Duggars adopting another baby

[sj3339sta]

I doubt this will ever happen.  It is bad BAD news in IBLP circles.  You don't know what sin that baby/child through generational sin is going to bring into your home.  

[twinmama]

11 hours ago, Gossamer1 said:

Learning disorders are no problem,  they will just pray it away! She will get all her educational needs met at the dining room table. Sheeseh, you guys make such a big deal about things. 

Ha, gotta actually be trying to learn something to even realize you have a learning disorder. They wouldn't even realize anything was up with Josie til she's like 18 and unable to sign her name on the next contract.

18 minutes ago, sj3339sta said:

I doubt this will ever happen.  It is bad BAD news in IBLP circles.  You don't know what sin that baby/child through generational sin is going to bring into your home.  

What if they like molest the siblings or cheat on their spouse?  

I will say that until they show up with an actual child in their custody, I am going to assume this is just the same old stupid publicity seeking crap as usual. And until they prove me wrong, I'll have faith in the state that they won't give a child to the Duggars and that all young pregnant fundies know better as well.

[Catey]

Of course because science would explain genetics, better we go with Generational curses. That seems way more likely.

[Pixiedust1960]

It will be interesting to see what happens with this.

[sj3339sta]

9 minutes ago, twinmama said:

What if they like molest the siblings or cheat on their spouse?  

I will say that until they show up with an actual child in their custody, I am going to assume this is just the same old stupid publicity seeking crap as usual. And until they prove me wrong, I'll have faith in the state that they won't give a child to the Duggars and that all young pregnant fundies know better as well.

There is probably truth to this and part of the reason Josh has been sent away for so long.  Gotta protect the littles from daddy's sin.

[pamplemousse]

I so hope this is a rumor and nothing more. Boob and J'Uterus aren't fit to adopt a baby doll, much less a real baby.

[goldfishgoddess]

Michelle needs to go to Procreators Anonymous or something like that.  When she and Boob went to a fertility specialist after they lost Jubilee, I just couldn't believe it.  While the babies are coming fast and furious, they're God's gifts.  When she has trouble conceiving and has a miscarriage, she doesn't think that maybe God is trying to tell her she's over the hill???

 

 

[sj3339sta]

2 minutes ago, goldfishgoddess said:

Michelle needs to go to Procreators Anonymous or something like that.  When she and Boob went to a fertility specialist after they lost Jubilee, I just couldn't believe it.  While the babies are coming fast and furious, they're God's gifts.  When she has trouble conceiving and has a miscarriage, she doesn't think that maybe God is trying to tell her she's over the hill???

 

 

That's the part I have never understood about "quiverful."  So, by not using birth control, you are leaving the number of children you have up to God.  However, you are going to take meticulous notes on each and every cycle, and "try" to have more children to the point of seeing specialist.  IME, that's not trusting God to take the lead on this.  

More hypocrisy for 800 please.....

[JenniferJuniper]

Suggest a ? at the end of this topic heading.

I don't think it would actually happen. Michelle only likes the incubating, birthing and breastfeeding bits.  Precious B. aside, she's barely interested in the young kids she has now and losing her tagline "And I gave birth to every one of them!" would be a blow to her ego.  

They definitely want attention once the Not So Special episodes are over, attention that doesn't involve Josh in any way.  So while I suspect they'll be doing and saying whatever they can to stay in the news on the internets, I don't seem them actually getting to the point of adopting someone else's child.

[MarblesMom]

6 hours ago, OnceUponATime said:

My speculation in that case would be a grandchild via the eldest son not via a daughter.
 

Now HERE is a thought.... one of Joshley's sex playmates went to JimBoob and said "I am pregnant with Josh's baby" and this is how they handle it.  It's a Christmas miracle!

 

[Imagine20]

Children are not props and adoption shouldn't be used to get positive press. The Duggars even discussing adoption sends shivers down my spine.  Remember the AR state Rep who "rehomed" his two adopted daughters? (I really dislike how the media used that word.) He was happy to put them on the family Christmas card, but once the fact that they had special emotional needs became evident the couple just handed them off to a monster.

