Lori Alexander - Still Not Learning A Thing, Part 3

[CrazyCatLady]

So if Ken says something is right then that's it? She has to agree?

What if Ken decides the family will start celebrating Hitler's birthday? Does that alone make it right?

[Koala]

So if Ken says something is right then that's it? She has to agree?

What if Ken decides the family will start celebrating Hitler's birthday? Does that alone make it right?

Someone asked about that:

So my question is if one's husband leads his wife to do something that she considers sinful and against God, should she submit and do it?

Lori:

Yes, since he doesn't consider this sinful and against God as many others Christians agree with him and even our Pastor exhorts the congregation to go out and be lights in our neighborhood to a lost and dying generation during this holiday. Many women have a problem with feeling spiritually superior to their husbands and this is one area where they may be wrong, just as I was wrong. Now, if he asks her to have an abortion, commit murder, steal from a bank, etc. then she can disobey him but if you give a way out for this holiday you open a wide door for wives to disobey their husbands in many things they feel are sinful and against God's ways: homeschooling, working outside of the home, tithing, etc. Since the children are his children also and he is the leader of the home, he gets to decide how to lead the home in this area. At least, this is how I would mentor women.

[FJismyheadship]

File Under: When readers make Lori look totally rational :shock:

Lori replied

Lori Alexander · 1 hour ago

That may scare the children more than the costumes! I think just giving them a tract with a warm hello and smile would be more effective

Lori definitely sounds more rational.

[nastyhobbitses]

File Under: When readers make Lori look totally rational :shock:

The kids I grew up with would be finding ways to troll this house as much as possible on Halloween.

[usmcmom]

The comments on that Halloween post are quite interesting. I think Ken and Lori will stay up all night to avoid be out-Christianed by their readers, because some of those commenters are making some very good points regarding their own opinions.

The thing that gets me is that Lori and Ken are taking so much time asking the Non-Halloweeners to give others grace when it comes to differing beliefs. I'd like to know when Ken and Lori have EVER offered grace to one of their readers who had a differing view on any other topic.

Anyone?!?

[Hisey]

The kids I grew up with would be finding ways to troll this house as much as possible on Halloween.

This person is not real! Click through to her blog. She is pretending to be Jinger Duggar.

Lori fell for it, though.

thatonejgirl.blogspot.com/

[Hisey]

This person is not real! Click through to her blog. She is pretending to be Jinger Duggar.

Lori fell for it, though.

thatonejgirl.blogspot.com/

Oops, sorry, I see you guys know that already.

[Curious]

Lori:

... We thought that was very good advice so we went home and broke the news to Alyssa. {We have it on video and it is quite funny.}

She recounted the same story on Facebook:

When our oldest 2 were 3 and 5, our pastor preached a sermon and said that celebrating Christmas was great, just get rid of Santa Claus and have the holiday centered around Jesus instead. We went home and told our 2 there was no Santa. We have it on tape and it is hysterical! They were very upset ...

I find it very sad and quite telling that Lori thinks ruining her children's enjoyment of Santa and their unsurprising reaction to such news to be "quite funny" and "hysterical."

I was sad when my kids figured out there was no Santa or Easter Bunny. I didn't take some perverse pleasure in ruining the "magic" of those figures from them and making them upset.

Lori reminds me so much of Kate Gosselin when she talks about her kids. Kate is the only other person I've really seen take absolute pleasure and be gleeful about making her kids uncomfortable or unhappy.

That's NOT normal behavior for a parent. Kate was also a big fan of long ass afternoon naps, another thing she and Lori have in common.

[Curious]

File Under: When readers make Lori look totally rational :shock:

I'm surprised these people still get trick or treaters if they have that kind of reaction.

We don't particularly like trick or treaters because it makes our dogs very upset, so we turn out the lights in the front of the house and magically we get no trick or treaters.

If I didn't like the holiday for religious reasons, I would do the same thing. Not try to send kids into therapy because they happened to come to my house on a day known for small children coming to your house for candy.

