7 Reasons to Pay More for Young Living Essential Oils

[Hellogorgeous]

Essential oils are the new Tupperware. Just another MLM way for housewives and SAHMs to earn money without having to get a "job".

Having said that, I do use oils. I do not ingest them or use them undiluted topically, but do use them for aromatherapy.

[antwan]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you know the difference between homeopathy as a practice and essential oils.

What amazes me is the fundies seem to "discover' this kind of nonsense n a regular basis. Basically I think it's the can't afford proper healthcare for my blessings so....

I remember using tea tree oil decades ago for breakouts. Dropping lavender in the bath etc. tea tree obviously works well as do some others. I just don't get why all of a sudden it's the in thing?

That. ^^^ Discrediting homeopathy via a single source and/or generalizing "every scientific study before" does not disprove the benefits of essential oils, whose various chemical constituents are known antifungal, antiviral, antibacterial, etc. For instance,...

This....

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi ... z3SVLETaf1

And this (regarding Thieves, which contains clove, lemon, cinnamon bark, eucalyptus, and Rosemary):

Studies conducted at Weber State University showed the antibacterial effectiveness of the Thieves blend against airborne microorganisms. One study showed a 90 percent reduction in the number of gram positive Micrococcus luteus organisms after diffusing for 12 minutes. After 20 minutes of diffusing, the kill-rate jumped to 99.3 percent. Another study against the gram negative Pseudomonas aeruginosa showed a kill rate of 99.6 percent after just 12 minutes of diffusion.

ETA: The comment about oil reps not providing info regarding dilution for use is incorrect. I have yet to experience a rep who does not share this information, as well as info regarding which oils are safe/unsafe for pregnancy, children, those taking meds for high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. It's a very connected community of support and information for those who choose to give oils a try as a compliment to wellness.

Also, one commenter mentioned that homeopathy is just dilution to water, basically. This is not correct, -not a common practice (dilution) with YL, hence the need for knowledge about oil application safety.

I find that the best use, for my own family, is in symptom relief for common conditions where one might reach for OTC meds.

[nelliebelle1197]

That. ^^^ Discrediting homeopathy via a single source and/or generalizing "every scientific study before" does not disprove the benefits of essential oils, whose various chemical constituents are known antifungal, antiviral, antibacterial, etc. For instance,...

This....

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi ... z3SVLETaf1

And this (regarding Thieves, which contains clove, lemon, cinnamon bark, eucalyptus, and Rosemary):

Studies conducted at Weber State University showed the antibacterial effectiveness of the Thieves blend against airborne microorganisms. One study showed a 90 percent reduction in the number of gram positive Micrococcus luteus organisms after diffusing for 12 minutes. After 20 minutes of diffusing, the kill-rate jumped to 99.3 percent. Another study against the gram negative Pseudomonas aeruginosa showed a kill rate of 99.6 percent after just 12 minutes of diffusion.

ETA: the comment about oil reps not providing info regarding dilution for use is incorrect. I have yet to experience a rep who does not share this information, as well as info regarding which oils are safe/unsafe for pregnancy, children, those taking meds for high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. It's a very connected community of support and information for those who choose to give oils a try as a compliment to wellness. I find that the best use, for my own family, is in symptom relief for common conditions where one might reach for OTC meds.

What is Weber State University and where's the study and methodology? Who funded the study? Do you have anything else other than this one study? How does one study by a no name college in the middle of no where stand up to an exhaustive, years long project conducted by Australia's national health research center?

I did notice that school was in Utah, Ground Zero for MLMs. I am sure there is no connection.

[antwan]

What is Weber State University and where's the study and methodology? Who funded the study? Do you have anything else other than this one study? How does one study by a no name college in the middle of no where stand up to an exhaustive, years long project conducted by Australia's national health research center?

I did notice that school was in Utah, Ground Zero for MLMs. I am sure there is no connection.

All the info is freely available online. I notice you ask where and what Weber State is, for example, but then answer your own question. As for who funded the study, how many are there, etc., those are always wise questions for those who intend to USE the information (meaning I've done my own research for the benefit of my family, and I am satisfied with the answers. You may do the same if you so desire the answers.) I also provided another article for you to read, if you are remotely interested. My point was and is that generalizations about homeopathy do not negate the benefits of essential oils. 'Nuff said.

