Lori Alexander: 63: Teacher of Foolishness

[Frog99]

4 hours ago, wallysmommy said:

Well, some of my fondest memories were as a 6 or 7 year old watching soap operas with my grandmother.  I knew every character on Days of Our Lives.  My grandmother died in 1984, and I still miss her.  Your memories are what YOU make them, Lori.  

I’m dating myself here, but I remember watching 227 and Amen with my grandmother. She passed about 14 years ago and I can still hear her laugh in my head. We also watched Golden Girls (the series as it progressed- not reruns lol), and sometimes I would watch Dallas with my grandfather (that was pretty much the only show he watched, aside from the news, baseball, and 60 minutes. I remember sitting on their front porch in the summer- rocking in the glider and talking while my grandfather listened to baseball games on the radio.

My dad’s mom wasn’t much of a tv watcher- they only had three channels- but I remember watching Lawrence Welk and Hee Haw with them a few times. That grandmother was always fussing around the housing, cleaning things that were already clean. That grandfather wasn’t much of a tv watcher either- he rode his bike all around and we would often go for long bike rides. 

Two sets of grandparents, some tv watching, some other activities, and lots of wonderful memories. 

14 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

Excuse me Bryan quit speaking for all men. My man has no problem helping out around the house. My place is not in the kitchen. It is working, helping to take care of the house, spending time with our dogs, and contributing to the house. We both put in a lot of work into our lives. My boy friend is very happy with me. He doesn’t want a women who can’t make up her mind.  

My parents who were conservative Christians both did house work. My dad worked a full time job and a part time job. My mom worked part time. My dad helped with the dishes, cleaning, and laundry. My dad did most of the laundry. My mom also had my siblings and me do chores. Everyone helped out. 

My DH doesn’t want a wife that looks to him to make all decisions. He doesn’t mind helping around the house (he does his own laundry always). He does what needs to be done around the house. We don’t get into a pissing contest about who does what or who expects what. Generally speaking, I prob tend to do more but that’s because he works a 24/72 shift- so I try to get a lot done while he’s on a 24 hour shift so that when he’s off we aren’t stuck with chores and errands. I also have great difficulty sleeping at times- I’ve cleaned and rearranged furniture by myself in the middle of the night 

My conservative Christian parents (both worked full time out of the home) worked together as well- handling what needed to be handled- like adults  

I just don’t understand all these rules and roles and submission requirements. It sounds so dang complicated. 

Oh- and my walk with God is my walk. I don’t need to crawl behind my husband and children. That is straight nonsense. 

[Sarah92]

On the subject of human trafficking, different organizations estimate millions of people being trafficked world wide with many of those people probably being trafficked for sex. The super bowl often sees a sharp increase of prostitution and sex trafficking. It's not some myth. Often an unpopular opinion, Porn and selling sex isn't feminist, quite the opposite. So many wives and children are harmed by men going out and buying sex. So unless all these guys are single many women are being hurt. If it doesn't support all women, can it really be feminist? But that's my thoughts on it. 

Porn is still a pretty big issue in the conservative church. A guy googles boobs and a whole new world is opened to him. It's part of a lot of sob stories and blaming women for not giving enough sex. I also believe it's fueled by fundamentals teaching boys that they can only feel intimate during sex rather than take an initiative to have an emotionally fulfilling relationship. When they get lonely they seek false intimacy through porn. Their guilt further fuels their addiction. Of course, I'm not an expert of the male perspective. 

[livinglongerthanyou]

Ken made a hilarious comment today about how his kids, when they were teens, probably would have preferred a spanking instead of a 45 minute lecture. He has no idea that he is likely 100% correct. Who the fuck would want to listen to the million word man for 45 minutes? Who the hell lectures their teens for 45 minutes anyway?

My parents corrected me quickly when I was an obnoxious teen by simply calling me out on my shitty behavior and how it hurt them, my sibling or a friend. They didn't drone on and on. My parents also rarely lectured me - they talked with me. Their disappointment in me was enough to set me back on a good path.

[Liza]

On 3/19/2019 at 1:07 AM, Petronella said:

On 3/18/2019 at 7:44 PM, Free Jana Duggar said:

Human trafficking is a real problem.  All I can think of is that's someone's daughter being used by a man for pay, not love.

