Lori Alexander 17: Pooping on Someone Else's Lawn

[onemama]

This comment of Lori's really bothered me:

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One woman was trying to convince me that “God called her” to send her children to public schooling.

Of course, Lori misrepresents the woman. This is what she actually said:

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 The answer for us to your question, Then why would you send your child to a school that leaves out God? Our answer is to bring God to a school that might never experience Him if we didn't show up in His name to love all people.

The lady politely answers her question with a different perspective. 

And when Lori replies, showing her little understanding of what "being separate" actually means:

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Children are very easily swayed and believe easily. It's been proven that a large percentage of children who are being raised in Christian homes are walking away from their faith due to public schooling. It's way too high of a price to pay. We are a remnant and told to be separate.

She replies, agreeing with Lori, explaining her position again, and stating that she's not against Lori, even wishing her God's blessing on her efforts.

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I believe there is research to prove that. I know God has called us to the public school for such a time as this. He has been faithful. It is our great duty as parents to be the primary teacher of God's Word to our children first. It is a much harder task when they are in public school but one in which God has provided opportunity and much grace and wisdom for us to do so. I am not against you in this my sister in Christ. Maybe just a different calling. May God continue to bless you in your efforts.

Yet Lori says 

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One woman was trying to convince me that “God called her” to send her children to public schooling.

The lady shared her perspective without arguing against Lori's. Lori can't have more than one valid perspective. Sad woman.

[laPapessaGiovanna]

13 hours ago, Koala said:

And in reference to that picture, the Modest Mentor said:

Cause there's usually an innocent explanation for a tied up naked woman. 

Well by now we know that Lori likes her kinks. It's the most innocent thing that comes to mind, even if considering this is Lori we are talking about, she would rather defend women's abusers and child molesters than consenting adults engaging in BDSM.

[louisa05]

So Lori's got a "don't have feelings, feelings are evil" notebook post. 

For no logical reason, those bother me more than any of her other crap. The other crap is kind of normal fundy gender nonsense, but that is out of left field to me. I wonder who taught her that she is evil if she feels anything and I can't help but think that that idea has made her the cold person nasty person that she is. Empathy requires feelings, after all. 

And this comment made me very sad for this woman, especially the bolded part: 

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Very timely thank you! My husband has been pointing out to me that I say "I feel" a lot when I am upset. I need to check my "feelings" which change like the wind depending on my mood (haha) against Scripture, which is unchanging. It was hard at first, my pride got in the way. But I see how many problems I created (usually in my head!) when I followed my "feelings."

What a sad and miserable marriage it must be. I cannot imagine trying to deal with a spouse who would tell me I have to "check my 'feelings' ". What a lack of support or compassion. And the quotes around feelings...guess what, Lori and commenters, feelings actually exist. We were made with the capacity for emotions and they are not all evil. They are real and valid and we should not seek to bury them. Burying all emotions is unhealthy. And, as Lori so well demonstrates, will turn you into a cold and heartless person. 

 

[onemama]

42 minutes ago, louisa05 said:

"don't have feelings, feelings are evil"

Notice it's only women's feelings she attacks. Men are fully entitled to their feelings.  

Frustration? This was at the end of a long rant defending a man's "right" to discipline his wife. Lori featured it on her blog.

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 Okay, I’m done. I am very frustrated about this and had a lot to say.

And let's not forget the many times Lori has shown sympathy to men complaining that they don't get enough sex or their wives don't submit enough.  She has all the time in the world for men's feelings. 

But notice here how Ken calls women to be completely vulnerable to their husbands, not bottle up their feelings. This is from his post "Does submitting to a husband in everything mean everything? 

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The reason why a wife often desires to control is because she is afraid not only of following her husband, but afraid of letting him into her own personal space where her deepest desires and fears reside. God has had the answer from the beginning of time to intimacy. The key to unlocking a wife’s heart comes only by her allowing her husband into every part of her life; her hopes, her dreams, her fears, her love, and her inner most being. Vulnerability is the necessary key to enter into a woman’s heart

just as it is if we want God fully into our hearts.

So... what should a woman do?  Be vulnerable with her feelings and risk being chided by her husband?  Do husbands want to know what's going on in their wives' minds or not?  

I have all sorts of problems with that paragraph, especially the part I separated and underlined, by the way. This is beyond creepy. I'd say it's way up there with wives being responsible for their husband's salvation. 

[onemama]

Todays blog post

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Written by Onemama

The bad thinking of MRAs that many Christian men have adopted:

“My wife's role is to meet my needs. I know exactly what those needs are but she shouldn't expect me to have to verbalize them, they certainly will change from time to time, but any loving wife will try to chase down my perceived needs and make me ‘feel’ like a powerful man who can make her feel like nobody else can. After all, she is to submit to me like the Church submits to Christ.”

