Duggars on Megyn Kelly, Friday Night Edition

[ElegantMajesticPearls]

Agenda! Agenda!

Exploiting Women! Porn! :pull-hair: :pull-hair:

[shesinsane]

In explaining to Megyn how no one knew about until Josh confess, Jinger said her parents took the girls aside, individually, to talk to them about what happened. Did that count towards their weekly allotment of one-on-one time with their parents?

[Beagle]

"Hokey pokey with the foia" I think jessa is a degreed law professional

[LittleOleMe]

Jill. Fake crying. Right on cue. :roll:

[Catlover43]

We now live in a country where child molestation is now seen as not a big deal and acceptable. :shock:

[Buzzard]

The Duggar Girls Demonstrate That Stockholm Syndrome is Real - Part 1

Megyn - for the very first time two of the young women inappropriately touched speak out... Jill and Jessa are J'kids... the show is a hit... tonight they reveal themselves as victims to set the record straight.

Its been an "intense few days" - recaps the wednesday interview in all of Boob's grammatical glory. Gives a good glossy sugar coating on how the Duggars handled this mess, including Boob's ridiculous statement that the success rate at real programs sucks. They had nothing to hide...

Media reaction was swift and strong. Shots of other media railing against them ( I mean, persecuting, of course). There is another story, one we havent heard... Jill and Jessa. It had beenthe happiest of times - Izzy... the wedding was "wildly popular"... Jessa is prego and their wedding was a success. As girls they were subject of unwanted touching and today, a media circus.

Megyn introduces them and gets their ages.

How old were you when Josh touched you

Jill - 12

Jessa - 9 or 10

Megyn - you are on the record as a victim, does it feel strange to use that word?

Jill - This wasnt our first choice, we saw the headlines and what people are saying and as victims we had to come out.. .we chose to do it... its lies, not true. For truth's sake we wanted to do this.

Megyn - do you feel like the victim of a molestation?

Jessa - I think in the case of what josh did, it was wrong. I'm not going to justify or say it was ok. I want to speak in his defense to people who are callling him a child molester or pedophile or rapist. It is SO overboard. A lie, really. People will get mad at me for saying it. I can say it because I was one of the victims. In Josh's case he was a young boy in puberty, a little too curious about girls and that got him into some trouble and he made some bad choices but really the extent of it was mild inappropriate touching on fully clothed victims whil...

Jill - We didnt evern know about it until he confessed it to my parents

Jessa - none of the victims were aware of what happened until joshua confessed

Jill - it wasnt like we were keeping a secret afraid or something, it wwas we didnt know until josh explained to our parents what his thought process was

Megyn - How did you learn about it?

Jessa - they took us aside indiividually... you were shocked.

Megyn - your parents told you that you were molested? What was your reaction to that?

Jessa - I was shocked (laughs), It was strange, I was like ... I didnt know, I didnt understand this is what happend until they told me.

Jill - you never think this will happen to me. it was very mild compared to what happens to others so when my parents told me I'm sad and shocked, Ok... I'm sad because this is my older brother who I love a lot and so its conflicting... I was angry at first, how could this happen. My parents expalined what happened and jOsh asked individually to forgive him. I mad ethat choice, wasnt forced. You have to make that decision for yourself.

Megyn - Lets go back in time. Youre 12, 10... your parents sit you down and tell you this happened. Do you remember the year? So did josh go away right after that?

Jessa - He did pretty soon after. I remember at the time I was young so it seems like a whirlwind.

Megyn - Was there time when you were in the house with josh knowing this prior to him going away?

Jessa - Not really. I think that whenever it was brought to my attention it wasnt very long.

Megyn - do you remember a dynamic in the house like "this is my brother" what am I supposed to do with this?

Jill - we were sad when he was sent away. He's your brother but at the same time it was burned in our memory josh made some bad decisions and he's going to suffer the consequences of those decisions.

Megyn - did you get the chance to express that anger to him, did you fight?

Jessa - No, I think we're different than most girls in that he was subtle = he knew in his mind his actions are wrong but he was very sly. The girls didnt catch on. If you catch them sleeping its like a quick feel or like you know if youre just not really aware. They werent awake and not aware. It was very subtle (Jessa repeatedly looks up and to the left and smiles as she's talking). We realize this is seriuos but it wasnt a horror story or this terrible thing where we're like OM goodness... its ridiculous... I think my parents acted. I can see looking back as an adult, they handled this very well . They set up safety guards in our house and they sent josh away and get help. When he came back he was a totally different person.

Megyn - how did that manifest itself?

Jessa - you could just tell. He was repentant. When he came back I could see he made life changes and he'll never go down that path again.

Megyn - did yo ufeel scared he might resume?

