Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles

[Elinor]

I don't think all fundies celebrate birthdays. We know some don't celebrate Christmas because it's a man-invented holiday. Why would the fundies who won't even celebrate the birth of Jesus celebrate the birth of a bunch of babies born sinning?

As far as I know, all fundies celebrate birthdays. I have never heard of fundies not celebrating birthdays before.

[Firiel]

As far as I know, all fundies celebrate birthdays. I have never heard of fundies not celebrating birthdays before.

I actually just found this sect: rcg.org/home.html

They are anti-birthday as per this article: rcg.org/articles/abcc.html

I'd never heard of them before, but that leaves the possibility of this being legit alive.

[bluelady]

I work at a state university.

The Quidditch club just got recognized as an official club. This means the uni will pay for their travel. If I ever find out their schedule, I'm going. I'd love to see how this translates to real world. Like, the seeker.

The pic accompanying article showed a few kids in regular looking tee shirts and shorts with brooms in their hands. Hogwarts style brooms, which I have never seen one like that IRL.

There is a documentary on YouTube called Brooms Up! About the Quidditch World Cup featuring teams from universities from all across North America. I showed it to my Phys Ed class one day and then we modified it and played it in the gym.

It was super fun.

[16strong]

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/mom-rewriting ... 00371.html

OMG, this has to be read to be believed: Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles, a new fanfic. Now fundies can partake in the joy of HP...with "Christian morals" instead of magic. :ew:

The excerpt featured in the article:

“What is a Christian?†Harry queried innocently; and scuffed his shoe on the shaggy, yellow carpet which had not been vacuumed in quite some time.

“Christians are people who want to be good,†Hagrid explained wisely; and crouched down so he was on eye level with Harry. “We want to go to heaven after we die. Do you know what heaven is, Harry?â€

Harry shook his head; and his big eyes were wide and curious.

“Heaven is a beautiful place where we can be with God.â€

Aunt Petunia smacked her hands over Harry’s young ears; and her voice was sickly sweet when she said, “Thank you very much for your concern, sir, but he does not need your religion, he has science and socialism and birthdays. Haven’t you heard of Evolution? I have a very good textbook on Evolution that I could give you on it if you would like to learn things.â€

Hagrid laughed wisely. “Evolution is a fairytale. You don’t really believe that, do you?â€

“Yes, I do!†Aunt Petunia screeched.

“Well then prove it!â€

Aunt Petunia could only stare at him; and her big mouth hung open dumbly. Here she thought she was so educated; and always demanded that Christians prove what they believed in; but she couldn’t even prove her own religion. It was then that Harry knew who the smart one here was!

[Ivycoveredtower]

yeah we discussed this in another thread though it sounds like she's added a few more chapters since then.

[DGayle]

It's gotten so much worse. So much worse than I thought it could ever get. She's defending misogyny and woman-hating. It's up to 8 chapters. The 8th is one of the most offensive things I've ever read, and that's even considering what gets talked about on this forum.

[thoughtful]

@midnight had some fun with this last night:

http://www.cc.com/full-episodes/brgee4/ ... 1-ep-01120

Go to 4:10.

NSFW!

[Antigone]

I just had to read the whole thing and wow. Just wow. I laughed and laughed, especially when it came to Severus Snape. I wonder if he'll be a turncoat, or end up Dumbledore's man? I'm a bit confused though, about Draco and the Malfoys- the "ravenclaw hats" and Luna Lovegood in her "Hufflepuff hat".

And what about the ending in the first book, where Hermione actually uses her brains? So far I see her writing Hermione and Minerva as "good proverbs 31" women. Gag.

[Eponine]

I work at a state university.

The Quidditch club just got recognized as an official club. This means the uni will pay for their travel. If I ever find out their schedule, I'm going. I'd love to see how this translates to real world. Like, the seeker.

The pic accompanying article showed a few kids in regular looking tee shirts and shorts with brooms in their hands. Hogwarts style brooms, which I have never seen one like that IRL.

I went to a fairly hippie-ish liberal arts school that historically doesn't care much about sports, but even 6-8 years ago we had a prominent Quidditch team! They traveled and played against other schools in the region, and if I recall correctly a few years ago some schools started a Quidditch championship league. It's pretty hilarious to watch and everyone has fun.

