President Cheeto 8: Our Long National Nightmare Begins

[47of74]

29 minutes ago, Childless said:

When it comes to violence as a percentage of population, Chicago doesn't even crack the top ten.  You know which cities do?  St. Louis (#1), Birmingham (#3), Memphis (#4), Milwaukee (#5), Little Rock (#8), and Kansas City (#10).  A majority of the most violent cities are in Republican states.  How come the Putinfluffer isn't threatening to raid them?  Oh, yeah.  Because this isn't about stopping violence.  Donnie Dumbfuck doesn't give two shits about that.  It's about partisan politics in general and Obama in particular (he seems to have an unhealthy obsession with the Obamas).

Wow, Chicago doesn't even crack the top 25.  Sit down Donnie.  You're an idiot.

Yeah, he's a fucking idiot.

228 people shot out of about 2.7 million people.  That's like 0.000084 percent of the population.  It's 228 people too many getting shot, and the gun deaths are 42 people higher than they should be.  But this barely qualifies as carnage.  Probably a hell of a lot more died of natural causes (illness, etc) or accident than in violence even up to now.  I love visiting Chicago but would be more worried about traffic taking me out than violence.

8 minutes ago, iweartanktops said:

I'm freaking out. It hasn't been a week. We've got:

EPA

Abortion 

The fucking wall that WE will be paying for 

Federal jobs

The pipeline

Refugees and Muslims 

Healthcare 

I'm sure I'm forgetting things. He's destroyed our country, and people on Twitter were saying he's annointed by Jesus last night. I'm scared. 

I saw this morning where France has launched a new program to streamline immigration of academics and scientists who have to leave their homes because of oppression;

http://www.gouvernement.fr/en/a-new-programme-for-emergency-reception-of-exiled-scientists

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Alerted by actors in the realm of higher education and research to the situation of academics whose academic freedoms or even lives are threatened, Thierry Mandon decided to create a programme enabling reception of foreign researchers and research professors in emergency situations, similar to schemes that have long existed in the United States and the United Kingdom, and, more recently, in Germany.
 
Designed on the basis of a report by Liora Israël delivered on 22 September 2016, the programme’s creation was announced at the “Migrations, Refugees and Exile” colloquium held on 13 October to mark the start of the Collège de France’s new academic year, and will be overseen by the Collège de France itself. To be developed in collaboration with higher education and research institutions and public research bodies, the programme will also be accompanied by a high-level Sponsoring Committee, whose preliminary composition has been entrusted to Edith Heard, Professor at the Collège de France, and Collège de France administrator Alain Prochiantz.

I wonder how long it will be until they're having to welcome American scientists and academics who get attacked by the Branch Trumpvidians in and outside government?

[unholypoledancer]

2 hours ago, PraiseDog said:

I've considered the opposite - what if many of us who currently live in progressive urban areas, could relocate to red districts?  Those of us who work for companies that allow "distance management" or even a few days per week of "work from home" could do a lot for our country by making their living in "alternate" (red) counties or districts.   Let's spread ourselves out, folks! And vote accordingly.
 

My husband and I are doing this! We are actually relocating to WI (which is red right now) and we both work from home. I am also planning on getting involved in running for office. I've joked with hubby that I should make him the first first gentleman of Wisconsin by running for Gov. someday. Our relocation has to do with the fact that our state is getting too expensive and we need more property than most places allow for our budget.

[AuntK]

And I don't feel sorry for Melania Trump either. When you marry for money, you get everything that comes with it. He was a cheating, misogynist douchebag when she married him, he still is.  I recently saw a You tube of her appearance with Joy Behar, probably here on FJ. She was parroting her husband, going on and on about how Obama's Certificate of Live Birth wasn't a birth certificate, in her best Slovenian accent. (Like she would even have a clue!) Joy pointed out if that were the case, then no one from Hawaii could ever be president, because that's what a Hawaiian birth certificate looks like! Crickets.

And, I'm gonna be catty here, so avert your eyes if cattiness offends you. I DON'T think she's beautiful! I think Michelle Obama is - beautiful smile, big warm brown eyes, great hair. Melania? Attractive and well-groomed? Yes, and yes, she has a great figure, especially considering her age, but she has small, squinty eyes, and not much of a smile and just doesn't have the charisma we've been used to in a FLOTUS. Beauty begins on the inside. . .

