Trump 32: Pissing off the World, One Country at a Time

[Cartmann99]

Team Trump wants people to fill out a survey about the media. They hit you up for a donation afterwards. 

https://action.donaldjtrump.com/msm-media-accountability-survey/

 

[fraurosena]

This thread is an important must read for everyone outraged by ICE.

Abolish ICE now!

[fraurosena]

Can you call it MAGA when your country’s egregious conduct is reported for human rights violations to the United Nations?

 

[47of74]

1 hour ago, Cartmann99 said:

Team Trump wants people to fill out a survey about the media. They hit you up for a donation afterwards. 

https://action.donaldjtrump.com/msm-media-accountability-survey/

 

I went and filled out the fuck face survey.  I may have to take my computer to an adult site to get that orange stench that comes with visiting the fuck face campaign site off my computer.

And of course I did not use my real address either.  I don't want fuck face or his groupies spamming me

[Cartmann99]

16 minutes ago, 47of74 said:

And of course I did not use my real address either.  I don't want fuck face or his groupies spamming me.

Yup. One of my alternate identities filled this survey out. 

[AmazonGrace]

 

[AmazonGrace]

Good news, the president is profiting from the presidency. 

 

More good news, the China relations are sure to improve due to diligent corruption 

 

[fraurosena]

The parallels with Russian policy are chilling.

Taking Children from Their Parents Is a Form of State Terror

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When my kids were fifteen and twelve, we lived through a period during which the Russian government was threatening to take children away from queer parents, and, specifically, threatening to go after my kids. I sent my son, who is adopted, to boarding school in the United States while the rest of us got ready to emigrate. My biological daughter was less at risk, perhaps even at no risk, and yet the question of whether social services would come knocking sent me into a panic.

One day, about a month and a half before we left Moscow, as I was about to go on a short book trip, my daughter asked what would happen if social services came while I was away. “Will you go crazy?” she asked. I reassured her that a small army of lawyers, activists, and embassy officials stood at the ready and would protect her.

“I know I’ll survive,” she responded dismissively. “I mean, Will you go crazy?Will you lose your mind?”

A twelve-year-old was asking me if I had the mental capacity to survive having my child taken hostage. It was the right question.

Hostage-taking is an instrument of terror. Capturing family members, especially children, is a tried-and-true instrument of totalitarian terror. Memoirs of Stalinist terror are full of stories of strong men and women disintegrating when their loved ones are threatened: this is the moment when a person will confess to anything. The single most searing literary document of Stalinist terror is “Requiem,” a cycle of poems written by Anna Akhmatova while her son, Lev Gumilev, was in prison. But, in the official Soviet imagination, it was the Nazis who tortured adults by torturing children. In “Seventeen Moments of Spring,” a fantastically popular miniseries about a Soviet spy in Nazi Germany, a German officer carries a newborn out into the cold of winter in an effort to compel a confession out of his mother, who is forced to listen to her baby cry.

Last weekend, independent Russian-language media published hundreds of photographs from protests that preceded Monday’s inauguration of Vladimir Putin, who has claimed the office of President for the fourth time. In many of the pictures, Russian police were detaining children: primarily, preteen boys were having their arms twisted behind their backs by police, being dragged and shoved into paddy wagons. According to OVDInfo, a Web site that has been tracking arrests since anti-Putin protests began, six and a half years ago, a hundred and fifty-eight minors were detained by police during the protests, accounting for just less than ten per cent of the day’s arrests.

Ella Paneyakh, a Russian sociologist who studies law-enforcement practices, observed in a Facebook post that the police had clearly been directed to target children. A possible explanation, she suggested, is that social services, which will process the minors, is even less accountable than the regular courts are. While Russian activists have learned to make the work of the courts difficult, filing appeals and regularly going all the way to the European Court of Human Rights, there is no role for defense attorneys and no apparent appeals process in the social-services system. The threat is clear: children who have been detained at protests may be removed from their families. At least one parent has already been charged with negligence as a result of his son’s detention at one of the demonstrations last weekend.