I also think this is a Poe but it makes highly entertaining reading! I think my favorite so far is the description of Snape.

[bumblebee]

Why would a fairly strict fundie want to rewrite the Harry Potter books for her kids anyway? Isn't hearing his very name making kids turn to the occult? Wouldn't it be better to get them to read something like the Moody books or similar?

But if its a Poe its not a particularly clever one, though it's doubly difficult in this case because whilst IMO JKR has some weak spots as a writer, one of the best things about the books was the wittiness.

If it is real maybe next time they can rewrite it so that Percy Jackson and gang turn their backs on their literal heathen god parents and unite with Jesus to destroy them, that would make for happy bed time reading.

[PennySycamore]

I actually just found this sect: rcg.org/home.html

They are anti-birthday as per this article: rcg.org/articles/abcc.html

I'd never heard of them before, but that leaves the possibility of this being legit alive.

The Restored Church of God is an offshoot of the old Worldwide Church of God founded by Herbert Armstrong. The church fell apart sometime after Herbert's death when it was led by his son Garner Ted Armstrong, It's always been a cult and the Restored Church is no different in that respect. They emphasize end-of-the-world "prophesies" to an uncommon degree. Of interest to us is that the ATI Big Sandy campus used to be a WWCoG property. They're just attracting a different basket of nuts now.

[DGayle]

Those types object to Christmas because it's a pagan holiday, according to them. The evil Catholics took the pagan solstice celebrations, slapped Jesus on it, and have deceived millions through the centuries. Well, that's how tthe thinking goes.

Regular birthdays, not being tainted by Catholicism or paganism, are okay.

Disclaimer: I am not, and have never been, a fundie. But married the son of one.

One of my best friends was raised as a fundy of the Jehovah's Witness type. All man-invented holidays were banned. I told her when I was a kid I had a friend who was JW who told me holidays and birthdays weren't allowed because someone sometime asked for a human head,and so to stop that, no birthdays or holidays. I was surprised when my friend told me that's not an uncommon tale JW kids are told. She was told that too, and learned later it's because man-invented distract from time that is supposed to be sent singing the praises of a conceited god who gave people brains and free will with the punishment of hell if they ever have any other interests.

Christmas meant to take over Yule and Halloween is a Christian holiday a lot of them ignore. Go figure.

[crazyforkate]

Honestly, if I didn't think this was a troll I'd be most offended that she apparently moved it to America (since they mention the First Amendment). Dammit, let's keep HP British!

[homeschoolmomma1]

Holy Moly! They talked about this book on the View this morning! I think if you go on the ABC website you can watch it.

Woopie felt it was plagiarism and wrong.

Rosie Perez thinks it is disrespectful

They felt the author has the right to find books that represent her beliefs

[Ivycoveredtower]

Holy Moly! They talked about this book on the View this morning! I think if you go on the ABC website you can watch it.

Woopie felt it was plagiarism and wrong.

Rosie Perez thinks it is disrespectful

They felt the author has the right to find books that represent her beliefs

Well I mean It's fan fiction and JK Rowling has said she doesn't mind fan fiction but I don't know I think this woman has gotten so much attention about her story that it probably makes her think she's doing good which is scary.

[Firiel]

Woopie felt it was plagiarism and wrong.

I will heartily disagree with that assertion. Fan fiction is something that authors can choose not to support if they so desire (I know fanfiction.net does not include a section for at least one popular author because of author's request). But most don't mind at all. Plenty of fan fiction takes place in alternate universes, meaning it is essentially the story with several important details changed. This version is distant enough from the original plot that I hardly even think it can be called HP fan fiction, let alone plagiarism of HP.

EDIT: And it's no more disrespectful of Rowling than "My Immortal": myimmortalrehost.webs.com/chapters122.htm

[homeschoolmomma1]

I will admit... I sort of want to read this

[browncoatslytherin]

I will heartily disagree with that assertion. Fan fiction is something that authors can choose not to support if they so desire (I know fanfiction.net does not include a section for at least one popular author because of author's request). But most don't mind at all. Plenty of fan fiction takes place in alternate universes, meaning it is essentially the story with several important details changed. This version is distant enough from the original plot that I hardly even think it can be called HP fan fiction, let alone plagiarism of HP.

EDIT: And it's no more disrespectful of Rowling than "My Immortal": myimmortalrehost.webs.com/chapters122.htm

ugh, i honestly don't know which is worse out of the two.