 

Why does it matter that a woman is someone’s daughter? Being trafficked is terrible because she’s a worthy human being in her own right, not because of her relationship with someone else.

All females are someone's daughter.  @Free Jana Duggar  has used this commonly worded sentiment ... "she is someone's daughter" ... to make the case.  And, yes she is a worthy human being in  her own right.  Most sane people get this ... but Lori?  not so much.

[Koala]

Someone must have hacked Lori's account and started answering comments for her.  I mean, surely the Godly Mentor wouldn't tell such obviously different stories, right?!

Lies, lies lies.  

[smittykins]

7 hours ago, livinglongerthanyou said:

Ken made a hilarious comment today about how his kids, when they were teens, probably would have preferred a spanking instead of a 45 minute lecture. He has no idea that he is likely 100% correct. Who the fuck would want to listen to the million word man for 45 minutes? Who the hell lectures their teens for 45 minutes anyway?

Speaking for myself, there were times I would have preferred a spanking over not only a lecture, but being grounded.  A spanking is over in a few minutes.  Two weeks stuck at home with no TV, radio, reading or writing(except homework)* was an eternity.

*My then-stepfather liked taking that away because that’s what I liked to do.

[Koala]

Free to travel, she says?  Like to Door County?  For 3 solid months?  While her mom lay dying?  While her daughters gave birth?  Each and every single summer?

Tell us, Lori?  Is that of what you speak?

As a side note, Dear Older Godly Mentor, I'll tell you something else you won't find in that verse- blogging.  Endless hours ("a majority of the day") on Facebook.  You sure never let it stand in your way, though.

Yes, and where were you when she needed you, Lori?  Vacationing.  Pampering yourself.  

Your children probably thought of her as a second mother, because they didn't have a quality real mother.

[SilverBeach]

21 hours ago, kmachete14 said:

11 year old me, who literally typed in "women's breasts" to google.

Don't they use site blocker apps to prevent this?

[SilverBeach]

In my opinion, sex work, along with drugs, should be legalized, taxed, and regulated. This would not eliminate all abuse (there is still a market for illegal weed in Colorado because its cheaper). However, it would help reduce if not eliminate some of the most egregious incidents of exploitation. Sex work will never go away, it's not called the worlds' oldest profession for nothing.

Those engaging in human trafficking for any reason should be subject to severe punishment under the law.

[AuntKrazy]

When I was still fundie-lite, I accidentally happened across "porn" once, when I accidentally typoed into google "Halloween peens" instead of "pens".  Boy Howdy!  I didn't even know that was a thing, but I was literally on the floor laughing uncontrollably.  

My independent, quirky, and even irreverent sense of humor is something my husband adores.  When we got engaged we had a discussion about last names.  (I took his because I wanted to)  He did not presume I would change my name, but it was funny because I said that the hyphenated of our two names was way too long, and we should change it to a contraction - and said we could be the "_______"s.  (which is funny in and of itself) - Now my husband's pet nickname for me is _________.  ?

I honestly don't think I would have gotten married if I had stayed in fundie circles.  I didn't know marriage could be this good until I left.  

[Hisey]

3 hours ago, Koala said:

Someone must have hacked Lori's account and started answering comments for her.  I mean, surely the Godly Mentor wouldn't tell such obviously different stories, right?!

Lies, lies lies.  

I think she argued (and may have been estranged from) Alyssa. As the oldest, Alyssa got the brunt of Lori's craziness. I think she enjoyed the boys' adolescence because they were athletic and she felt that this brought lots of credit to her. There was also less of a need to restrict and control them, because they were boys. Cassi seems like she was obedient and submissive -- just what Lori likes! 

I also think that the younger kids found ways to sneak around Lori. "I'm going out with a girl Saturday. Yes, of course she's a Christian, mom!" "What was I doing in my room? Umm . . re-reading that section of Luke that we learned about in church." Lori herself tells a story of forbidding Ryan to see a movie, then learning he snuck out to see it.