[OkToBeTakei]

Still folks are VERY much confusing homeopathy with aromatherapy and the use of essential oils. They are entirely different!!!!!

[nelliebelle1197]

All the info is freely available online. I notice you ask where and what Weber State is, for example, but then answer your own question. As for who funded the study, how many are there, etc., those are always wise questions for those who intend to USE the information (meaning I've done my own research for the benefit of my family, and I am satisfied with the answers. You may do the same if you so desire the answers.) I also provided another article for you to read, if you are remotely interested. My point was and is that generalizations about homeopathy do not negate the benefits ofessential oils. 'Nuff said.

Not really. If you are going to throw things as valid, including some study from some unknown school, you need to back up your argument. Otherwise, you have no argument, just a bunch of pretentious, know it all comments that do nothing but make you look like a pretentious know it all, not someone who is legitimately educated in a subject. I could break down your "points" line by line in your last two posts so you could understand how exactly said comments don't actually make you look well-versed in the use of "essential oils", but rather more like an MLM marketing brochure, but perhaps you benefit more if you did that yourself.

[Coconut Flan]

Still folks are VERY much confusing homeopathy with aromatherapy and the use of essential oils. They are entirely different!!!!!

I always thought they were. Homeopathy is those little bottles of sugar type pills or liquids with the usually Latin or Latin sounding names and 2x or such on them frequently in natural food stores or online and essential oils are distillations of plant products. I make two essential oils in my garage and I don't think I've ever made a homeopathic drug ever. On the right track, eh?

[SoybeanQueen]

Also, influenza is a virus, so you can wax poetic about the antibac benefits of essential oils all day, and it still won't cure you of the flu.

I use EOs occasionally. Love tea tree oil for a variety of things, lavender is calming to me (an anxious person), and have used some blends to help ease breathing when I'm congested. I'm not anti-oil. However, I think it's ridiculous that people are suddenly making these outlandish claims about curing things when the terminology is off and there's little to no evidence.

I didn't realize there was confusion about homeopathy vs oils, either. I hope the oil craze doesn't bring homeopathy into the mainstream. Just what we need - more people buying overly expensive water that may have once been in the vicinity of a molecule of a rare Siberian orchid that cures cancer, the flu, AIDS, hepatitis, and chicken pox. And bunions.

[nelliebelle1197]

The confusion between using essential oils and homeopathy is likely that some homeopathic-types advocate using essential oils.

I mean, look at this:

nourishingherbalist.com/home-remedies-for-colds-and-flus/

All there together. No wonder there is confusion. A lot of websites and info have the terms conflated or used together in a way that can be confusing.

[OkToBeTakei]

I always thought they were. Homeopathy is those little bottles of sugar type pills or liquids with the usually Latin or Latin sounding names and 2x or such on them frequently in natural food stores or online and essential oils are distillations of plant products. I make two essential oils in my garage and I don't think I've ever made a homeopathic drug ever. On the right track, eh?

Are you breaking bad? :lol: :lol: :lol:

The confusion between using essential oils and homeopathy is likely that some homeopathic-types advocate using essential oils.

I mean, look at this:

nourishingherbalist.com/home-remedies-for-colds-and-flus/

All there together. No wonder there is confusion. A lot of websites and info have the terms conflated or used together in a way that can be confusing.

I'm really surprised to be honest that people were confusing the two. I wonder if they were confused as to terminology. It just seemed so incongruous that on a thread discussing essential oils randomly somebody mentioned that homeopathy is scientifically a crock.

I think they may have confused the term homeopathy with the term alternative medicine?

Homeopathy (i/ˌhoʊmiˈɒpəθi/; also spelled homoeopathy; from the Greek: ὅμοιος hómoios, "-like" and πάθος páthos, "suffering") is a system of alternative medicine created in 1796 by Samuel Hahnemann based on his doctrine of like cures like (similia similibus curentur), whereby a substance that causes the symptoms of a disease in healthy people will cure similar symptoms in sick people.[1] Homeopathy is considered a pseudoscience.[2][3][4][5] It is not effective for any condition, and no homeopathic remedy has been proven to be more effective than placebo

Just a very quick whack a google tells you.