Another possible explanation is that Putin and the system he has created have consistently, if not necessarily with conscious intent, restored key mechanisms of Soviet control. The spectacle of children being arrested sends a stronger message than any amount of police violence against adults could do. The threat that children might be removed from their families is likely to compel parents to keep their kids at home next time—and to stay home themselves.

A few hours after Putin took his fourth oath of office, in Moscow, Attorney General Jeff Sessions addressed a law-enforcement conference in Scottsdale, Arizona. He pledged to separate families that are detained crossing the Mexico-U.S. border. “If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you and that child will be separated from you,” Sessions said. The Attorney General did not appear to be unveiling a new policy so much as amplifying a practice that has been adopted by the Trump Administration, which has been separating parents who are in immigration detention from their children. The Times reported in December that the federal government was considering a policy of separating families in order to discourage asylum seekers from entering. By that time, nonprofit groups were already raising the alarm about the practice, which they said had affected a number of families. In March, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a class-action lawsuit on behalf of the hundreds of families that had been separated when they entered the country with the intention of seeking asylum.

The practice, and Sessions’s speech, are explicitly intended as messages to parents who may consider seeking asylum in the United States. The American government has unleashed terror on immigrants, and in doing so has naturally reached for the most effective tools.

America, for a while now I've been hearing things like: If we don't watch out, we'll become a totalitarian state.

Well, I'm afraid you didn't watch out enough, because with these kinds of policies already being effected for more than a year, one can only conclude that the totalitarian state you were afraid of is already here. If nothing is done about this atrocious and blatant violation of human rights, then you'll officially pass the point of no return. You must get up in arms about this. If you don't, and this is just a case of this weekend's news which people will forget when Monday's news cycle begins, then you are a lost cause for democracy, basic morality and human rights.

 

[JMarie]

3 hours ago, AmazonGrace said:

Good news, the president is profiting from the presidency. 

 

More good news, the China relations are sure to improve due to diligent corruption 

 

I knew that Trump company thing sounded familiar!  Us smart FJers already discussed this awesome venture.  

https://www.comicsands.com/trump-jr-valentines-day-gift-2532516733.html?utm_content=inf_1123_3759_2&utm_source=csands&tse_id=INF_d85ebbe00dbc11e8b29907daa8112220

[formergothardite]

22 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

You must get up in arms about this.

I don't know what else to do though. I can't at this point in my life drive to big places where the politicians are and protest. I call and write constantly, but my representatives give no shits. They don't even hold meeting where you can talk to them. They even gave up on the pretense of listening by having live FB Q & A's. I'm volunteering with the person running against my asshole house representative, but I literally don't know what else to do. 

Obviously the system of checks and balances doesn't work when all the checks and balances are corrupt, but how do we change this at this moment? I don't see a way that isn't waiting to vote in decent people who will do something. But as we wait, terrible things happen. 

[fraurosena]

40 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

I'm volunteering with the person running against my asshole house representative,

But this is fantastic, @formergothardite! You are doing what you can, and I'm incredibly proud to see that.  What more could anyone do?  

Please don't take my posts to be aimed at you personally. I'm ranting mostly because of my frustration at seeing what is happening from afar and feeling helpless about it all. I can get really frustrated with people who are great at moaning and groaning about the situation, but not actually doing something. You, my dear, are actually doing something!  Even if it seems that they're just little things, you need to remember that all those little things put together can make big changes happen.  

[formergothardite]

29 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

feeling helpless about it all.

I feel helpless to because I have a feeling that Patrick McHenry will win again no problem and he will continue being an asshole and trying to destroy the nation. I have so many form letter replies to all my complaints, no amount of complaining actually works. I wish I could ee my representatives face to face and ask them questions, but they won't come anywhere near their constituents. I think there needs to be laws passed that they have to meet with their constituents on a regular basis and ask questions. 

How did we get to the point where we are treating children like garbage and no one cares? How can we make people care? I go read comments on my county FB page and it is disheartening. Trump could be shown personally killing an immigrant child and I don't think they would care. There is something very wrong with many people in our country. Trump is the public representative of all the evil that has been brewing. 

