Here's my question in regards to that: If the love you have to bestow is finite so that when you love once you have less love the next time...does that mean the more kids they have the less they love each of them? I mean it stands to reason if we have a finite amount of love that my few kids each get a far bigger percentage of mine than they would if there were 19 of them.

Now, I was taught that love expands which is why love for child can't possibly diminish a parents love for the others. The theory was that my parents loved us individually and had distinct relationships with each of us which differed from kid to kid and at different times for each of us. The love was constant but the relationships would go through changes because ..."kids are like people that way" - ™

I gave away more pieces of my heart (among other things) more than I care to admit before I settled down and I have to say if any of those guys are hanging on to those pieces I'm shit out of luck since I can't send someone to repo my heart since I don't remember a lot of names. And the longer term guys who I do remember...pretty sure they circular filed me decades ago.

Now I'm wondering about my major heart pieces. In college I had two major boyfriends, lets call them Goofus and Gallant. Goofus was intense and we'd break up a lot, so during some of these breaks I'd be seeing Gallant, who was a very nice guy...too nice for me to appreciate him at the time. I married Goofus quite young and we had 10 years and some awesome kids...and a divorce. A couple of years post divorce I ran into Gallant (who I hadn't seen since college) and we have now been married 10+ years.

While part of me wishes I didn't lose so much time with Gallant, in all honesty I can't regret my time with Goofus. Our babies are just who they should be and our love was very real. I just prefer to think of it as something not having to be forever to be critically important. And I honestly don't think it would have lasted if I had opted for Gallant first since I had a lot of growing up to do before I could appreciate his more low key approach to life.

So I have those heart pieces away, but got them back? And then lost the other ones - but kept a little because I still care about him as the father of my children? So the next time my ex blows into town I'll have former and current headships sit down and negotiate for missing heart pieces just so we can keep them all in one location. Maybe get a safe deposit box since I can't be trusted to hang onto them.

It's been a while since a fundy tried to convert me, but it used to happen fairly often. I should have just told them about my life and then they wouldn't have bothered - I could never fit into their little boxes so it's easier to just leave me to my sinning. For some of us cutting the lawn in a bikini wasn't the most scandalous thing we've ever done.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

Pickle orgy:

It's official - I'm more repressed than a Duggar!

[nausicaa]

I do not understand the crimped hair either. It just looks crunchy and artificial and like a child playing with mommy's curling iron. But all the fundie girls were rocking that style until just a few years ago (and Michelle is still wearing it) -- thank god they discovered the wonders of larger-barrel curling irons, heat protectant, and stepping away from the hair gel.

I hate, hate, hate hair that looks permanently wet. It's probably the worst hair trend in my opinion, even worse than mullets and rat tails. I couldn't stand it fifteen years ago when the cool girls in school did it, and have no idea why anyone would continue to wear their hair that way.

[Jessa's Feet]

This pieces of the heart thing bothers me so much. Here's my question in regards to that: If the love you have to bestow is finite so that when you love once you have less love the next time...does that mean the more kids they have the less they love each of them? I mean it stands to reason if we have a finite amount of love that my few kids each get a far bigger percentage of mine than they would if there were 19 of them.

Now, I was taught that love expands which is why love for child can't possibly diminish a parents love for the others. The theory was that my parents loved us individually and had distinct relationships with each of us which differed from kid to kid and at different times for each of us. The love was constant but the relationships would go through changes because ..."kids are like people that way" - ™

I gave away more pieces of my heart (among other things) more than I care to admit before I settled down and I have to say if any of those guys are hanging on to those pieces I'm shit out of luck since I can't send someone to repo my heart since I don't remember a lot of names. And the longer term guys who I do remember...pretty sure they circular filed me decades ago.

Now I'm wondering about my major heart pieces. In college I had two major boyfriends, lets call them Goofus and Gallant. Goofus was intense and we'd break up a lot, so during some of these breaks I'd be seeing Gallant, who was a very nice guy...too nice for me to appreciate him at the time. I married Goofus quite young and we had 10 years and some awesome kids...and a divorce. A couple of years post divorce I ran into Gallant (who I hadn't seen since college) and we have now been married 10+ years.

While part of me wishes I didn't lose so much time with Gallant, in all honesty I can't regret my time with Goofus. Our babies are just who they should be and our love was very real. I just prefer to think of it as something not having to be forever to be critically important. And I honestly don't think it would have lasted if I had opted for Gallant first since I had a lot of growing up to do before I could appreciate his more low key approach to life.

So I have those heart pieces away, but got them back? And then lost the other ones - but kept a little because I still care about him as the father of my children? So the next time my ex blows into town I'll have former and current headships sit down and negotiate for missing heart pieces just so we can keep them all in one location. Maybe get a safe deposit box since I can't be trusted to hang onto them.

It's been a while since a fundy tried to convert me, but it used to happen fairly often. I should have just told them about my life and then they wouldn't have bothered - I could never fit into their little boxes so it's easier to just leave me to my sinning. For some of us cutting the lawn in a bikini wasn't the most scandalous thing we've ever done.

I like to call this: Heart Pieces Math

I think you've done great. It's when you have to do multiplication, carrying numbers, n+1, or forms of equations to calculate your missing heart pieces. At that point, you know you've given way to many heart pieces away. If you know what I mean. *cough*