Anna & the M Kids – Part 7

[CorruptionInc.]

6 hours ago, calimojo said:

When People defend the Bates because they are more entertaining or their children seem more spirited and more well adjusted,  I think it would serve us all to remember that Hitler had a soft spot for animals, Dogs in particular.  There are many historic pictures of him looking affectionate and nice with his pets.  This doesn't mean that he wasn't a monster.   

 

I agree. It's very uncommon for people not to like animals.

[alba]

19 hours ago, calimojo said:

Someone implied upstream that Anna may be sheltering her kids and that is why we didn't see a birthday greeting for Meri.  No,  that probably is not the case.  If so,  then Anna wouldn't agree to be on CO.  I think they are not paying as much attention to the M kids in general.  When they aren't exploiting Anna's pain for the show, or exploiting it as "the trouble they walked through" as if they stepped into to dog poo,  then they are just not doing much with the Josh branch of the family.  But have no fears,  if they can milk ratings out of it they will.  As they wind down in ratings,  they will do whatever it takes, including bringing Josh on the air.  They are above nothing to get every last bit of money.

Just so you know, I very nearly spat tea all over my laptop reading this!

[RosyDaisy]

In all honesty,  they should be thanking Josh for his issues, because they were winding down already.   

What actual fuck? Josh should be thanked for molesting 6 young girls and committing adultery? In what universe is this even remotely something one should be thanked for?

[calimojo]

3 minutes ago, RosyDaisy said:

What actual fuck? Josh should be thanked for molesting 6 young girls and committing adultery? In what universe is this even remotely something one should be thanked for?

Oh my,  I didn't mean it like that.  I meant that the idiot Duggars are getting a lot of mileage out of the Josh scandal.  It is what has kept them relevant in the past year or so.  I certainly didn't mean to imply that the molestations were a good thing.  I was being sarcastic that without the scandals I think they were fading away.  They had a bump up in interest with Jill and then Jessa's weddings, but that would have gotten old eventually.  But the scandal, that repulsed most reasonable people, also somehow made them even more sympathetic to their inbred followers.  And, the media attention kept them on the front pages of countless tabloids.  So while most of us hoped that the scandal would make them go away,  it hasn't worked that way.  IN an ironic way,  the 2 josh scandals made them even more famous.  Infamous as well, but famous.  This will provide them with story lines for years.  Right now it is the whole 'walking through" and isn't Anna a righteous, godly wife for sticking with him" story line.  Eventually it will be Josh's redemption story line, and likely at some point the 'victims' will talk again about how they overcame their trauma and rehash walking through again. 

[Arix]

2 hours ago, RosyDaisy said:

What actual fuck? Josh should be thanked for molesting 6 young girls and committing adultery? In what universe is this even remotely something one should be thanked for?

Being pedantic here, but five. One of the girls was not molested.

[RosyDaisy]

@Arix There are actually six victims. Five listed on the police report and another who contacted the Duggars privately. There was an article a few months ago about this sixth victim. It left no doubt that this was a separate victim, not one of the others. I'll go look for it.

@calimmojo Thanks for clarifying that. Sorry I overreacted.

[calimojo]

@RosyDaisy- No problem.  In my head as I wrote that, it made perfect sense.  Context can be lost in written text though.

 

Anyway,  just so everyone knows, I find Josh's actions truly horrible.  I don't completely blame him though and see him as a victim of a really messed up life.  He was not born into the craziness like the others and had to go through a big change as his parents became more and more committed to their new lifestyle.  He endured and probably witnessed harsh discipline and as the oldest, he was probably given power over the younger children that was very inappropriate for his age.  That combined with the sexual repression and so much other dysfunction twisted this young man into what he is today.    He is accountable for what he did, but it is at least understandable that he would have been so broken.  His parents should shoulder most if not all of the blame, even for his actions as an adult, since they inadequately had him treated when his other issues were known.  They planted the seeds of perversion in him, gave it plenty of fertilizer and water, and then stood back and let it grow.  They then put him in a hot house filled with odd family dynamics, inflated and inappropriate supervision of young children by older children and a weird sexually obsessed culture that seems to operate continuously, while denying normal and natural sexual development and behavior. 