TL;DR: Turn off your lights if you don't want trick or treaters, crazy people

[Hisey]

She recounted the same story on Facebook:

I find it very sad and quite telling that Lori thinks ruining her children's enjoyment of Santa and their unsurprising reaction to such news to be "quite funny" and "hysterical."

I know. And they videotaped it!

I was sad when my kids figured out there was no Santa or Easter Bunny. I didn't take some perverse pleasure in ruining the "magic" of those figures from them and making them upset.

Lori reminds me so much of Kate Gosselin when she talks about her kids. Kate is the only other person I've really seen take absolute pleasure and be gleeful about making her kids uncomfortable or unhappy.

That's NOT normal behavior for a parent. Kate was also a big fan of long ass afternoon naps, another thing she and Lori have in common.

I know. And they videotaped it. How did that conversation go?

Lori: That was a great sermon about the evils of Santa Claus.

Ken: I know. I'm glad I decided there will be no more Santa at our house. Let's go home and tell the kids.

Lori: They're going to be really upset.

Ken: [chuckling] I know. Remember last year, when they were 4 and 2? They loved Santa! This is going to really make them sad.

Lori: [thinking] Hey! Let's videotape it. You break the news to them, and I'll capture it for posterity. I'll bet they'll be crying up a storm.

Ken: Great idea, Lori! That should be hysterical. Can't you see it? "There's no Santa, kids!" "Wahhhhhhh, Daddy, no!"

Lori: I'll get the camcorder. We can show it to my folks afterwards. Ha, ha!

Ken: This will be fun. Let me get Ryan out of his crib, and you get Alyssa up from her nap. Then you start the camcorder and I'll tell them the [chuckle] bad news.

[Koala]

The thing that gets me is that Lori and Ken are taking so much time asking the Non-Halloweeners to give others grace when it comes to differing beliefs. I'd like to know when Ken and Lori have EVER offered grace to one of their readers who had a differing view on any other topic.

Anyone?!?

One of her readers pointed that out when Lori started pearl clutching over pretty much everyone daring to disagree with her. Lori was explaining how sad God was that they were all disagreeing with her (paraphrase) and Shiloh pointed out that Lori had never shied away from disagreeing with others before. (Usually, the shoes just on the other foot- The Godly Mentor is used to being the holy one, looking down her nose at others, not visa versa).

Anyway, those comments have now been deleted, but Lori did chime back in to say the following:

To be truthful with all of you, I am very disheartened with the comments from this post

I have chosen to give grace to those who disagree with me

We must allow others their opinions and leave it at that instead of join forces to oppose others on matters of conscience.

We are called to love each other deeply, not get offended easily and allow others to have the Lord convict them instead of forcing our views upon them.

I have learned to not be so dogmatic on issues such as these in my older age.

L.O.L :roll:

[salex]

It strikes me that Lori and Ken have warm memories about the very few things they did together as a couple-- taking turns whacking a child over spilled raisans and telling their very young children there was no santa in an abrupt and harsh way. Oh the joy and laughter they get recalling those moments where they shared such precious time as a couple. '

I was gently led into the "Santa is a game" when I was very young, because my parents had mixed feelings about it. There are plenty of ways to ease even very young children into understanding the spirit of giving aka Santa is an echo of the gift of Jesus from God. But that would take too much time and compassion for the Alexanders to muster, especially when they could video themselves being cruel to their kids so they could relive that special moment.

Lori Alexander is a Monster. Ken Alexander is a misogynistic douche canoe.

Thank goodness my parents were nothing like them.

[julie paradox]

Re the apparent contradictions on school and bible studies:

For the bible groups I'm pretty certain that Lori just means she can't remember the discussions they were supposed to be having. She doesn't remember any bible study talk because all she associates with those groups is the chat about husbands. Fair enough (after all this is Lori. She doesn't understand half of what goes on in Actual Proper biblical exegesis and she loves to badmouth her husband).

Re school, and "there was no misbehaviour and I got teased and a boy molested me" - well, that's a bit deeper.

I think Lori is viewing Discipline And Behaviour In School in terms of how much the kids sat still during lessons and did as they were told. From a Discipline point of view, what the little girls actually say to each other is irrelevant so long as they're saying it at break times.