And I prefer seeing FLOTUS wearing clothes from the Gap, Target and Banana Republic!

[Childless]

2 hours ago, PraiseDog said:

I've considered the opposite - what if many of us who currently live in progressive urban areas, could relocate to red districts?  Those of us who work for companies that allow "distance management" or even a few days per week of "work from home" could do a lot for our country by making their living in "alternate" (red) counties or districts.   Let's spread ourselves out, folks! And vote accordingly.
This last "election" - more like the electoral college exactly -  made our urban and coastal votes less valuable than the middle states.  So, those of us whose work can be done at a distance, online, etc. - as well as those of us who can afford to move or are retired, let's move to the middle states or to rural districts in our own states. Tons of beautiful properties there are for sale to the highest bidder, for cheap-ass prices.  Beautiful historic homes, farms with really unique histories and heritage 1000-y-old trees, orchards, the best soil that hasn't been concreted over or poisoned by big-ag. let's take advantage! 
Let's not allow our wonderful homes and land continue to be bought up by the same banks who foreclosed on us and our aging parents, and who then rented it back to families for insane prices.   
example: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/business/investors-are-looking-to-buy-homes-by-the-thousands.html
as well as:https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/investors-who-bought-foreclosed-homes-in-bulk-look-to-cash-in/?_r=0
It sickens me that the same banks and investment companies who caused the 2008 recession - not only were they never punished - and not only did their victims never get refinancing - but these same asshole bankers got to buy up the same homes they foreclosed on, for way less than their original market price (after making tons of money on the hedge-fund market)  and rent them out for way more than what a mortgage should have cost -  in many cases to the same people who tried to buy them originally.  
And I bet each of us (I know I do) has an abandoned house or two on our block, which looks like shit with boarded-up windows and weeds growing everywhere, bringing down the value of all of our homes so that selling and moving somewhere else is out of the question.

Nope.  I currently live in a very red area in a very red state.  My liberal and progressive votes have done jack shit.  I'm going coastal as soon as I can.  I'm not living in a place I hate just to spread out the blue vote.  I'll help all I can, but I draw the line right there.

[HarryPotterFan]

The orange shit gibbon declared he will investigate voter fraud, because even though he's president his fragile ego can't handle losing the popular vote.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/president-donald-trump-says-he-will-ask-major-investigation-allegations-n711956?client=safari

[Childless]

8 minutes ago, HarryPotterFan said:

The orange shit gibbon declared he will investigate voter fraud, because even though he's president his fragile ego can't handle losing the popular vote.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/president-donald-trump-says-he-will-ask-major-investigation-allegations-n711956?client=safari

He isn't going to recoup 2.8 million votes based on voter fraud.  Seriously, as president, doesn't he have more important things to worry about?  Jesus, the man has the most fragile ego of anyone I know.  I can't believe people voted in a person with such weak character.  This country has lost its fucking mind.

[Howl]

32 minutes ago, 47of74 said:

Probably a hell of a lot more died of natural causes (illness, etc) or accident than in violence even up to now. 

I'd like to see gun violence stats against non-gun-related deaths caused by poverty and it's fellow travelers: lack of health care (maternal death rates), food deserts (no access to decent grocery stores; sky-high rates of diabetes/obesity), drug overdose, domestic violence, young teen pregnancies -- I could go on and on and on.  Sadly, nobody is calling on the Feds to flood the area with social workers, free medical and dental clinics, free rehab clinics, free birth control and food banks.  

[Fundie Bunny]

2 hours ago, PraiseDog said:

I've considered the opposite - what if many of us who currently live in progressive urban areas, could relocate to red districts?

It honestly shocks me you would consider relocating to another part of the country instead of fighting against the injustice that your voting system creates. It is not normal and it is not right. You deserve better. Fight for your rights

[VelociRapture]

55 minutes ago, Terrie said:

I feel sorry for those like John McCain, who are standing by their principles and being spit on by their party for it. those who are willing to toady up to Trump in hopes of a payoff can choke on a biscuit for all I care.

I honestly don't feel that bad for him. I feel more sympathy then I would for others (like Christie or Gingrich) , but he still supported Trump's candidacy. Doesn't matter how reluctant he was - he still sold out his principles and his country by doing that. I'm grateful he's standing strong in opposition on some things now, but that doesn't erase the fact that he helped get us into this mess.

