Dillards 55: Selling the High Life

[nokidsmom]

20 hours ago, SassyPants said:

I'm not certain, but part of Derick's issue might be that he doesn't really want or know how to work hard. He is basically a near 30 YO man, with a needy wife and 2 dependent, tiny children who really does not have a solid work history. In today's job market and with a BS in accounting he should be able to secure a decent job. I just don't think he has the desire. He is entitled. The Duggar's mentality about work has affected (infected) him-

I have wondered the same thing about him.   As far as we have seen of him, he hasn't stuck with anything for any significant length of time: stints at Walmart and in CA were short.   He seems to bounce around, trying to figure out what to do.    With a BS in accounting and a first job at a major company as a good start, he should be doing pretty well, if he stayed on the accounting track.  Hell, it's tax time, he could make good money at this time of year on the side as a tax preparer.   

When he married Jill and I heard of his educational background and job,  I thought Jill found someone with good prospects as far as providing for her and any family they had.    Didn't think he would blow it like he has.  Maybe the Duggar mentality has got to him. 

[2manyKidzzz]

2 hours ago, curlykate said:

Hmmmm sounds intriguing. I’ll have to give it a try. However, I don’t like a lot of ketchup on my burger, but lots of mayo. I wonder if the ketchup to mayo ratio will be to my liking. 

  The picture I saw showed it as a welll blended mixture. Not sure I want that. I do like the separation of the flavors. Such a connoisseur. Ha

@Buzzard as to the Russian Dressing theory I don’t know. Somehow I think not. But don’t know. We’ll see. 

[feministxtian]

17 minutes ago, 2manyKidzzz said:

  The picture I saw showed it as a welll blended mixture. Not sure I want that. I do like the separation of the flavors. Such a connoisseur. Ha

@Buzzard as to the Russian Dressing theory I don’t know. Somehow I think not. But don’t know. We’ll see. 

add horseradish and a dash of lemon juice and you have cocktail sauce.

On topic:

Here in LV the casinos/hotels are always looking for accountants. The pay is pretty damn good and a CPA is not required. He could come here and then preach to the heathens on the strip on his down time. I LOVE watching the street preachers in action...it's funny as hell. Street preacher here, strippers there.

[nastyhobbitses]

24 minutes ago, feministxtian said:

add horseradish and a dash of lemon juice and you have cocktail sauce.

On topic:

Here in LV the casinos/hotels are always looking for accountants. The pay is pretty damn good and a CPA is not required. He could come here and then preach to the heathens on the strip on his down time. I LOVE watching the street preachers in action...it's funny as hell. Street preacher here, strippers there.

Maybe Eric Andre will fuck with him. The clip of him confronting street preachers in Union Square by posing as a Scientologist is what I watch to brighten my day if I've had a hard time at work. 

[SassyPants]

I just figured something out. The reason I am especially disgusted with Dilliard. I really thought with his family background, education, life experiences that he would be able to offer Jill a fuller, richer and more fulfilling life. Instead, he has sunk down to below Duggar level. It is very disappointing. I feel sorry for Jill.

Jeremy, OTOH, has seemed to enhance Jinger's life. I do not agree with his beliefs, but IMO, Jinger is living a more fulfilling life than she was as a Duggar. 

And for a youngster, Ben has grown and the Seewalds seem happy.

 

Derick is in real need of a positive, older, male role model. 

[nokidsmom]

1 hour ago, SassyPants said:

I just figured something out. The reason I am especially disgusted with Dilliard. I really thought with his family background, education, life experiences that he would be able to offer Jill a fuller, richer and more fulfilling life. Instead, he has sunk down to below Duggar level. It is very disappointing. I feel sorry for Jill.

Jeremy, OTOH, has seemed to enhance Jinger's life. I do not agree with his beliefs, but IMO, Jinger is living a more fulfilling life than she was as a Duggar. 

And for a youngster, Ben has grown and the Seewalds seem happy.

 

Derick is in real need of a positive, older, male role model. 

Yep, I though Derick would offer a better life for Jill as compared to life with her parents, but honestly it seems he has dragged both her and the family down.   Ben was young and I wasn't sure about him at first, but he seems to have grown up and is taking his responsibilities seriously.     

