I’m going to... ultimately defeat feminism - Bria Crawford

[ladidah]

You went to PHC, right? I thought they eventually got accreditation. Was it not accredited when you went there?

Anyway, I felt much the same when I got my bachelor's!

[ladidah]

And sorry for further OT. I'm kind of fascinated with PHC, because when I was in high school, Mike Farris came to my hometown to recruit for the inaugural class, which a few of my friends did join.

[kaetrin]

You went to PHC, right? I thought they eventually got accreditation. Was it not accredited when you went there?

Anyway, I felt much the same when I got my bachelor's!

Yes. I was in the second class (and I worked at HSLDA during the inaugural year, so I probably know your friends :-) ), and they weren't accredited when I graduated in 2005.

They got accreditation in 2007 from Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools. When I was there, they were trying to get accreditation from the AALE (American Academy for Liberal Education) and had a big showdown over the teaching of evolution vs. creationism. PHC was initially rejected, then appealed and was granted pre-accreditation. I can't find info on it right off-hand, but I think PHC eventually stopped trying to get accreditation from the AALE and phrased it with an attitude of "we don't need stupid liberal accreditation anyway!" I don't know what really happened there but I'm always a little suspicious when all this self-righteous rhetoric is thrown around. (Although this is based on impressionistic recollections only.)

/threadjack :)

[Hisey]

It interests me how arrogant Kelly is raising her kids to be. When I was 18, I would never had thought to offer advice on courtship and dating. At the time, I had dated a bit, but still thought of myself as a newbie in the whole process. If computers had been invented then, I'd have been reading and learning from others, not dishing out advice. Especially if, like Bria, I had never dated or been involved in a courtship.

Same with Kelly's little boy, Ashton. What is he, 12? And she thinks he should sell his artwork? My kids have their talents, but they are young and I would never think of marketing those talents. Instead, I encourage them to learn and grow, so that one day they might have something of value to offer the world. My oldest, for example, is a talented poet, but I would never market an e-book of her poems. I also find that it sets kids up for failure if you allow them to do things too early. How many paintings is Ashton selling, anyway? How does it make him feel, day after day, when no orders come in?

I'm not saying Kelly's kids are arrogant--I'm saying she is encouraging them to behave in a way that is presumptuous and arrogant, but it's really not their fault.

[GolightlyGrrl]

It interests me how arrogant Kelly is raising her kids to be. When I was 18, I would never had thought to offer advice on courtship and dating. At the time, I had dated a bit, but still thought of myself as a newbie in the whole process. If computers had been invented then, I'd have been reading and learning from others, not dishing out advice. Especially if, like Bria, I had never dated or been involved in a courtship.

Same with Kelly's little boy, Ashton. What is he, 12? And she thinks he should sell his artwork? My kids have their talents, but they are young and I would never think of marketing those talents. Instead, I encourage them to learn and grow, so that one day they might have something of value to offer the world. My oldest, for example, is a talented poet, but I would never market an e-book of her poems. I also find that it sets kids up for failure if you allow them to do things too early. How many paintings is Ashton selling, anyway? How does it make him feel, day after day, when no orders come in?

I'm not saying Kelly's kids are arrogant--I'm saying she is encouraging them to behave in a way that is presumptuous and arrogant, but it's really not their fault.

This!!

It kills me how Kelly sees her kids as cash cows. I've seen Bria and Ashton's work; they show promise but they still need to develop their talents before anyone should shell out the money to buy their work. Kelly should invest in these kids by taking them to museums, galleries and introducing them to great artists and photographers. Let these kids Bria and Ashton discover who they are as fledgling photographers and artists before you say "Ka-ching!"

Sadly, under Kelly's care, I'm afraid Bria and Ashton will never get past the Kidist stage.

[Effie]

I don't dislike Bria. I want to be clear about that as well. I dislike her mother though - a lot. I can be quite harsh when I talk about Bria - mostly because I expect more from her. I have followed her blogs for several years now. During all this time I hoped she would develop into her own person. Sadly, she is a mini-version of her mother by now.

I noticed something quite sad on Bria's book blog today:

"The Botkin girls explains it all in their captivating and humorous discussion of what we should be 'feasting' on from our libraries. I highly recommend getting this riveting and convicting discussion that motivates every girl to really examine what her bookshelf 'pantry' contains.

This would actually be a wonderful tool for the whole family as it could pertain to more than just girls and romance novels. My mother and I listened to it together and it opened up wonderful discussion examining our literature more closely, studying authors before we decide to read their books, the worldviews therein, etc."

