Josh Duggar Checks into Rehab

[Deist woman]

OK so if he goes into Reformers Unanimous as a residential rehab, it's for six months.

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In six months, Joshley will become the vessel that God intended.

The Reformers Unanimous Schools of Discipleship is a six month intensive discipleship programs for men and women with addictions. They provide a reconstructive learning atmosphere where the addicted can be discipled in an environment that is much like a greenhouse. The addict is protected from the elements of life as they become grounded, rooted and begin to grow and mature. Their residential treatment homes that are intended for the “non-functioning†addict can effectively minister to up to 100 men and 40 ladies. Visit the website to find out more about this life changing discipleship program, and download an application today.

Discipleship Homes

We believe true addiction treatment begins with discipleship. At the Paul Allen Kingsbury School for Men, we house, train, develop, and disciple nearly 100 persons every six months to live the crucified Christian life. This life will grant all of mankind freedom from the penalty of sin, as well as provide them with the relationship with Christ necessary to enjoy their freedom from the power of sin.

Fundie women can have sexual addiction? I thought they were just sluts and Jezebels.

[Handmaiden of Dog]

The only people that could make him go are the parents or himself, Anna doesn't have that kind of power over him. So either Josh is going because he felt this will really do him good and put his life back on track or because JB threatened to cut him off forever. If he is there because of threats, I don't see how this is going to do him any good at all, he will come out exactly the same way he went in. However, if he checked himself in with good intentions then perhaps it might do him some good. I realize this is a bullshit place but if Josh believes the bullshit then praying and focusing on how he fucked up might help him see clearly what he needs to do. Who knows? He might even come out with a plan for the future which includes divorcing Anna and getting a real education.

The important thing is Josh will be out of the limelight. He will have time to really think and figure out what he wants to do with the rest of his life.

Sadly I believe that JB gave him an ultimatum and Josh is just doing this because it is the only way to keep the Duggar Family Trust money flowing. In which case Josh may only be biding his time until he can come out and pretend to be a good father again while chasing women behind Anna's back.

[doggie]

so they learn to be free from suffering from their sins? well thats pretty cool now isn't it?

[Buzzard]

How long until the Duggars post something/take up a collection for "love offerings" for Anna and M'kids? With smuggles out of the house Anna is (theoretically) all alone raising 4 littles all by her female loneship. In reality we all know that Jana and likely Jinger have moved into a bedroom while JD and the howlers redo the rest of the house... but on paper its just poor Anna.

This rehab is bullshit. He's only going to get away from the media (and the future bombshells). He will come out more pompous than before, if thats even possible.

[vspielman]

I drove by the place this morning. It's nondescript - you wouldn't know it was a treatment facility by just looking at it. Now what I am wondering is this: it's connected to a local church here, although I think they are just using the church ground/big building. I wonder if these men are allowed to attend this church on Sundays, or is this all strictly in-house? I honestly don't know.

[socalrules]

I saw the video clip on their site.

So Josh will stay in a college dormitory with a lucky roommate. He will have a daily walk with the Lord and spend a minimum of an hour a day courting Him. Attend a lot of church services. Doing some bible memorization, then some bible meditation. Scribble down some holy words on a note, give it to someone and be a blessing to them. He'll be fed, with food too. And he'll work, like he did reconstruction to wash away his molestation sin. This will bring him Closer To The Lord and the addiction will no longer be a plague. The transformation is "nothing short of a mircale."

Then he's cured. :liar:

Edit to add resource: I saw it on the RU web site, but it can be seen on youtube too: youtube.com/watch?t=18&v=hiMJH4Qlhxs

Sounds like a regular day in the life of the Maxwells.

Does anyone really believe Josh will stick it out in inpatient "treatment" for six months? I don't. If there was ever a chance I have some balls and live your life on your terms only, this is it. Life can't get worse than it already is.

[Galbin]

[quote="Exposedknees"

They tried to make me go to rehab

I said, "no, no, no"

Yes, I been black

But when I come back, you'll know, know, know

I ain't got the time

And if my daddy thinks I'm fine

He's tried to make me go to rehab

I won't go, go, go -

[NerdyHil]

I just can't stop humming this in my head.