11 minutes ago, Fundie Bunny said:

It honestly shocks me you would consider relocating to another part of the country instead of fighting against the injustice that your voting system creates. It is not normal and it is not right. You deserve better. Fight for your rights

The thing is, we can't fight for or rights effectively by staying in blue areas right now. Republicans have gerrymandered too many districts in key states for real change to be made if every liberal stays in blue states. There are organizations, like the ACLU, who are committed to fighting against Trump in the courts - but it can't be the only course of action.

The best course of action, would be if enough liberals choose to move to swing districts in swing states. If enough people do that then eventually those states will turn blue and, at that point, it'll be easier to get rid of unfair voting laws and even out district lines to make things fairer for both parties.

[Screamapillar]

32 minutes ago, AuntK said:

And, I'm gonna be catty here, so avert your eyes if cattiness offends you. I DON'T think she's beautiful! I think Michelle Obama is - beautiful smile, big warm brown eyes, great hair. Melania? Attractive and well-groomed? Yes, and yes, she has a great figure, especially considering her age, but she has small, squinty eyes, and not much of a smile and just doesn't have the charisma we've been used to in a FLOTUS. Beauty begins on the inside. . .

And I prefer seeing FLOTUS wearing clothes from the Gap, Target and Banana Republic!

I do think Melania is attractive, but the conservative media and Trump voters gushing over her as such a "beautiful" and stylish First Lady makes me absolutely sick because it just seems racist. Like, they're not blatantly saying that they're happy to have a petite, blandly dressed white woman as First Lady...but that's pretty much what they're saying.

Or maybe I'm just so irritated by it all that anything Trump supporters do or say = racism.

Also, anyone with a sense of style or beauty knows that Michelle Obama is incomparable!

[Penny]

So now we are going to spend money to investigate his claim of voter fraud? I say he should spend his own money to investigate the unsubstantiated claims and not spend taxpayer money. I hope it does not take more than a few more days for Republicans to realize he is an accident waiting to happen.

[iweartanktops]

41 minutes ago, HarryPotterFan said:

The orange shit gibbon declared he will investigate voter fraud, because even though he's president his fragile ego can't handle losing the popular vote.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/president-donald-trump-says-he-will-ask-major-investigation-allegations-n711956?client=safari

This is such a fucking waste. 

Here's something that gave me a necessary laugh:

 

 

[ShepherdontheRock]

48 minutes ago, AuntK said:

And I don't feel sorry for Melania Trump either. When you marry for money, you get everything that comes with it. He was a cheating, misogynist douchebag when she married him, he still is.  I recently saw a You tube of her appearance with Joy Behar, probably here on FJ. She was parroting her husband, going on and on about how Obama's Certificate of Live Birth wasn't a birth certificate, in her best Slovenian accent. (Like she would even have a clue!) Joy pointed out if that were the case, then no one from Hawaii could ever be president, because that's what a Hawaiian birth certificate looks like! Crickets.

Yeah, I can't get behind the #FreeMelania thing because I feel like it portrays a false narrative of her as a damsel in distress...and I don't think she's as helpless as they'd like her to think. I think it's almost as dangerous that we armchair diagnose her as the "battered wife" as it is for us to armchair diagnose Barron as being autistic. 

I'm sorry that she's the kind of person that would choose to marry him. I feel sorry that Barron's father is Donald. That's it. 

 

[47of74]

2 minutes ago, iweartanktops said:

This is such a fucking waste. 

Here's something that gave me a necessary laugh:

 

 

LOL!!!!  I am totally swiping that!  I wonder if Pornhub will soon have to ask people to stop submitting rich white man fucks entire country videos like they did when Germany kicked Brazil's ass on the soccer field;

independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/pornhub-pleads-users-to-stop-uploading-videos-of-brazil-getting-fked-by-germany-in-the-world-cup-9594287.html

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In the world's continuing mission to completely humiliate Brazil in the wake of its 7-1 World Cup semi-final defeat to Germany, adult site Pornhub has allegedly been flooded with highlights of the game.

Footage of the goals bearing the title 'Young Brazilians get f**ked by entire German soccer team' (and other more explicit variants) quickly sprang up following the game (at least according to hundreds of screen grabs circulating Twitter), with the site eventually asking football fans to cease with the gag whilst getting a swipe in at Brazil's performance itself.

