Closet Racist, Adoptive Mom, Annoying Narcissist ...

[bionicmlle]

Seems she got exactly what she wanted -- affirmation and praise from her fellow mommy prayer warriors. I'm curious about the comments she didn't approve because currently any "criticism" is based on the format - as if bullet-point or paragraph format make any difference when the content is so inflammatory.

[Morton Fan]

Seems she got exactly what she wanted -- affirmation and praise from her fellow mommy prayer warriors. I'm curious about the comments she didn't approve because currently any "criticism" is based on the format - as if bullet-point or paragraph format make any difference when the content is so inflammatory.

It's just like when she posted those entries about how no one commented on her weight loss (Surprise! Suddenly 20 commenters told her how great she looked!) or when she posted someone's comment making suggestions for her haircut and everyone ran to her defense to tell her how stylish and lovely she looked. I do NOT get how she still has leghumpers.

[Iovershare]

uh, oh...hope Sarah isn't getting too comfy. She alluded to problems with her in the comments of the most recent post.

Seriously, this woman baffles me.

[Morton Fan]

uh, oh...hope Sarah isn't getting too comfy. She alluded to problems with her in the comments of the most recent post.

Seriously, this woman baffles me.

NOOOOOO!! Shockingly, there are 53 comments (!) to wade through. Do you mind recapping?

ETA: found it. "I've done a lot of adoption processing this month (challenges with our 14 year old), and am planning more posts in the near future."

Mama sucks.

[Iovershare]

Someone wrote that they wanted more adoption posts and she replied that she was doing a lot of adoption processing this month because they were having issues w/Sarah. If my mom gave my siblings away, it would eff me up too.

I.don't.like.her.

I also laughed because she said she was academically advanced in the new post!

[Morton Fan]

That last post was more incoherent than usual. What was she saying about someone writing in all lower case??? She lost me, and this time it had nothing to do with

all

that

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words.

[littlemommy]

It'd be awesome if this recent post that she wrote got zero comments again.

I also saw that comment alluding to Sarah and felt worried. What, was the girl not running enough track or knitting enough hats for Mama's friends? Did Sarah drink a designer coffee that was intended for precious Hosanna? I really want to forward one of those "rehoming" articles to Laurel with a "I'm watching you!" warning. :cry:

[Iovershare]

I have always wondered what the marriage crisis was. Like did he want to leave or what?

[Morton Fan]

I have always wondered what the marriage crisis was. Like did he want to leave or what?

My hunch was either porn or an affair (or maybe the beginning stages of an affair or whatever), since he was living far away from Mama and the kids, and it was around the time he was let go from his pastor job.

[bionicmlle]

Re adoption "processing" - I'm wondering if Sarah is expressing a lot of grief and "mama and papa" are trying to help her go through it (I'm trying to stay positive, here). Although Laurel does do some really awful things, it would actually surprise me if there was some sort of separation or "disruption" with Sarah. I can't imagine how lonely she must feel at this point (even if the home IS less chaotic with Rachel gone, it doesn't change grief) - both bio sibs have been taken from her and although she is close with Hosanna, it doesn't seem she measures up and is obviously regarded as "other."

As for the the marriage crisis -- it's so hard to tell with these fundies! What would be a normal marriage bump for most folks turns into a huge crisis of faith with them. I certainly have thought it could have been inappropriate relationship with a parishioner or porn (like, PG13 movie clips???? :lol: ) but it would not surprise me if a "crisis" came from something less overt. Perhaps she was hurt when he was not as emotionally/physically available to her because he was providing for his family far from home or because he disagreed with her on the "management" of their adult children or adoption issues. I get the feeling that Laurel believes that if "mama and papa" are not on the same page on every.single.thing. (Oh.My.Yes.), that this is a crisis of marriage and a major issue to work through and pray, unceasingly.