They tried to make me go to rehab

I said, "no, no, no"

Yes, I been black

But when I come back, you'll know, know, know

I ain't got the time

And if my daddy thinks I'm fine

He's tried to make me go to rehab

I won't go, go, go

- Amy Winehouse -

The version that popped into my head was :They tried to make me go to rehab/ I said "Yeah, okay. That means I don't have to really deal with the fallout of my actions, and with Jeebus magic I'll be forgiven JUST LIKE LAST TIME" :pull-hair:

My deepest apologies to Ms. Winehouse.

[BarrelOfJays]

Bullshit!! a year from now, this family is going to be richer and more popular than ever. This will be their ultimate testimony. Everyone will be leghumping all over themselves to swoon about how much closer to God and each other this has made the Duggars. This example will only serve to strengthen their warped lives, not topple them as I had (shamefully) hoped. I feel at this "Rehab", Josh will get a upgrade on his programming. And so will be Anna. For surely during this time, her "trainers" will rally around and isolate her even further. She won't be permitted a single thought that may go against total submission and loyalty. :angry-screaming: :pull-hair:

[vspielman]

Annnnnnnnnnddddddddd our local social media has now gotten hold of the story - BAHAHAHAH!!!! :twisted: :twisted:

[chelleinchicago]

How long until the Duggars post something/take up a collection for "love offerings" for Anna and M'kids? With smuggles out of the house Anna is (theoretically) all alone raising 4 littles all by her female loneship. In reality we all know that Jana and likely Jinger have moved into a bedroom while JD and the howlers redo the rest of the house... but on paper its just poor Anna.

This rehab is bullshit. He's only going to get away from the media (and the future bombshells). He will come out more pompous than before, if thats even possible.

I doubt I'm the only one here who knows someone who''s come out of rehab/AA a newly minted expert on everything. Not everyone. I don't want to give that impression AT ALL because I have other acquaintances who aren't that way. Josh is not someone predisposed to humility so I agree, this could well turn him into an even bigger ass than before.

We have a dear friend who teaches part time at a major university in Los Angeles while maintaining a full time therapy practice. The last time we were there I'd just read Going Clear so I was asking him about Scientology. He told me that some of the saddest, most difficult cases he's dealt with are gay kids who've been sent to Pray the Gay Away camps/rehabs, with ex-Scientologists and Fundie Rehab of any kind coming in second. I'm sure there are other horrific things but we were speaking about the effects of religion. The damage they do is criminal, but when it's a case like Josh I'd guess it's more likely they just compound any issues the person is dealing with. Whatever is suppressed through prayer and "counsel" will be released later by Satan and a good internet connection.

I also tend to agree with the notion that his problems are based less in sex and porn and more in deception. He's stuck between the self-righteousness of his religious beliefs and the reality of his desires. If he weren't a fundie he could find a friend in ambiguity till he figures it all out, but he's set his cap on Jesus. Or rather, Jim Bob has pulled that sucker straight down over his head.

[Rachel333]

Yesterday I watched an episode of the US show "Living With the Enemy" where they paired a porn actress with a man who is an anti-porn activist. (It was interesting, since I neither fully agreed nor disagreed with either one.) He has a story of porn and sex addiction ruining his life, and he has turned that into a new career.

I don't want to minimize that man's experience, especially the abuse he suffered as a boy, but my first thought was that this is Josh's future. I really can't imagine what else he can do.

(By the way, I just looked up that man, Craig Perra, and saw that he had retweeted the news about Josh going to rehab. They both like being on tv, so I wonder if there could be a collaboration in the future.)

[chelleinchicago]

Our FJ sleuths in the Duggar Aviation thread called this one over a day ago. Good job!

people.com/article/josh-duggar-checks-into-rehab-ashley-madison-scandal

Based upon the 8 minutes JD's plane was on the ground, I have a feeling there were no long, teary goodbyes. Probably just shoved Josh and his suitcase out on the tarmac and took off.