"Please stop uploading the game highlights to Pornhub... Our public humiliation category is full. #BrazilvsGermany," it tweeted.

 

[Jucifer]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jan/24/george-orwell-1984-sales-surge-kellyanne-conway-alternative-facts

 

'Sales of George Orwell’s dystopian drama 1984 have soared after Kellyanne Conway, adviser to the reality-TV-star-turned-president, Donald Trump, used the phrase “alternative facts” in an interview. As of Tuesday, the book was the sixth best-selling book on Amazon.

Comparisons were made with the term “newspeak” used in the 1949 novel, which was used to signal a fictional language that aims at eliminating personal thought and also “doublethink”. In the book Orwell writes that it “means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them”.'

 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/25/media/george-orwell-1984-best-seller/

 

'On Tuesday evening and Wednesday morning the book was #1 on Amazon's computer-generated list of best-selling books. The list reflects hourly book sales. 

The 68-year-old novel appeared on the list on Monday, hovered around the #6 spot for much of the day, rose to #2 by Tuesday afternoon and then hit #1. 

Lower down on Amazon's best sellers list are two other classic novels with similar themes: "It Can't Happen Here," by Sinclair Lewis, and "Brave New World," by Aldous Huxley. 

It is hard to say for sure how much of the interest is related to Donald Trump's inauguration and the rise of "alternative facts," a term coined by Trump senior advisor Kellyanne Conway on Sunday. 

Related: 'Alternative facts:' Why the Trump team is 'planting a flag' in war on media

But some commentators called Conway's comment "Orwellian" and drew comparisons to the famous novel. 

"1984" tells a harrowing story within a world of government surveillance, propaganda and "newspeak." In the book, the "Ministry of Truth" actually delivers lies. 

The publishing house responsible for the book noticed the recent spike in sales. 

"We put through a 75,000 copy reprint this week. That is a substantial reprint and larger than our typical reprint for '1984,'" a Penguin spokesman told CNNMoney Tuesday evening. 

The spokesman explained that the start of the spring semester always leads to new sales of the book, since "1984" is a staple in classrooms. But the size of this reprint is unusual.'

 

[JMarie]

2 hours ago, AuntK said:

You feel bad for that list of deplorables? I certainly DO NOT and NEVER will.  Those bottom-feeding, butt-kissing, self-centered, troglodytes don't deserve sympathy from anyone! Yes, they were all jockeying for positions in Herr Trumpelthinskin's regime so that they could join him in depriving people of health care benefits, equal rights, and anything else that benefits them, all the while lining their own pockets like their leader. They knew full well what he was so I doubt any of them were surprised that they were not selected for a position within the administration.  He USES people until they are no longer useful to him. 

But "kinda sorry for them?"  HELL NO!!!!

Don't get me wrong, I disagree with everything the above people stand for.  But they made a real effort to promote Trump, making lots of appearances in person and on air (not that they already had super busy schedules).  Newt was in Congress, and could have easily filled a cabinet position.  Same for Chris (governor) and Rudy (former mayor).  It would make more sense to appoint someone with actual political experience than someone who doesn't (DeVos, Tillerson, Puzder, ect).  That's what a rational person would do.

[kpmom]

51 minutes ago, Penny said:

So now we are going to spend money to investigate his claim of voter fraud? I say he should spend his own money to investigate the unsubstantiated claims and not spend taxpayer money. I hope it does not take more than a few more days for Republicans to realize he is an accident waiting to happen.

I'm assuming he's going on and on about voter fraud in order to deflect all of the Russia stuff.

Since he's pissed off the C.I.A., The New York Times and The Washington Post, I imagine if there is even a hint of truth to  Russia interfering with the election and him (or his minions) knowing about it, it will come out. 

One thing I'll give him, he's very good at "Don't look over there, look here".  I'm going to guess he's preparing.

[Ali]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/01/25/we-asked-people-which-inauguration-crowd-was-bigger-heres-what-they-said/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.4e214416183e

This article is about a survey that shows photographic evidence will not change some beliefs.

[47of74]

36 minutes ago, JMarie said:

Don't get me wrong, I disagree with everything the above people stand for.  But they made a real effort to promote Trump, making lots of appearances in person and on air (not that they already had super busy schedules).  Newt was in Congress, and could have easily filled a cabinet position.  Same for Chris (governor) and Rudy (former mayor).  It would make more sense to appoint someone with actual political experience than someone who doesn't (DeVos, Tillerson, Puzder, ect).  That's what a rational person would do.

