When fundies self diagnose / Narcissism thy name is Lori

[polecat]

So no word of law school instead moving on to crafting?

My husband would have seen thay as bait and switch...

Presumably her husband knew about her plans. I'd like to think, anyway. It's not great to start a marriage with a lie that big lurking in the background.

[jerkit]

Presumably her husband knew about her plans. I'd like to think, anyway. It's not great to start a marriage with a lie that big lurking in the background.

Well, she had to move across the country to marry him, so you would think he knew she couldn't continue law school.

[polecat]

Well, she had to move across the country to marry him, so you would think he knew she couldn't continue law school.

That was what I was thinking.

Now Lori -- THAT was a bait-and-switch, complete with a sneak attack pregnancy.

[jerkit]

Betsy is FOR SURE a Poe and Lori is FOR SURE too stupid to see it.

Everyone should be in the honeymoon phase all the time! Just like in Biblical times!

[jerkit]

Is Karen a poe too? (I apparently have way too much time on my hands today lol)

I loved the post Lori!! I wish I had been able to gain such wisdom back when I married in 1988. My parents surely did not provide and example of what marriage should be........I am thankful for a godly man that does not want Dancing With The Stars on our tv ~ he has always said that he doesn't want to watch that "filth". :-)

[halcionne]

Betsy is FOR SURE a Poe and Lori is FOR SURE too stupid to see it.

Is Karen a poe too? (I apparently have way too much time on my hands today lol)

I avoid Lori-land because something about the MRA bullshit just makes me sad and frustrated, which isn't fun. I'm desperate for FJ reading, so I had a look and the comments over there are pretty entertaining. :whistle:

[HoneyBunny]

Lori teased Ken that she was glad she didn't like him when she was younger. What normal person says stuff like that?

[jerkit]

And she sleeps just fine when Ken is gone because "she's not afraid because Jesus holds her"

WAAAAAAT??

I don't sleep well when my husband isn't home, but it's certainly not because of fear. It's just a change in routine.

[polecat]

And she sleeps just fine when Ken is gone because "she's not afraid because Jesus holds her"

WAAAAAAT??

I don't sleep well when my husband isn't home, but it's certainly not because of fear. It's just a change in routine.

I'm a godless heathen who sleeps better when mine is not home. He snores. And when I say "snores," I mean he sounds like a freight train coming through at top speed.

It's bad.

Also Lori, good grief, we're tired of hearing you tell us your "happy" dream. I'd like to point out that before you turned around, you had no idea who you were butt-grinding on. So even though it turned out to be Dream Ken (snort!!!!!), you may as well have been butt grinding all up on Bill Gothard or Michael Pearl for all you knew!

(How I imagine Dream Ken. Also how I imagine Real Ken thinks of himself).

Hoochie.

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

I kid. We can't help our dreams. Besides, it's only cheating if penetration is involved, according to Real Ken

[salex]

Lori teased Ken that she was glad she didn't like him when she was younger. What normal person says stuff like that?

She doesn't like him now. But she'd rather be holy than happy, so she stays and obeys.

Not to mention she'd rather not have to work to buy food, clothing, internet time etc--so she stays and passively aggressively obeys.

[lilwriter85]

Honestly, I hope eventually someone in that family (aside from Aunt Genny) will have the guts to put Lori in her place. I would not put up with her shit for any length of time, and I don't care who she thinks commanded her to do what. :evil:

I think other relatives have probably tried to or have put Lori in her place. I can't see someone like Lori being liked by all of her relatives. There are probably others in addition to Aunt Genny that have issues with Lori. Lori described herself as a bossy child in several blog entries. She admits that she bossed around her younger sisters and had a hard time making/having friends. She also cut down some of her childhood friends on the blog, when she brought up that some of her friends' had working mothers. I assume Lori throws the anti-working mom attitude onto her relatives as well. Some of her relatives probably disagree with other things Lori believes in.

[lilwriter85]

I think Lori uses "women should stay home" to excuse herself. At heart, based on her own description of herself, she is one lazy woman. Didn't want to work, didn't want to raise her own kids while staying home with them, had a nanny and send them to their room, adopted Cry It Out very early so she could sleep. Doesn't want to be bothered with being an active member of her community.

Did she also say she was shy? I think that may be because she is in general no very likeable and historically only a few people warm up to her. SO she doesn't seem to do lunch with the girls much or have girsl night out with other than her relatives/daughters and that one group of school friends.