[JenniferJuniper]

17 minutes ago, MarblesMom said:

Now HERE is a thought.... one of Joshley's sex playmates went to JimBoob and said "I am pregnant with Josh's baby" and this is how they handle it.  It's a Christmas miracle!

 

A Very Special Precious Blessing.

Oh, the controversy.  Will it have an M name or a J name? 

[goldfishgoddess]

1 minute ago, Imagine20 said:

Children are not props and adoption shouldn't be used to get positive press. The Duggars even discussing adoption sends shivers down my spine.  Remember the AR state Rep who "rehomed" his two adopted daughters? (I really dislike how the media used that word.) He was happy to put them on the family Christmas card, but once the fact that they had special emotional needs became evident the couple just handed them off to a monster.

I have a big enough problem with people who "rehome" their dogs.

[MarblesMom]

1 minute ago, goldfishgoddess said:

I have a big enough problem with people who "rehome" their dogs.

ME TOO.

Yeah, the CL ads - "we are moving and cannot take the dog" or some such BS.  How about moving and not having room for your TV?  Your spouse?  WTH, put them on CL too, you self-important asswipe.  (The CL listers, not anyone here.)

Sorry, I had to vent.

[EmCatlyn]

8 hours ago, xlurker said:

I was more thinking that some fundie girl got herself "in trouble" and the Duggar's are going to help solve the problem--everyone prayed on it and they have decided this is the way to go.  Pure speculation though....

Just for fun, let's suppose that the child they might adopt is the result of He Who Shall Not Be Named's adventures.  I mean, we know he was casting his seed somewhat wider than he was supposed to.

[Gossamer1]

13 minutes ago, MarblesMom said:

ME TOO.

Yeah, the CL ads - "we are moving and cannot take the dog" or some such BS.  How about moving and not having room for your TV?  Your spouse?  WTH, put them on CL too, you self-important asswipe.  (The CL listers, not anyone here.)

Sorry, I had to vent.

I fostered for a Saint Bernard rescue group. Do you know how many people surrendered their SAINT BERNARDS because they got too big?! Fucking morons.  

[EmCatlyn]

22 minutes ago, MarblesMom said:

ME TOO.

Yeah, the CL ads - "we are moving and cannot take the dog" or some such BS.  How about moving and not having room for your TV?  Your spouse?  WTH, put them on CL too, you self-important asswipe.  (The CL listers, not anyone here.)

Sorry, I had to vent.

Granted that some people just don't take their responsibilities to their pets seriously, I have to say that I also know of cases where the family really couldn't take the pet.  In one case, the neighbors of a good friend lost their house and had to move to an apartment complex where no pets were allowed.  Another case involved a former student ended up homeless after she broke up with her boyfriend.  Her parents took her in, but wouldn't let her bring the dog, so this one was rehomed through Craigslist.  People like these are not being selfish.

 

[FJismyheadship]

24 minutes ago, MarblesMom said:

ME TOO.

Yeah, the CL ads - "we are moving and cannot take the dog" or some such BS.  How about moving and not having room for your TV?  Your spouse?  WTH, put them on CL too, you self-important asswipe.  (The CL listers, not anyone here.)

Sorry, I had to vent.

 

I had to leave the house I was living in earlier this year and couldn't take my cat. So I sent her to live with My cousin until I got back on my feet. I hate when people rehome for "I'm having a baby" "I'm moving and can't take them"

Figure something out!

[Nikedagain?]

8 hours ago, Mercer said:

I agree. At some point the person has to be realistic about what someone can expect to receive in a single lifetime. Michelle and Jim Bob are not empty nesters. They currently have ten minor children in the home - many more than most people will ever have total - and supposedly these children are home-educated. They also have six grandchildren to lavish attention on. I'm sure there are plenty of volunteer opportunities in their community to help children in need. There is no reason for them to be bored or lonely, or for them to act like they no longer have children in their life just because Michelle's fertile years are probably behind her.

At some point, the season of life naturally changes. This can be hard to accept, but it needs to be accepted. Children do not stay young forever, and simply adding more of them to prolong that stage of life can only last so long. Michelle and Jim Bob need to come to terms with that.