Not too long ago I read that George Washington tried to appoint people who had different political beliefs in order to prevent the "spirit of party" from hobbling his administrations.  I wish to the good sweet Lord Jesus Christ, the Dark Lord Satan, The Force, Kahless, G'Quan, and so on that we had followed Washington's advise about party politics.  We wouldn't have the Cheeto in office now if we had.

[JMarie]

50 minutes ago, kpmom said:

I'm assuming he's going on and on about voter fraud in order to deflect all of the Russia stuff.

Since he's pissed off the C.I.A., The New York Times and The Washington Post, I imagine if there is even a hint of truth to  Russia interfering with the election and him (or his minions) knowing about it, it will come out. 

One thing I'll give him, he's very good at "Don't look over there, look here".  I'm going to guess he's preparing.

Don't forget the lawsuits.  The assaulted women suing him.  Him suing the assaulted women.  Those tween performers who didn't get paid for appearing at events.  The contractors who still haven't been paid for completing the Post Office hotel.  He'll tweet about all those people out to get him, and his pearlclutcher supporters will be "leave Donnie alone" (said with the gusto of that leave Britney alone guy) and "he's our president, accept it and move on" (like Kristy Swanson* did on Tucker Carlson's show last night.

*Yes, Buffy Summers

[iweartanktops]

2 hours ago, Childless said:

He isn't going to recoup 2.8 million votes based on voter fraud.  Seriously, as president, doesn't he have more important things to worry about?  Jesus, the man has the most fragile ego of anyone I know.  I can't believe people voted in a person with such weak character.  This country has lost its fucking mind.

Right? Can you imagine if President Obama had thrown a tantrum every time people talked shit? He literally wouldn't have had time to do anything but whine. Nothing. 

Trump is like a 5 year old tattle-tale. 

[ShepherdontheRock]

1 hour ago, JMarie said:

 He'll tweet about all those people out to get him, and his pearlclutcher supporters will be "leave Donnie alone" (said with the gusto of that leave Britney alone guy) and "he's our president, accept it and move on" (like Kristy Swanson* did on Tucker Carlson's show last night.

Some comic relief, Chris Crocker (that leave Britney Alone guy) actually made a leave Donald Trump alone video. 

Also this:

 

[47of74]

44 minutes ago, iweartanktops said:

Right? Can you imagine if President Obama had thrown a tantrum every time people talked shit? He literally wouldn't have had time to do anything but whine. Nothing. 

Trump is like a 5 year old tattle-tale. 

I will preface by saying President Obama is, if not the best, one of the best Presidents we've had in the time I've been on this Earth (41.5 years).

But I wish President Obama had dropped the hammer a bit earlier a few more times when dealing with Republican fuck stickery than he had.  I know he was probably worried that people would say he was just another angry black guy, but these same people attacked him anyways.  I mean Hannity all Bill-O the Blow Hard called him names no matter what he did, so I wish he had given these right wing masturbate offs a real reason to despise him.  Maybe if he had been more of a hard, pipe hitting liberal we wouldn't have this Orange Shit fouling up the White House now, and have someone to continue Obama's legacy in the White House.

[iweartanktops]

I can't link it right now, but apparently Trump is saying that Mexico will reimburse us for the wall. Sounds legit. So, will we each receive a personal check? 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155970867116509&id=5550296508

There. 

[Jucifer]

2 hours ago, Ali said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/01/25/we-asked-people-which-inauguration-crowd-was-bigger-heres-what-they-said/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.4e214416183e

This article is about a survey that shows photographic evidence will not change some beliefs.

"On the first full day of the Trump administration, White House press secretary Sean Spicer admonished the news media for reporting that the crowd that witnessed Trump’s inauguration was smaller than other recent inauguration crowds, claiming, “This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration — period — both in person and around the globe.”

I think maybe he was trying to conflate the number of people attending the inauguration and the people who watched it on TV.  That way he wouldn't technically be lying and he would be calming DT TF down.  

I wouldn't wish Spicer's troubles on a monkey on a rock. (miss you, David Letterman!)

I really don't know what to think about the Trump voters who answered the survey and said their guy's crowd was bigger.  Things that make you go hmm...