Does this mean she will only choose to read books written by people who share her same worldview? Only Christian books? Is that what she is saying? - open-bookreviews.blogspot.se/2012/01/jane-austen-vampires-anna-sophia-and.html

[OnceModestTwiceShy]

I don't dislike Bria. I want to be clear about that as well. I dislike her mother though - a lot. I can be quite harsh when I talk about Bria - mostly because I expect more from her. I have followed her blogs for several years now. During all this time I hoped she would develop into her own person. Sadly, she is a mini-version of her mother by now.

I noticed something quite sad on Bria's book blog today:

Does this mean she will only choose to read books written by people who share her same worldview? Only Christian books? Is that what she is saying? - open-bookreviews.blogspot.se/2012/01/jane-austen-vampires-anna-sophia-and.html

Gawd, the Botkinettes' food metaphor is really grating for some reason.

[desertvixen]

Wow, I guess she doesn't realize Queen Victoria was being sarcastic

I don't believe that Queen Victoria was being sarcastic - she was not in favor of women's rights and didn't push for them.

[Hisey]

This!!

It kills me how Kelly sees her kids as cash cows. I've seen Bria and Ashton's work; they show promise but they still need to develop their talents before anyone should shell out the money to buy their work. Kelly should invest in these kids by taking them to museums, galleries and introducing them to great artists and photographers. Let these kids Bria and Ashton discover who they are as fledgling photographers and artists before you say "Ka-ching!"

Sadly, under Kelly's care, I'm afraid Bria and Ashton will never get past the Kidist stage.

I actually don't think she sees them as cash cows. I think she thinks everyone should be an entrepeneur, and she believes she is "getting them started." However, she isn't. She is discouraging them. Ashton isn't ready to sell art, and the world isn't as infatuated with his artwork as Kelly is. Now he knows this. I feel sorry for the kid--how many orders do you think he gets? Does he feel like a failure?

If Kelly really wants to "get him started", he should be in a bunch of classes studying from established pros.

[Witsec1]

Did I hear right on another thread, that Bria had stopped by FJ for a vigorous exchange of views?

[Guest Anonymous]

Did I hear right on another thread, that Bria had stopped by FJ for a vigorous exchange of views?

I don't think so. I think some FJers visited her blog and she responded by having a comment deleting party because they were trying to corrupt her with their evil logic.

[ChunkyBarbie]

I don't think so. I think some FJers visited her blog and she responded by having a comment deleting party because they were trying to corrupt her with their evil logic.

Logic iz bad. It can lead to thinking.

[Patsy]

this is petty, but...

I'm still not over this in her review of the movie Hugo:

Indecency: This was a wonderfully clean movie with two minor exceptions. An actress has a costume on and it exposes her legs a bit more than prefered but it's very brief and not too close up. And the second one even took me a minute to catch so I think it will go over 14 and under's heads. It was just a brief moment of mildly spoken innuendo and talk of infidelity. It's meant for light humor but still uncalled for. And as it's said with British accents, some might not even understand the words.

Oh snaps!

.... took her a minute to catch up on a guy talking to another guy about the fact that his wife left for a while, and she's pregnant now, and it's hinted at and hinted at like a sledgehammer until the actual words 'and are you sure it's yours?' are uttered? I'm not entirely certain if that's the exact quote, because I was spending half the movie outside the theatre with the four-year-old biggest fan of breaching cinema etiquette, and we had to repeatedly leave for twenty minutes at a time, but, you know, even supervising him I picked up on it.

[IceTwinkie]

I just hopped over to her book "review" blog. Wow, that is the most boring, limited reading list I have ever seen. Most of her "reviews†aren’t really reviews at all, rather they are summaries of what the book is about and even those seem to have been cut and pasted from the back covers of the books themselves or other web sites. There is no critical analysis of why she liked or disliked the book. I love the irony of the subtitle of the blog "Every Book Unlocks a Worldviewâ€. While that is true, her list only represents a very narrow world view. Where is the curiosity, the need to learn more about other diverse world views? Someone had posted up thread that she has been deleting comments that challenge her. How can you have an informed opinion or give a valid argument much less make recommendations without knowing what other people believe? I am a card carrying tree hugging liberal and have often been accused of being a socialist pretty set in my worldview but you know what? I listen to a lot of conservative radio because I want to know what the other side is saying, I want to be able to argue and debate knowledgeably. I will even admit to every now and then agreeing with a particular point that has been made. On a side note, as someone who has worked in bookstores and libraries most of my life, It frustrates me to no end when parents would come in with their children and the kids would pick up something like a comic book or a “Wimpy Kid†novel and the parents would tell them no, you have to pick something “goodâ€. I have always said that if they want to read a comic book let them read a comic book, at least they’re reading. If you nurture that love of reading then they will eventually move on to better books but nothing will squash the wanting to read by telling them that they have to read something they don’t want to. Sorry, this turned into a bit of a rant. I’m done now.