“Women need to understand that men often don't want to talk about their problems, they just want their wife to provide sex, of the enthusiastic variety. Just give it to me, and don't ask what happened with that deal at work. Most of all, don’t use the Bible as it’s demeaning to me for you to quote scripture I haven't taught you how to interpret.  It makes me feel disrespected and like I'm being ruled by a Jezebel.”

“Sure, God wants the husband to love his wife, but a wife has to try to open up and trust her husband with everything and let him lead her so he can love her properly. It’s easy to love and cherish a wife who lets you lead, have the last word in everything, and never argues against you.  If  a wife doesn't fully submit to her husband, he can't connect with her. How do you expect a husband to not be harsh to an unsubmissive wife?”

What is the problem with each of these? The husband sets himself up as judge and jury of what works in a marriage with disregard for what God says. And unfortunately, this thinking is far too often taught in some churches and MRA "Christian" circles. “You can be like God” is not just a lie of Satan in the garden, but the fundamental lie at the root of the unhappiness for many Christian husbands. A commitment to doing things God’s ways means allowing Christ to lead and using God’s Word as the judge and jury, not the lies of MRAs.

It is ironic that the things that many Christian husbands desire most in their marriage are prevented by their own bad thinking and inability to be vulnerable to God and their wife. They want their “needs” met, but they will not love and honor their wives as fellow human beings so they want to meet those needs of love, sex and companionship, because it means giving up control and most of all, giving up feeling that they are right when they are wrong.

 

There you go, Ken. 

[louisa05]

@onemama, I think women are allowed to have the feelings their husbands give them permission to have and only at specified times.

I suspect Lori grew up in a home environment where children were not allowed to express emotions. Particularly negative ones. And that isn't just a funds thing unfortunately.

[smittykins]

^+1000

"You shouldn't feel like that."

 "You don't hate him, he's your brother."

 "Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about."

[AlwaysDiscerning]

So now Lori is saying if you have sex and it doesn't result in procreation its satanic....yup...her latest doodle....

[BlackSheep]

Onemama, that was brilliant. Upvote!

[onemama]

40 minutes ago, louisa05 said:

@onemama, I think women are allowed to have the feelings their husbands give them permission to have and only at specified times.

That probably sums it up. 

Thank you! @BlackSheep

[Loveday]

1 hour ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

So now Lori is saying if you have sex and it doesn't result in procreation its satanic....yup...her latest doodle....

So she and Ken are having satanic sex, apparently, as she's gone through menopause and procreation is off the table now.  Come to think of it, my husband and I are having satanic sex, too, as my baby factory closed down quite some time ago. Can't wait to inform him of this. 

 

[Chocolatedefrauded]

Yup, lots of satanic sex going on! Any woman over 45 or so is having satanic sex!

[WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo?]

The age at which a woman isn't able to procreate anymore can vary a bit. I'm pretty sure my "satanic sex" status is due to having my tubes tied and not because I'm over 45, but then again, I don't have any way to test that theory!  Just because I haven't hit menopause yet it doesn't mean I could get pregnant, or carry a baby to term.

It makes me really glad that I got to choose when to try to have kids and when to prevent pregnancy. (Choose together with my husband, unlike a certain birth control sabotaging blogger.) I hate the idea that people like Lori and Ken want to take that choice away from couples, and especially away from women. 

[quiversR4hunting]

On ‎4‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 1:43 PM, Hisey said:

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Ballet M is actually a touring dance company. Alyssa started out as an apprentice (where you have to pay) and then became a member of the  company. Interestingly, she moved to their headquarters in Mississippi at 18, found an apartment, and established herself there at a young age. Pretty impressive. I wonder how she managed to get her parents to agree to all this. . . 

(my bolding) to be fair Alyssa was raised by a master manipulator.

[polecat]

4 hours ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

So now Lori is saying if you have sex and it doesn't result in procreation its satanic....yup...her latest doodle....

Except ... Lori's had lots of non-procreative sex. What's her excuse? 

 

Oh yeah ... "Do as I say and not as I do." Right. 

2 hours ago, Loveday said:

So she and Ken are having satanic sex, apparently, as she's gone through menopause and procreation is off the table now.  Come to think of it, my husband and I are having satanic sex, too, as my baby factory closed down quite some time ago. Can't wait to inform him of this. 

 

 

Hell,  I've been having Satanic sex for more than a decade since my husband's baby tubes were cut and seared. Whoops! 

 

[Chocolatedefrauded]

Satanic sex sounds so much more exciting than 10 minutes & some lube....

[Seahorse Wrangler]

I shall bask in my widowhood sanctioned non-satanic non-sex.....