His beliefs aside, I thought Jeremy would be responsible not to mention more mature and marrying him has been a big life improvement for Jinger.  

[singsingsing]

Here's the thing about Ben... I feel the same way about him pursuing a career in ministry that I do about Derick: I think he's really unsuited to it, and it's a huge waste of time and money, and he should be doing something that will give him and his wife and kids more stability and financial security. That said, even though he's (probably, we don't know for sure) currently working for Jim Bob, at least he's actually working! I would 100x rather see Derick working for Jim Bob than begging strangers for donations so that he can go on vacations to preach at people in the street and Jill can hand out banana bread.

[SassyPants]

1 hour ago, singsingsing said:

Here's the thing about Ben... I feel the same way about him pursuing a career in ministry that I do about Derick: I think he's really unsuited to it, and it's a huge waste of time and money, and he should be doing something that will give him and his wife and kids more stability and financial security. That said, even though he's (probably, we don't know for sure) currently working for Jim Bob, at least he's actually working! I would 100x rather see Derick working for Jim Bob than begging strangers for donations so that he can go on vacations to preach at people in the street and Jill can hand out banana bread.

Agreed. Wasn't there some mention of Ben working on the real estate end of Duggar business? Sure, that could mean cleaning toilets of their vacant houses/businesses, but I think Ben would make a good realtor.

[Ivycoveredtower]

1 minute ago, SassyPants said:

Agreed. Wasn't there some mention of Ben working on the real estate end of Duggar business? Sure, that could mean cleaning toilets of their vacant houses/businesses, but I think Ben would make a good realtor.

the thing with ben VS Derick is that he's doing school but he doesn't shove his schooling in ministry down everyone's throat.  he has a very low social media profile and when he is seen it's usually with his boys. unlike Derick who if he didn't have ministry wouldn't post much. and usually when he does post it's huge shit shows about being prosecuted for this or that. with rare sightings of Sam or Izzy. 

Ben could be just as bad as Derick no question but he knows how to keep his crazy on the down low. Derick is just full out crazy and he doesn't seem to care who sees it. even if that means his wife losing her family and the show which is the only thing she's known for most of her life. 

[Million Children For Jesus]

Ben and Jeremy* are just as hateful and ugly as Derick, but they’re more cautious about when, where, and how they preach, which makes them more effective, and that’s scary. 

Ben went on his anti-Catholic rant, got backlash, took it down, and hasn’t done anything similar, that I know of, since. I’m sure he still hates Catholics, but he has enough sense and thought to avoid public outbursts that will cause undue stress and/or financial loss to his wife and family. This is actually good press for Ben because it makes him look thoughtful as to how he impacts others, even though he’s still a smug, hateful bigot.

Ben and Jeremy keep their ugly beliefs within their like minded community, and off of social media, AFAIK. I don’t follow them, so I’m basing this off what I have read on FJ. Derick is self-absorbed, self-righteous, lacks impulse control, and doesn’t have any regard for his wife or family, or the stress he causes them. He cannot effectively project himself as a family man, or a Christian, when he unnecessarily incites negative backlash. Not even within his own community of bigots because even like minded people will distance themselves from controversy. 

In order to be effective preachers, Ben and Jeremy need to be warm and credible. These are the two factors that come up in Public Relations 101. 

Ben and Derick project themselves as family men who are surrounded by an inner circle of like minded individuals who share a sense of community, and that makes them warm. Derick does not project himself as a family man, or having any community. He projects as a child with wanderlust who drags his family around, financially not provided for, probably emotionally not provided for, forcing his beliefs on others, while lashing out on Twitter. This is the opposite of warm. This is, in a textbook sense, bad PR.

Ben and Jeremy have stable homes and wives who seem content and happy. When they preach about a Godly lifestyle, they have some credibility. Derick doesn’t have any credibility, for the above mentioned reasons. 

I can’t stand any of them, and I couldn’t agree more that Ben is wasting his time and money on ministry. He will never be dynamic or articulate. I think Jeremy is boring as hell, and not a particularly dynamic preacher, but he has some superficial appeal. Derick is 0-for-2 on PR fundamentals. At this rate, he will never rise above passing out tracts in foreign countries. He does not have the very minimum of what it takes to attract or persuade a congregation. Unless he drastically changes his mindset and approach, I predict nothing but failure for Derick.

edit: * I initially typed Derick by mistake, instead of Jeremy 

[JoiseyGoil]

At least Ben is anti-Trump and not a Christian Trump fanboy, like Derick.