[wallysmommy]

Every Lori blog, doodle or post can be summarized into one sentence:  Do it MY way or you are a sinner.  

On her Grandmothers should take care of kids post today -- first, my paternal grandmother was 70 when I was born.  She had 66 grandchildren by her 11 children.  She knew everyone's birthday and wrote us letters about every two weeks because long distance telephone was so expensive in the 1960s.  My other grandmother took care of us while my mom worked, but she passed at 65 years old from health issues.  My mom took care of my niece and nephew during their summer visitation with their father while he worked.  But my parents had their alone time because I don't have children, and my brother didn't have his first until he was 27.  They traveled and enjoyed their lives and my dad's retirement years.  How can Lori spend time with her grandchildren when she is on the computer day and night chastising people for not joining her in her miserable existence.

[Alisamer]

6 minutes ago, wallysmommy said:

Every Lori blog, doodle or post can be summarized into one sentence:  Do it MY way or you are a sinner.  

 How can Lori spend time with her grandchildren when she is on the computer day and night chastising people for not joining her in her miserable existence.

It sounds like when Lori DOES have the grandchildren she sends them out to play while she sits on the porch and spies on the neighbors, so she can complain that all THEIR kids stayed inside being worldly or something.

Lori probably doesn't know half of what her kids got up to for real, and would lie about it even if she did.

[ViolaSebastian]

1 hour ago, AuntKrazy said:

When I was still fundie-lite, I accidentally happened across "porn" once, when I accidentally typoed into google "Halloween peens" instead of "pens".  Boy Howdy!  I didn't even know that was a thing, but I was literally on the floor laughing uncontrollably.  

Back in the day, my mother had a very conservative Christian co-worker who typed in "dicks.com" when she was looking for the Dick's Sporting Goods website. HELLO. It looks like Dick's Sporting Goods now owns "dicks.com" and it redirects automatically to their site, but back in the early 2000s, that did not happen.

[Imrlgoddess]

10 minutes ago, ViolaSebastian said:

Back in the day, my mother had a very conservative Christian co-worker who typed in "dicks.com" when she was looking for the Dick's Sporting Goods website. HELLO. It looks like Dick's Sporting Goods now owns "dicks.com" and it redirects automatically to their site, but back in the early 2000s, that did not happen.

The website for our school district was like that!  When I first moved here if you typed in just the school system abbreviation it went straight to an adult site.  You had to type the abbreviation and "online" dot com to get to the correct place.  I checked a year or so ago and it looks like that has since been rectified 

[SilverBeach]

I typed in whitehouse once, apparently without the gov extension. Porn. This was many years ago, I wouldn't dream of going to the whitehouse site now. Nothing to see there.

[Lgirlrocks]

For once Kyle doesn’t agree with Lori. I thought he was single but I guess I was wrong. 

Spoiler

The Bible doesn’t say that moms have to help raise their grandkids. Should they help if they can? Sure. If mothers are to be keepers of the home and raise their kids why do they need grandmas to raise their kids? 

[Alisamer]

12 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

The Bible doesn’t say that moms have to help raise their grandkids. Should they help if they can? Sure. If mothers are to be keepers of the home and raise their kids why do they need grandmas to raise their kids? 

Why did Lori need a nanny AND a housekeeper to raise HER kids?

Lori is bored and miserable and wants to make sure no one is having a better life than she is. She's also found some meager joy in her own version of internet trolling, so doing everything she can to make other people's lives worse than her own is her purpose in life. I just wish she didn't blame God for it. It's Lori, all Lori.

[Koala]

Weren't Lori and Ken thinking of moving to a state where NONE of their children live?  And weren't they doing so to save money for themselves?  Is that the "self sacrificial" love Lori's talking about?

 

Also, how is the above mentioned set of grandparents (who traveled the world) any different than Lori and Ken spending MONTHS in Door County each year?  Because when Alyssa made her pregnancy announcement, she seemed to know going in that Lori "wouldn't like it" because she would be vacationing when the baby arrived.

Not once did Lori pipe up and say, "Are you nuts?!?  I wouldn't miss this for anything in the world!"

Why?  Because she's totally not letting anyone interrupt her summer.  Please, Lori- you've never sacrificed anything in your life.  You're still a taker.