She doesn't seem to be active in her community other than her church where she is a super mentor (cough bullshit cough) but you never hear of her on any committee to feed the hungry, clothe the poor or do anything of value beyond being a professional harridan online.

I also wonder if Ken put her on a money diet (maybe more than once) as he bitched and moaned about her spending and about women in general having a say on the budget, so Ken my encourage her staying home to prevent spending. (Shopping is one of those things people can do alone)

So, if she or Ken thinks staying home is the real deal, then of course, God thinks so too.

(Plus, it is one of the standard christian woman blogger rotations. Lydia, Mrs. White, and others hit on it, along with evil feminists destroying their own families, education and the dangers of pulbic schools, submission, living on one income, beating the babies, then back to staying home....)

In a previous post, I mentioned Lori admitting that she was/is bossy and she also cut down some of her school friends' families. I agree, she isn't likable and I think her spoiled princess attitude has a lot to do with it. The friends she has are probably like her. She lacks common sense on a lot of things too.

I also call bullshit on the mega mentor stuff. I think the number of women she is mentoring through her church isn't the high number Ken has claimed. Lori isn't mentioned anywhere on the church's website. She blogged about going to some church meeting before and it was the same post, where she mentioned how a youth pastor had a brain tumor and "would be dead any day now". I wouldn't be surprised if Lori is disliked by church leaders or administrators. But then again, that church promotes Mark Douchecoll and Mars Hill crap.

During Kenny boy's time here, he brought up money issues. He talked about he came from a lower economic background than Lori. He was pissed about Lori spending tons of money on organic vegetables and other things and then said something about his retirement fund and that was part of the reason they didn't have more kids. At the same time, Kenny boy benefited from Lori's upper middle class parents. IIRC, Lori's father helped them with trailer and bought them a car. There is nothing wrong with people helping out adult children get a start in life. The problem is that Lori doesn't see that others don't have that kind of help.

[Hane]

I think that Ken and Lori are just the sort of people who get off on back-and-forth button-pushing, a "power exchange" dynamic that more self-aware people would channel into consensual kink. There's so much who's-on-top-of-whom going on there, and they get off on it so much, and they're such literal-minded nitwits that they cannot CONCEIVE of the benefits of an egalitarian marriage, or that they themselves are not necessarily the norm as individuals or as a couple. So they glom onto the concept of Biblical complementarianism, and use it to justify themselves and denigrate others.

[Hisey]

Check out the latest comment, it is too funny.

A commenter says she thinks that women get hit on when they send off a "flirty vibe".

Ken rushes in to say he is often SURPRISED that none of the women he works with flirt with him. (Surprised! Because he is such a hot prospect) He concludes it's because he talks so much about his wife and kids. If he didn't. . . watch out!

Then he rushes in to defend the Joyfilled Wife. She is not flirty! No, no! She just smiles a lot.

Then he talks about his daughters. They are not smily, but they get hit on. Same with Lori. Grouchpouch girls do get hit on, but women should smile, but no one he knows is flirty, but smiling can seem like flirting, and no one flirts with him because of his undying devotion to his family. It's funny to see him scramble back and forth between opposing viewpoints.

[polecat]

Check out the latest comment, it is too funny.

A commenter says she thinks that women get hit on when they send off a "flirty vibe".

Ken rushes in to say he is often SURPRISED that none of the women he works with flirt with him. (Surprised! Because he is such a hot prospect) He concludes it's because he talks so much about his wife and kids. If he didn't. . . watch out!

Then he rushes in to defend the Joyfilled Wife. She is not flirty! No, no! She just smiles a lot.

Then he talks about his daughters. They are not smily, but they get hit on. Same with Lori. Grouchpouch girls do get hit on, but women should smile, but no one he knows is flirty, but smiling can seem like flirting, and no one flirts with him because of his undying devotion to his family. It's funny to see him scramble back and forth between opposing viewpoints.

I can't imagine any circumstance in which a woman would flirt with Ken.

And I love that the men are being rude and obnoxious by continuing to push even when a woman has made it clear that she's not interested ... and yet it is STILL the woman's fault for giving off a "flirty vibe," whatever the heck that is.

[Firiel]

And she sleeps just fine when Ken is gone because "she's not afraid because Jesus holds her"

WAAAAAAT??

I don't sleep well when my husband isn't home, but it's certainly not because of fear. It's just a change in routine.

Boyfriend and I are visiting my parents so we are sleeping in different rooms. He got the best night sleep he's had in ages.

