Lori Alexander 34: The Woo Is Strong with this One

[Curious]

I know a lot of people hate my (sort-somtimes) soft spot for Ken, but here goes anyway.

Looking at that picture of he and Lori when they were first married makes me sad for him.  I think despite the HUGE (huge, ginormous) red flags he actually did love her (for more than sex on demand).  He looks genuinely happy in that picture, even with the dreadful porn 'stache.  His smile looks genuine and it goes to his eyes, IMO.

Apparently, without Lori to harp on him constantly he's still able to have a good time with his adult child and mystery grey-haired man (could that be Alyssa's F-i-L?), so she hasn't completely broken him.

Yes, he says a bunch of crazy and abhorrent things both when he was here and on Lori's blog/facebook, but I still can't help but wonder what kind of person he would have been if he'd never married Lori.  When he was here there were glimpses of the man he might have been.  Some joking and legit snark that from others probably would have been well accepted, but coming from him didn't go over so well.

I don't think he is NEARLY as uptight as he appears when he's defending Lori and I wonder of much of what he says is really HIS idea and how much is done to keep the vile harpy he married off his back.

All the horrible he has said/done is still on him, of course.  He's an adult and could tell Lori no or just not do what she demands.  He has no excuses for any of that.   He is much more of a conundrum for me than Lori is though

[fluffy]

@ Always Discerning, I don't know how to screenshot. Did anyone else get it by the way? 

 

[onemama]

54 minutes ago, Curious said:

mystery grey-haired man 

Could that be Ken's father? 

[Curious]

26 minutes ago, onemama said:

Could that be Ken's father? 

Maybe.  Maybe Ken has a....friend?

[onemama]

20 minutes ago, Curious said:

Maybe.  Maybe Ken has a....friend?

I wonder about Ken's family because Lory only ever talks about her parents and her sisters, but I think Ken has mentioned having decent parents that I'd imagine he'd want to be around every now and then.  I wonder whether they are still alive, or whether Lori has nothing to do with his family for some reason.  I don't think she's ever posted anything about Ken's family or her relationship with them.  

This trip could be all about Ken visiting his folks.  

[Petronella]

8 hours ago, Frog99 said:

I was intrigued by this tidbit 

And who doesn’t think Lori would be all over this: 

Where did you see this? WTH????

Are you sure that's the real Lori replying? Wasn't someone impersonating her elsewhere? This is just so outrageous that I wonder if it's some troll pretending to be Lori...

[Koala]

Lori Alexander via Instagram:

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Just think how much less sexual harassment there would be if a lot more women were keepers at home.

So the other day, "immodest" women were going to be held accountable by God, if men sexually harassed them.  After all, it's their fault for making their "weaker" brothers stumble. (Naturally, Lori is the decider of what's modest)

Now, I guess working women will be held accountable as well.  If they'd stayed home, they wouldn't have been harassed, right Lori?

This from a woman whose daughter worked as a dental hygienist.  This from a woman whose other daughter dresses in a fashion that could hardly be described as "modest".  

Does Lori ever think about the message she's sending them?  Are her messages directly aimed at them? God, what kind of mother says things like this??? 

[jerkit]

Per Instagram, lori thinks women are there boss’ helpmeets. Maybe I’m privileged here, but my boss has literally never asked me to fetch him his coffee. Because he’s a grown ass man and can walk 5 feet to be coffee maker.

[EowynW]

"Our husbands are head over us.."

Dear Lori, that isn't found anywhere in scripture. 

I am actually finding myself sad for her. This week. She's sitting at home spewing this stuff while her husband is enjoying himself away from her nasty self. Certainly no proof of her teachings in their marriage. My husband finds the idea of going off to have fun without me very unthinkable. He says either either both go or both stay. Because he loves being together so much. 

[Frog99]

@Petronella it was from her blog post about not encouraging women to divorce. It’s her comment in response to the lady whose comment she used for one if her doodles (the one about the in laws and now he’s a great grandfather). I think the fake site has been shut down. Interestingly enough, there was a fake Jason Cooley but that one is gone as well. 