Adopting a baby now would not change the basic fact that it can't go on forever, and there's eventually an end point where their identity will have to shift from "and counting" and acquisition to contentment with the family they have.

 Absolutely! I don't know too much about their friends/frenemies/??  the Holts, but apparently they just had a new baby in the last few days. The mom did not publicize the pregnancy because of her age...

I'm just gonna leave that one right there. 

[EmCatlyn]

2 hours ago, goldfishgoddess said:

Michelle needs to go to Procreators Anonymous or something like that.  When she and Boob went to a fertility specialist after they lost Jubilee, I just couldn't believe it.  While the babies are coming fast and furious, they're God's gifts.  When she has trouble conceiving and has a miscarriage, she doesn't think that maybe God is trying to tell her she's over the hill???

I feel sorry for Michelle.  Not for one instance do I think that she should have another child in her grasp, but her life must really suck right now.  Talk about adoption shows her desperation.

Yes, it is too bad there isn't a program or support group for someone like her.  No one likes menopause but in her case it is more like forced retirement.   Raising kids was not her real "job."  It was birthing them that made her special.

To paraphrase: "Anyone else can change the diapers and rock the babies to sleep, but only Michelle can birth them."

So the adoption idea is not going to fix things for them.  She

 

 

 

 

 

doesn't want someone else's child to raise.  The problem is that she is not ready to let go of the "family that is always growing."  She wants something to bring back the magic of being admired for having so many children. 

And maybe thinking about adopting is a way of casting herself again in the "young mother" role.  At a time when confronting the way her first born has failed to live up to the family standards, and when her daughters are now the young mothers, Michelle may feel that adopting will give her another chance.

But, as others mentioned up thread, she has already had more chances than most people.  She still has kids under 12 in the house, and she really ought to get into the grandmother role.  It seems unusually hard for her.  

[patsymae]

I replied without thinking of what other posters have said about this just being a way to get them in the news for something non scandal-related, which makes sense, and also seems to have worked.

Plus I forgot that they've just been in the news for being part of the "5 Day Adoption" film"

"Five days after prayerfully beginning the adoption process, the McCoskeys welcomed their newborn daughter Christina into their family.

A network of Christians around the country, including Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, came alongside Todd and Barbara to make this adoption possible."

Buy used and save the difference?

[Bad Wolf]

3 hours ago, goldfishgoddess said:

I have a big enough problem with people who "rehome" their dogs.

[mebeforee]

The Duggars kept using J-names because they were concerned if they used another letter and it turned out to be the last child, they'd feel left out. The family prioritizes sameness to an unhealthy degree. How singled out would the only adopted child feel? Especially considering that no reputable adoption agency would adopt to them, and they'd have to go through skeevy fundie adoptions from foreign countries, where the families sometimes don't even understand that their child will be taken forever.

They could get a baby if they really want to, from what I've read some of these faith-oriented 'adoption' (child-purchasing) groups are actually serious problems in some developing countries. Which means the Duggars could probably find out how to get their hooks in a baby from abroad. But IBLP really discourages adoption and somehow I can't imagine the Duggars marring their 'perfect' matching family with a conspicuously foreign member who might have special needs or be old enough to insist on being called by their birth name.

[patsymae]

Wasn't there an episode where they entertained their "friends" who had like a zillion special needs kids adopted from overseas? 
And as another poster noted, there always seem to be random people around the Duggar house. Who would notice one more? Certainly not the "parents."

[mebeforee]

I remember one or two families that appeared on the show who had adopted children, but I don't remember anything about them, I'd have to go back and watch episodes again and I've fallen asleep every time I've attempted that in the past couple of weeks (I thought we'd hear from Anna on Sunday and I wanted to see some of the episodes with Josh and Anna's courtship beforehand, but I never got that far. From the beginning, nothing happened in that show.)

But yeah, they've shown a few families that the Duggars give a little lip service to but nobody who actually seems close to the family. I think they like the idea but not enough that they'd go through the actual process (I'm sure they wonder why someone won't just GIVE them a baby), even if they didn't follow 'spiritual leader's who preach that children are cursed by the sins of their parents.