I'm a terrible bed buddy. :lol: :?

[2xx1xy1JD]

Thejoyfilledwife really likes being a passive aggressive drama llama doesn't she.

We all have to read that she gets hit on even though she's married with children. I suppose that one way to rub it in her porn addict husband's face that she's still hot.

I wonder how she would explain the fact that I've also occasionally been hit on but managed not to "fall into sin" even though I don't have Jesus in my life. To read her BS, without Jesus it's impossible to avoid falling i to bed with the first guy around.

[HoneyBunny]

Until my husband retired in 2009, for the 26 years of our marriage, we spent at least a decade apart, living in different cities and countries. We both worked closely with members of the opposite sex every single day. Sometimes things got casual-flirty. It's a natural part of being with people that are likable and fun. But never once did we ever worry about what the other was doing. We loved each other; we didn't love these other people. It was never any more complicated than that.

Lori's posts make me crazy. She is a typical conservative, always wanting to go to war but without a single regard for what life as a military family is like. And lots of other married couples are living in different cities for many different reasons. Poor Lori, with her Biblically ordered helplessness, would never survive.

[usmcmom]

Is there anything more arrogant than this statement by Ken?

Ken · 18 hours ago

Funny Gina I was just saying something similar to Lori that I work with lots of women over the years in my consulting and it has surprised me a little that rarely have any flirted with me during the course of work and outside hours. Years ago I asked a group who I knew well what was wrong with me that I rarely have the issue with anyone flirting with me and they all seemed to laugh and say, "It's because you are always talking about your wife and kids!" I guess that is a sure fire way to make sure the opposite sex knows you are taken and off limits.

I cannot imagine any decent, humble man saying to his wife "I'm so surprised more women don't flirt with me." And then to actually ask co-workers WHY nobody flirts with him? Seriously, WHO has that conversation with anybody beyond seventh grade?

As for the Joy Filled Wife? Geesh! Is this a case of extreme humble bragging or what? She has to announce that she gets hit on all the time but she hates its. Really, she hates it. :lol: Yeah, right!

[polecat]

Thejoyfilledwife really likes being a passive aggressive drama llama doesn't she.

We all have to read that she gets hit on even though she's married with children. I suppose that one way to rub it in her porn addict husband's face that she's still hot.

I wonder how she would explain the fact that I've also occasionally been hit on but managed not to "fall into sin" even though I don't have Jesus in my life. To read her BS, without Jesus it's impossible to avoid falling i to bed with the first guy around.

Maybe it is only because of Jesus that she keeps her panties in their upright position. She certainly doesn't sound particularly happy in her marriage otherwise.

[Hane]

Is there anything more arrogant than this statement by Ken?

I cannot imagine any decent, humble man saying to his wife "I'm so surprised more women don't flirt with me." And then to actually ask co-workers WHY nobody flirts with him? Seriously, WHO has that conversation with anybody beyond seventh grade?

"You're always talking about your wife and kids." Translation: "Ken, honey, you're not much to look at and give us all the creeps."

[salex]

Another day, another Hypocritical Post by Lori Alexander, Monsters all.

Is there arguing in your home?

We are called to be at peace with all men, as far as it depends upon us. We are to pursue peace since God is a God of peace. Train your children to not argue. Model this to your children with the relationship that you have with your husband. Don't argue, quarrel, or nag, instead speak words of kindness and love to each other

Lori and Ken both say there was often arguing and that they had a lousy marriage, that she nagged and they argued and were not kind to one another and may or may not really have loved each other in the past but “say†they do now.

Are you careful with what you watch on television and put in front of your eyes? Do you dwell on the lovely and the good? Do you protect your children from evil? Never let them have a television or computer in their room. Don't ever buy them an iPhone. They don't need one. Billions of children have grown up without them, including me. Flee all forms of sexual immorality and immodesty; ALL forms.

Wasn’t there some discussion about her tv watching—there may be more than she lets on? And I hate to tell her but the ship has sailed on computers in their rooms, since many schools issue laptops to students now. (Oh, I forgot, she thinks everyone should be homeschooling in the front room, even though she put her kids in their rooms to read hours a day when she was a SAHM)

I agree about the i-Phone. I recommend Androids. While not all kids need or will have a smart phone, the argument that she didn’t have one in the 60s and 70s holds no water.

Are you deep in debt? Are you living within your husband's income? Are you being content with what you have and not caring about keeping up with the Jones'? Are you learning to be unmaterialistic and live simply knowing that it is ALL going to burn one day.