[nst]

I can confirm Mayonnaise is awful.

 

[Ivycoveredtower]

17 minutes ago, JoiseyGoil said:

At least Ben is anti-Trump and not a Christian Trump fanboy, like Derick.

Ben is Anti trump? please explain. I have never heard this information. 

[EmmieJ]

4 hours ago, SassyPants said:

I just figured something out. The reason I am especially disgusted with Dilliard. I really thought with his family background, education, life experiences that he would be able to offer Jill a fuller, richer and more fulfilling life. Instead, he has sunk down to below Duggar level. It is very disappointing. I feel sorry for Jill.

Jeremy, OTOH, has seemed to enhance Jinger's life. I do not agree with his beliefs, but IMO, Jinger is living a more fulfilling life than she was as a Duggar. 

And for a youngster, Ben has grown and the Seewalds seem happy.

 

Derick is in real need of a positive, older, male role model. 

He could even try to emulate Ben or Jeremy, as a younger role model.  I think he thought marrying Jill would land him on easy street.  He seems to lack ambition, and the discipline all successful adults have.  Many people lose a parent at a young age and that loss sticks with them, but does not make them a perpetual man/child.  Jill got the dud.  Sorry Jill.

[VelociRapture]

46 minutes ago, Ivycoveredtower said:

Ben is Anti trump? please explain. I have never heard this information. 

Here you go:

 

[Beermeet]

1 hour ago, nst said:

I can confirm Mayonnaise is awful.

 

Worst thread drift ever.

[Don'tlikekoolaid]

@feministxtian  The last time I was in LV my truck overheated and while waiting for it to cool down I met a very nice hooker.  She kept me company, I liked her way more than I would have liked Mr. Preacher man Derick.

[feministxtian]

34 minutes ago, Don'tlikekoolaid said:

@feministxtian  The last time I was in LV my truck overheated and while waiting for it to cool down I met a very nice hooker.  She kept me company, I liked her way more than I would have liked Mr. Preacher man Derick.

Most of the working girls are actually pretty nice. But, being a local, we stay as far away from the strip as possible. We only head that way when friends come into town. 

Oh, and if your vehicle starts overheating, turn the heat on full blast. It helps pull the heat away from your engine block (says the desert dweller who learned that trick a long time ago)

[Dandruff]

5 hours ago, SassyPants said:

Derick is in real need of a positive, older, male role model. 

Jim Bob wasn't good enough?

[SassyPants]

9 minutes ago, Dandruff said:

Jim Bob wasn't good enough?

JB is not a positive role model for anything beyond grifting.

[Ivycoveredtower]

10 minutes ago, Dandruff said:

Jim Bob wasn't good enough?

Jim Bob allowed his son to molest his daughters there is nothing positive about Jim Bob. 

[Beermeet]

42 minutes ago, feministxtian said:

Most of the working girls are actually pretty nice. But, being a local, we stay as far away from the strip as possible. We only head that way when friends come into town. 

Oh, and if your vehicle starts overheating, turn the heat on full blast. It helps pull the heat away from your engine block (says the desert dweller who learned that trick a long time ago)

Not sure where you live outside of the strip but last time hubby and I went to Vegas we ate at "Stacks and yolks" .  Super yummy.   Ever been?  

[scoutsadie]

10 hours ago, justoneoftwo said:

Add spices and pickles cut up and its fry sauce! 

Ok, so that, I think, is Russian Dressing. (Mayo, ketchup, pickles, at least.)

Mayochup = not an appealing name, sez me.

Speaking of names, I'm beyond ready for a new Dillard thread, because I can't get Steve Winwood out of my head for a few hours after I see the title of this one. 

[Dandruff]

46 minutes ago, Ivycoveredtower said:

Jim Bob allowed his son to molest his daughters there is nothing positive about Jim Bob. 

My comment was snark.

I'll give Jim Bob credit for a positive sperm count, though.

[Ivycoveredtower]

1 minute ago, Dandruff said:

My comment was snark.

I'll give Jim Bob credit for a positive sperm count, though.

sorry sometimes it's hard to tell on here.