[Katie Scarlett]

I will admit... I sort of want to read this

Go for it. I read the whole thing and found it hilarious. I check daily for chapter 10.

[Curious]

I will heartily disagree with that assertion. Fan fiction is something that authors can choose not to support if they so desire (I know fanfiction.net does not include a section for at least one popular author because of author's request). But most don't mind at all. Plenty of fan fiction takes place in alternate universes, meaning it is essentially the story with several important details changed. This version is distant enough from the original plot that I hardly even think it can be called HP fan fiction, let alone plagiarism of HP.

EDIT: And it's no more disrespectful of Rowling than "My Immortal": myimmortalrehost.webs.com/chapters122.htm

Which author is it that doesn't like fan fic? I'm always sad when authors, movie stars etc forget the reason they are where they are is because of their fans. I hope it's not one of the authors I like ;)

[Maggie Mae]

Which author is it that doesn't like fan fic? I'm always sad when authors, movie stars etc forget the reason they are where they are is because of their fans. I hope it's not one of the authors I like ;)

Off the top of my head, Ann Rice and GRRM. Ann Rice is 100% anti ff, and GRRM isn't quite as outspoken about it. I actually agree with his stance, though I didn't always. It's lazy. It's cool for writing exercises or whatever, but it is lazy writing to write in established universes. Think of your own characters already!

Also so much of it is absolutely terrible and has nothing to do with the original work yuck!

[Curious]

Off the top of my head, Ann Rice and GRRM. Ann Rice is 100% anti ff, and GRRM isn't quite as outspoken about it. I actually agree with his stance, though I didn't always. It's lazy. It's cool for writing exercises or whatever, but it is lazy writing to write in established universes. Think of your own characters already!

Also so much of it is absolutely terrible and has nothing to do with the original work yuck!

I'm not into ff myself, but I don't have problems with it as long as people aren't taking established characters and trying to use them commercially. That's obviously a copyright problem. To the bold, I think for many people, that is pretty much the point of the ff. You are putting the characters you love into different worlds/situations than the author originally did ;)

It just bothers me when people forget what got them to where they are. Yes, they have talent, but without their fans, that talent would mean fuck all. So have a little respect/compassion for the fans that are not doing things that harm you in any way. If a fan is being a real dick that's one thing.

Fortunately, I'm not a fan of Anne Rice and while I like GoT the series I've never read the books, so I don't feel any real attachment to GRRM either.

[Ivycoveredtower]

Off the top of my head, Ann Rice and GRRM. Ann Rice is 100% anti ff, and GRRM isn't quite as outspoken about it. I actually agree with his stance, though I didn't always. It's lazy. It's cool for writing exercises or whatever, but it is lazy writing to write in established universes. Think of your own characters already!

Also so much of it is absolutely terrible and has nothing to do with the original work yuck!

this is the list of authors that don't want to be used in FF. this comes from the guidelines on Fanfiction.net.

Anne Rice

Archie comics

Dennis L. McKiernan

Irene Radford

J.R. Ward

Laurell K. Hamilton

Nora Roberts/J.D. Robb

P.N. Elrod

Raymond Feist

Robin Hobb

Robin McKinley

Terry Goodkind

And as for it being Lazy. I don't agree with that but even if some people feel that way who cares people do it for fun, Many people do it as a stress reliever. yes some it can be horrible case in point the story we are discussing but some can be even better then the original story. it's a way to be apart of a community and to keep characters alive long after the show/book is done.

[DGayle]

I'm not into ff myself, but I don't have problems with it as long as people aren't taking established characters and trying to use them commercially. That's obviously a copyright problem.

The fastest selling books in world history started as fan fiction. Fifty Shades of Grey was Twilight FF, and even used the names Edward and Bella. I am so sick that this shit is what sells so well.

[julie paradox]

Terry Pratchett doesn't like fanfic but ignores it if it's kept away from him.

Originally there was a potential issue about a fanficcer claiming something Pterry later used was their idea (there was one instance on the newsgroup of someone speculating about Magrat's (iirc) story arc and Pterry saying "hm, I'm so glad the next book is quite definitely in printing stage!")

There are legal issues, and they can't all be resolved by saying "oh, these character's are all JKR's" at the beginning of every story.