I like to think that if anyone had noticed a boy poking his pencil at Lori's "private parts" (I'm assuming she had her clothes on, because - well, otherwise there's a whole lot more to the story) he'd have been told off. Presumably it was a short incident that didn't disrupt the learning environment of the classroom; so it wasn't a School Discipline thing, it was part of Kids Annoying Each Other without being noticed.

[This is difficult for me to express, as my opinion on the whole thing is very different from Lori's.]

{I'm reminded of a time when our older child was pre-verbal. Headship said (in the course of conversation leading naturally up to it) "I don't mind what he does, so long as he's polite!"

Now, having calmed down somewhat in the intervening 15 years, I can see what he was attempting to say. But at the time I was gobsmacked. When I managed to find speech I asked if he'd be ok with child lying, stealing, cheating, raping..... well, OBVIOUSLY not this is a stupid question of course that wasn't what I meant...}

[polecat]

Lori in a nutshell: It was HIGHlarious!!!!! to break our toddler's heart by telling her Santa was a fraud. We laughed and laughed AND we got it on tape so that we can continue to LAUGH AND LAUGH.

One time for funsies, we took turns beating her over some spilled raisins, but we forgot to record that. I haz a sadz about it.

[lizzybee]

Lori in a nutshell: It was HIGHlarious!!!!! to break our toddler's heart by telling her Santa was a fraud. We laughed and laughed AND we got it on tape so that we can continue to LAUGH AND LAUGH.

One time for funsies, we took turns beating her over some spilled raisins, but we forgot to record that. I haz a sadz about it.

:lol: :lol: But really, though. :?

[iweartanktops]

This morning Lori posted on, "A Godly Woman is a Keeper of Her Home"

A couple of paragraphs stood out to me:

"I can't imagine any woman coming to the conclusion that spending her time, talents and energy shouldn't be spent on disciplining and training her children; being a help meet to her husband; keeping her home neat and tidy and preparing nourishing food for her family. I don't see how a woman can have a job outside of the home and attend to all of these important tasks at the same time without shortchanging any of them."

Bolding is mine- of course she can only think of discipline and training! Why not enjoy your children?! Ugh.

And this next one made me laugh!

Don't marry a lazy, self-indulgent woman of leisure. Look for a girl who is multi-faceted, capable and industrious- one who isn't marrying you for your money. Make sure she has a serving, compassionate spirit and isn't afraid to get her hands dirty. And make sure she's the kind of woman who'll make her God, husband, kids and home a priority!*

 

[AmazonGrace]

I realize that some women have no choice but to work; either their husband insists upon it, they are single mothers or their husband is disabled. Like I have written before, Paul writes in two of these circumstances that other family members and/or the church should provide for the women who have no husband to provide so they can be at home raising their children but many don't have this need filled so they must work. I encourage you to continue to pray about it and then leave it in the Lord's hands to work it out for with God ALL things are possible!

Oh FGS... Pray, and beg, and maybe somebody who works will take pity on your kids and support them so you don't have to earn a living... What's the verse in the Bible that says we should be grifters?

[polecat]

Oh FGS... Pray, and beg, and maybe somebody who works will take pity on your kids and support them so you don't have to earn a living... What's the verse in the Bible that says we should be grifters?

Lori goes to a mega-church, doesn't she? I wonder how many single mothers and widows her church supports full-time. Ken, since I'm assuming you still occasionally read here, could you pull some statistics out of your backside for us?

[AmazonGrace]

How many single mothers and widows Lori and Ken are supporting?

[Koala]

She's back on Halloween again. It was a given. She always makes a second post when she gets a lot of push back from her readers.

Lori:

Therefore, I believe the question I need to be asking women is not "Do you celebrate Halloween?" but "Does your husband want your children to celebrate Halloween?" since they are the head of the home! One woman asked me if a wife should obey if she believes something is evil and against God's ways. Yes, if it is abortion, murdering someone, robbing a bank, or watching pornography with him but not dressing up your children as cowboys and princesses and going from house to house saying "Trick-or-Treat."

