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Dillards 84: Craving Attention

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samurai_sarah

Carry on from here:

 

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xlurker

Hoosier cabinets are very cool and those who have them are darn lucky!

I couldn't quote from the last thread, but I am one of those lucky people!  One was given to me in pieces. Took over a year to strip paint and rebuild the top but she now sits in my kitchen. I have everything except the flour sifter. A dear and wonderful friend had entrusted me with it, and I hope she is pleased with the results.

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QuiverFullofBooks

According to WOACB, Derick said specifically that he believes in educating his children, whether they’re boys or girls. It’s hypothetical for now, of course, but it sounds like they’re planning more children.

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WOACB grates on my last nerve, BUT has anyone seen her subsequent 2 videos re her alleged Derick Dillard interview?  Takes her a long time to say what could be said in a third the time, but unless Derick is just trolling her or is not being truthful, there are some interesting tidbits in her latest ones.

 

Second one:

 

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AussieKrissy
5 hours ago, watchdog said:

WOACB grates on my last nerve, BUT has anyone seen her subsequent 2 videos re her alleged Derick Dillard interview?  Takes her a long time to say what could be said in a third the time, but unless Derick is just trolling her or is not being truthful, there are some interesting tidbits in her latest ones.

 

Second one:

 

Take one for the team and summarise pretty please with a no contact social isolated cherry on top? 

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CaricatureQualities

WOACB will get more views and ads if she does a bunch of short under 20 min vids vs doing one long one. But she could still dump all of Derick's info in one short video anyway. She is milking it. 

Fuck.

"Leaving CO wasn't about money"

She takes half the video to rehash every single thing. Oh my god this is painful. Just tell us what Derick said! Over halfway through a DM from Derick is revealed. "Right now we are avoiding toxic relationships" in regards to family. Why are they not allowed at TTH? " We have never been given an answer."

Their departure from show was less about money and more about "regaining control of their lives". They were "sucked into a pattern of planning their hopes and dreams only to find out that what they wanted didn't matter."

Example: "we put years of our lives and $1000s of our own money toward a career goal including airline tickets for interviews only to learn there were conditions out of their control but under JB's control that prevented us from taking such a step. We learned too late that JB had a hidden contract that ended up being the only thing that prevented us from this job position. People wonder why we keep making sudden changes in our lives, this is part of it."

Then she rambles on with her own opinions/speculations for the rest of it. There is less than 5 mins of actual new "info" here. A few quootes from D.

 

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Idlewild

Is Derick referring to the missionary thing I wonder? Is this his cryptic way of saying they were proper missionaries with church backing but had to go along with living in a nice house in a resort and preaching in English so TLC could be involved?  So why the begging online?? 

I hope his book is clearer! 

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CaricatureQualities

"DD's comments about a Secret Contract with JIM Bob Duggar explained":

she talks about reality show contracts. Brings up Todd Chrisly. The person who owns the contract with production company gets the paycheck. She blathers on and I don't know what that the fuck.

So Counting On should have had new contract but didn't. Derick says it is the same contract so the show name is all that changed. JB in control.

Stuff about work permits for filming....she brings up the Gosselins and talks about John and Kate for while. 

Reality shows have crappy contracts.  Teen mom and MTV not intervening. Kids have no protection. Gosselins again. Amy wasn't paid. Production company owns her life. Only got out of her contract if she says nothing about Duggars.

She talks about some story about someone from Teen mom at length.

She talks about how reality show story lines are manipulated and not true. (breaking news!)

Okay I can't make any sense out of this. She blathers on about crappy contracts and how people get stuck in NDAs and don't have the money to go to court with a Network even though the NDA's probably wouldn't hold up in court.

Um, that's it. That was confusing. I feel like I understand less about reality show contracts than before and nothing was actually explained about JB's "secret contract".

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Snarkasarus Rex
53 minutes ago, CaricatureQualities said:

Their departure from show was less about money and more about "regaining control of their lives". They were "sucked into a pattern of planning their hopes and dreams only to find out that what they wanted didn't matter."

Example: "we put years of our lives and $1000s of our own money toward a career goal including airline tickets for interviews only to learn there were conditions out of their control but under JB's control that prevented us from taking such a step. We learned too late that JB had a hidden contract that ended up being the only thing that prevented us from this job position. People wonder why we keep making sudden changes in our lives, this is part of it."