@Curious I am new here and don’t have the historical knowledge of Ken that a lot of others do. I’ve read through some of the past links but there is so much with this family. I do sometimes feel sorry for him because I think that in some ways he’s been manipulated and beaten down by that shrew of a wife. 

I wonder if it is his dad. I know they were both picked up from the airport together. 

Part of me worries that if her fangirls figure out her inconsistencies that they will go deeper into fundieism. I haven’t seen some of her regulars posting lately. 

[Frog99]

37 minutes ago, Koala said:

Lori Alexander via Instagram:

So the other day, "immodest" women were going to be held accountable by God, if men sexually harassed them.  After all, it's their fault for making their "weaker" brothers stumble. (Naturally, Lori is the decider of what's modest)

Now, I guess working women will be held accountable as well.  If they'd stayed home, they wouldn't have been harassed, right Lori?

This from a woman whose daughter worked as a dental hygienist.  This from a woman whose other daughter dresses in a fashion that could hardly be described as "modest".  

Does Lori ever think about the message she's sending them?  Are her messages directly aimed at them? God, what kind of mother says things like this??? 

I’m starting to think that her posts are a reflection of what is going on within her life/head. I think her public and private personas are very different and she uses her private persona (blog, chat room and separate IG) to say what she can’t say in polite circles. I suspect people can see through some of it but probably don’t care enough to dig, because she doesn’t have meaningful relationships with anyone. There seem to br no IRL friends who comment on her posts and IG transformed wife posts. Alyssa doesn’t follow that IG page- that’s all pretty telling. 

Maybe Ken has had enough. I do think the fact she hasn’t shared that he is away is also very telling. 

[lilwriter85]

6 hours ago, onemama said:

I wonder about Ken's family because Lory only ever talks about her parents and her sisters, but I think Ken has mentioned having decent parents that I'd imagine he'd want to be around every now and then.  I wonder whether they are still alive, or whether Lori has nothing to do with his family for some reason.  I don't think she's ever posted anything about Ken's family or her relationship with them.  

This trip could be all about Ken visiting his folks.  

I recall a couple of times where Lori mentioned Ken's parents. His mother passed away and he has or had stepmother. One of the times Lori talked about the stepmother and father was in some post about submission. She said that the stepmother was submissive of Ken's dad.

When Ken posted on FJ, he said his father was a poor missionary or pastor. I got the sense that when Ken married Lori she had and still has a spoiled brat attitude that clashed with him coming from a poor family. There have been cases of poor people marrying people from higher socioeconomic backgrounds and things turn out good because they each learn from each other. Lori could have learned more from Ken's background and developed a more humble attitude.  I have the feeling that Ken might not have been all that bad when he married Lori. She and/or her parents might have been classist towards Ken and being treated shit sometimes turns decent people into jerks.

[Koala]

From today's post:

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Keeper at home means “stayers at home” (Are you a stayer at home?) and “guardians of the house.” We are to stand guard and protect the home from evil influences. This is our job and this is why we must be home full time.

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Even neighborhoods are safer when mothers are at home.

Well, I guess Lori is definitely a "stayer at home".  She stayed at home, and Ken went on vacation!

Maybe she's guarding her chat room from evil influences?  

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Yes, be present, not distracted by the computer, TV, or iPhone. 

Would monitoring a chat room for a majority of the day, and being ever present to delete comments be an example of NOT being distracted by the iPhone or computer?  Asking for a friend...

Referring to a mother's children:

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They will grow up and be gone and then you’ll be left with your iPhone. 

No Lori, I am planning to be left with my husband.  And my dog.  And my flowers.  And my home.  And my hobbies.  I could kind of go on and on, but you get the point.  My life will never revolve around an iPhone.  

If I were you, I'd be on vacation right now, not worrying about going viral, or finding a way to blame women who are victims of sexual harassment, or "monitoring" grown women in a chat room.

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*My blog made #1 on the Top 100 Housewife Blogs site and the picture is from my newly painted kitchen!

Wonderful  

Translation:

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*My blog made #1 on the Top 100 Housewife Blogs site and the picture is from my newly painted kitchen!  Meanwhile, my husband is on vacation, begrudging the fact that I destroyed my counters so we'd just have to do the kitchen renovation 5 years too soon.