[onekidanddone]

11 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

Yup. One of my alternate identities filled this survey out. 

How did you manage to avoid the payment at the end?

[AmazonGrace]

The president is playing the pity card 

Young and beautiful lives? He misses Hopey.

[formergothardite]

Aww, poor babies. How could they have known that committing treason would land them in trouble? 

[Howl]

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They journeyed down to Washington, D.C., with stars in their eyes and wanting to help our nation...They went back home in tatters!

.....only to discover that working in the West Wing would leave a black mark on their permanent record that would follow them for the rest of their lives!  

On a happier note, my favorite Republican strategist(!) Rick Wilson is flaying Trump with a verbal cat o' nine tails over at the Daily News: 

Trump’s land of delusion: Disregard the sycophants; the wheels are coming off, if they were ever on

Here's a little teaser: 

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Bluffers bluff, and President Trump just tried to bluff his way through one of the worst weeks of his administration.

It's not working. Donald Trump is a terrible poker player. His tells are so clumsily obvious and that we mistakenly give him credit for guile where none exists, and for some cinematic, supervillain cunning where there is only a howling, feral mass of insecurity and need.

 

[milkteeth]

15 hours ago, fraurosena said:

This thread is an important must read for everyone outraged by ICE.

Abolish ICE now!

 

Abolishing ICE needs to become the mainstream policy of the Democrats immediately. This isn't demanding purity politics or something we can compromise on. If you're an elected official who supports ICE then you are supporting human rights abuses full stop.

[AmazonGrace]

 

 

[47of74]

That Orange Fornicate is running his mouth again.

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MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace said a recent report about President Donald Trump’s racist comments at a meeting in the White House was “appalling,” a feeling echoed by her guest Bret Stephens, a columnist for the New York Times.

The report, published by the Washington Post, found that Trump had made the remarks at an Oval Office meeting discussing immigration. He mentioned how his comments about immigration fired up crowds at his campaign rallies. Trump then made up a list of Hispanic-sounding names and fictional crimes they supposedly committed. like rape and murder.

Stephens pointed out that the report, though appalling, can’t be much of a surprise coming from a man who began his campaign by calling Mexican immigrants rapists and murderers.

“It’s another reminder of why he is utterly unfit to be the president of the United States,” he said. “It goes to the heart of his demagogic appeal to a nativist base and a form of xenophobic politics.”

And I utterly despise that son of a bitch.

[47of74]

Chelsea is doing what she can to combat fuck face

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Chelsea Clinton skewered President Donald Trump’s character in a recent interview, accusing him of degrading “what it means to be an American.”

Clinton, a philanthropist and the daughter of former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, tore into Trump when asked about his planned July visit to Britain during an interview published Saturday in The Guardian.

“If I lived in Britain I would show up to protest, because I don’t agree with what he’s doing to degrade what it means to be an American,” Clinton said.

Clinton, 38, also told the newspaper that she’s been the target of “vitriol” for as long as she could remember and credited Trump for prompting her decision to start firing back at people who say “hateful” things to her.

 

[Cartmann99]

11 hours ago, onekidanddone said:

How did you manage to avoid the payment at the end?

They hit you up for money on the page that comes up after you have submitted the survey. I just closed the tab after I finished the survey.

[RainbowSky]

On 5/26/2018 at 1:34 AM, AmazonGrace said:

More dehumanisation, this time with Native Americans 

 

He never heard of fucking Columbus Day or??

[AmazonGrace]

 

[fraurosena]

This is horrific. 

For the life of me, I can't understand how somebody can do this. Keeping these places purposely cold and unsanitary is simply appalling. Nobody deserves this kind of treatment. 

[Howl]

I noticed an important series of tweets on Samuel Sinyangye's twitter feed (posted above by @RainbowSky) that have to do with the viral post going around about the 1500 missing children.  According to these tweets by Josie Duffy Rice, an Atlanta lawyer who also does immigration law, these children are not missing and are likely with their appropriate placement with family/relatives.  The tweets are posted to read from top to bottom.  Please click and read all the way through to clearly understand the situation. 

And yes, separating children from their parents is a form of terrorism.