[QuiverDance]

On 9/5/2016 at 11:03 AM, calimojo said:

Oh my,  I didn't mean it like that.  I meant that the idiot Duggars are getting a lot of mileage out of the Josh scandal.  It is what has kept them relevant in the past year or so.  I certainly didn't mean to imply that the molestations were a good thing.  I was being sarcastic that without the scandals I think they were fading away.  They had a bump up in interest with Jill and then Jessa's weddings, but that would have gotten old eventually.  But the scandal, that repulsed most reasonable people, also somehow made them even more sympathetic to their inbred followers.  And, the media attention kept them on the front pages of countless tabloids.  So while most of us hoped that the scandal would make them go away,  it hasn't worked that way.  IN an ironic way,  the 2 josh scandals made them even more famous.  Infamous as well, but famous.  This will provide them with story lines for years.  Right now it is the whole 'walking through" and isn't Anna a righteous, godly wife for sticking with him" story line.  Eventually it will be Josh's redemption story line, and likely at some point the 'victims' will talk again about how they overcame their trauma and rehash walking through again. 

 

For what it is worth, I thought is was perfectly clear what you meant.  Of course you did not mean to imply that there was anything positive about a boy molesting six girls.  FFS.  You shouldn't have to apologize for your statement at all.  

[Toothfairy]

On Sunday, September 04, 2016 at 2:10 PM, calimojo said:

When People defend the Bates because they are more entertaining or their children seem more spirited and more well adjusted,  I think it would serve us all to remember that Hitler had a soft spot for animals, Dogs in particular.  There are many historic pictures of him looking affectionate and nice with his pets.  This doesn't mean that he wasn't a monster.   

 

The Bates may well be, within their own household better parents.  They may allow their children to be more expressive and to follow their dreams, and they may even support education more strongly, but that means nothing.   Being hypocrites is a feature of this cult.  The Bates are examples of this.  And the reason why many of us feel this makes them more dangerous is because the Duggars clearly show how they are different from us.  To follow them we would have to change to them.  The Bates, on the other hand, seductively show how they are really  like us.  (Except of course for ginormous elephant in the room). 

Someone implied upstream that Anna may be sheltering her kids and that is why we didn't see a birthday greeting for Meri.  No,  that probably is not the case.  If so,  then Anna wouldn't agree to be on CO.  I think they are not paying as much attention to the M kids in general.  When they aren't exploiting Anna's pain for the show, or exploiting it as "the trouble they walked through" as if they stepped into to dog poo,  then they are just not doing much with the Josh branch of the family.  But have no fears,  if they can milk ratings out of it they will.  As they wind down in ratings,  they will do whatever it takes, including bringing Josh on the air.  They are above nothing to get every last bit of money. 

In all honesty,  they should be thanking Josh for his issues, because they were winding down already.  If they are smart,  they will be able to mild the Josh situation for years.  Even if it is just a periodic tabloid cover, it will still be enough to keep them on the radar.  Babies and weddings will stop being interesting to the sheep, and the only thing that will keep them interesting with be the Josh thing and his redemption tour, or another scandal.  Actually,  if they were smart, they would plan a fake "defection' from the family as that would generate a lot of interest.  They could play the public like a fiddle if they had Jana or the boy twins pretend to break free.  Wouldn't a show like "Duggars in the City" be a hit for awhile?  

Jimchelle could care less abut Anna and the M kids. It's all about them. I wouldn't be surprised if Jim Bob set one of his kids up then pimps them out again

[realist51]

Watching CO (sorry). Anna is obviously pregnant.

[Arix]

23 minutes ago, realist51 said:

Watching CO (sorry). Anna is obviously pregnant.

Filmed three months ago. Food baby.

[Percy]

I have not watched the show but it is possible that both Josh and Anna are comfort eating.  Anna can't be angry now Josh has gone to rehab and Josh has said sorry .  Josh can't have access to porn to relieve his needs so the two are possibly eating their feelings.

[season of life]

Who knows what kind of food he got at fake rehab. Now that the dirtbag is home, he can make Anna cook TTC and green bean casserole and other high calorie foods.

[LadyCrow1313]

5 hours ago, Percy said:

I have not watched the show but it is possible that both Josh and Anna are comfort eating.  Anna can't be angry now Josh has gone to rehab and Josh has said sorry .  Josh can't have access to porn to relieve his needs so the two are possibly eating their feelings.

I haven't watched the show, either, but I can completely sympathize with stress-eating (as I'm guilty of that myself).

That being said, though, since Anna seems to be in charge of all (or 99%) food prep, maybe she's deliberately/passively feeding Prince Joshie crap food so that he deliberately gains weight. Could be the only way that she could get back at him with all the nonsense that he's put her through.

Of course, I do realize that that's stretching things a wee bit, but you never know.

[season of life]

Maybe Anna is cooking his favorite foods. Josh has always been big, except for his teenage years. I firmly believe he eats what he likes and Anna indulges him by making not so healthy meals. It's not like she was prepared to be a granola-making, fruit-obsessed homemaker.

