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Yes, let's see all those stay-at-home daughters in their wedding photos! Botkinettes...wedding photos? Kelly and Andrea Reins? Sarah, Anna and Mary Maxwell? Wedding photos? Anyone? Anyone???

...crickets...

I'm at work, or I'd dig up some of the really terrible fundie wedding photos we have seen. There are some that are downright creepy, like the one where the groom is the same age as the officiant/father of the bride, which wasn't too terribly old since the bride was a teenager.

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Oh somebody post Doug and Be-all's wedding photo where Doig looks like he can't get far enough away from her!!!!

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And there is STILL a good chance they will decline to annul. An actual Catholic marriage actually CANNOT be dissolved for ANY reason. An annulment is the recognition that the marriage was never validly contracted to begin with and was therefore never valid.

From wikipedia: "A "Declaration of Nullity" is not the dissolution of an existing marriage (as is a dispensation from a marriage ratum sed non consummatum), but rather a determination that consent was never validly exchanged due to a failure to meet the requirements to enter validly into matrimony and thus a marriage never existed."

The Dutch Catholic Church is notorious for its rebellious attitude toward Rome. Rules are flouted and they do what they see fit, even if it goes against all rules.

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Oh somebody post Doug and Be-all's wedding photo where Doig looks like he can't get far enough away from her!!!!

Doug's curled bangs are so pretty and feminine in that pic!

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Doug's curled bangs are so pretty and feminine in that pic!

Does someone have the photo saved? The link in the original fj thread is disabled.

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And there is STILL a good chance they will decline to annul. An actual Catholic marriage actually CANNOT be dissolved for ANY reason. An annulment is the recognition that the marriage was never validly contracted to begin with and was therefore never valid.

From wikipedia: "A "Declaration of Nullity" is not the dissolution of an existing marriage (as is a dispensation from a marriage ratum sed non consummatum), but rather a determination that consent was never validly exchanged due to a failure to meet the requirements to enter validly into matrimony and thus a marriage never existed."

And that's why I haven't tried to get mine annulled. I'm not sure I will. It's invasive and a huge, huge hassle.

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Ugh, the Baylys are human garbage. I'd forgotten all about them. Remember that one time when a lady posted a dissenting opinion on their blog and they accused her of causing the downfall of civilization and demanded the name and phone number of her pastor so they could call and tell on her? Those men are delusional, women-hating freakshows.

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James McDonald recommends Young Living's "Stress Away" essential oil to those who have been terrorized by the sodomites today:

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And there is STILL a good chance they will decline to annul. An actual Catholic marriage actually CANNOT be dissolved for ANY reason. An annulment is the recognition that the marriage was never validly contracted to begin with and was therefore never valid.

From wikipedia: "A "Declaration of Nullity" is not the dissolution of an existing marriage (as is a dispensation from a marriage ratum sed non consummatum), but rather a determination that consent was never validly exchanged due to a failure to meet the requirements to enter validly into matrimony and thus a marriage never existed."

Of course, if you have the connections and/or the money (donated to the Church of course), even a marriage of many years with children of the union, can be annulled. I have a distant relative whose parents were very devout Catholics, donated huge sums of money to the Church, met the Pope twice, etc. Their grown daughter was able to get her 20+ year marriage annulled on some pretext. Apparently, that was important to her and her future (2nd) husband. And they are Catholic fundies, always posting hateful stuff about Obama, how he's the anti-Christ and such crap.

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Oh somebody post Doug and Be-all's wedding photo where Doug looks like he can't get far enough away from her!!!!

Ask, and it shall be given until you! From our old LOL Doug thread:

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And, because it's too good not to:

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Oh somebody post Doug and Be-all's wedding photo where Doig looks like he can't get far enough away from her!!!!

Haha--you mean the one where Be-All looks like she's marrying a middle-schooler? Doug looks like such a kid in that pic, I've always thought of him as "Dougie Howser, JD" whenever I've seen it.