Aromatherapy uses plant materials and aromatic plant oils, including essential oils, and other aromatic compounds for the purpose of altering one's mood, cognitive, psychological or physical wellbeing.[1]

It can be offered as a complementary therapy or, more controversially, as form of alternative medicine. Complementary therapy can be offered alongside standard treatment,[2] with alternative medicine offered 'instead of conventional treatments', conventional treatments being often scientifically proven.[3]

Aromatherapists, who specialise in the practice of aromatherapy, utilise blends of therapeutic essential oils that can be issued through topical application, massage, inhalation or water immersion to stimulate a desired response.

So pretty different. It's like saying raiki is homeopathy.

I agree maybe that crossover with some oils used in homeopathic compounds may be confusing folks.

So yeah... :lol:

I tell ya the things we discuss here are always fun :lol: :lol:

[FJismyheadship]

I have used over the counter homeopathic medicines for my daughter. When she was a newborn, Tummy Calm was my best friend until we sorted our all of her issues with formula and reflux and such. When we got to teething, I gave her teething tablets. Then I learned they had Belladonna and that it can be dangerous, so we used it sparingly. One girl I know used to give her kid a couple to make him sleep.. I didn't like that idea.

Anyway, they did seem to help my daughter.

We do lavender baths for bed time. She also has.a stuffed owl with beads in him that smell like lavender.... or they.did before my roommate threw owl in the washer. My mother has asthma and lavender has always helped her with that. There's this one brainwash that has rosemary, thyme, and mint to help with a cold, but I don't remember what it is off the to of my head.

When we are any sicker we go to the doctor. But we use some fragrance products and homeopathic things.

[DGayle]

There is no scientific case for homeopathy: the debate is over

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... s-placebos

A huge study (& every scientific study before) shows they are no better than a placebo.

But hey placebos have their place. A Disney bandaid makes a kid feel better about their scrape. A dab of something can help you feel less stressed.

I'm pretty sure that a massage by my husband with any warm oil works just as well for relax my muscles as popping some diazepam. I'm also pretty sure that keeping my sprained ankle propped up with ice packs a couple times a day, which is also homeopathic since it's non-natural-drug-free, is more effective than taking pills and walking around.

The scent of vanilla does relax me, and that's not a placebo.

Tell you what. You can run to the doctor for a prescription when you get a little cut, and I'll treat that homeopathically in my home with soap and warm water and maybe a cute little bandaid.

[nelliebelle1197]

I'm pretty sure that a massage by my husband with any warm oil works just as well for relax my muscles as popping some diazepam. I'm also pretty sure that keeping my sprained ankle propped up with ice packs a couple times a day, which is also homeopathic since it's non-natural-drug-free, is more effective than taking pills and walking around.

The scent of vanilla does relax me, and that's not a placebo.

Tell you what. You can run to the doctor for a prescription when you get a little cut, and I'll treat that homeopathically in my home with soap and warm water and maybe a cute little bandaid.

Except, to save OKTBTK the trouble, that is not homeopathy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy

Homeopathy is not the same thing as ice packs or vanilla. Not at all. Vanilla would be aromatherapy; the rest of the stuff you list is NOT homeopathy, but rather home cures. It is not the same thing and no where did the poster of that study claim she was running to the doctor for a little cut. And relaxing due to a scent IS a placebo effect as a placebo is something that gives a psychological effect rather than a physiological.

You are welcome, OKTBTK, even though your canned chicken proves you hate me. :dance:

[SquirrelySquirrel]

I have used over the counter homeopathic medicines for my daughter. When she was a newborn, Tummy Calm was my best friend until we sorted our all of her issues with formula and reflux and such. When we got to teething, I gave her teething tablets. Then I learned they had Belladonna and that it can be dangerous, so we used it sparingly. One girl I know used to give her kid a couple to make him sleep.. I didn't like that idea.

Anyway, they did seem to help my daughter.