 

 

 

I shall probably be forced to judge all of you sinners sooner or later/sarcasm

[feministxtian]

Ooooh....I've been having satanic sex for the last 25 years when my babycooker got removed...and I thought that the upside was 30 days of fun a month...

[HoneyBunny]

Frankly, I've only ever known satanic sex. As a DES daughter, I was strongly advised to not have children and warned that any pregnancy would likely result in a significantly premature birth and a host of life long health issues should my baby even survive. Not being a selfish beotch like many of these fundies who ignore medical advice and risk their family's future just to have one more blessing, I thought I'd do the unChristian thing and listen to my doctor. 

If that's satanic, I'm cool with it. 

BTW, menopausal satanic sex is some of the best satanic sex ever. The lube helps and due to my husband's age, ten minutes might be our limit too. But the difference between me and Lori is that my husband only has to smile at me for me to be ready and willing. I don't have to just lie back and think of the Bible as she does. 

[freealljs]

Lori does realize that she too has satanic sex (even if it's only ten minutes with lube/coconut oil). Has anyone on FB pointed that out? 

I personally have loved every minute of satanic sex that I've had and continue to have. Go satanic sex (please someone make this our next threat count title)!!!

[lawfulevil]

Well I for one think Satanic sex is all wrong!

1. "Oh Satan, oh Satan, oh Satan!!!" just doesn't roll off the tongue the same way.

2. Having sex in the same room as a creepy Jesus painting is bad enough, especially when the eyes follow you. Having sex while Karl Rove stares at you is TERRIBLE.

3. Victoria's Secret overcharges for the matching goat head and satyr heels accessories.

4. I don't know about you, but I can only do anything upside down for so long before I get faint.

5. And I'm REALLY tired of trying to play Dungeons and Dragons at the same time!

[Gemini]

Satanic sex? Major attack on Ken there! 

You have to give her credit, it's a creative way to try and get out of her 10 minute lube duty with Ken. And of course, because a wife has no choice but to do what her husband says, she's just being Godly by participating in said satanic sex. 

Only we all know you're not thinking of God during Ken's satanic pleasures Lori, it's your big house, Mercedes, expensive clothes and your orange tree in the yard that are in your thoughts when you have sex with someone you obviously dislike. 

[onemama]

This is Lori clarifying this concept of "satanic sex" 

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Of course barren women should have sex with their husbands because they aren't intentionally preventing having babies just as women past child bearing shouldn't stop having sex because they can't have children. We are commanded to not deprive each other. However, one of God's main purposes for having sex is to produce children for those who are able. When you take away this purpose, you make it only about sex which has lead our culture to believe that children are disposable, unwanted, a nuisance, and not valuable, whereas God calls them gifts and a blessing.

But then she messes it up in a further comment:

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When sex is separated from procreation, then same sex marriage is okay, sex before marriage using birth control, using birth control for the purpose of never having children, pornography, and all types of sexual immorality because sex becomes simply sex for sex sake instead of what God's original design for it is to be - one man and one woman until death do they part producing godly offspring.

Same-sex couples aren't intentionally preventing having babies, they just can't produce babies, much like a barren couple can't produce babies, but that doesn't mean they consider children disposable, unwanted or a nuisance.  In fact, couples struggling to conceive are longing for a baby and many homosexual couples want children and adopt them, so there goes your theory, Lori.   

Sex is for more than just procreation, and she knows it, but she won't pass up an opportunity to remind women -and women alone- that their existence is all about making sacrifices, living selflessly and bearing and raising the next generation. She further drives the point by saying this is "their greatest usefulness to their creator". That little bit alone, their greatest usefulness, is such a slap and insult to the personhood of women!  You know, Lori (and Dorothy Patterson, whom she's quoting here), if I never had a baby, God would still love me for the poerson I I am. I'm "useful" to him in many, many, many ways that have nothing whatsoever to do with bearing children!  

And this whole piece is such a slap in the face of barren women.. I don't even want to go there.  Lori is such a foolish woman. 

[smittykins]

I'm actually kind of surprised she didn't go the "God can perform miracles" route.  "If Sarah could conceive in her old age, who's to say He wouldn't bless a 'barren' woman today?"(because doctors are only human and sometimes make mistakes, doncha know)

[Pammy]

3 minutes ago, smittykins said:

I'm actually kind of surprised she didn't go the "God can perform miracles" route.  "If Sarah could conceive in her old age, who's to say He wouldn't bless a 'barren' woman today?"(because doctors are only human and sometimes make mistakes, doncha know)

That would have required Lori to actually *know* some of those Bible stories from the Old Testsment. I don't think she's read more of the Bible than Her favorite selections of Titus and Peter in a decade!