[Morton Fan]

Re adoption "processing" - I'm wondering if Sarah is expressing a lot of grief and "mama and papa" are trying to help her go through it (I'm trying to stay positive, here). Although Laurel does do some really awful things, it would actually surprise me if there was some sort of separation or "disruption" with Sarah. I can't imagine how lonely she must feel at this point (even if the home IS less chaotic with Rachel gone, it doesn't change grief) - both bio sibs have been taken from her and although she is close with Hosanna, it doesn't seem she measures up and is obviously regarded as "other."

As for the the marriage crisis -- it's so hard to tell with these fundies! What would be a normal marriage bump for most folks turns into a huge crisis of faith with them. I certainly have thought it could have been inappropriate relationship with a parishioner or porn (like, PG13 movie clips???? :lol: ) but it would not surprise me if a "crisis" came from something less overt. Perhaps she was hurt when he was not as emotionally/physically available to her because he was providing for his family far from home or because he disagreed with her on the "management" of their adult children or adoption issues. I get the feeling that Laurel believes that if "mama and papa" are not on the same page on every.single.thing. (Oh.My.Yes.), that this is a crisis of marriage and a major issue to work through and pray, unceasingly.

I think you may underestimate Mama. Her crises in the past have been pretty significant. She's a lot of things, but I don't think she's been one to make mountains out of molehills. She didn't write huge, cryptic posts about "crises" when Gregg and his girlfriend got pregnant without being married, for instance, and was pretty undramatic when Jeremiah's fiancee dumped him. Her big stuff has been pretty big.

[Iovershare]

I can't even imagine moving across the world to a completely different climate, culture, language, where nobody looks like me and then slowly losing my siblings who are my only tie to home. It doesn't appear that they do a lot with the other local families that have adopted children from Ghana. I have a friend who adopted 3 from Ghana around the same time as Laurel and they used to hang out until she realized how completely nuts Laurel is.

I worry about Sarah and the disconnect she must feel from her surroundings. I wonder if any of these children will ever return to their home country.

Do you remember when she was living on the island and staying for free at a house of a church member and made all of these passive aggressive jabs about what the kitchen was missing and stuff like that. I miss the "papa is a pastor" days.

[chaotic life]

She would dump Sara in a nanosecond, the mere fact that she's already done it twice is proof of that. I have a child who lasted four years while the other kids were dumped. He lived in fear every day because he knew it was not IF he would be dumped but WHEN. Mama is not attached to Sara, of course she'll dump her if she isn't good enough for Mama.

[Morton Fan]

She would dump Sara in a nanosecond, the mere fact that she's already done it twice is proof of that. I have a child who lasted four years while the other kids were dumped. He lived in fear every day because he knew it was not IF he would be dumped but WHEN. Mama is not attached to Sara, of course she'll dump her if she isn't good enough for Mama.

I think so too. It's happened two out of three times already.

[bionicmlle]

I think you may underestimate Mama. Her crises in the past have been pretty significant. She's a lot of things, but I don't think she's been one to make mountains out of molehills. She didn't write huge, cryptic posts about "crises" when Gregg and his girlfriend got pregnant without being married, for instance, and was pretty undramatic when Jeremiah's fiancee dumped him. Her big stuff has been pretty big.

Fair enough, MortonFan! You're probably right. Isn't it odd to think that it would be BETTER if she was just a DramaMama??

[Iovershare]

I think her naysayers are under her skin. Her need for validation from comments and allowing anonymous comments so she gets more ego stroking might unravel her.

[NurseNell]

I can't even imagine moving across the world to a completely different climate, culture, language, where nobody looks like me and then slowly losing my siblings who are my only tie to home. It doesn't appear that they do a lot with the other local families that have adopted children from Ghana. I have a friend who adopted 3 from Ghana around the same time as Laurel and they used to hang out until she realized how completely nuts Laurel is.

I worry about Sarah and the disconnect she must feel from her surroundings. I wonder if any of these children will ever return to their home country.

My sons are adopted internationally. One was 9 weeks and the other 3 1/2 months when we returned to the U.S. with them. Even at that young age they were aware of the different language, different food smells, different climate. I can't give specifics, it was 30 and 36 years ago but I could tell these little things affected them and took time for them to adjust.