This is a glorious day. Not only is it a triumph for civil rights in this country, but watching fundies, teabaggers, and various right-wing conspiracy nuts collectively shit themselves is immensely entertaining. Couldn't happen to nicer people.

It's too hot here to make popcorn, so I'm eating ice cream as I watch the spectacle; at this rate, my ass won't fit through the door by the end of the weekend. But it's so worth it--I've been hoping to see this day for so long, and it's HERE. Omigod, it's REAL. The bigots can scream all they want--love and equality won.

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Bob Shupe commented on David Botkin's post. It is one doozy of a comment. Swig any alcohol you need beforehand to get through this:

The problem with your argument is that this ruling was about government endorsement of gay marriage not social endorsement. The left has had social endorsement for a long time. The really interesting thing is that the left likes to associate gar rights with civil rights but what I want to know is, how has civil rights really helped the black community in a way that the gay community can point to as something they will want and benefit from. I think much of this whole movement is nothing to do with rights of any kind for any group, it os about socialism, communism and ultimately slavery to the state for all. The gay rights movement is nothing more than a useful idiot of the left to move the bigger addenda forward and anyone on the right who focuses their energy on the gay rights issue is the victim of a slight of hand trick #thenakedtruth #atlasshrugged
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I'm not sure she counts as fundie but I don't see a better place to put this. This Catholic blogger follows the line that this is all tied to birth control and no-fault divorce, and as a result churches are going to lose their tax exempt status and we'll all suffer and regret this! And other fun speculation (discrimination lawsuits, etc.).

patheos.com/blogs/simchafisher/2015/06/26/will-the-catholic-church-be-hurt-by-the-supreme-courts-ruling-on-gay-marriage/

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OMG, I just love it! I have this mental image of all these OUTRAGED!1!!1!1 fundies feverishly bashing away on their keyboards, wailing and gnashing their teeth, and achieving exactly..........nothing. :D

Good one USA!

And oh the embarrassment that Australia is so behind with same sex marriage. :cry:

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Concerning the Catholic policy: Our local catholic priest is know for his very conservative personal views on cohabitation and sex before marriage. Last year, a gay couple started talking about getting married after 20 years of being together. One of them is catholic. They are very involved in community work, so word spread pretty quickly. The Catholic priest got wind of this, picked up a bottle of wine, went to their house and told them he was very happy that they would soon end their sinful lifestyle, and that he would be happy to perform their marriage ceremony at the local church - without official recognition by the church, but just like any other catholic ceremony, so that, you know, at least before God they would stop that awful sex before marriage. And yes, I know all three of them personally, the priest is my next door neighbor.

So yeah, with the catholics, everything depends on your priest and his personal opinion.

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OMG, I just love it! I have this mental image of all these OUTRAGED!1!!1!1 fundies feverishly bashing away on their keyboards, wailing and gnashing their teeth, and achieving exactly..........nothing. :D

Good one USA!

And oh the embarrassment that Australia is so behind with same sex marriage. :cry:

Exactly. What DO they think they are achieving? Also, how exactly does this impact them on a personal level? The SCOTUS decision does nothing that will change THEIR marriages, their lifestyle, their bible thumping ways. I just want to hold out my harms and do a world wide

"Simma down now!! Everyone just simma down!!!"

I was going to "unfriend" a lot of people on Facebook as the 2016 election drew near ('cause political rants make me stabby), but I think now's a good time to do that. Good grief, the absolute hysteria and panic I'm reading is just ridiculous.

As an important aside, this Christian Fjer would like to wish the most sincere congratulations to all same sex couples out there who are now free to marry. Best wishes to you as you celebrate this new law and your love for one another.

Edited for punctuation

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Australia would actually be the best place for fundies as our prime minister trained to be a priest, (despite) having a gay sister, is a devout Catholic and once Canberra accidentally unbanned gay marriage there for a day and it was quickly changed back and every gay couple had their marriage licence revoked.