Kudos to chelleinchicago: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=23078&p=1013898&hilit=reformers+unanimous#p1013898

Thanks so much! I wouldn't have remembered Rockford if it wasn't for the flight plan info, so it was a group effort. :group-hug:

[isarhenne]

Bullshit!! a year from now, this family is going to be richer and more popular than ever. This will be their ultimate testimony. Everyone will be leghumping all over themselves to swoon about how much closer to God and each other this has made the Duggars. This example will only serve to strengthen their warped lives, not topple them as I had (shamefully) hoped. I feel at this "Rehab", Josh will get a upgrade on his programming. And so will be Anna. For surely during this time, her "trainers" will rally around and isolate her even further. She won't be permitted a single thought that may go against total submission and loyalty. :angry-screaming: :pull-hair:

Agreed! I think this will be the outcome of it all. Josh will be more popular than ever in these cirlces. Call me a cynic but I think in a few months from now he could be more able than ever to start a successfull politic career. He will write the "tell all" only to confirm his parent's believes. It will all be "rewritten" to be Anna's fault in a more or less indirect manner. And if she doesn't agree with this, it will be even more her fault. Women's lives and reputation ruined by men's mistakes. I love patriarchic cults like this.

Josh ruined Anna's live and the lives of the girls he molested. but he will be the one coming out as the hero in all of this whereas the girls and women will be out of the spotlight in notime. congrats joshua duggar. you are THE MAN!

[rosastrohhut]

Hahaha. This story keeps getting "better" every 12hrs. What's next?

And why is Josh allowed to be away from the trouble he caused and poor Anna will be confronted with it everytime she goes to the supermarket. She should get some long term holiday and time for herself. Maybe a resort with a daycare for the two older children and a sand pit and all inclusive services as well as a spa (a bubble footbath should be considered modest and will relax her).

Once in a lifetime not buying used (you can still get great deals on holidays though).

She can still read her bible instead of a juicy novel.

[shard1118]

WTF does "crucified Christian life" mean??? :?

"This life will grant all of mankind freedom from the penalty of sin, as well as provide them with the relationship with Christ necessary to enjoy their freedom from the power of sin".... They must have a hot-line to God... It's so pompous/ conceited/vain :naughty: to presume that if there really is a "Lord" that they are speaking for him...

[louisa05]

Josh will come out of rehab in six months a "new man". There will be a book with he and Anna both listed as authors which will be all about how to biblically save your marriage. Number five will also be conceived in short order and they will depart from M names in order to give him or her some name that they will claim means "redeemed" whether it really does or not.

And all the fundy leghumpers will consider the Duggars great Christian heroes again.

[Daenerys]

Josh will come out of rehab in six months a "new man". There will be a book with he and Anna both listed as authors which will be all about how to biblically save your marriage. Number five will also be conceived in short order and they will depart from M names in order to give him or her some name that they will claim means "redeemed" whether it really does or not.

And all the fundy leghumpers will consider the Duggars great Christian heroes again.

This would only work if he hadn't already abused his sisters. People are going to move on - probably to the Bates family. Oh how JB is going to seethe about that.

[helenprev]

From the RU website:

"If you arrive without a strong work ethic, you will receive one while in this program. It may be one of the most important ingredients missing in your life."

Well, that's something I suppose...

[Exposedknees]

Two things:

I think we are neglecting to think about whether Josh will make it six months. He's 27 this time, not 15. He's not being committed. There is no mental health "hold." It's not jail. He could just walk out and make a new life for himself...go on Jerry Springer or Maury, write the "tell all" and leave Anna and the M's to Duggarland.

The other thing: Duggars being the special snowflakes that they are...and so darn "FAMOUS," :ew: I wonder if there are special rules or JB mandated stipulations to Josh's rehab program? The program could get a publicity bump from having a "star" there. Josh could have special rules.

Discuss :popcorn2:

[IlseLazlo]

Can someone copy and paste the pertinent "Reformers Unanimous" information here? There was some in the Duggar Aviation thread as well as Joshley Madison, Part 4. Right now it's scattered in places that are too hard to find easily. I have to go to work. No time to do it myself right now. Thanks!

This doesn't look like it has anything to do with a certified professional addiction center. reformersministry.org/help-for-addiction/ . It looks like the founder and the others are ministers who teach people to pray away their problems.

If reading the Bible and praying all day were the cure, Josh wouldn't have a problem. He has been doing that since he could talk and read

[Cochise]

YOU ALL WHO WORKED THIS OUT ARE GREAT!

I don't know the difference between sex addiction and wanting to look at a lot of porn and have a whole lot of sex with willing, inventive, sexy partners, frankly. Maybe he's just a highly sexed person who was in a repressive situation from his teenaged years on. He's watched a lot of porn, and I don't think he'd be likely to try some of the things he saw on his wife. Maybe once he was out of his family's clutches and he was the boss man of his own home he (like many other people addicted to the internet) could shut the door of his office or his home office, saying he needed to work, and have a little one-man porn-and-Kleenex party. An awful lot of young men do look at porn; I think the majority are curious and look at a lot of porn in the process of figuring out if and when they want a long-time partner, what gender they like looking at, whether long-time or short-time partners are likely to provide what they want out of life . . .