My 30 year old son has returned to his home country. He married a woman from there and after spending the first 7 years of their marriage here (U.S.) they have returned, with their young sons, to their home country. He is the first adoptee I've known who has done so but I'm sure there are others.

I feel really sorry for older adoptees, I can't imagine how difficult it is to be in a new place with a new language, different culture, different food, no relatives. And too many of the adopters expect these kids to adjust instantly. It just doesn't work that way.

[Iovershare]

Nurse Nell, how has your son adjusted to living back in his home country?

[NurseNell]

Nurse Nell, how has your son adjusted to living back in his home country?

It's too soon to say. His wife and sons have been there all summer but because he had work commitments he wasn't able to leave until last week. I think he will do OK, he's fluent in Spanish, and has visited the country often. He is reunited with his birthparents so he has a lot of family. He's also a very easy going man who truly has no enemies, everyone loves him. There will be hard parts I'm sure. He has had his circle of close friends since kindergarten, Sundays during football season were always at his house in his man cave. He is going to miss that. He has his citizenship back, that was a lot of bureaucracy (he kept his U.S. citizenship too so he's a dual citizen). So time will tell. I'm going to visit in May. They will visit here in July for the yearly family fishing trip to Canada. And with Skype it's not as hard to be apart as it once was.

[Iovershare]

Looks like Gregg has PTSD. I feel bad for him and I think it is sad his mom needs to share everything on the Internet. Doesn't she get that this stuff never goes away?

Also, the only kid who ever gets a bday mention is Hosanna. She got a party last year and a get together this year. I feel bad for the little boys.

[Morton Fan]

Looks like Gregg has PTSD. I feel bad for him and I think it is sad his mom needs to share everything on the Internet. Doesn't she get that this stuff never goes away?

Also, the only kid who ever gets a bday mention is Hosanna. She got a party last year and a get together this year. I feel bad for the little boys.

It almost feels like she's proud that Gregg has PTSD. I don't think he should be ashamed, of course, but I don't think I'd want my mom mentioning it on her (weird) blog, either.

Very true about Hosanna and her birthday. I think Mama is so desperate for Hosanna to have friends that she's willing to do anything for them - bring them mochas at 3am or whatever when they're picking raspberries, cook immense meals and have sleepovers for the cast of the play she was in last year, etc. "WE'LL MAKE MAMA'S CINNAMON ROLLS! WE'LL FREEZE THEM UNTIL YOU'RE AVAILABLE! PLEASE? COME OVER? PLEASE?"

I wonder if the older kids were more exuberant, but the younger ones (sans Hosanna) are more quiet, so Mama feels lonely. She really seemed to love when there were tons of people around and they played cards, had "adopted big kids" (wonder if she ever rehomes THEM?), etc.

[Iovershare]

Well, I think she likes to have a reason for their issues that doesn't relate to her. Like she can blame Gregg's PTSD for getting a chick knocked up before marriage, the Ghana kids behavior is about reactive attachment and has nothing to do with her or her bonding with them.

I imagine the older kids were more "fun" because they hadn't been through as much trauma and I am sure even their bio kids must feel the tension and drama so acutely. I wonder if Hosanna feels the pressure to be everything her mom wants. Seriously, if my daughter had a friend whose mom was so attached, it would creep me out. All of the trips and mochas are weird. I looked at Hosanna's bday post from last year and she got a slumber party and a hotel weekend away with mama.

And eh does Jeremiah need favor, grace & mercy for his Navy career? Did something happen with that ceremony that was cancelled?

So. Much. Drama!

[Morton Fan]

Well, Papa didn't get the job (again), and some weird "technicality" forbade Jeremiah from becoming a Navy pilot. Wtf??

[Iovershare]

yeah, I was wondering about that. I imagine that a little glitch in the system would not prevent him from being a pilot.

Well, hopefully Gregg will get over his PTSD soon. Oh. my. yes!

[Iovershare]

Now even the photo bombers are out to get her!