We do lavender baths for bed time. She also has.a stuffed owl with beads in him that smell like lavender.... or they.did before my roommate threw owl in the washer. My mother has asthma and lavender has always helped her with that. There's this one brainwash that has rosemary, thyme, and mint to help with a cold, but I don't remember what it is off the to of my head.

When we are any sicker we go to the doctor. But we use some fragrance products and homeopathic things.

I gave my daughter the teething tablets (9 years ago) and they seemed to help. I recommended them to a family member a few years later and we believe they caused her daughter to have seizure-like episodes, where her head would twitch around and she'd lose focus. The doctors could not say with 100% certainty of course, but they started within the time frame and stopped when she stopped using them. Neither of us had heard about the belladonna before then. So I always warn people. It was really scary to watch happen and the baby had to undergo a lot of testing to rule everything else out.

[Ave Maria]

Except, to save OKTBTK the trouble, that is not homeopathy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy

Homeopathy is not the same thing as ice packs or vanilla. Not at all. Vanilla would be aromatherapy; the rest of the stuff you list is NOT homeopathy, but rather home cures. It is not the same thing and no where did the poster of that study claim she was running to the doctor for a little cut. And relaxing due to a scent IS a placebo effect as a placebo is something that gives a psychological effect rather than a physiological.

This.

Except for the bold -- my understanding is that a placebo is a psychological response that makes you think a physical problem is fixed, rather than something like being relaxed. Otherwise, anything we find relaxing is a "placebo effect." (And that would have to include things like alcohol, a known chemical depressant.)

I think a lot of the confusion about "home remedies" vs "homeopathy" is the word "home." :P But they are very different things. Homeopathy is always quackery, while some home remedies really work and are even recommended widely by doctors as follow up care or treatment for more minor illnesses.

[nelliebelle1197]

Yeah, you are probably right. I was thinking of a more vernacular use- where you are using something that has no impact but makes you feel better - a non-scientific "placebo effect"; make sense?

[formergothardite]

My favorite video about homeopathy:

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I once got talked into taking one of my daughters to a homeopathic practitioner and when we left my husband was like "Did we just pay $180 for tiny bottles of vibrated water?" Yes, yes we did. :lol:

[Shirley Blest]

I am down with a herniated lumbar disc...I am pretty vocal about the sheer amount of pain I am in right now. One of my friends sent me some stuff on YL oils last night and was telling me well they work...for the $150 to buy that shit, I'll pass!

[Grimalkin]

Are you breaking bad? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm really surprised to be honest that people were confusing the two. I wonder if they were confused as to terminology. It just seemed so incongruous that on a thread discussing essential oils randomly somebody mentioned that homeopathy is scientifically a crock.

I think they may have confused the term homeopathy with the term alternative medicine?

Just a very quick whack a google tells you.

So pretty different. It's like saying raiki is homeopathy.

I agree maybe that crossover with some oils used in homeopathic compounds may be confusing folks.

So yeah... :lol:

I tell ya the things we discuss here are always fun :lol: :lol:

count me as a person who did not know the difference. I never kept up with these trends. I also have no problem using harsh possibly toxic chemicals to clean my house (Don't mix ammonia and bleach! There not kidding!)

So homeopathy would be like using Windex as a cure all alla My Big Fat Greek Wedding. My husband's version of this is Vasaline.

Very recently, within the past few weeks I have been making cleaning supplies that were not vinegar and water and actually really like the results. On a whim I picked up some taminu oil to try and help my oldest with her acne. I also got tea tree oil (OMFG it stinks!) believe it or not the taminu oil is effective on the red marks for her acne and don't laugh, it really is helping my husband with his psoriasis outbreak- seriously I would dare say as effective as any prescription he ever used.

I have since played with making beauty products.....the thing about placebo effect here is that I rarely take the time to massage my face with oil (actually never) and breath in nice fragrances while relaxing. So I like the placebo effect. I take 10-15 minutes from my day to relax and do something nice for myself.