Oh, and the hateful blog posts that made me #1 on some meaningless site, were aimed directly at my daughters, so that'll make for an interesting holiday.  I guess it's kind of like the potato soup story...

" I wanted to text her, "Where are the potatoes???"  Make her feel bad, you know."

My blog posts are kind of like that...I just want to make them feel bad, you know..."

But hey, look at all the money I am over here spending while you struggle to buy groceries!  Blessings!

 

[Loveday]

9 hours ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

How long has Ken been in the Caymans?  I'm very intrigued by his trip alone and the fact he seems so carefree and almost normal without Martyr Lori.

If it were any other couple I'd suspect a break-up or a major fight (actually I do anyway).

Perhaps he wanted her to go too, she refused and told him he couldn't go, and he said Hell to the No I'll go by myself.  Of course his absence may give her the perfect excuse to be "so so sick" when he returns --- to punish him for leaving.

It's also interesting that Lori has been completely silent about his trip on FB and her blog.  Has she mentioned it in the chatroom or IG?

The timing will be perfect. Christmas is coming. If she's 'so so sick,' she's not going to be able to decorate the house, shop for and wrap gifts, bake expensive cookies, or prepare the nourishing (gag) Christmas dinner. That's all going to fall on Ken and the maid, while she languishes on her re-upholstered sofa and watches Hallmark Channel Christmas movies, sulking because Ken forgot to put potatoes in her soup. But I'm sure she'll have a miraculous recovery late in the afternoon on Christmas Day. 

 

[lilwriter85]

8 minutes ago, Loveday said:

The timing will be perfect. Christmas is coming. If she's 'so so sick,' she's not going to be able to decorate the house, shop for and wrap gifts, bake expensive cookies, or prepare the nourishing (gag) Christmas dinner. That's all going to fall on Ken and the maid, while she languishes on her re-upholstered sofa and watches Hallmark Channel Christmas movies and sulking because Ken forgot to put potatoes in her soup. But I'm sure she'll have a miraculous recovery late in the afternoon on Christmas Day. 

 

I can picture her pulling this kind of a shit. I have an aunt by marriage who reminds me of Lori. My aunt has diabetes, had a kidney transplant years ago, and a couple of other health problems. I'm not doubting that she suffers. She seems to do similar shit like Lori. My aunt and uncle used to travel quite a bit as one of their daughters has a lot of money to play around with. In more recent years, my aunt can't travel that much while my uncle still can. She gets pissy when he goes off somewhere with my cousin and when he returns she is suddenly sick. Some of my relatives often wonder if she bullshits.

[kpmom]

26 minutes ago, lilwriter85 said:

I can picture her pulling this kind of a shit. I have an aunt by marriage who reminds me of Lori.

She pulled this on her son's wedding day.  She might have been suffering for real, I don't know, but that's one day of life that I'd SUCK IT UP!

She did make it, but let everyone know it was touch and go.

[Frog99]

So her doodle today demonstrates her limited and rigid thinking. I have worked from the age of 14 and never once have I been asked to take messages, return personal calls, or schedule details in my bosses’ lives. I also have never fetched coffee (unless we were in a meeting and took a short break and i was fixing coffee for myself- that’s just being nice and I would do it for staff as well. I have provided work related backup but that’s what it means to be a professional. Interaction with a boss in my world is related to status of projects and performance related exchanges. In this job i have a great  deal of autonomy so it’s mostly reporting out what I am doing. 

I have a husband who is my best friend and soul mate. He is my biggest cheerleader and I am his. He loves  that I am  feisty and independent.

 

[crawfishgirl]

So it's their anniversary and Ken is in the Caymans without Lori??  Hmmmm.....  happy anniversary....

Regarding her new profile picture on facebook - it seems like a more natural picture than the earlier one, which appeared to be professionally taken.  Someone mentioned that maybe she's going for a lifestyle blog with all of her 'natural' recipes - maybe that's accurate, and she added a natural picture to go along with that theme.  Though she must enjoy telling everyone how they can eat better if they just do everything her way, she'll still continue her pseudo-Christian judgmental posts to let us know how we are doing it all wrong.  