[OrchidBlossom]

10 hours ago, season of life said:

Maybe Anna is cooking his favorite foods. Josh has always been big, except for his teenage years. I firmly believe he eats what he likes and Anna indulges him by making not so healthy meals. It's not like she was prepared to be a granola-making, fruit-obsessed homemaker.

It would make sense to me that in an attempt to appease him and keep him faithful she started making all his faves. It would be sad, but the logic is vaguely there.

[ButternutSquash]

On 2016-10-11 at 7:57 PM, Arix said:

Filmed three months ago. Food baby.

It was the way she walked that made me think pregnancy over food baby.  It waslike she was trying to conceal her tummy.

[justmy2cents]

1 hour ago, ButternutSquash said:

It was the way she walked that made me think pregnancy over food baby.  It waslike she was trying to conceal her tummy.

I don't think they would conceal a pregnancy.  They would use it as proof of how god has mended their relationship and how they are getting to start over again.  By this point she would be far enough along where they would have to address it.

[BabyBottlePop]

On October 12, 2016 at 9:21 AM, season of life said:

Maybe Anna is cooking his favorite foods. Josh has always been big, except for his teenage years. I firmly believe he eats what he likes and Anna indulges him by making not so healthy meals. It's not like she was prepared to be a granola-making, fruit-obsessed homemaker.

This lifestyle would not be a good one for health. If you have someone who loves food too much or has an unhealthy relationship with food and they're head of the household, they could keep themselves in denial because their wives aren't supposed to say anything. 

These men are taught that God gave them right to everything. That includes food. 

[nastyhobbitses]

On 10/12/2016 at 9:12 AM, LadyCrow1313 said:

I haven't watched the show, either, but I can completely sympathize with stress-eating (as I'm guilty of that myself).

That being said, though, since Anna seems to be in charge of all (or 99%) food prep, maybe she's deliberately/passively feeding Prince Joshie crap food so that he deliberately gains weight. Could be the only way that she could get back at him with all the nonsense that he's put her through.

Of course, I do realize that that's stretching things a wee bit, but you never know.

This just reminds me of how my barista friend would very sweetly suggest the dark caramel syrup as an add-in if a customer was being a dick. His rationale was that offering a free flavor pump or three would de-escalate the situation because yay free things, but more importantly, the dark caramel syrup was basically liquid diabetes. In his words: "I make them happy, which makes my boss happy, but I also entice them into making unhealthy choices, which is my own little revenge".

[MsSourPickle]

On 10/12/2016 at 9:21 AM, season of life said:

Maybe Anna is cooking his favorite foods. Josh has always been big, except for his teenage years. I firmly believe he eats what he likes and Anna indulges him by making not so healthy meals. It's not like she was prepared to be a granola-making, fruit-obsessed homemaker.

Maybe Anna will make Josh so fat with her cooking he will drop dead of a heart attack. 

[season of life]

10 hours ago, MsSourPickle said:

Maybe Anna will make Josh so fat with her cooking he will drop dead of a heart attack. 

Now that would be one heck of a plot twist.

[Jana814]

12 hours ago, MsSourPickle said:

Maybe Anna will make Josh so fat with her cooking he will drop dead of a heart attack. 

Maybe if that happens she can get far away from his family and start a new life for herself and her children. 

[December]

On 10/13/2016 at 6:37 AM, justmy2cents said:

I don't think they would conceal a pregnancy.  They would use it as proof of how god has mended their relationship and how they are getting to start over again.  By this point she would be far enough along where they would have to address it.

Yep. They've made too big a deal out of how their way of "dealing" with Josh's actions as a teen and adult were correct; they would be capitalizing on another incoming M'kid as more "proof" their rehab worked.

17 hours ago, BabyBottlePop said:

This lifestyle would not be a good one for health. If you have someone who loves food too much or has an unhealthy relationship with food and they're head of the household, they could keep themselves in denial because their wives aren't supposed to say anything. 

These men are taught that God gave them right to everything. That includes food. 

Yeah, but I'd also wager many people would still blame the woman for her husband's eating habits because she's supposed to be the cook. I've seen it happen in far less religious circles than the Duggars... as if a guy couldn't manage to grocery shop, cook basic dishes for himself, or not hit up fast food restaurants every day for lunch. 

[alba]

Yeah, but I'd also wager many people would still blame the woman for her husband's eating habits because she's supposed to be the cook. I've seen it happen in far less religious circles than the Duggars... as if a guy couldn't manage to grocery shop, cook basic dishes for himself, or not hit up fast food restaurants every day for lunch. 

See: my atheist MIL.

She nags me to make Mr Alba eat better. He's a grown-ass man who doesn't like a lot of the food I make (I'm a vegetarian; he was traumatised by overcooked veggies at school), but his mum still seems to think I'm responsible for his diet.