[delphinium65]

29 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

The Bible doesn’t say that moms have to help raise their grandkids. 

I never found that in the Bible, and I read it all the way through more than once.  But maybe Lori is using another version, or something.  

And her claim that a Christian life is so self-sacrificing to others?  That only applies if you're a woman, and if you're not Lori.  Practice what you preach, Oh Great Godly Mentor, and then we can talk about it.  

[Hisey]

15 hours ago, livinglongerthanyou said:

Ken made a hilarious comment today about how his kids, when they were teens, probably would have preferred a spanking instead of a 45 minute lecture.

Oh, Ken. You little innocent. Do you really think your kids were listening to you at minute 45? I'm sure they'd tuned out long before.

[Hisey]

Two of Lori's kids live out of state. Though they have small children, she's not helping the parents much. They ditched her long ago.

Lori seems to have few friends. She has no known hobbies. She does not work. Her husband doesn't seem to enjoy her company.

What she DOES have is a son and DIL who really need her to babysit.  That couple has four small children, and the wife is trying to run a business while the husband attends law school. They don't seem to object to Lori's views. They travel without their kids quite frequently and seem to need a lot of "couple time." (nothing wrong with that) So Lori comes in very handy.

So those little kids fill the empty spot in Lori's life. Most women of her age have work, friends, hobbies as well as grandkids. Lori has only grandkids.

These grandkids are very young--too little to make other plans with friends or to realize how toxic Lori is. In 7 years, I wonder how much time they'll want to spend with her. Can you imagine how it'll be when those kids are 14, 12, 10 and 8? She'll be complaining about the girls' immodest clothing, the boy's time on his ipad, their failure to read the Bible enough, the unhealthy food they are eating, the way they refuse to eat her green smoothies for breakfast. It's only a matter of time before they stop wanting to go to Grandma's house.

 

[cara]

Woah Lori has done a complete 180 here, she used to be verrrry against grandparents babysitting.  Nothing can replace a mother remember? 

[Briefly]

20 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

Excuse me Bryan quit speaking for all men. My man has no problem helping out around the house. My place is not in the kitchen. It is working, helping to take care of the house, spending time with our dogs, and contributing to the house. We both put in a lot of work into our lives. My boy friend is very happy with me. He doesn’t want a women who can’t make up her mind. He lacks empathy and if I don’t speak up about some things nothing would ever change. He wants me to tell him when something is bothering me. If he knows somethings is bothering me he will keep asking me until I talk about it. 

No relationship is ever 50/50 all of the time. I will be dusting for the rest of our lives together. He is allergic to dust and 70% of other things. He doesn’t like to do laundry because he is  afraid that he will mess up my stuff lol. I do most of the cooking because I love cooking. We both help with the cleaning. We both do trash. I do it more than him because of how our work schedules are. 

My parents who were conservative Christians both did house work. My dad worked a full time job and a part time job. My mom worked part time. My dad helped with the dishes, cleaning, and laundry. My dad did most of the laundry. My mom also had my siblings and me do chores. Everyone helped out. 

All relationships require work from both parties. This includes friendships which should be part of marriage. 

Jesus never said a women’s place was in the kitchen so I hope you don’t call yourself a Christian and feel that way. 

You pretty much said what I was going to say.  Mr. Briefly actually likes to put the laundry away, and he usually switches it from the washer to the dryer.  He generally runs the vacuum.  He works from home and while he doesn't always have a lot of down time, he will ask me if there is anything else I need him to do around the house and that generally means household chores including cleaning something.

And, although it would probably make Lori or her leghumpers skin crawl, our dryer may be on the way out and we have to get a new one.  Which is completely up to me, which one we get and how much we spend.  Stuff it, Lori.  I would have much ruder words for Brian B.  I hope her never finds the woman he thinks he deserves!

[Sarah92]

My dear, that's not feminism at work. That might have been someone struggling with mental illness or someone who had  child when they weren't fit for it. Don't blame feminism for something like that. I know several feminists who are amazing mothers. Sarah Bessey the writer of Jesus Feminist speaks very highly of her children and obviously loves them. Her books mention them often.