Teacher Lori may not realize it, but what she just said was: "obey your husband if he tells you to get an abortion, commit murder, rob a bank, or watch porn, just as long as your don't take your kids trick or treating". :doh: (yes, I know that's not what she meant, but it's exactly what she said.

Which brings me to my second point- where is Lori's scriptural backing for her above admonishment?? Where in the Bible does it say to obey your husband if he tells your to steal in one way (let's say, oh I don't know....cheating on your taxes. Looking at you Ken :dance: ), but to disobey if he tells you to rob a bank?

Lori:

{From the last post I wrote about Halloween, I know many of you believe it is evil for a Christian to celebrate Halloween and I respect your view, but I don't intend for this post to be a discussion on the merits of Halloween. If you're undecided about celebrating Halloween, please go back to that post and read all the comments in the comment section. Thank you!}

Translation:

Please don't cite scripture for why your don't celebrate Halloween, because I don't want to hear it.

If you want to read the ramblings of people who don't celebrate Halloween go read the last post....where I deleted a shitload of comments.

:roll:

[salex]

{From the last post I wrote about Halloween women working outside the home and egalitarian marriages, I know many of you believe it is evil acceptable for a Christian to celebrate Halloween have marriages like that and I respect your view, but I don't intend for this post to be a discussion on the merits of Halloween equality in the marriage. If you're undecided about celebrating Halloween how to run your marriage, please go back to that post and read all the comments in the comment section. Thank you!}

Boils down to Lori is right and has no intention of defending her view, even if you can quote more verses from the Bible, her mind is made up, no matter what the topic.

"My nanny is the only moral nanny"

[Florita]

Classic passive-aggressive Lori. Lori believes Halloween is pure evil - she did the research back in college so she knows. Ken likes Halloween and wants to celebrate it and their pastor backs him up. Her submissive hands are tied. With Halloween just a few weeks away Lori is afraid she is going to be forced to pass out candy just like the heathens. She will appear to be just like everyone else and not the Most Religious Queen of the Neighborhood.

But wait! She can blog about it and explain she is being forced to celebrate pagan rituals by Ken and everyone (including Ken) will see that she really is the victim here and then Ken will relent and she can stay smugly inside with her porch light off and nose in the air watching wholesome love stories on Hallmark.

Will her plan work or will Ken dig his stubborn heels in? Stay tuned...

BTW I'm rooting for Ken this time.

[salex]

Classic passive-aggressive Lori. Lori believes Halloween is pure evil - she did the research back in college so she knows. Ken likes Halloween and wants to celebrate it and their pastor backs him up. Her submissive hands are tied. With Halloween just a few weeks away Lori is afraid she is going to be forced to pass out candy just like the heathens. She will appear to be just like everyone else and not the Most Religious Queen of the Neighborhood.

But wait! She can blog about it and explain she is being forced to celebrate pagan rituals by Ken and everyone (including Ken) will see that she really is the victim here and then Ken will relent and she can stay smugly inside with her porch light off and nose in the air watching wholesome love stories on Hallmark.

Will her plan work or will Ken dig his stubborn heels in? Stay tuned...

BTW I'm rooting for Ken this time.

IF Ken prevails, I suspect we can anticipate a severe headache or other health relapse sending her to her bed or even the hospital.

[Koala]

But wait! She can blog about it and explain she is being forced to celebrate pagan rituals by Ken and everyone (including Ken) will see that she really is the victim here and then Ken will relent and she can stay smugly inside with her porch light off and nose in the air watching wholesome love stories on Hallmark.

Will her plan work or will Ken dig his stubborn heels in? Stay tuned...

BTW I'm rooting for Ken this time.

In one of her deleted comments from the original Halloween post, she said that due to her health she won't be handing out candy this year.

[AmazonGrace]

I picture God going "*SMH*, you people, do I have to decide EVERYTHING for you... I have births to attend to and deaths to arrange and bereaved people to comfort and three species of beetles are going extinct right this second... I just don't CARE if you dress up and give kids candy or not..."