Nothing new here, the ‘secret contract’ is the one Boob has with Figure 8/TLC.  Which probably does obligate the family to film at certain times.  However, if what Derick says is correct about being ‘volunteers’, then the contract is not binding on any of the adult children if they did not also sign. 

Now Boob can certainly use the contract to manipulate the kidults, which I am sure he does, but I don’t see how it would convince Derick’s prospective employer to decline to hire Derick.  Unless Derick tried to get a job with one of Boob’s cronies, which wasn’t very smart.

Your story has too many holes for us to believe you, Dillwank.  

Also, I am pretty sure he’s going to self-publish his tell-a-few-tidbits like Cathy did.  I doubt he would be on WOACB giving away details if he had an actual book deal.

 

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Idlewild
13 minutes ago, Snarkasarus Rex said:

Nothing new here, the ‘secret contract’ is the one Boob has with Figure 8/TLC.  Which probably does obligate the family to film at certain times.  However, if what Derick says is correct about being ‘volunteers’, then the contract is not binding on any of the adult children if they did not also sign. 

Now Boob can certainly use the contract to manipulate the kidults, which I am sure he does, but I don’t see how it would convince Derick’s prospective employer to decline to hire Derick.  Unless Derick tried to get a job with one of Boob’s cronies, which wasn’t very smart.

Your story has too many holes for us to believe you, Dillwank.  

Also, I am pretty sure he’s going to self-publish his tell-a-few-tidbits like Cathy did.  I doubt he would be on WOACB giving away details if he had an actual book deal.

 

Isn’t JB listed as ‘executive producer’? 

I agree that JB holding all the money is a huge hold over the ones who depend on him and the show to finance their lifestyle- Jinger and Jeremy really seem to like being famous but for the others it seems to be more of a case they’re used to a certain standard of living and not having to work that hard for it. 

But you’re right- if DD was a volunteer and he and Jill had a paying job all lined up, why didn’t they just take it? 

I think he is maybe hoping some of this will attract the attention of a publisher. He’d be better off offering his story to one of the gossip magazines. 

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CaricatureQualities

There is another WOACB vid where she claims that other Duggars want to leave and earn a living away from the family.

She references the No Longer Quivering blog on patheos  https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/ and talks about the Quiverfull movement in general and how it is hard to leave these sorts of things after being brought up in them.  (she also names Recovering grace website at the end). 

She then claims that Jill has left and others want to such as the girls with their social media influencing wanting independence esp. financially. Names Joy getting her own account (instagram). Jessa and Jana and Jinger doing yt vids and influencing. 

But they can't do that if we (the public) are" telling people not to partner with them or break endorsment deals with  them because of their beliefs." Their beliefs are problematic but have been drilled into their heads and she believes some of them like Jill and Derick are "softening" and starting to change. Jessa wears pants! She thinks Jinger (but not Jeremy) might be softening towards the LGBTQ.

But (she thinks) if everyone in the outside world is doing what JB and Michelle said they would and scream bigot at them etccc... we are taking away their ability to make money whilst trying to recover from this abuse. 

 She claims that we are going to be shocked and surprised by which ones will leave. 

But we (the public) have to allow them to work. And the way everything is structured it is impossible for them to get jobs apparently.

But we have to show them kindness instead of yelling at them and offer support. Some of them might change in time. There are people who change and if you wanna blame someone blame Jim Bob. Leaving a cult is not easy.

That's the gist.

So, apparently we all have to support them on their social media or we're not allowing them to break free or earn a living.  Why can't they get a job at a grocery store or waiting tables or a regular job that doesn't rely on public perception. How about just not being in the public at all instead of trying to sell a brand? 

 

 

My brain is mush now.  I am done. 

 

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Snarkasarus Rex

This woman is talking out of her ass.  She’s just speculating like the rest of us.

And she’s been flat out wrong about some things. Her assertion that ‘it’s common knowledge Jill had a hysterectomy’ is bunk because Jill has outright denied that. 

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CaricatureQualities
37 minutes ago, Snarkasarus Rex said:

Your story has too many holes for us to believe you, Dillwank.

yep. That's why he went to WOACB. She cannot pass up the opportunity to use this and she will not find the holes. 

17 minutes ago, Idlewild said:

he is maybe hoping some of this will attract the attention of a publisher. He’d be better off offering his story to one of the gossip magazines. 

This is attention for both of them. In touch has already regurgitated some of this and they are both getting mentioned.  I didn't understand why he wouldn't go directly to a gossip mag either but maybe it is because there is a chance some sort of actual journalist will spot the holes right away or expect an actual interview instead of bits and pieces in DMs. Easier to get the ball rolling with someone who has a smaller but decent audience and will readily trumpet for you just for responding to them.