So I am more open to these things and having fun. If my daughters acne gets worse or does not improve I will take her to a doctor. My husband won't for psoriasis- the sun will clear it up too. I'm not going to go off my meds for it, but it has made me stop and take a minute to relax and I really need to do that lately, I have a lot of tough things going on right now.

[Anny Nym]

Ha, this thread just helped me to discover, that I too own a Young Living product! I got it in a gift basket from a former colleague and never paid much attention to it until now...

I never encountered a YL MLM person or party Invitation (which I get my fair share of it, mostly at my PTA´s and our local Parent´s Cafe - the one with the vegan pet food was the worst & most weird one. We don´t even own a pet :shrug: )

Just this lone little guy here. Well, I never considered it a buy-again brand anyway, because I was already quite suspicious of its Quality and now I´m even more. :shifty-kitty:

re: homeopathie

Without dipping too much into the "does it now work or not?" debate, what I really dislike about it is that it too aides to a quite problematic ideology, namely the "There is a pill you can pop for every minor itch and even the slightest discomfort".

Homeopathy is just the alternative path to the far more huge conventional one.

Just look at it, there is a dillution or a Dxx pill for just.everything. except one to change the weather!

That is not something I believe in nor do we want to teach this to our children, so homeopathy is definitely not in our medical cabinet.

Now we use essential oils here and there. NOT a MLM brand but a solid austrian one I could be sure about the quality. Like peppermint and lavender against midge and flies in summer. Clove oil is recommended by dentists routinely, that´s not something new. :D

[Shirley Blest]

I've used Tea Tree oil in shampoo to prevent my kid from getting lice...seems to work!

[CelticGoddess]

I've used Tea Tree oil in shampoo to prevent my kid from getting lice...seems to work!

I use tea tree to prevent serious dandruff problems for both my daughter and I. It works.

And, tea tree is also good for preventing mold/mildew in the bathroom. I lived in Charleston (SC) and during the summer, no matter how often I cleaned, I would have some mold develop on my window sill. I started using tea tree in water (mix before spraying) and I was able to have a mold free bathroom. BTW: The humidity in Charleston is awful!

I do have a question for the person who uses them for the "airborne" virus or bacteria. How exactly does that work? Unless you are spraying largish amounts of the stuff around, it isn't going to filter viruses or bacteria out of the air. I would need to see a study to prove that it works. And I'll stick to my N95 respirator when I have to enter pts rooms who have airborne or droplet diseases.

[SoybeanQueen]

So homeopathy would be like using Windex as a cure all alla My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

LOL. Except Windex has actual ingredients beyond tap water.

[Mango]

Someone needs to start a business selling electronic homeopathic remedies. You buy it and they email you a piece of paper you dunk in the bottle of water provided by yourself. After all, the email has electrons that maybe were at one time in the 'active principle' or whatever they call it and when you print it out they magically contagious transfer. Or something.

[JMarie]

Ha, this thread just helped me to discover, that I too own a Young Living product! I got it in a gift basket from a former colleague and never paid much attention to it until now...

I never encountered a YL MLM person or party Invitation (which I get my fair share of it, mostly at my PTA´s and our local Parent´s Cafe - the one with the vegan pet food was the worst & most weird one. We don´t even own a pet :shrug: )

Just this lone little guy here. Well, I never considered it a buy-again brand anyway, because I was already quite suspicious of its Quality and now I´m even more. :shifty-kitty:

re: homeopathie

Without dipping too much into the "does it now work or not?" debate, what I really dislike about it is that it too aides to a quite problematic ideology, namely the "There is a pill you can pop for every minor itch and even the slightest discomfort".

Homeopathy is just the alternative path to the far more huge conventional one.

Just look at it, there is a dillution or a Dxx pill for just.everything. except one to change the weather!

That is not something I believe in nor do we want to teach this to our children, so homeopathy is definitely not in our medical cabinet.

Now we use essential oils here and there. NOT a MLM brand but a solid austrian one I could be sure about the quality. Like peppermint and lavender against midge and flies in summer. Clove oil is recommended by dentists routinely, that´s not something new. :D

I have Deep Relief and it works pretty well. My mom is a quadriplegic and I often have lower back pain. It doesn't eliminate the pain, but it does make it more manageable.