Josh Duggar Checks into Rehab

[SpoonfulOSugar]

Could people posting resources please be sure to include a link (deactivated if it's to that RU site)? It's not easy to tell who is pulling what from where.

[TheJewAmongUs]

I really don't think he'll stay for 6 months. I think he'll get the standard celebrity deal which allows him to "work" (public appearances) while staying "in rehab." Maybe they'll send a counselor home with him who will go to the book signings and conference speaking engagements. And we'll start to see the counselor in Instagram pics like Jonathan Hartono

[laundry]

I saw the video clip on their site.

So Josh will stay in a college dormitory with a lucky roommate. He will have a daily walk with the Lord and spend a minimum of an hour a day courting Him. Attend a lot of church services. Doing some bible memorization, then some bible meditation. Scribble down some holy words on a note, give it to someone and be a blessing to them. He'll be fed, with food too. And he'll work, like he did reconstruction to wash away his molestation sin. This will bring him Closer To The Lord and the addiction will no longer be a plague. The transformation is "nothing short of a mircale."

Then he's cured. :liar:

Edit to add resource: I saw it on the RU web site, but it can be seen on youtube too: youtube.com/watch?t=18&v=hiMJH4Qlhxs

[sophrosyne]

Josh will be a "student." gee, now he can claim college attendance 'legitimately,' as he did on his OK Cupid account.

Interesting to see what his communication privileges will be. Aiming to avoid a long quote, I captured a few specifics pasted below (more on the RU website: ruhomes.org/communication-and-visitations)

Communications:

With the exception of legitimate emergencies, the student will be permitted their first monitored phone call no sooner than after the first 10 days of the program. This call will be to a person on the approved call list that the student establishes with the staff upon entering the home. Below is the schedule for further monitored phone calls, based on their phases in the program:

Phase 1 – One call per week – Monday night only

Phase 2 – Two calls per week – Tuesday or Thursday night only

Phase 3 – Three calls per week – Monday or Wednesday or Saturday night only

Phase 4 – Four calls per week – Any night

All long distance calls must be made using a prepaid phone card.

Phone calls will be 10 minutes in length, barring any extenuating circumstances.

Visitations:

The student’s first visit shall be after 45 days in the home. For this visit to be granted, the student must have successfully completed 1st phase and transitioned into 2nd phase. If a student incurs a disciplinary action that requires them to return to a most recently completed phase, it will cause them to lose a scheduled visit.

etc.

[LogansMama]

We believe true addiction treatment begins with discipleship. At the Paul Allen Kingsbury School for Men, we house, train, develop, and disciple nearly 100 persons every six months to live the crucified Christian life. This life will grant all of mankind freedom from the penalty of sin, as well as provide them with the relationship with Christ necessary to enjoy their freedom from the power of sin.

WTF does "crucified Christian life" mean??? :?

[goldfishgoddess]

I'm thinking Josh will be there the full six months, because Jim Bob is super pissed off.

[Rachel333]

Seriously? Josh doesn't have a sex addiction. If he did, that would just mean he and Anna would have been going at it like bunnies, because she's not allowed to say no to sex. He may be addicted to lying and hypocrisy, but there's no fundie rehab clinic that's going to help him overcome that.

I don't think that's really what sex addiction is, though...

From http://psychcentral.com/lib/what-is-sexual-addiction/:

The National Council on Sexual Addiction and Compulsivity has defined sexual addiction as “engaging in persistent and escalating patterns of sexual behavior acted out despite increasing negative consequences to self and others.†In other words, a sex addict will continue to engage in certain sexual behaviors despite facing potential health risks, financial problems, shattered relationships or even arrest.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Psychiatric Disorders, Volume Four describes sex addiction, under the category “Sexual Disorders Not Otherwise Specified,†as “distress about a pattern of repeated sexual relationships involving a succession of lovers who are experienced by the individual only as things to be used.†According to the manual, sex addiction also involves “compulsive searching for multiple partners, compulsive fixation on an unattainable partner, compulsive masturbation, compulsive love relationships and compulsive sexuality in a relationship.â€

I obviously can't diagnose Josh, and I don't even quite know I feel about the idea of a sex "addiction" (though when a behavior is destroying someone's life does it really matter if it fits the precise definition of addiction or not?), as it isn't accepted by all professionals in that field. It does sound like he has a very serious problem with sex, though, in addition to his lying and hypocrisy in general.

[Jessa's Feet]

So they send him to a place to "reset the brainwashing" until it wears off again.

It's like an appliance with faulty wiring every time you need it to work right you just slap it really hard to get it to stop acting up. Behavior modification is used when the brainwashing starts skipping.

I think the reason why they refuse to believe in any other process than the one that has failed them over and over is because to give up would mean they'd have to admit they're wrong. Regardless if they want to admit it or not, there's pride and prejudice in the way they live and for prideful people to admit they're wrong.....snowballs chance in hell.

[HereticHick]

Finally, Josh gets the college dorm life that he's been pining for! :?

[LogansMama]

There's a work program which requires 8-10 daily hours of "donated services". Looks like he's being put back to work, ladies and gentlemen.

Why do these fundies insist that good ol' elbow grease and prayin' are the cure-alls? :angry-banghead:

[TheJewAmongUs]

I saw the video clip on their site.