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Idlewild

You know one way for Jinger et al not to have people object to the horrible Duggar  beliefs is to come out and state what their beliefs are. If they don’t want to do that then revert to being private citizens and earn a living doing something that doesn’t require fame and influence. Despite their high opinions of themselves their fame is down to the Duggar brand. 

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4 hours ago, Idlewild said:

Isn’t JB listed as ‘executive producer’? 

I agree that JB holding all the money is a huge hold over the ones who depend on him and the show to finance their lifestyle- Jinger and Jeremy really seem to like being famous but for the others it seems to be more of a case they’re used to a certain standard of living and not having to work that hard for it. 

But you’re right- if DD was a volunteer and he and Jill had a paying job all lined up, why didn’t they just take it? 

I think he is maybe hoping some of this will attract the attention of a publisher. He’d be better off offering his story to one of the gossip magazines. 

That would be every single Duggar, including the Dillard-Duggars, up until recently. 

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Bazinga

And how exactly does she know Jinger is softening to the LQBTQ community? 

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CaricatureQualities

@Bazinga She doesn't know that about Jinger. She thinks it. Remember last year Jinger liked an instagram post made by Jeremy's brother Charles about a project he was doing which was a film about trans character called Lupe. She allegedly said "wow so amazing bro" on a private post.  Leading some to think maybe she is softening.  shrug. 

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Pecansforeveryone

If Jeremy and Jinger were softening towards the LGBT community and made it public, there would be real, immediate repercussions. Not even exclusively with JB. I assume Jeremy would immediately be asked to leave the Master Seminary. 

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DarkAnts

WACB is on the same level as Pickles at this point. She gets so much wrong that I ignore her. 

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seraaa
On 4/1/2020 at 12:22 AM, Pecansforeveryone said:

If Jeremy and Jinger were softening towards the LGBT community and made it public, there would be real, immediate repercussions. Not even exclusively with JB. I assume Jeremy would immediately be asked to leave the Master Seminary. 

I think this is right. The theology is against, even if you'd expect them to be civil/polite to people they actually happened to interact with (and I would expect this, it's just polite)

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On 4/3/2020 at 10:22 PM, DarkAnts said:

WACB is on the same level as Pickles at this point. She gets so much wrong that I ignore her. 

She has started doing what Pickles does and instigating fights with people to play victim and report on it and it backfired big time. She commented on a post Kail from TM 2 made about her being antivax that had nothing to do with vaccines, to try and start people piling on her that didn't happen because even people who hate Kail or don't agree with her stance thought she was attention seeking and Kail said that she had no credibility, which is no lie WACB then made two videos saying Kail and her followers were bullying her. It reminded me of Pickles trying to go for Jazz after she decided not to talk to her about meeting up with Derick, a while after his commitments about her. 

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allthegoodnamesrgone
On 3/31/2020 at 12:47 PM, Idlewild said:

Isn’t JB listed as ‘executive producer’? 

I agree that JB holding all the money is a huge hold over the ones who depend on him and the show to finance their lifestyle- Jinger and Jeremy really seem to like being famous but for the others it seems to be more of a case they’re used to a certain standard of living and not having to work that hard for it. 

But you’re right- if DD was a volunteer and he and Jill had a paying job all lined up, why didn’t they just take it? 

I think he is maybe hoping some of this will attract the attention of a publisher. He’d be better off offering his story to one of the gossip magazines. 

To the bolded, Leaving and taking a paying job and no longer being beholden to JB has proven to mean being cut off (to a degree) from the family. Maybe Jill realized that by leaving she'd be treated like Cousin Amy & wasn't ready for that yet. At least this is what I think, IF this is true, maybe Jill wasn't ready to rip off the band-aide to be push away from her siblings. 

I still think some of the kiddults are waiting for the youngest siblings to reach 18 before anything really happens. I don't think any of them really want to be cut off from their siblings. 

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QuiverFullofBooks

DFO posted a photo of Michelle, Josie, and Jordyn (?) saying happy birthday to Israel through a window, and saying that they’re looking forward to seeing him after social distancing ends. Israel looks more like Derick than he used to.

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princessmahina

I noticed Jim Bob wasn’t there. I was surprised that all the members of jills buddy team didn’t come. 

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marmalade

Window was open and the three of them were right next to it. So much for social distancing. Nice idea that failed in execution.

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