[AlwaysDiscerning]

That instagram quote was perfect for a meme. 

https://imgflip.com/i/20jdi6

 

[AuntKrazy]

2 hours ago, EowynW said:

My husband finds the idea of going off to have fun without me very unthinkable. He says either either both go or both stay. Because he loves being together so much. 

I just wanted to say that my husband travels for work without me.  He will be going to a math conference in January.  He also takes the occasional "fun" short trip - "fun" being in quotes because those short trips are usually sporting event related to events that I have no interest, and he goes with one of his good male friends.  But anything non-work related for more than a couple of days, I would be along.

And if he were going to Grand Cayman, (or somewhere similar) he would definitely take me!  We had the best day of our honeymoon in the Cayman islands, and I don't think he would ever go there without me.  

[SueEllenMishke]

41 minutes ago, Frog99 said:

So her doodle today demonstrates her limited and rigid thinking. I have worked from the age of 14 and never once have I been asked to take messages, return personal calls, or schedule details in my bosses’ lives. I also have never fetched coffee (unless we were in a meeting and took a short break and i was fixing coffee for myself- that’s just being nice and I would do it for staff as well. I have provided work related backup but that’s what it means to be a professional. Interaction with a boss in my world is related to status of projects and performance related exchanges. In this job i have a great  deal of autonomy so it’s mostly reporting out what I am doing. 

I have a husband who is my best friend and soul mate. He is my biggest cheerleader and I am his. He loves  that I am  feisty and independent.

 

Basically, she thinks that every working woman is Don Draper's secretary in Mad Men. Gotcha 

[Free Jana Duggar]

Lori would pass out to know my husband had a woman boss in the military. He also had a female supervisor for a little while when he did social work.  

Can anyone lnk the pic of Ken in the Caymans?  I looked at Alyssa's but did not see it. 

[EowynW]

16 minutes ago, AuntKrazy said:

I just wanted to say that my husband travels for work without me.  He will be going to a math conference in January.  He also takes the occasional "fun" short trip - "fun" being in quotes because those short trips are usually sporting event related to events that I have no interest, and he goes with one of his good male friends.  But anything non-work related for more than a couple of days, I would be along.

And if he were going to Grand Cayman, (or somewhere similar) he would definitely take me!  We had the best day of our honeymoon in the Cayman islands, and I don't think he would ever go there without me.  

Yes I can see it being different for a job requiring travel. Mr. EW is a big homebody and I think he'd keel over if he had to travel for work.  

[AlwaysDiscerning]

31 minutes ago, SueEllenMishke said:

Basically, she thinks that every working woman is Don Draper's secretary in Mad Men. Gotcha 

Exactly. Her whole thing is so narrow minded. Of course women can't possibly be doing anything else than secretary. And even the secretaries of today (admins) don't tend to bring coffee to their bosses.  A lot of workplaces have done away with sexist job duties. 

[Hisey]

I think Lori stayed home because of her mother's illness. Married couples--even unhappy ones--tend to travel together. I don't think Lori would want to miss out unless she had no choice.

I am all for cutting people slack, however, I can't do so with Ken. He is the one who said that incest was normal. He also said that sexual abuse wouldn't be such a big deal if women processed it better (as a normal thing). And why did he say this? So that women sexually abused in childhood would not have an "out" for "giving" their husband sex. I suspect it drove him crazy that women with traumatic sexual histories might have sexual problems in marriage that required their husbands to be patient. Or kind. Or understanding. Ken seems to desperately need the "sex on demand" type of marriage.

I think he marriage Lori because she was a pretty girl. He looks happy on their wedding day because he gets to have sex with her. Like a lot of men raised in fundy families, he seems extraordinarily sex-driven--remember, sex and basketball were non-negotiable. 

He also seems like a terrible lover. 

I don't think Ken really believes all this keeper-at-home stuff. He works with women all the time, He even insisted Lori leave their first baby with her mother while she worked. I think he says all that stuff to keep the peace.

I've often wondered what he'd do if Lori died. He would not be able to keep to his 3x-a-week sex schedule. Since he's told us that men "need" sex so badly that it's OK to have sex in a room with a child under 8 (Ken's words), what happens to that "need" when a wife dies? It doesn't seem like masturbation is an answer, or else wouldn't it have resolved his "need" long ago?