So Josh will stay in a college dormitory with a lucky roommate. He will have a daily walk with the Lord and spend a minimum of an hour a day courting Him. Attend a lot of church services. Doing some bible memorization, then some bible meditation. Scribble down some holy words on a note, give it to someone and be a blessing to them. He'll be fed, with food too. And he'll work, like he did reconstruction to wash away his molestation sin. This will bring him Closer To The Lord and the addiction will no longer be a plague. The transformation is "nothing short of a mircale."

Then he's cured. :liar:

Edit to add resource: I saw it on the RU web site, but it can be seen on youtube too: youtube.com/watch?t=18&v=hiMJH4Qlhxs

Him = the roommate, right? Talk about get lucky.

[Snarkangel Gabriel]

Total kudos to those here who worked this out! :worship: :worship:

Looks like Josh is off for an intense dose of the type of "treatment" which worked so well for him before. Sadly, I predict that Anna will stay with him and the only changes will be that Josh will emerge more self-righteous than ever and Madison will be deleted from the possible list of M-names.

I would love to be wrong and really wish Anna would take up her brother's offer and run.

[sophrosyne]

Finally, Josh gets the college dorm life that he's been pining for! :?

I can't wait to see the athletic contest Instagrams, once Josh has earned his phone (at what, level 18)? I guess Pistol Pete isn't the RU mascot. Maybe Neuter Nick is?

[Exposedknees]

I just can't stop humming this in my head.

They tried to make me go to rehab

I said, "no, no, no"

Yes, I been black

But when I come back, you'll know, know, know

I ain't got the time

And if my daddy thinks I'm fine

He's tried to make me go to rehab

I won't go, go, go

- Amy Winehouse -

[LogansMama]

I can't wait to see the athletic contest Instagrams, once Josh has earned his phone (at what, level 18)? I guess Pistol Pete isn't the RU mascot. Maybe Neuter Nick is?

I know you're not serious. NO way in hell is Josh getting on social media at this point...or anytime in the distant future.

[snarkopolis]

This is genius! After 6 months there he'll have forgotten his password to all his internet porn provider sites :lol: . Problem solved. Cue book and speaking tour; oh and another Mbaby.

[Jessa's Feet]

Paul Allen Kingsbury School for Men, in the Facebook descriptions of their facility, point blank says "they're not a rehab."

But don't worry, because they have higher success rates than traditional rehabs.

So congrats to the Duggars for spinning this for the public so it makes them sound like they're doing the right thing. So here's what gets me. If *you* know that it makes sense/sounds better/is the right thing to say "rehab" and that's what everyone wants to hear.....maybe, just maybe....that's where he *should* actually be. In a rehab facility. If it sounds bad and the rest of the public would balk at "behavior modification" type facility, maybe that's a red flag.

If you're to afraid to say what you really mean, then maybe that's a red flag as to what you're doing wrong.

[Imrlgoddess]

My only question is: who's paying her bills and buying the diapers....

I get that they probably had a little nest egg set aside but there is still a light bill and a mortgage to pay. JB better be prepared to deal with it all. They're not going to allow Anna to get a real job while she's home alone, so what...get her certified as a real estate agent and let her do some of JB's office work and "pay" her? Or "manage" John David's little business?

While they're all praying for hubbie to get right, they need to be producing some damn

income.

:doh: :think:

[Zoria]

We believe true addiction treatment begins with discipleship.

What's the point of evidence-based practice when you can make up your own practice based on... your beliefs? :lol: :lol:

Let's see, I believe that true addiction treatment starts with chocolate. It's totally legit. :mrgreen:

[JenniferJuniper]

My only question is: who's paying her bills and buying the diapers....

I get that they probably had a little nest egg set aside but there is still a light bill and a mortgage to pay. JB better be prepared to deal with it all. They're not going to allow Anna to get a real job while she's home alone, so what...get her certified as a real estate agent and let her do some of JB's office work and "pay" her? Or "manage" John David's little business?

While they're all praying for hubbie to get right, they need to be producing some damn

income.

:doh: :think:

She won't work. Jim Bob will support and control her and keep her away from those members of her family who want to remove her from the terrible situation she is in.

[nickelodeon]

If doing "good honest work" is so good for building character, how come our Duggarly friends are so chill about the fact that neither of their sons in law have jobs?

[Jessa's Feet]

Looks like Josh is off for an intense dose of the type of "treatment" which worked so well for him before. Sadly, I predict that Anna will stay with him and the only changes will be that Josh will emerge more self-righteous than ever and Madison will be deleted from the possible list of M-names.

I do find it very fitting that from the very start they chose to use "M" names. Then all of this happened and Josh becomes connected with an adultery website with a very common in your face M name. I'm pretty sure if they were thinking of ending the M name theme, they'll end it for damn sure now. I'm betting an M theme would be a constant reminder. Because every time they'd make lists of names or people would come up with names, Madison would be a passing thought because it's such a common name and it would always bring crap up.

He just couldn't have been involved with something that didn't have an M name. *shakes head*

[laundry]

Him = the roommate, right? Talk about get lucky.

No, the Lord. If they're not willing to spend an hour a day with the Lord, they're not "able" to be there.

[FlorenceHamilton]

I just want to shout out to FJ for totally scooping this story. You all ROCK!

My family has been teasing me for year about my obsession with fundies, Duggars and FJ. Now they come to me for the updates and totally admit I was right all along.

:)

[goldfishgoddess]

Darn, guess this means Josh will miss Amy's wedding. I think they are relieved.