And we've already been told things won't be changing.

If all these fundies find out Australia hasn't unbanned gay marriage, I'm more than happy to move to Canada (or as our Prime Minister calls it Canadia).

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...What DO they think they are achieving? Also, how exactly does this impact them on a personal level? The SCOTUS decision does nothing that will change THEIR marriages, their lifestyle, their bible thumping ways. I just want to hold out my arms and do a world wide

"Simma down now!! Everyone just simma down!!!"

In Texas, the Governor, Lt. Governor and Texas Attorney General are all clutching their pearls and fretting about their religious liberties being abridged. They are terrified that county clerks with 'sincerely held religious beliefs' (otherwise known as homophobes and bigots) might be obligated to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple.

According to the Dallas Morning News, here's what my governor (Greg Abbott) did when he got the SCOTUS news:

Abbott sent a memo to the heads of state agencies directing them to “preserve, protect, and defend the religious liberty of every Texan.†That order “applies to any agency decision,†including granting or denying benefits, managing state employees and making decisions on or enforcing contracts, licenses and permits, the memo says.

Abbott said agency heads “should ensure that no one acting on behalf of their agency takes any adverse action against any person, as defined in Chapter 311 of the Texas Government Code, on account of the person’s act or refusal to act that is substantially motivated by sincere religious belief.â€

The section of state law says “person†includes a “corporation, organization, government or governmental subdivision or agency, business trust, estate, trust, partnership, association, and any other legal entity.â€

This is an invitation to have open season on discriminating against gay people at every level of state government.

San Antonio lawyer Neel Lane, who represented the two same-sex couples who successfully challenged Texas’ gay marriage ban, condemned Abbott’s action and statements.

I’m astonished that the chief executive of Texas is encouraging state officials not to follow the law based on religious beliefs...
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In 1943 my father an atheist married my catholic mother in church, in front of a small altar in the back of the church. I believe they had special dispensation. This was in France.

After the second Vatican Concilium 1962, everything was allowed, getting married atheists, protestants and the like at least in the Netherlands. Getting a divorce was difficult, but possible.

My parents were married in 1946. When they started dating, Dad was a Baptist. Mom, a Catholic, did not want him to change religions on her account, and told me that she would have been happy to marry him in the rectory, as the practice was for "mixed marriages" back then. Dad was intent on converting, though, and they had a church wedding.

Weddings between Catholics and non-Catholics have been taking place on Catholic churches in the U.S. For decades, but typically in ceremonies that do not include a Mass.

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I was pleasantly surprised that I only had to block 2 people on Facebook. Either I already purged the worst of the lot or the people in my feed are more open-minded than I would have figured (or smart enough to not post their bigotry on FB for public consumption).

However, I live in New Orleans and watching our "esteemed" governor, Bobby Jindal, shit a brick and froth at the mouth over this has been most entertaining.

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And this morning, Kelly Reins (via FB) has her knickers in a twist over "35 Companies Celebrating Sodomy:"

ijreview.com/2015/06/354051-35-companies-just-told-america-exactly-think-scotus-gay-marriage-ruling/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Legal

I guess Little Miss Priss isn't going to be doing much shopping from here on out! (Me, I'm loving these ads - the one from Whole Foods is my fave.)

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I'm not sure she counts as fundie but I don't see a better place to put this. This Catholic blogger follows the line that this is all tied to birth control and no-fault divorce, and as a result churches are going to lose their tax exempt status and we'll all suffer and regret this! And other fun speculation (discrimination lawsuits, etc.).

patheos.com/blogs/simchafisher/2015/06/26/will-the-catholic-church-be-hurt-by-the-supreme-courts-ruling-on-gay-marriage/

She is obsessed with birth control.

Remember when reading Patheos Catholic that no one who is not a right winger need apply. If you want to guarantee publication there, it is probably better to sing the praises of Latin Mass and cry a bit about Vatican II as well.

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