Josh certainly seems to have gotten interested in porn, but the only route to adult sexual fulfillment was marriage, and Anna seemed to be picked out for him as an ideal candidate, from his parents' point of view: she was innocent, doesn't seem to have been argumentative, and had been raised to obey and adore a future husband. (These are all characteristics that may make it very difficult for her to say "What an asshole!" and leave, of course. There's such a thing as being psychologically crippled by your upbringing.)

Innocent, compliant, religious young women are probably not at ALL what Josh saw if he watched porn, and if he wanted an exciting and varied sex life with a tigress who liked to take it, as it were, Anna wasn't the ideal choice for the parents to make. She may have wanted a more tender hubby who cherished her. I hope she got him, at least some of the time.

Well, if they have mismatched sexual styles, whose fault is that? If only Josh hadn't been married, if only he hadn't worked for a "family values" setup, he would have been like a lot of other normal, horney young men who go to bars, date a lot, have casual sex with varied partners, and as long as all concerned were protected from STDs and weren't expecting love everlasting from Josh, he wouldn't have been doing the kind of harm he's done to his wife, kids, parents, in-laws, siblings, and siblings-in-law (much less the family brand). But he would have been fairly normal for a young dude out on his own for the first time. I wouldn't have wanted to tangle with him when I was his age, but I wouldn't have condemned him. (But then again I'm what my parents thought of as a former hippie wildchild.)

Whose fault is this whole mess? Both sets of parents, to begin with. Josh, for being unwilling to say "I really don't want to get married yet, even if the job I'm offered depends on me being married" (and I bet it did). And thereafter, the fault is all Josh's. But his parents almost literally put him in a situation that his personality and sexual needs couldn't be content with.

I don't think that any amount of therapy is going to wipe out Josh's interest in porn and in experimental sex. Does anybody hear know of anyone who has had that happen as a result of going through sex addiction therapy, though? I don't have any idea if that's possible and could be WAAAY off.

[Ralar]

I'm thinking Josh will be there the full six months, because Jim Bob is super pissed off.

On ly 6 months? Whatever Josiah's transgression was, it was surely less harmful to other people (including his sisters) than Josh's transgressions, and he was sent to Gothard Training Camp for close to a year.

[goldfishgoddess]

YOU ALL WHO WORKED THIS OUT ARE GREAT!

I don't know the difference between sex addiction and wanting to look at a lot of porn and have a whole lot of sex with willing, inventive, sexy partners, frankly. Maybe he's just a highly sexed person who was in a repressive situation from his teenaged years on.

==snip==

There has been something wrong with Josh for a very long time. From the sister molestations (one being just five years old) to his escalation to porn and risky behaviors, he is a train wreck.

And the latest on Josh's very rough/ violent sex with the porn star does not bode well for a complete recovery, when you take in the childhood molestations.

Here is info from Medicinenet regarding the prognosis with violent behaviors:

What is the prognosis of sexual addiction?

Studies show that the prognosis of sexual addictions depends on a number of factors, including the type of addiction, whether or not it involves paraphilic behaviors or, sexually violent behaviors, or if the person with the sex addiction who engages in sexually violent behaviors suffers from another mental-health diagnosis. For sexual offenders, factors that indicate a poor treatment prognosis include a higher number and more than one kind of sexual offences, having a previous criminal history, offending against boys outside their own family, low empathy for their victim, increased anger at the time of the offense, violent sexual fantasies, and attitudes that their victim enjoys it. Choosing an occupation that puts the offender in close proximity to potential victims and the use of sadomasochistic or pedophilic pornography are also associated with a worse prognosis.

[TheJewAmongUs]

The other thing: Duggars being the special snowflakes that they are...and so darn "FAMOUS," :ew: I wonder if there are special rules or JB mandated stipulations to Josh's rehab program? The program could get a publicity bump from having a "star" there. Josh could have special rules.

Discuss :popcorn2:

That's exactly how I think it will go. If the Today show calls, Josh will be hopping a plan to NYC.