Jill - When this happened my dad and mom sat down with us and josh asked us for forgiveness we had to make that choice (this is clearly her pattern line), that I think everyone has to make and my dad explained there is a difference between forgiveness and trust.. you forgive and then you have boundaries. Trust comes later. Josh destroyed that trust at the beginning and so he had to rebuild that. When he came back that was his point... when he asked us to forgive that was the beginning

Megyn - what were the safeguards just to make sure?

Jill - not being alone. No hide and seek where two people go off to hide together (verbatim from michelle),

Jessa - not babysitting girls

Jill - locks on the doors, everybody's in bed - girls in the girls room, boys in the boys (LIE!) and so ... as a mother, now. I look back and think my parents did such an amazing job for me. Even when we went through the DHS investigation they complimented my parents on what an amazing job they did... not only taking the legal actions, going the extra mile, as a mom I hope I can set up the same safeguards in my family (HOLY CRAP WHAT???!?!?) and reaching the heart of their children. Not only taking care of josh but us girls.

Megyn - For the records, did you ever have any trouble with other family members

Girls - no

Megyn - This is about Josh and prior to counseling...

Jessa - My parents did talk to us, they sat down with all of us kids every age and said if anyone touches you come and tell us. You have a voice

Megyn - did you ever think of youself as a victim?

Jill _ I dont believe so

Jessa - in our situation we werent aware that was going on

Megyn - did you go through shame?

Jessa - when we were foing the DHS investigation that was really... its another thing to talk to a complete stranger

Jill - our parents told us to share what happened and they told us to be open and honest, share what happened.

Jessa - we told them and we were honest and my parents said that we could trust them, its a safe place.

[withaj]

"You can't FOIA juvenile cases. EVERYBODY knows that." --Jessa, legal scholar extraordinaire

"Maybe they're just used to making objects out of women and we don't seem any different." --Jessa, MASTER OF IRONY

[HarleyQuinn]

They don't understand the FOIA and have clearly been fed lines by their parents.

[0KidsAndHappy]

There we go with agenda again.

[DuggarCurls]

what, in-touch parent company in porn?

These girls know way too much, well, a hell of a lot more than me.

This is ridiculous. Say goodbye Duggars.

[Librul]

They love the tabloids when their wedding are featured, but not so much when Josh's perversion is featured. Hypocrites, and stupid to boot. Our story is not being told. I'm not a victim, but the victims are the only ones who can speak, and that's us!!!!!

[goldfishgoddess]

I just ate two Symphony bars. With a tramadol.

[TheJewAmongUs]

If these were my parrots, I'd take them back to the pet store. They're stuttering while repeating the lines they've heard.

[instantkarma]

"Agenda" rears its ugly head.....

[pumpkie0]

The crazy eyes are strong with Jessa.

OH MY ... man Jill can turn her crying on at the snap of her fingers.

does it seem like Jess is glaring at Jill as she cries

[2andstopping]

They (the tabloids) are used to making objects out of women??? YOUR culture makes you baby popping sex machines as soon as you get married girls! Doesn't that make you feel objectified??

[justbecause]

"You can't FOIA juvenile cases. EVERYBODY knows that." --Jessa, legal scholar extraordinaire

"Maybe they're just used to making objects out of women and we don't seem any different." --Jessa, MASTER OF IRONY

The parent company is a PORN company! Huh?

[rosethorne]

First time poster, long time lurker...

"You can't FOIA juvenile cases, everybody knows that!" :pink-shock: They do?

OMFG, I can't even....I literally do not have words to describe the anger I feel right now :angry-banghead:

[justbecause]

They (the tabloids) are used to making objects out of women??? YOUR culture makes you baby popping sex machines as soon as you get married girls! Doesn't that make you feel objectified??

Probably not, since they both are with or have kids already.

[CreationMuseumSeasonPass]

Hokey Pokey with the FOIA. Porn. There's an agenda. Ughhhhhh

[Rescinded and Mended]

I think Jill is genuinely upset here. Jessa's a little more well-spoken and stoic about the whole thing. I don't think any of them wanted this to come out, but I also agree that their shared perception of realit is distorted due to being raised fundie. Josh molested them, and if they're fine with this and give it a pass, why can't the rest of the world be okay with it, too?

I don't necessarily believe that they were both asleep when it happened. Maybe it happened that way, but I doubt it.

[peasandkaris]

Wait, so did Josh and the family sue the DHS because they gave them so many compliments? I'm confused...

[ApologistsBeDamned]

"The parent company of this tabloid is a major porn provider"

:wtf:

How do these precious gifts from god know this if they are so sheltered?

I didn't even knowi this and I am a damn porn watching atheist.

[violynn]

Agenda! Agenda!

Exploiting Women! Porn! :pull-hair: :pull-hair:

Quoting b/c it's so damn funny

because it's true

:pull-hair: :pull-hair:

[justbecause]

This is terrible for other victims, especially QF victims. THis might become part of a Gothard manual with tapes