If Lori was never in debt it is because Ken kept her on a short leash and because her father doled out cash from time to time. I suspect her wardrobe, cars and furniture are all similar to that owned by others on her block and in her church. And the mere fact she rubbed it in to Ken 15 or so years after the fact that her expensive sofas were worth recovering indicates she is not unmaterialistic. One can keep up with the Joneses by buying the right supplements and organic foods as well as by having the right car… just depends on what Jones family impresses you. And didn’t she whine/brag about the old gold Mercedes? Used to be a newer one on the google maps of their home/ Ken’s business address.

Are you dressing modestly and teaching your daughters the value that God places on their purity? Are you disciplining them and teaching them obedience so they will grow up to be disciplined and walk in Truth? Are you modeling to them a meek and quiet spirit? Are you generous and loving to those outside your home and in need?

Oh, lori, you didn’t model any meek or quiet spirit during your kid’s formative years. You were a shrew to Ken and he probably was an asshole toward you. You were glad when he was gone. And what does Disciplining your daughters look like that is different from disciplining your sons--you don't start bitching if the boy gains 5 lb???? Did ken push the girls up against the wall to constrain them?

You never exhibit a meek or quiet spirit—but harridans never do.

Lori, you are full of shit and a hypocrite. Own it.

[salex]

"You're always talking about your wife and kids." Translation: "Ken, honey, you're not much to look at and give us all the creeps."

I suspect Ken flirts quite a bit, since frankly, he has shown his lack of respect for working women, he spent decades having almost no sex and he's around a lot of women who I"m sure he considers "underlings" in the various clinics. Some may flirt back, but many won't because they are at their job, this guy is a consultant and old, and because why would they. I've always been heavy, but people have flirted with me over the years, and some have hit on me (i see a difference) but in an actual work situation, it is more rare than it was in the 70s and before. Harassment laws and expectations of how people act at work have changed.

[PrairieGirl]

Another day, another Hypocritical Post by Lori Alexander, Monsters all.

Lori and Ken both say there was often arguing and that they had a lousy marriage, that she nagged and they argued and were not kind to one another and may or may not really have loved each other in the past but “say†they do now.

Wasn’t there some discussion about her tv watching—there may be more than she lets on? And I hate to tell her but the ship has sailed on computers in their rooms, since many schools issue laptops to students now. (Oh, I forgot, she thinks everyone should be homeschooling in the front room, even though she put her kids in their rooms to read hours a day when she was a SAHM)

I agree about the i-Phone. I recommend Androids. While not all kids need or will have a smart phone, the argument that she didn’t have one in the 60s and 70s holds no water.

If Lori was never in debt it is because Ken kept her on a short leash and because her father doled out cash from time to time. I suspect her wardrobe, cars and furniture are all similar to that owned by others on her block and in her church. And the mere fact she rubbed it in to Ken 15 or so years after the fact that her expensive sofas were worth recovering indicates she is not unmaterialistic. One can keep up with the Joneses by buying the right supplements and organic foods as well as by having the right car… just depends on what Jones family impresses you. And didn’t she whine/brag about the old gold Mercedes? Used to be a newer one on the google maps of their home/ Ken’s business address.

Oh, lori, you didn’t model any meek or quiet spirit during your kid’s formative years. You were a shrew to Ken and he probably was an asshole toward you. You were glad when he was gone. And what does Disciplining your daughters look like that is different from disciplining your sons--you don't start bitching if the boy gains 5 lb???? Did ken push the girls up against the wall to constrain them?

You never exhibit a meek or quiet spirit—but harridans never do.

Lori, you are full of shit and a hypocrite. Own it.

Typical "do as I say, not as I do" bullshit. It's a common fundie mantra.

[polecat]

I suspect Ken flirts quite a bit, since frankly, he has shown his lack of respect for working women, he spent decades having almost no sex and he's around a lot of women who I"m sure he considers "underlings" in the various clinics. Some may flirt back, but many won't because they are at their job, this guy is a consultant and old, and because why would they. I've always been heavy, but people have flirted with me over the years, and some have hit on me (i see a difference) but in an actual work situation, it is more rare than it was in the 70s and before. Harassment laws and expectations of how people act at work have changed.

Actually, didn't he get a bit flirty (or try to) towards people here? I remember something about him wanting someone's address to send candy or something. He made a couple other comments that seemed to be fishing for attention, too.